Comments by "Persona" (@ArawnOfAnnwn) on "How could CHINA BLACKMAIL THE WEST? (And score points in the TECHNOLOGY WAR) - VisualPolitik EN" video.

@dr.winner2516 Actually, the US has a much larger prison population than that of China, and yes that includes the million or so in Xinjiang. The US prison numbers still lead the world, by far. And keep in mind that this is despite that the US only has a quarter of China's total population. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2020.html
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@dr.winner2516 You missed the part where your response to that was...vacuous? Go talk to some black people about how the criminal justice system treats them. Many do spend large parts of their lives in prison.
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@nerdlingeeksly5192 Lol, a nationalist eh? Funny thing about being aggressive - the US has launched several wars in the last few decades, Russia 1 and China none. This doesn't require listening to any Chinese propaganda to see. Here's what the rest of the world thinks of who's the most aggressive - https://brilliantmaps.com/threat-to-peace/ And I wouldn't worry about the US defence. They're pretty much the safest nation on Earth, what with two massive oceans plus two weak neighbours surrounding you. Neither China nor Russia has any capacity to seriously attack America, short of the nukes flying. What whatever military leverage they do have might afford them is simply insurance against the US sending its military closer to THEIR territory, not the reverse. Which the US has long shown is quite willing to do, all over the world.
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It's funny how the US wrings its hands so much over the Uighurs being replaced by Han Chinese, while unfailingly supporting very similar kinds of population resettlement policies carried out by its homeboy Israel. That's not some crime of the past (which the West has plenty of), but the ongoing present. Ditto their campaign against "communism", while trying to curry favor with the similarly communist Vietnam. Or their defense of the 'free world', while supporting other authoritarian governments the world over to this day.
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@SuperLusername Lol, Chinese and Russians relations are very friendly right now. Both among the leadership and among the populace.
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Lincoln Schiffer Lol, the US has two neighbours who're far weaker than it, literally the world's two largest oceans protecting it from attack by anyone else, and still has managed to get itself into multiple times more wars so far from its shores that borders weren't even an issue. And then there's your lame attempt at trying to disturb me by targeting my home, ironically for the actions of the worlds' previous western imperial power i.e. what America took over at. Weak. You're still celebrating the world's biggest warmonger, which has well earned its reputation - https://brilliantmaps.com/threat-to-peace/ Since you were salty enough to write 3 comments in response, next time try turning that imperial apologist passion of yours towards actually doing some research for a change instead of spouting cheap potshots and empty rhetoric. Remember, you've got a whole world to convince, not just your fellow imperialists.
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"I am appalled at..." - are you like one of those people who often sends in letters to the editor of your local newspaper? Cos you certainly sound like one of those types... I hope you're not on Twitter.
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@AkumaNoKuma Lol, you really had to go back more than half a century ago. Why not just bring up Mao then? This is why I said last few decades, not a century or more. Meanwhile, I can name a bunch of US military actions taken even just since the turn of this century. I can even point out that the Chinese takeover of both those places still killed fewer people than the Vietnam War, which is also more recent. I can also point out that despite all the attention given to the Xinjiang camps, the US STILL has more people in its prison system than China does (including the million or so Uighurs), and that's despite the US having a quarter of China's population. And what of the flipside? China has managed the largest poverty reduction campaign - over 800 million people in just 30 years (and this is a WB figure) - in history, despite starting from penury, while the richest country on Earth still has one of the highest poverty rates in the developed world. And while China may be authoritarian itself, it hasn't propped up even half as many authoritarian regimes as the US has over the years, nor tried to topple half as many democratic ones. And so on... The numbers just aren't on your side bro, at least not since after Mao died. You don't need to listen to any Chinese propaganda to know that - just perusing the chequered history of US foreign policy on Wikipedia will do. And you can tell the record is damning, because this is coming from someone with far more reason to hate China than you mollycoddled westerners - an Indian aka one of the countries China actually HAS gone to war with, and continues to antagonise. I've no soft spot for China, but the US has earned its top spot on that world poll map I shared. Ironically, we're the ones keeping Tibet alive, so don't bother lecturing me about them. It's just that we've had centuries of experience of western self-righteousness and hypocrisy to not fall for it again.
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@SuperLusername Even if that's all there is to it, they're still likely to remain friends. Pretty much for as long as the US remains world hegemon. So they're not gonna turn on each other anytime soon.
