Comments by "Voix de la raison" (@voixdelaraison593) on "Joel Osteen: scripture clear on gay marriage" video.

  1. Joel is a charlatan who is only in it for the money. When Huston had its Hurricane he would not open his church because he did not want it to get dirty.
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  2. Charisma 101 Joel is a false prophet in it for the money.
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  3. Charisma 101 Because an enlightened Creature would not despise what he created.
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  4. Yes I did know that about adultery and I am shocked that any Cristian could fall for Trump - the Antichrist wannabe. Homosexuality is not a sin - this is a man made construct just like eating pork, woman wearing pants, woman not having their head covered, or mixing dairy and other foods in the same bowl. We have a new covenant of love not of pharisees or sadducees. Bottom line, gays are born not made. If born into sin as gay then God made a mistake - God does not make mistakes - therefore God intended some % of the population to be gay. The Bible is wrong on this account as it is on many other accounts. The Bible is a Rorschach test. It tells you who you are as a Christian by what part of the Bible you focus on.
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  5. Do you believe that the Bible is God’s unerring word?
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  6. Charisma 101 Let us clear up a few issues before I respond. Yes, I have read the Bible and continue to do so. Yes, I attend church and a believer in God and our savior Jesus. Now to respond: At fist, my inclination was to point out to you the many passages, primarily in the Old Testament - some in the New , that absolutely are appalling. My intent was to show you that the feeble mind of man was at work here. My next inclination was to go into the history of the Bible. How the Bible became what we know it as today. Who wrote what and probably when. What surviving manuscripts, and fragments, allowed us to form gospels. How the Bible was translated from Greek to Latin to English, etc. We could talk about the various early Bishops who championed various gospels and those who lost. Finally, we could have a rousing debate over Constantin and the Council(s) of Nicaea. But in the end I believe God wants me to tell you a more personal story. I grew up in a very religious and conservative family. I, like you, was taught that Homosexuality was a major sin. As I progressed through life I stared to come in contact, and become friends with , these so called sinners. I listened to their stories of anguish trying to fight who they were born to be. I began to understand that God did not give them a choice to be Heterosexual. I began to understand that Homosexuality shows up in nature and is therefore a mistake of nature ( or a mistake of nature as we understand “normal”). I truly wrestled with this conundrum. Many gays I have know are good Christian people. They do not want to be forsaken by God but also can not deny the nature God gave them. Homosexuality is not just about sex, it is more about who you love. In the end I realized that sin is derived from freewill. We choose to harm others , or society, and therefore commit sin. Gay people are not given freewill on there sexual orientation any more than you were. On another note, being a student of history and all of its tragedies, I fear for the Conservative Evangelicals. I believe they are on a path that allows the Devil to do/be evil (through Conservative Evangelical Preachers) in the name of God. History is full of so called heretics being burned at the stake, of wars of religion, persecutions, and inquisitions. Our evil nature’s drive us to judgement and an abuse of our powers overs others. I fear that Conservative Evangelicals have fallen for an Antichrist like figure (Trump) are being led astray. I fear that all of these Televangelists are milking the masses of their monies by appealing to their baser instincts. I fear that Conservative Evangelicals are destroying our democracy and are leading us into the hands of a would be dictator. I wish you well, and May God’s love and Jesus’s Salvation guide you through out your life.
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