Comments by "DeoMachina" (@DeoMachina) on "None of You Understood Black Panther...(2018)" video.

He's a little bit to close to actual white supremacists for anybody to give him the benefit of the doubt Also as a Scot I want to make it known his accent is trash
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What's truly sad is that you seem to think that media produced for children is inherently devoid of meaning. I'm sorry about your upbringing.
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None of this is remotely accurate, you have never read about African history. "reaping the benefits of modern society. Which yes Europeans made" So what did they need millions of slaves for then? Decoration? Listen to yourself lmao
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You guys always break out the thesaurus when you want to type some crude shit like "kids should be shot that's actually good I 100% believe anybody who owns a gun"
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My brother in christ He seized power in a coup and ruled for decades with absolute authority
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@Jonathan-gk8jq "Yeah so when I was talking about one dimensional political takes, that's pretty much exactly what I'm talking about" I'm sorry if 'killing millions of people is wrong actually' is too simplistic for you "They probably just froze all the assets because they're like really greedy right?" Doesn't matter why. Nothing justifies barbarity on this scale. The people who will suffer did nothing wrong.
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@Jonathan-gk8jq "you do understand that that's the fault of the Taliban right" Unless the Taliban are infiltrating the US government to pull this off, I don't see how. " Why are you putting responsibility on those who react instead of the people who aggress" Which nation spent nearly 20 years invading the other again? "How do you feel about all the people the Taliban murder for being progressive or gay" Interesting line of argument. So citizens should die en masse if their leadership does bad things? Your thirst for war crimes aside, you realise the USA leadership has done far worse than the Taliban ever will, right?
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@Jonathan-gk8jq "Sanctions are an important way to get countries to stop pressing their people because even the citizens of the country know what needs to happen in order for the sanctions to end" So you're telling me that it's actually good to starve millions of people if it forces them to attack your enemy? Congrats! You're an irredeemable monster! "Al-Qaeda with support of the Taliban bombed the United States" Wow I can't believe they would just do that for no reason Hey remind me who funded and armed these groups in the 1980's again? " the 20 year occupation isn't very relevant when talking about if we should give the Taliban money." I'm not saying we should give them money. I'm actually opposed to giving them money. I am saying - looting poor countries is wrong. "The difference is America changes with every administration" It's had the same two parties forever, it's not that different and Henry Kissenger isn't in jail somehow.
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@Jonathan-gk8jq In the USA's case a good start would be to stop destabalising other countries, assassinating their leaders and funding coups against progressive parties. And also stop supporting nations engaged in ongoing genocide Just some tips there, a few ideas to get started
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@Jonathan-gk8jq Seems like it answers it pretty well to me. If the USA hadn't interfered with Afganistan and Russia we would have better leadership in both.
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@Jonathan-gk8jq Have you considered diplomacy
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@Jonathan-gk8jq The thing is, I'm right. Diplomacy could have solved all of these problems. You don't agree? I don't care, your 'solution' was the murder of millions of civilians who hadn't done anything wrong. Your opinion doesn't matter.
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"Is that how you think America exploits other countries in the modern day? Are you living in 1810" Just so you're aware the USA froze the assets of an entire nation recently, and now millions of people risk starving to death because the country cannot actually import anything.
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@Jonathan-gk8jq You're advocating for the deaths of huge numbers of people, I don't give a fuck if you take me seriously or not. "You think the answer is just diplomacy whatever that is supposed to mean here" In this case it would mean giving Afganistan its stolen money back "you're not giving the Taliban any agency over their own country, as if the money the US is holding (which you have no evidence they've spent any of) is the only way that Afghanistan could give food to its citizens" How do you propose they do it without money "The US is not starving people, it's refusing to give money to the Taliban." It's Afganistan's money! Not a 'gift'. It's money the USA was holding (because they invaded Afganistan)
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@Jonathan-gk8jq "I'm advocating for the Taliban to feed their people" Can't do that if the USA stole all their money can they? " Kind of weird how you support a hostile, none democratic takeover of a country" What are you talking about? I've never supported the USA "They also probably have more money than what the US has." So your accusation is now "The Taliban are starving everybody on purpose" Which interestingly makes the strategy of sanctions redundant, doesn't it? It does, huh.
