Comments by "Persona" (@ArawnOfAnnwn) on "When North Korea tried to hijack the US dollar" video.

@minoan438 "avoids china like the plague" - bruh, in the last month he's made 3 videos concerning China. That's 3 out of 7 videos made in that period, or almost half of them. But idiots like you will spout whatever suits your biases at that moment, and the wider internet will lap it up without even spending a couple seconds checking its veracity.
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@eduardo-ue4gb That's his own channel. He uses a bunch of throwaway accounts to promote his channel under the vids of other geopolitics channels. You'll see him linking that vid under several of the comments here, cos he's advertising.
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@stephenjenkins7971 Last I checked, 'genocide' involves killing large numbers of people. So what's the death toll of this one? Using scary words does not a genocide make, that's just labeling. Meanwhile, I can give you multiple pretty big estimates of the death toll of some recent wars, but that doesn't get people upset as much cos apparently 'war' is not scary enough sounding. And of course, the 'wrong' country is doing it i.e. the 'good' guy. Is war okay in the modern era? https://www.salon.com/2018/03/19/the-staggering-death-toll-in-iraq_partner/
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What ongoing Beijing one? Care to reference that claim?...
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@ognargormsby7121 Lol! If you think the US gives a rats ass about ideology, you're naive. The US is right now courting Vietnam, a communist country, in order to counter another communist country - China. It's never had anything to do with communism, simply hegemony aka power. Vietnam has 2 million people killed to preserve that hegemony, and now they're a potential key ally for the same goal. Even Russia would be an ally when useful. Hell, so would China. Cos power is all.
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@Ladey Babey The US doesn't give a shit about the Chinese govt either. The CCP has been in power for over half a century, and it didn't bother them. It's also not the only communist or authoritarian govt out there - America actually supports many authoritarian govts itself. The CCP became a problem only when China became powerful i.e. when superpower America found another country muscling onto its turf. And that will continue to be the issue even if it wasn't the CCP in power - as long as China threatens American hegemony, they will continue to be antagonistic towards it.
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@Ladey Babey And what kind of person are you then? The kind to bury your head in the sand and keep repeating comforting ideas to yourself? Your thesis literally doesn't explain things. If authoritarianism is the problem, then why are authoritarian govts. courted as allies? If China being communist is the problem, then why was that not such an issue until recently? And why is it not an issue in other nations? Plus ironically China is more capitalist now than it's ever been, and only getting more so. It recently even opened up its financial sector, with billions flowing in as a result. And it's increasingly promoting free trade agreements these days, even as the US is retreated from them. So your supposed hope that China would turn capitalist is already happening, yet tensions are continuing to rise. Unless you meant to equate 'capitalism' with 'democracy', in which case you're an idiot, since those are two different fields. Even if you did, the majority of things that tensions are rising over are things the Chinese people aren't going to be against anyway (the Uighur issue is pretty much the only thing democracy would change, yet the biggest tensions are over Taiwan and the South China Sea - things the Chinese public has no reason to oppose). Ideology is indeed powerful propaganda - you're being blinded by it right now. You're being led to believe this is some grand moral campaign by the western Allies against Evil Communist China. Lol! It's effective stuff - for PR. And you're falling for it hook, line and sinker. Meanwhile your own elites are protecting their turf while using gullible guppies like you as cover.
