Comments by "Persona" (@ArawnOfAnnwn) on "Asianometry"
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@The31stcenturyfox "it wasn't the US that started the conflict" - that's not the only conflict the US has been in bruh. It's been at war for most of its history. Just looking at its post-WW2 history, here's a partial list of places that it has screwed over - Angola, Argentina, Afghanistan, Bolivia, Cambodia, Chad, Chile, Cuba, Dominican Republic, El Savador, Grenada, Gautemala, Honduras, Iran, Iraq, Laos, Nicaragua, Panama, Sudan, Vietnam, Yemen, etc. There's a reason a lot of the world outside Europe don't exactly adore the US. Hell that last one, Vietnam, killed far more people than the atomic bombs. 3 MILLION dead. Yet what does America tend to highlight more, and which drove it to leave (after nearly 20 years of war btw)? The 50k American deaths.
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@JohnLee-db9zt Bruh it is literally already within spitting distance of the top spot, and still growing. While the Korean ship industry has mostly stalled. I also love how you people always make everything about the West, as if the rest of the world doesn't exist. And then turn round and complain about how 'true globalization' wouldn't be all about one country. No, there is a world out there beyond the West, as shocking as this may be to hear, and it's actually where most global growth is happening. It'd also be wise not to lump in the whole West for everything the US does. Hell it's always amusing to hear that phrase used and yet it doesn't even cover all the actual western hemisphere, since South America is never considered in it. China is their largest trade partner btw, despite the US being much closer.
The video itself mentioned the Chinese challenge. They're widely expected to unseat Korea soon. And if you think Chinese ships are too poor quality, then 1) that flies in the face of the industry, which needs reliability above all else (these are not toys), and 2) patently fails to explain how they got so big to begin with, unless you seriously believe billion dollar businesses just all bought the cheapest crap they could find en masse. These things are at the heart of global trade where failures cost a fortune.
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@brag0001 "the West changed its values which set them free" - lol yeah right. I've already dealt with this idiocy above, but you do know what Russia tried to do initially right? Take Kiev. Not for themselves, but to replace its govt with a less 'nazi' one, which is basically propaganda-speak for one more friendly to Moscow. In other words, regime change. Indeed Russia actually had little problem with Ukraine before 2014 i.e. the Maidan revolution which saw them turn to the west. But guess what? Putting in place friendly regimes is nothing new to you guys - that's pretty much what you've been doing for decades too, in the Middle East, in South East Asia, in Africa and in Latin America. It's far more convenient than annexation, as the messy business of governance is foisted onto the puppet. And we don't need to look back to our colonial past to see how duplicitous the west can be. We've already had the US sanction us before, support our enemy next door and even threaten us with its military before, all after we got independence. Ironically Russia was the opposite - consistent and reliable. Your 'oh the west is so moral' blinkers are blinding YOU to the history of the world as seen by pretty much everyone outside of the west.
Also convenient of you to try taking credit for the success of other nations. And then pretend you did it out of magnanimity, as if western companies didn't make billions out of it lmao! Your democracies schtick is also pathetic - the west has allied with plenty of autocracies (KSA for example) and even helped install many of them (Guatemala for example). It has even fought wars for them. Hell I bet you think South Vietnam was democratic lol. It even supports the active suppression of democracy in places cos it knows it'll turn against them (the Muslim Brotherhood for example). You guys go on about democracy in Cuba for instance, while conveniently forgetting that Castro's predecessor Batista was also a dictator and supported by America.
You know it's funny you make fun of the Trumpists, cos you sound just as delusional as they are. At least Trump didn't try to play up the illusion of virtue and respectability, while people like you not only trumpet (hah!) it, but have even fallen for it.
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