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@Jonathan-gk8jq "I don't know man it sounds at this point that you're really pro Taliban" This is a lie, recognise that you have resorted to lying to maintain your genocidal position. "considering that you think the Taliban is just going to use that to feed the people" Well this wasn't happening in the year 2000, so clearly yes. " by the way I looked it up and apparently half of the money is already being used to alleviate the crisis there" Read it again. They only said they were going to. By the way, what is the other half being used for? Go on, you looked it up right? Where is all that money going? "Also the Taliban is the one rejecting the deals!" Yeah I think you'll find most people don't want to deal with looters
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@Jonathan-gk8jq If somebody steals all your money and says "I'll buy you some food, on the condition you don't get to touch the money" would you say that was a good deal? Can't help but notice you're ignoring what the other half of the money is being used for, almost like you actually know but can't face up to the shame of acknowledging it.
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lmao you people get so mad at black people existing Like, you don't even need to be here! You could go outside! Instead it's "ohhh I'm gonna find somewhere I know black people are gonna be and OOOH NOW IM MAD"
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@zekayman Coming back after three days to let everybody know how Not Mad you are
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We've had mass shootings, terrorist attacks and serial killers targeting specifically black people in that timeframe "ONE pro-racist march that showed that the right, including Trump supporters, wanted nothing to do with racists" The trump supporters rocked up to the march with all the swastikas and thought "Yeah, this is the place alright!" You're a liar.
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@Jonathan-gk8jq "first of all those civilians haven't been murdered at all, they're just hungry" Real quick, what happens to hungry people again? "Second of all if the United States were to provide humanitarian aid to Afghanistan there is no way the Taliban would allow it" Have you any idea how many people the USA killed in Afganistan Of course they're not welcome back "And third what if they say no to your diplomacy? Because you have no leverage" Newsflash: The Taliban kill their own people. Threatening to kill people doesn't scare them. They do it all the time anyway! So you're just wasting human life and pretending the Taliban will be 'forced' to change. "It's wild to me that you think you figured out the answer better than every country in the entire world" Can we stop for a moment and appreciate the fact that we're not discussing complicated economic theory, but rather the question "is killing millions of people bad or good?" "You don't think maybe there are some people who are smarter than you about this stuff in governments across the entire world?" Hey do me a favour: Look up the UN resolution on "right to food" and tell me which governments voted to support it and which didn't. Notice a pattern? Notice how almost every country is on my side, and only a couple are on yours? "Maybe you should spend more time asking why things happen rather than criticizing them on their face." It happened because the USA wants to kill as many Afgans as possible and use their money to distribute to US citizens. This isn't complicated.
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@ShiningSta18486 Deeply fucked up that you would try to laud the personal austerity of a man who lavished himself with the most ostentatious displays of wealth he could. He was, by definition, a dictator. People were literally executed for dissent. None of this is exaggarated or made up. Idk why you'd go out of your way to defend somebody as mid as Gadaffi anyway but at least own what you're defending
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@michaelprice6448 Your claim = zero threat I proved you wrong You're mad about it
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@niax782 Thanks for reaching out Nia, Not taking suggestions at this time xx
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@ShiningSta18486 You're not even denying what I said, you know I'm right.
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@ShiningSta18486 You haven't contradicted anything I said. You know he spent his people's money on a lavish lifestyle. You know that. You also know people were executed for dissent, that's not news to you. You're denying none of it.
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@ShiningSta18486 This is a lie. You have seen photos of his palace.
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Hey look everybody the guy subscribed to literal white supremacists thinks he gets to have an opinion
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"white people in fact came up with liberalism and decolonization themselves" I'm pretty sure the victims of colonisation were liberating themselves before Europeans figured out that genocide was wrong lmao
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@michaelprice6448 You aren't even trying to argue with me, you haven't addressed what I said. All you can do is say "uhhh but what about that OTHER thing" And like..fuck off? I proved you wrong? Bringing up seperate issues doesn't stop you from being wrong.