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@stephenjenkins7971 Works for CGTN my ass. You can see his bio easily - https://kellogg.nd.edu/w-gyude-moore ; https://www.cgdev.org/expert/w-gyude-moore As someone who actually worked in govt., he's more well placed to give an overview - which he does, if you bothered to watch it, with both positives and negatives. He literally researches it, continent-wide. Unlike your anecdotes and interviews. But it was also shared as a good lesson in bias, since the questions at the end were telling (even other commenters noted it). "Americans are quite divided on foreign policy" - I like to call this the democracy excuse aka Americans can change their policies. Except, they don't. For generations now, US foreign policy has been aggressive. More military operations than not just China, but any other nation. Sure there may be talk, but it doesn't amount to much. And if you think the media coverage is biased against you, you're only revealing your own anger at the other team. American media is split by political alignment (Democrats versus Republicans), not America versus anti-America. It's just that Americans like to think the other team is anti-America, cos of how much they hate each other. Hardly. American hegemony is taken for granted, and both parties have their fair share of warmongering. America has had the chance to change its policies, and hasn't. You aren't tarnished by one bad act, you're tarnished by many, several ongoing. As for the rest of the world, well... - https://brilliantmaps.com/threat-to-peace/ Lol. xD 'Everyone you've talked to' (likely mostly disgruntled diaspora in the US) versus an actual global poll. Once more, the numbers show you up. You're talking to an Indian btw. I have more reason to dislike China than you do. We were even actually invaded by them before, unlike you spoiled rich kids just guarding your hegemony. But that's not gonna make me blind to the numbers. China compares poorly to Sweden (the actual leader in foreign aid) or New Zealand or Costa Rica or Botswana, or even us ('cept in poverty reduction). But compared to the US? Yeah, not even close. And since you mention the Russians, they've also been much more reliable allies for us, unlike the other big democracy (you), who's been as opportunistic and hypocritical as ever. America is useful for us right now, but your history is well known even here.
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@stephenjenkins7971 Wtf?! My first comment wasn't even posted by YT, only the second part. Let's try this again. The 'point' you're defending ignores that you have multiple wars that've killed millions of people, yet you go on about a 'genocide' that you don't have comparable numbers to counter even one of them with, even using your own numbers. And so all you can do is accuse others of bias, which of course you presumably lack, thereby allowing yourself to continue to inflict misery on more millions while feeling good about it. You literally harp on about scary words cos all the dead from war mean nothing. I didn't bring up the Native American population bub, you did. You tried pretending it was comparable, I merely pointed out it wasn't. So you first palmed off all the blame onto the Europeans, then proceeded showcase your own inability to read by, expectedly, bringing up Mao. Lol! I knew you would need to resort to him, which is why I'd already mentioned it. That's how far back you need to go to find comparable numbers for a non-American nation. You want it to be post-WW2 to excuse your historical crimes, and conveniently ignore than my own comment said 'the last half century' cos that'd deprive you of your biggest piece of ammo. See, here's the thing - you people need to harp on about a dead man from half a century ago to make yourselves feel good, I don't. I didn't bring up the Native Americans cos I didn't need to. Unlike Europe, and unlike China, America has continued with its aggressive behavior right up to the present. After all, no one ever punishes it for them, so it never needed to change. Hence why I brought up the Iraq war, one of many atrocities America has inflicted, but the most recent. That continues to this day. And there's plenty of others, both big and small. From full scale invasions to isolated drone strikes, assassinations (you would've heard of a famous one a little over a year go) and special operations. Ironically, Americans portray themselves as the 'champions of freedom and democracy', and yet the country has helped topple democracies the world over, and even has supported more autocratic allies than China likely has so far. Some 'champion'. "It's not like I'm bringing up the CCP invasion of North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, or Tibet." - I brought up the Sino-Vietnamese war, because it shows the massive disparity between the death tolls you guys have versus them. The others aren't any different - all old, and killed far fewer people than America's wars. And your excuse about China's 'ability' is just that. The wars you mention are all old (it's been a long time since China went to war, while you're still at it), but most tellingly - they also all happened when China was still an extremely poor nation. So much for 'ability'. There's plenty of poor nations that're at war (Ethiopia, for a current example), so that's hardly an impediment. No, they haven't gone to war because they haven't