Comments by "DeoMachina" (@DeoMachina) on "ContraPoints"
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The identities of those involved in the trial were not public knowledge, Lennon broadcast them to the world. The Jury are permitted to know the details of a case (shocking, I know). You cannot win this argument. These are black-and-white facts.
Other media outlets were waiting until after the trial was over before releasing the information, that is allowed because you cannot retroactively affect the case once it is over. No other outlets leaked names beforehand, as they were not public knowledge. You are lying again.
I still don't know the identities of anybody involved with the case, it was not reported until after the case was over, in accordance with the law. So you are factually incorrect again.
Regardless, the alternative is letting a criminal break the law with impunity, do you think that's how a country with laws should operate? Just let famous people get away with things because they have influence?
People are hardly suppressed by "pc culture" (A term you cannot define). If we were, I wouldn't have to endure constant whining about brown people existing in the media and from politicians.
Only one media outlet claimed Hillary would win with 95% confidence, and provided they did the maths, they get to say whatever they like about her chances. But that has nothing to do with PC culture.
The Brexit vote was extremely close, it's not odd that people would assume either side was going to win. Regardless, the media is almost wholly owned by right-wing interests. I can only think of perhaps one or two newspapers that print anything left-of-centre. Don't pretend you're the one not being represented.
I have already corrected you on the overton window, there has not been a left-wing government in 40 years. Stop being wrong.
You seem to think that because you get called a racist a lot, it cannot possibly be true. But guess what it looks like when you ignore all the data that indicates immigration is positive? Yeah exactly.
People do not "hide their true feelings" about immigration. Anti-immigrant rhetoric is plastered over every single tabloid, every single week. Over 33% of Question Time episodes feature UKIP members, despite the fact that they haven't won a single seat. The Tories are even deporting people seemingly at random. Stop lying, anti-immigrant rhetoric is mainstream and always has been. Nobody is hiding anything. Stop lying.
There is nothing inherently left or right wing about LGBT, marriage or human rights.
Bernie Sanders is maybe the only elected socialist in US history, stop panicking.#
You cannot point to things like welfare or immigration and say that any nation with these two things is leftist, that is totally asinine. What next, any nation with an army is left-wing, simply because it's state funded? Even right-wing parties agree that state healthcare is better than simply letting the population die horribly from preventable diseases.
The irony here is that you keep whining about being called racist, and yet you think it's inherently left-wing to allow foreigners into your country. But that's something you could only believe if you WERE a racist. Pure conservatism would allow people the freedom to move as they pleased, after all, that is the basis of commerce. But that cannot be what you are, so what are you? Exactly. Stop lying.
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Your counter seems to be "any problem can be blamed on the state, we're clearly not capitalist enough", and it's really not the clever get-out you think it is. What you just did is essentially make the "REAL communism has never been tried!" argument, but for capitalism. Yeah cool, your 'real' definition is a paradox and cannot exist, therefore you can freely hide from any criticism by pretending it doesn't apply to you. But that's utterly transparent, nobody is fooled here.
In regards to this "temporary efficiency", explain why the USA cannot get high-quality internet provision after decades? You'd think the lazy, inefficient and expensive ISP's would be pushed aside by keener, more competitive companies, but the reality is that they are ALL lazy, inefficient and expensive. It's more profitable for them to be so. Going to blame this on the state again?
Healthcare is literally the right to exist, the idea that human beings have an inherent dignity and their lives are worth protecting. If you're not willing to admit that much, then you have lost this argument, and your humanity. There is no way for you to argue your point without agreeing that this basic fact has some weight to it.
As for education, it is no longer possible to have even a simple job without one. Your ideal society could not function without the provision of education. There would have to be some way of making the working class suitable to do their jobs. They wouldn't be able to pay for it themselves, and businesses would have to leave for other countries.
This is now the third time I have corrected you on the state of the NHS, people are only dying because of capitalists that want to rid the nation of socialised healthcare.
Listen to yourself, "no motivation to improve"? Huh? You realise that companies literally pay people to improve organisations, right? This is true in both public and private sectors. How is getting paid NOT a motivation?
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