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@Lodatzor ""The people of Haiti" ...were not 'victims of colonialism'. They were victims of being sold by Africans to European traders" Where'd you get your history degree, a happy meal? A huge proportion of Haiti's population had never seen Africa. They were held prisoner on a colony by a colonial power. Therefore, victims of colonialism. "and the other half were put to work essentially as slaves by the despotic government they created" If we're going to include 'almost slaves' as slaves then you've only undermined your own point, as European proceeded to create an entire industry of 'almost slaves' after banning slavery. In fact, they decided to simply start murdering Chinese people until China relented and allowed the 'almost sale' of 'almost slaves'. Nice own goal. " IN addition, the United States under John Adams sent food, guns and even warships to assist the revolution" Ooh bold choice to bring the USA into a discussion concerning Haiti! Hey real quick, what happened after that again? What did the USA proceed to do? Can't quite remember, sure it was important though! "They didn't come up with the idea of the 'rights of man'; Europeans did" Oh for sure my man, it would have never have occured to slaves that freedom might be better than slavery if the noble French hadn't shown them the error of their ways ahahahaha "No, France tried to recapture their former territory, which by the way has absolutely nothing to do with the development of abolitionism, which took place in England" Actually it took place in Haiti where slavery was abolished before England got around to doing it. Didn't I already explain this? Hello? This thing on? " Since there were no slaves in England, where slavery had been illegal since the 11th Century, the English public had no idea what was going on in the American colonies" Do you work for Wizards of The Coast? Because this is fantasy. Slaves were brought into England in small numbers, and the public recognised that even should a slave escape in England, he would have to be returned to the one enslaving him. "That doesn't make them perfect, but it sure is curious how you try to deny them credit for their good deeds" 'good deeds' in this case apparently means "Being guilty of terrible, unforgivable crimes against humanity, but agreeing to stop when it ceased to be as economically advantageous". Who knew sainthood could be so easy? All I have to do is go on a killing spree, and take credit for stopping after I get caught! "I'd sure love you to explain to me why Haiti was the only slave revolt among the 'victims of colonialism'," Uh yeah I think the colonial practice of mass murder and genocide might have had something to do with it " those came about from the European Enlightenment, which also predates the Haitian rebellion, and in fact are mostly what inspired the revolt in the first place." Wow yeah and what did Europeans do to non-europeans who pursued any of these ideals again? Let's open the big book of 20th century history and oooohhh noooo this isn't good at all- "I'm very happy to correct you. Let me know if I can educate you further in these topics you barely understand. :)" You have no idea the immense satisfaction I feel watching you get this angry over getting schooled. And the fact you really thought you had something here - marvelous.
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@Lodatzor "Because their ancestors had been sold to them by Africans. Why is it that you assign all the blame to the colonial power who bought the slaves and none to the African powers who actually enslaved them?" Because the Africans who did this did so at the behest of Europeans. They were contracted by Europeans, so if you're going to try to pass the buck you'll find it winds up back at the colonisers. " You see, the revolt on Haiti was basically meaningless to the course of the development of egalitarianism and abolitionism in Europe" You're trying to divert from the point that Haiti had emancipation before Europe did. "But Europe was going to do it anyway a-bloo-bloo" Yeah, well...they didn't. Not until later. "You know who wasn't as bad? People in England, where slavery had been abolished since the 11th Century. " Sure were a lot of English slavers for a country who 'wasn't as bad'. "Even the way you characterize France's attempts to recapture Haiti, and Britain's own interest, is laughable. They were not trying to 'recapture the slaves', they instead wanted the territory back" If this was true, France wouldn't have demanded payment for the lost slaves. Nope, you're wrong again. "Not really. You said they did it without any assistance, which is clearly incorrect. It's funny how you're now trying to change the subject though. :)" Scroll up and read what I actually wrote. You okay? You seem to have trouble with your reading comprehension. "Then how come they hadn't done so before? How come they waited until after the French Revolution to decide that" Plenty of them did. They were hunted and killed, or forced back into slavery. "England abolished slavery in the 11th Century. They only permitted slavery to exist in their American colonies" Well then it's not abolished, is it? Obviously slavers don't think they should be the ones enslaved. "How come they didn't rebel in Africa against the slavemasters there" This is incredible, you're trying to act as if slaves never tried to not be enslaved. I have never seen malfunctioning this terminal. "Absolutely not. In fact it was decreed that when a slave set foot upon English soil he was instantly free" Yes? And when was this again? Go on, please tell me more about when this specifically was decreed :) " That's the good deed. You know who never did that? ANYONE ELSE" I'm pretty sure the slaves who freed themselves thought of it first. "But that was nothing new" You asked the question, you got the answer. Don't whine about it, child. "They helped them, by teaching them how to do so. You see, the British empire went around creating parliaments and democracy in their colonies," Oh right, so the tens of millions of dead bodies were there when the British arrived. My mistake. Genocide denial aside, I was in fact referring to what happens to democratic nations that vote for leaders The West doesn't like. ""Let's open the big book of 20th century history " What, you mean the one where the European powers decolonized voluntarily, created the United Nations and ushered in the most peaceful and prosperous era of world history on record?" Millions of people were killed in purges across Asia and Latin America, which were backed or sometimes directly supported by Western nations.