chosen to. This comes across as strange to an American, even though it's more of a norm. The US is by far an outlier in being so trigger-happy (you guys are an outlier in a lot of things, from your politics to healthcare to religion to, in this case, foreign policy). Most countries, not just China, don't conduct military operations as frivolously as the US does. Take India, for example - they've been invaded five times since their independence, including once by China, yet they haven't gone on the offensive themselves. And, even more tellingly, most countries have wars on their borders i.e. in which there's some level of existential risk to themselves. Including China. America is the only modern nation (previously it was the Europeans) that faces virtually zero threat to its homeland (you're literally protected by the worlds' two largest oceans, and two very weak neighbours), yet still finds reason to wage wars thousands of miles away. And for all its celebration of its democracy, its people have patently failed to reign in its aggression across multiple generations now. War is too easy to get people riled up for, it seems. China isn't being saintly by not going to war in distant lands on a lark, it's being typical. You guys are the mad shooters, which is an apt metaphor since you also have a significant mad shooter problem at home. They say charity begins at home - in your case, killing does. "A fair criticism of the US is its large prison population. That really doesn't change the fact that China is committing genocide though" - lol, once more the label defense. You don't see a problem just because it doesn't have a scary word attached to it. The only reason the American prison population isn't labeled a genocide is cos it isn't a targeted campaign - though it is highly biased, upon which much ink has been spilled. I'm not simply going to raise the race card here, since that's not the point. The point is that you're falling back on a label as a cheap defense for causing more misery. You have more people in jail - that doesn't bother you simply because it doesn't have the Big Bad Word applied to it. You don't care about the actual people or numbers, merely the PR. America invented PR, so this is perhaps apt. You even use it domestically - white mass shooters in the US are rarely called 'terrorism', but if a colored person does it it often is. That's the power of labels, which you're falling back on here. But it doesn't change the facts, which is that America's crimes even make a 'genocide' look smaller. Foreign 'aid'...ah yes. 'Aid' that disproportionately goes towards allies, including hilariously Israel, another developed country. Only 56% of your aid is development and humanitarian aid fyi, while a whopping 44% of it is military and political 'aid'. You've also given out plenty of loans btw, which I'd mentioned above (those SAPs from the IMF), except they too were tied up in political conditions and led to ruin. Most of China's loans so far have been far more usable, hence why countries go for them. But how about that aid huh? Why not just use the 'free' money? Your 'source' for it was hilariously from a campaign to preserve it, which of course has a vested interest in playing up its impact. And they did - by literally co-opting global achievements and laying it all at the foot of America! And you talk about biased media? Lol, that isn't even biased media - that's just you being biased. There is an actual source for US foreign aid contributions, which they cite as well btw, but which you apparently failed to check up on. Here it is - https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/08/foreign-aid-these-countries-are-the-most-generous/ You'll look at that first chart and congratulate yourself, cos that's how bias plays out. But the second chart reveals the true story - the US is actually an underperformer here too. The most generous nation is Sweden, and the US doesn't even show up in that chart. You guys don't give that much of what you have, you just have a bigger economy. You're essentially the equivalent of that multi-billionaire who gives the odd million out and turns it into a media event. And this is from the richest nation on Earth. China for its part gives out about $4.4 billion in development assistance (the gross US figure is $34 billion, albeit half of it isn't 'aid'), tho ironically your excuse about China being too poor for war would actually provide them an out here instead, since they're still actively developing their own country. The US underperforms on aid relative to its GDP, but it doesn't have that that excuse - it still has high poverty for a developed nation, but that's mostly due to unwillingness rather than inability - they've had the most money in the world for a century now, China is the opposite. Anyway, I'm not going to claim China is some humanitarian champion, rather simply that the US hasn't actually done as well as you think with aid. Certainly nowhere near enough to offset the damage they've done with their ceaseless wars - something China hasn't done for a long time. As as aside, hilariously enough, Americans seem to think they spend an average of 28% of the budget on aid, when the true answer is way less than 1%. The US actually ranks near the bottom on aid relative to its GDP compared to other developed countries. Next time try getting your ideas from somewhere not as obviously agenda-driven as a petition.
