Comments by "Persona" (@ArawnOfAnnwn) on "Are Sanctions Against Russia Really Working? - VisualEconomik EN" video.

@fankrys Also, sanctions have never worked as an 'incentive'. They've literally been one long series of failures at doing just that, over the course of decades of use, with the only claimed success story being that of apartheid South Africa which already had a strong local movement against it. Even now - Iran's been under sanctions for ages. They're still helping the Russians, even at the risk of more sanctions and the scuttling of the new nuclear deal that's still being finalized. Even goddamn North Korea, which barely has an economy, hasn't been cowed by sanctions. All sanctions do is make people hate you. I'd argue they make them hate you even more than war in fact, since sanctions also just come off as cowardly. At least war involves you putting your own necks on the line, sanctions don't. The west keeps using sanctions not because they've ever proven themselves effective, but simply because it's a convenient way to pretend you're doing something without risking getting your own soldiers embroiled in war. Sanctions are precisely for the home votebase - to convince the citizenry that we're doing something, while risking little.
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Sanctions haven't ever deterred anyone. They've literally been one long series of failures at doing just that, over the course of decades of use, with the only claimed success story being that of apartheid South Africa which already had a strong local movement against it. Even now - Iran's been under sanctions for ages. They're still helping the Russians, even at the risk of more sanctions and the scuttling of the new nuclear deal that's still being finalized. Even goddamn North Korea, which barely has an economy, hasn't been cowed by sanctions. All sanctions do is make people hate you. I'd argue they make them hate you even more than war in fact, since sanctions also just come off as cowardly. At least war involves you putting your own necks on the line, sanctions don't. The west keeps using sanctions not because they've ever proven themselves effective, but simply because it's a convenient way to pretend you're doing something without risking getting your own soldiers embroiled in war. Sanctions are, in other words, precisely for the home votebase - to convince the home population that we're doing something, but risking little.
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There are no more sanctions. The west has literally exhausted most of the options it had. The only things left to sanction are things like food, which would end up only hurting the rest of the world more (not that the current sanctions haven't already done that).
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Sanctions haven't ever broken anyone. They've literally been one long series of failures at doing just that, over the course of decades of use, with the only claimed success story being that of apartheid South Africa which already had a strong local movement against it. Even now - Iran's been under sanctions for ages. They're still helping the Russians, even at the risk of more sanctions and the scuttling of the new nuclear deal that's still being finalized. All sanctions do is make people hate you. I'd argue they make them hate you even more than war in fact, since sanctions also just come off as cowardly. At least war involves you putting your own necks on the line, sanctions don't. The west keeps using sanctions not because they've ever proven themselves effective, but simply because it's a convenient way to pretend you're doing something without risking getting your own soldiers embroiled in war. Sanctions are, in other words, precisely for the home votebase - to convince the home population that we're doing something, while risking little.
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@labas8396 Cos the main thing they've achieved is to send the larger global economy into a tailspin, hurting even more nations.
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@fankrys You can't. There are effectively no more sanctions. The west has literally exhausted most of the options it had. The only things left to sanction are things like food, which would end up only hurting the rest of the world more (not that the current sanctions haven't already done that). Keep in mind that these supposedly 'global' sanctions are only by about 50 nations - almost of which are members of the EU. The rest of the world isn't part of it. In order to hurt Russia now, you'd have to rely on nations the west has already pissed off who're in no mood to sanction them. Even supposed allies like Saudi Arabia aren't playing ball with Washington cos Biden pissed off their leadership earlier.
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