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@Lodatzor "No, they did it at the behest of themselves" You're hellbent on stripping Europeans of agency here, it's never going to work. It could only work if Europeans bought them specifically to set them free. " the Africans were even worse than the Europeans." Can we do a quick body count check? "England abolished slavery back in the 11th Cemtury" Sure were a lot of English slavers for a nation that abolished slavery.. " England abolished slavery back in the 11th Cemtury" You keep saying this so I thought I'd look it up. I finally see what you're referring to! I mean you're still wrong but we can maybe put that down to your reading comprehension issue rather than malice. "These slavers were a tiny minority of private traders operating in colonies on the other side of the world" Ahistorical, you apparently don't know the slavers lived all over Britain. I guess they just kept really quiet about it? "I read it the first time" Nope, do it again. Want me to start typing slower? You're clearly struggling. "Yes, by literally everyone" Holy shit you're starting to concede points, maybe you can learn after all- "How come they didn't succeed" ..but I just answered this, so maybe I shouldn't be optimistic. "It was codified in 1772" Ah cool cool, so after the whole slave trade thing started yeah yeah "Then how come they went straight back to enslaving others, you idiot" Slavers were all former slaves? What are you babbling on about lmao "You didn't even understand the question" Again, you're just mad that you got the answer lol "The British didn't kill tens of millions of people in genocide you disgusting liar. The British have literally never committed genocide ever." Woah woah woah pump the brakes Ignore everything else, we gotta focus on this The British have never committed genocide? So when Churchill explicitly admitted to it and expressed a desire to have killed off more people..he was lying? Or what? What about the concentration camps? The mass graves? Millions upon millions of dead? We have photographs of this shit! Genocide denial doesn't make Britain look any better...it just makes you into a monster. "You're just an ignorant racist who knows nothing more than what American social media" Ok one more thing, why are you so bent on American social media? I've been using British English the whole time...are you really so dense you didn't notice? "But Asians and Latin Americans. Funny how you forgot that part," Ah yes, Latin America and Asia. Two areas famously untouched by western armies. I can't think of any major events that might contradict you here. Nope! No wars or anything. The west - pure pacifists as everybody knows.
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@Lodatzor "Agency to do what? Oh yeah, to purchase the people that AFRICANS had enslaved and wanted to sell" Starting to think you view the role of Europeans as wholly morally neutral here, I guess this fits in with your genocide denial and now uh...actual war denial? You're denying wars now? Wars that happened so recently we had entire film crews record it? There's absolutely no coming back from this, lol. You're completely discredited. "Sure" Okay any time you want, just let me know "Not really. They were a tiny percentage of British people, who went out into the world and engaged in private trade with the Africans" A tiny percentage of Africans? See, by the same standard, Africans are practically guilt-free. Another incredible own goal. "No matter how many times I do it," Okay but do it at least once maybe "So now you understand that the English abolished slavery back in the 11th Century" I was hinting that perhaps you should also look it up. There's some fine print you missed. "You should try it sometime" I dunno, could you perhaps do it a few more times so I can see how its done? " You can stupidly try to cling to the idea that Haiti invented abolitionism" They freed themselves, so they did. You lose. "The leaders of the Haitian rebellion" You can't keep track of what is being said anymore, this isn't what the context is lmao Are you aged or something? "Only stupid Americans and the people who get their information from stupid Americans think that the British committed genocide" I got my information from the survivors of British genocide though "Neither of these things are true" Incorrect. Churchill wanted to kill more Bengalis and explicitly wrote this down. It is in the historical record. You're a genocide denier. "The Haitians were not 'victims of colonialism'. They were victims of African tradition" Damn, Amazing how those pesky Africans are to blame for uh European colonists keeping them prisoner on an island thousands of miles away Much have been a really advanced African nation to have pulled that trick off " the garbage you are spewing is source din American social media" You have no evidence for this. You're just making up more and more weird claims. "After all, only the West decolonized voluntarily" Pretending the west doesn't maintain colonies is also just...batshit, I have no idea what else to call it. You cannot be reasoned with, not even the most wild conspiracy theorists deny the things you're denying. I think you should come back in a week after you've calmed down or something. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to upset you and kick off a mental health episode or whatever it is you're going through.
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"Also stop asking to put the Assyrian gates back in Iraq. I saw them in Berlin, I could have never seen them in Iraq." What about Iraqis who can't see them in Berlin 🤔
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@gemh89 The joke is that you think I should give more than 5 minutes of my time to somebody who talks he never grew out of 4chan Life is too short
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@Lodatzor I'm happy to correct you: The people of Haiti liberated themselves from slavery without aid of any European nation. In fact, once they achieved emancipation, Europeans spent years trying to enslave them all again. Once that failed, and ONLY when that failed, did they concede that slavery was wrong. However, the Haitian people were never forgiven by the US, UK and France, who spent the next two centuries sabotaging the independent nation, even billing them for the 'loss' of slaves (a practice that continued long after slavery was abolished, interestingly) If you need help filling in any of the other gaps in your knowledge, let me know.
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