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@stephenjenkins7971 I don't need to say anti-Chinese bub. You're still harping on labels, and failing to provide a death toll. Your Alternet angle is a nice strawman, albeit a dumb one. The article was merely republished from there, the figure isn't theirs. The figure is based on extrapolating from the Lancet report on the casualties of the war, which only runs upto 2006 and was already over double your figure. Rather convenient for you that the Americans and Brits don't want anyone counting their killings anymore. Ironic that you mention the Native Americans btw - since it literally isn't like that. Why not? The Native Americans mostly died. The Uighurs are still very much alive. But even if we were to take your 300,000 figure (and there's plenty that put it at over half a million - and that's from over a decade ago), that's still 300,000 more dead people compared to how many in China? Oh right, China isn't killing people in large numbers (inb4 you scream organ harvesting, and still fail to provide the requisite numbers for it). But no, people dying in war makes it okay. And that's one war, I haven't brought up the US' other invasions and military misadventures all across the Middle East (including of course Afghanistan), South America and, ironically, South East Asia (imagine going from killing 2 million Vietnamese to courting them as an ally). And what was the rationale for any of this? At least China can claim that Xinjiang is a restive and rebellious province (not that that justifies what they're doing of course), but the US can claim what? America hasn't faced a credible threat to its homeland since the Cuban missile crisis. Speaking of Cuba, the contrast between what America gets away with against them (sanctions, blockades, even an invasion) versus what China is hit on for Taiwan (70 years of mostly threats and provocations) is telling. There's a reason one superpower has a shattered island next to it, while the other has a thriving one. In any case, the death counts, whoever does the counting, are still heavily stacked against America. You need to go back to Mao and Stalin's time to find higher numbers of dead from a non-US nation. As an illustration, the American escapade in Vietnam killed over 2 million Vietnamese people in 2 decades, while the following Chinese one killed 60,000 on both sides in a month. Those are the kinds of disparities at play here. Those articles you've linked merely say that China has committed human rights violations, they DON'T say that China has hurt more people than America. I'm not here to argue that China is a nice place, simply that America is the bigger criminal - and gets away with it a lot more. Those same organisations have also criticized the US before - they're not in the business of presenting the US as the good guys, their reports are just specific to each country rather than a ranking. So we've got dead bodies. What about other things? Torture? I don't need to tell you about the US' own infamous history on that, as it's widely reported. How about imprisonment? Ironically, despite all the outrage over China's internment camps for those million Uighurs - AND despite that China has 4 times the US population - China still has less people in prison than the US. A million Uighurs, and a total of about 1.6 million prisoners for China. The US figure? 2.3 million. The former for a country of 1.4 billion people, the latter for a nation of 330 million. But of course the US does it cos of 'crime', which just like war, makes it alright (never mind that other countries, including China, also deal with crime - and have lower numbers). https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2020.html Those human rights organisations aren't on your side bub - they simply don't like China either. Nor do I. But the numbers show that in the last half century the US has spread more death and suffering the world over. Meanwhile in that same time (actually less) China has raised over 2.5 times the entire US population out of poverty, starting from a state of destitution. While the US, the richest country in the world, jostles with Israel for the honor of having the highest poverty in the developed world. https://www.worldbank.org/en/country/china And on and on the western bias goes. The nation that's now pushing itself as the global policeman against nuclear proliferation is also one of the only ones to proliferate them itself (Israel), and also THE only one to ever use them on people (Japan). Or how about when the west undermines nations with their loans, it gets a pass. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_adjustment#Criticisms But when China provides loans that don't undercut national sovereignty, it gets hammered on (don't even bother bringing up that one port, you'll only embarrass yourself if you try). Cos of course most of the commentators are western. Here it from an actual African for a change, and note how hard his western audience try to still paint things as bad - https://youtu.be/P5uzxV8ub9k There's plenty of examples of how self-serving your narratives are. After all, they've been used to justify whole wars, and in this case even treat mass death as acceptable just cos it happened in a war. The worst thing is that it isn't even your govt. that's lying to you the most - you lie and minimize to yourselves. Cos it makes you feel good, it feeds your egos as the worlds' 'good guys'. It isn't forced state propaganda - it's just what sells best. You people love painting yourselves as heroes.
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