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Comments by "" (@pwrserge83) on "Protesters and Police in Bloody Clashes: Haiti's Power Struggle (Dispatch 1)" video.
Well, looks like the Marines are going back to Haiti... Again... What is it about these fucktards that they can't be bothered to maintain basic fucking law and order in their own country?
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+Wajeeh Raza Maybe in the 17th century. In the real world, "white oppressors" were the first culture on the planet to fight AGAINST slavery. You're welcome.
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***** You do realize that slavery in the 1600s and 1700s was NORMAL? Right? Even in Africa. Or do you think the a bunch of pasty white guys walked into the African interior and gathered up their own shiploads of slaves? Fun fact, they BOUGHT those slaves from BLACK AFRICAN SLAVE TRADERS. What you have here is a straw man fallacy. You're comparing incomparable things defeating arguments that no-one made.
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***** Oh, I don't know... The American Civil War ring a bell? How about the fact that the Royal Navy shut down the African slave trade? Do you even History bro?
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***** Maybe I'm just someone who sees white guilt tripping for what it is. Bullshit. If it wasn't for Europeans, Africans would still be living in the bronze age. You're welcome.
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***** It's funny how you lack basic reading comprehension.
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***** Yes to both questions. We didn't create the problem, but we fixed it.
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***** The common meaning of that sentence makes no sense as a counter-argument. "yeah so [the Arabs] could use [Africans] as slaves themselves." Repeating my point that "evil white men" put an end to the African slave trade is not an argument.
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rep5281 Legal slavery? Really? Name one western country.
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***** It was OK at the time. The reason it is NOT OK today is because western countries stood up and ended the barbaric practice more or less world-wide. As I said, you're welcome.
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***** Because it's no normal ANYWHERE fucktard.
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***** Oh, and stay on topic. We're talking about the slave trade here. The colonization of the Americas is a much longer and more involved topic. One you are wholly unprepared to tackle.
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***** Again... Retroactive morality. Judging societies none of whose members are alive anymore by modern standards is pants on head retarded. But please. Keep chugging the haterade. Again... You're welcome.
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***** Here's a wacky idea... It's not the government's job to end poverty.
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***** I was deployed to Haiti myself. So, yes WE. Sheridan Robert ... and yet the Dominical Republic, right on the other side of the same island, has never had these problems... It's no paradise, but it's a hell of a lot better than most countries in the Caribbean.
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Pablo Herasme What the fuck are you talking about? HINT: When you use a pronoun in a paragraph it should have a noun to refer to. Do you even English bro?
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***** What "oppression" would that be? Would the be us fighting radicals who murder millions of people?
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Schowiest Sleet Meh, there were plenty of successful bronze level African civilizations. Unfortunately, their social structures really didn't allow them to develop anything even approaching the Greek city states, much less Rome. So yeah, Bronze Age is about right.
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***** Yes fucktard, at the time it was OK. Not because "other people were doing it" but because EVERYONE was doing it. The only reason it became NOT OK is because a bunch of "evil white people" decided that everybody deserves to be treated like a human being. The Brits sent a gigantic chunk of their Navy at their own expense to enforce this policy. The Americans fought the bloodiest war in their history over it. The "white guilt" card only works on ignorant people who have no idea about the history involved.
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***** No fucktard. They (or at least their fellow Africans) got themselves into that mess, we got them out. The African slave trade would not have existed without the eager cooperation of African natives. In fact, without a ready supply of slaves supplied by those natives, it would not have even been economically feasible.
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NoWorldOrder You going to join the historical revisionist club with the retards above?
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***** You can't deny something that didn't happen fucktard. Again. Applying retroactive morality is the sign of someone who has no idea what the fuck they are talking about.
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***** You refuted jack shit. Go home kid, you're out of your weight class. Right now, you're stuffing straw men.
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***** [CITATION NEEDED] Oh, and I'm not defending slavery. I'm defending HISTORY from revisionists like you so eager to place the blame for a complicated socio-economic system on one group when that group was the one that ENDED the system.
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***** You keep bringing up the Bible, but you have yet to cite the passage on point. That makes your statement an assertion, not an argument. There are plenty of instances of people owning slaves in the Bible. Here's a passage for you. Ephesians 6:5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.
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***** It was ACCEPTED as wrong centuries after the fact and by a vocal, but tiny, minority that then fought for decades to change public perceptions.
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***** You do realize that morality is a matter of public consensus? Right? Do you even anthropology bro?
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***** ... and about 80% of the American population at the time. Hell, even UNION states had slaves until well after the Civil War ended.
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***** Yeah, no... But please, keep stuffing your straw men.
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***** Given that societies define morality? Yes. But you'd have to get the majority of the PLANET to agree, not just the US.
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***** Except that the majority of people DID have a problem with the Holocaust. The Nazi party did not represent the majority of the planet. So sorry, your Third Reich was not as popular as you lefties like to think.
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***** Do you even know what "retroactively" means? You're clutching at straws bro and are about two posts from being blocked. It's like arguing with a particularly racist and ignorant brick wall.
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***** Yes. By definition. As I just said, morality is a function of societal consensus.
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Johnny Johnson Yes... Because the US government TOTALY gives a shit about some shithole in the middle of nowhere. Why is it that the Dominican Republic, on the other side of the same fucking island, has none of these problems?
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***** It is the government's job to prevent unjustified initiation of force and to protect property rights. THAT IS IT.
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Johnny Johnson Yeah... Keep believing that. I was IN Haiti a few years back. Their only problem is an utter lack of will to do anything about their situation.
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Johnny Johnson I was making less than minimum wage given the hours worked. Or do you think USMC NCOs make piles of money?
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Johnny Johnson So what happened? It's not like the US is getting in there and telling them not do work.
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***** Funny how we had all these things before massive government taxation. Don't forget that the 16th amendment was only passed around WWI. Did we not have roads before WWI? Sewers? Police? Firefighters? Oh, wait. All of those are LOCAL government programs that have nothing to do with federal taxes. Your 'muh ROADS! argument is absurd on its face.
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***** Actually, no, no I don't. But your argument is a non-starter. What Haiti should do is what the US did in the 1800s. Get up and do some fucking work.
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***** The video is not evidence enough? Look at the state of the country. It blatantly shows that people just don't care. I mean seriously, how hard is it to pick up some litter? BTW... I was IN Haiti not that long ago. We were building basic infrastructure for them and all they did was sit on their asses.
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***** Maybe instead of protesting they should do some fucking work? Rioters like these fuckers should be shot on sight.
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***** Like I said fucktard. Litter. Litter everywhere. Go clean up your neighborhood, then come complain about shit needing to get done.
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Neworld 26 No, more or less you have to be stupid, uneducated and racist to BE a liberal. Why do you think we call them Demokkkrats in the US?
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