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@AkumaNoKuma Lmao! You must be new to geopolitics. Labels are a powerful thing, which is why, for instance, Turkey is bristling right now at Biden calling its century old mass killing a 'genocide', despite that Turkey itself acknowledges lots of people died in that event. The same goes for war - everyone likes to call their military operations other things. Anyway, to answer your specific question - Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria (yes, besides their much publicized troop withdrawals). But really, if you include their various special operations missions, that'd be well over 100 nations aka anywhere between 40 and 70 PERCENT OF THE WORLD'S NATIONS. #Exposed indeed lmao! Here, do some reading - https://tomdispatch.com/nick-turse-special-ops-shadow-wars-and-the-golden-age-of-the-gray-zone/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/map-shows-places-world-where-us-military-operates-180970997/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/03/28/all-the-countries-worldwide-with-a-u-s-military-presence-infographic/?sh=2d948368728c https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/10/07/were-suing-pentagon-find-out-where-us-troops-are-deployed/ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/21/world/middleeast/us-troops-deployments.html And I find it ironic that you'd choose to focus on the present than the past, given that you yourself brought up Chinese actions taken three quarters of a century ago to make your case earlier. And didn't even have the knowledge to mention their 1960s wars with us, because of course the west hasn't heard of anything except for Tibet (and that too mainly thanks to Hollywood). And of course you'd like to claim the authoritarian high ground, despite the scores of authoritarian regimes the US has propped up (as pointed out earlier). Now why don't you stop using the lazy question begging tactic and back up your case for a change. How about naming even a tenth as many countries that have active Chinese warfighting going on in them? That should require, what, maybe just a dozen countries? Go on then. Best of luck!
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@AkumaNoKuma Lmao! Big words for someone who's presented nothing. Such a lazy troll... :)
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Lincoln Schiffer Lmao! You're only making yourself and by extension the US look bad now. Keep trying, troll! xD
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@TheAsagrim You people really are desperate to come up with any explanation you can imagine to suit your own biases. The data is there, and whenever you don't like it, you simply disavow it in favor of what you'd like to believe. Hell, even the Xinjiang claims are disputed, yet I just took them at face value - and America STILL lost. But you'll resort to any imaginable reason to continue believing what you want to believe. Anything to cater to your own biases, eh? And it is a bias, because there's plenty of historical examples of the US govt. also keeping information secret, usually under the guise of national security. We know this because that information did come out - when it was finally declassified literally decades later. You think just because a country is democratic that it can't keep secrets, or for some reason won't? That's classic biased thinking - assume the best for the nations you like, while assuming the worst for the ones you don't. The data is there. Even the speculative estimates wrt Xinjiang are there. And the US still comes out poorly. And keep in mind that this is just for imprisonment. If you want to start counting other things like violent deaths, the figures are overwhelmingly against the US (at least after Mao's time). And the reason is very easy to imagine, and not secret at all - the US has been fighting all over the world right up to the present day, while for China you'd have to go back over half a century to find their last war. Similarly for the flipside aka improving people's lives - China has recorded the largest poverty reduction in history (over 800 million people in about 30 years - and this is according to the World Bank), while the richest country in the world still has one of the highest poverty rates among developed nations. And so on. These numbers aren't even controversial - well established international institutions accept them. But you people won't, because anything - anything! - is preferable to admitting that you might be wrong.
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@od9694 Most also think the criminal justice system is biased against them. People may be okay with a rule of law that's tough but fair. Right now it's only the former.
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@TheAsagrim See, the problem with your tactic there is that you list a whole bunch of issues you have with China, versus just one catch-all phrase for the US ("the US went to war"), which makes it look like the US only did one bad thing by lumping all its warmongering together. A less manipulative way of presenting that case would've been to mention each war, special operation or propping up of a dictator separately, against each of your China points. Not to mention some other issues raised were simply ignored (like the US' higher prison population, or continued poverty despite its enormous wealth). Then it'd be clearer that the US didn't launch a war somewhere in the world just once, but time and time and time again. Cheap tactic. I don't need to resort to misleading lists btw. I can simply look at the overall numbers. The number of people killed in all those wars, for instance. Or the proportion of people in prison. Or the percentage change in poverty. And so on. And they don't paint a very flattering picture of the US, I can tell you that. The only time when China looks worse is under Mao, which was over half a century ago. Ever since Deng, the US looks terrible in comparison, and this map of the worlds' opinion of it is the end result of that i.e. of decades spent earning its bad reputation - https://brilliantmaps.com/threat-to-peace/
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@Beantastrophe Why don't you people stop expending all your prodigious brain power trying to come up with ideas to undermine the data that is internationally used (including by organisations in the US), and instead use it to do the work of coming up with a credible alternative? If you were presenting as a professional journalist or academic, idle hand waving like this would never pass. We have data, which is published by international media and research organisations. If you don't like it, get better data and try to win it as much institutional acceptance.
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