Comments by "Persona" (@ArawnOfAnnwn) on "CaspianReport"
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@wlee9888 Hey, I can list nations too! Here you go, all of them have a rather interesting history with the US - Afghanistan, Angola, Argentina, Bolivia, Cambodia, Chad, Chile, Columbia, Cuba, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Grenada, Gautemala, Honduras, Iraq, Korea, Laos, Nicaragua, Panama, Sudan, Vietnam, etc. Oh, look who's list is longer!
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@fearlessleader343 Those are internal issues, and that too fairly recent ones. Internal policies created them, and internal policies will attempt to deal with them. That in no way means America has dethroned China. Plus even if they fall through, it won't result in American companies coming back en masse. Meanwhile, Trump blockading China is wishful thinking. Blockades are an act of war, and I rather doubt America has the capacity or the will to engage in a protracted conflict with China right in its backyard, at least without some very strong provocation ala Pearl Harbor-style. Hell, they couldn't even handle far weaker nations in the Middle East or SE Asia. The American govt. will be forced to step back by both international AND domestic pressure long before the Chinese rise up in revolt against their own (just look how long Iran or Cuba has put with the same, and they both have far lower capacities) - it's not like the Chinese people are going to view this positively, they dislike the US probably far more than their own govt. If you think either the US establishment or public is going to tolerate such blatant and obvious swinging of the American dick around (pardon the language, but it conveys the impression well), then you've little appreciation for why Trump is so controversial even for his foreign policy - it's not because it's particularly different (it isn't), but because it's blatant and tactless. Meanwhile, plenty of countries have declining birth rates. China has more capacity than most to deal with that for a long long time - far longer than any period over which we can reasonably speculate the outcome, and certainly longer than both the current US administration, and even several of the successors to it. Hell, they even have millions of poor left to enrich who'll then buy more. There's plenty of room for incomes of the middle class to rise further as well, which powers further consumption. China isn't Japan or Germany - far from it (and even those nations are still doing okay, especially Germany). The reason China's domestic consumption is relatively low isn't because of its lowered population growth, but simply because the Chinese (like the Japanese, and unlike the Americans) save obsessively rather than spend more. That's a cultural thing, not demographic, and likely will fade over time as families get more used to being comfortably middle class rather than constantly stressing over their financial insecurities.
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@accent1666 Yes I did forget that, because it mostly isn't a thing. Apart from the odd exception, as well as a bunch of former colonial powers, nations don't tend to fight wars far from their borders. Even today almost all wars not featuring the US are on or close to the nations' borders.
The War on Terror is a very American concept, not something typical of wars in general. Nations don't tend to wage wars against vaguely defined concepts, they wage wars against other nations. Calling it the 'war on terror' just means America reserves the right to wage war on anyone as part of it, as well as lends it that pretty moralistic sheen Americans seem to love having so much. And 'nation-building' lol. That's just stabilizing a client state, similar to in Vietnam. Which you've now failed at. You killed Bin Laden in a special operation in a foreign country, which hardly required war. America fights for geopolitical reasons, dressed up in moral excuses, but that doesn't make it okay.
"We've been in Iraq to depose Hussein" - lol, you don't even realize how weird you are if you think that's such a normal thing to do. Even the WMD excuse, or lies, are hardly typical. This is NOT how most nations today are - they DON'T get to go into countries just cos they don't like who's in charge. You had no reason to go there, which is why the war was roundly rejected as unjustified. You're taking American policy as the default standard, when in fact it's more of an exception. And 'peacekeeping' lol. There's already a global peacekeeping force, and it doesn't belong to America.
China recent war was...in the 50s and 80s lol. You're just proving my point. And those wars themselves showcase the difference between China and the US as well. The Sino-Vietnamese War lasted a month and killed about 60,000 people on both sides. The US Vietnam War lasted nearly two decades and killed over 3 million Vietnamese. Vietnam is also on China's borders, but thousands of miles away from America. It had also not laid a finger on the US, yet you went to war there anyway. Yeah, real nice choice of examples.
"because they aren't the world's superpower police" - yet another example of America taking itself for granted. First off, you're not the world police, there is no world govt. that granted you that mandate, you just like to style yourselves that way. Secondly, you also suck as 'police'. Police is meant to be neutral, and to preserve peace. The US has been far from neutral, and has been in more wars than anyone else. US foreign policy is riddled with hypocrisy and inconsistency, all only united by them all serving American interests. You claim to stand for democracy despite having autocratic allies and even having put dictators into power (Chile, for example). You claim to hate Islamic extremism despite having one of the most extremist Islamic nations on Earth as an ally. There's nothing 'police-like' about you, it's just straightforward pandering to US interests. Stop trying to paint yourself as the 'police' in order to pretend it has any legitimacy, cos it doesn't. That China hasn't done this is just as well, because it isn't a role that exists. Calling the US' bad behavior 'policing' only highlights how Americans will find any excuse to justify said bad behavior.
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