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@Voxator "That is just daily dose of USA.... because health insurance for everyone is socialism and that is bad! /s"
exactly. It's one of the reasons I left the US after 6 generations and 45 years. america has literally NORMALIZED not caring about its own people. the cost of health care is so high BECAUSE the system is competitive for profit. every middleman wants a piece. example: I moved to New Zealand (socialized health care) in 2008. Three months after I arrived, I still didn't have residency yet, but got some weird kind of liver ailment that put me on my back in so much pain I could hardly breathe. Went to the hospital. won't bother with all the details, but I will just list all the things they did to help me:
1. 1 day emergency room treatment
2. 3 days in intensive care.
3. 2 different surgeries
4. biopsy
5. 5 days in recovery at hospital.
6. 5 xrays, 3 sonograms
7. 3 months of followup care at the hospital
now remember... I was not a resident, had no insurance, nada.
grand total cost: 11,000.
in the US? that would have easily been 120,000.
why the price difference? no competition, no middlemen. conclusion? capitalism is a huge failure for ANYTHING that should be a basic need for people.
also? new prescriptions here are 10 bucks. refills are free. appointments with your GP once you are resident are 10-20 bucks, max.
americans who think socialism is evil are brainwashed morons.
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see, the key things with all the mavericks you listed is... they actually made predictions based on real observations, or based on already used mathematics. not made up bullshit. If science really relied on authoritarianism, like you are suggesting, then Einstein's predictions themselves never would have become part of any theory, nor would have Heisenberg's. but they did, because people who come up with actual testable ideas gain traction in science, always. Science really is about trying to constantly test our own ideas, not maintain them at all costs.
people like Robitaille aren't basing their "hypotheses" on any real observation, or any preceding science. they are literally making shit up whole hog, and pretending its science. that isn't being a scientific maverick, that's just being a conman.
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@RobtPtak I lived in CA for 45 years. by far and away the state with the most opportunity for jobs, best pay, best educational system (UC, State Unis, City Colleges), and the best scenery. you can wake up in the morning and go surfing, then drive up to the mountains and ski in the afternoon. Redwood forests, Yosemite, big rivers... you name it. Plus, it literally is the single largest agricultural area west of the rockies. it has it all. it wasn't california that convinced me to leave the US, it was california NOT LEAVING THE US, that convinced me to go. California was once the Bear Republic (it's on the flag). It would be FAR better off going back to that and ditching the horror show that the rest of the US is becoming. you have NOTHING to offer.
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"Either spread far and wide by availability of man made food sources where before there had been no natural source of food for the sharks, but usually heavily concentrated in one area where fishing is popular so they can scavenge off of our hard work! "
no.
what has happened is that the sharks were always there, always taking a certain portion of food fishes. It's just that with SOOO much less food fishes (most populations are down by 80% or more!), YOU notice the sharks taking what is left much more than before.
it's simple math.
say you start off with 5 sharks, 5 fisherman, and 200 fish. say the fish reproduce at 5 fish per year.
Say the sharks take one fish each, and the fisherman take 2 each, per year.
at the end of the first year, there are then 190 fish.
at first, you don't notice the sharks taking 5 fish out of 200, just like you don't notice that there are overall 10 fewer fish than there were in the previous year, since likely it would take you about the same amount of time to catch those 2 fish as it did for you the previous year, and the chances a shark would try to take one of the specific fish you were trying to catch is remote (5/190)
but after 10 years, now there are only 100 fish, and not only does it take longer to catch them, but there is a much higher chance now that a shark will try and take the same fish as you.
another 7 years, now only 30 fish left, and you're nearly in a one on one competition with the sharks.
blaming the sharks? not the issue. The sharks have not changed. You've just become more aware of them because of the impact YOU have had.
it's that simple.
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"The electorate doesn't care enough"
...and that is exactly why I left the US, after 45 years and two advanced degrees, after 5 generations. not because of the right wing nutjobs, it was because the left had its collective head in the sand, and refused to believe the warning signs. And that was BEFORE Obama got elected. I saw this coming after W got re-elected. no regrets, but of course I also saw my new homeland ending up the same way after about 20 years. turns out the pandemic sped that up by a couple of years. current government is privatizing everything, selling off our public education system, trying to destroy the treaty with the people who owned this place when Europeans first arrived. Same exact thing happening here. the world is being filled with narcissists, who lean heavily right wing authoritarian. historically, these personality types also volunteer to be soldiers, so their numbers were never as high as they are now. there is the problem. we have to deal with the fact that there is now a HUGE proportion of EVERY population that leans heavily right wing authoritarian. perhaps the largest absolute number that has ever existed on earth. Typically, they got sent off to war and that kept their numbers physically low, but at this point, we have to move beyond that. start realizing we have distinct personalities that DO NOT respond to even basic information in the same way, and just deal with it.
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@heIIomynameis_ the two ideas can coexist like 2+2=4 and yellow /=blue. iow, the best you've got is irrelevance. that's the BEST you've got. In fact, the way religion claims to discover knowledge is wholly incompatible with science, and THAT is the reality. knowledge is not handed down by revelation, as religion insists it is. otherwise, you are just lying. so, the BEST you've got is that religion is entirely irrelevant to how we gain knowledge, and otherwise you are 100% lying about it. accept that, and I can accept your religion, just like I can accept someone who claims to have a best friend that is a 6 foot tall invisible rabbit. harmless, and irrelevant.
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"To put it in simple terms for your minuscule brain, Trump and Republicans are for SMALL government and LITTLE involvement. Democrats are for BIG government and LOTS of involvement. "
who created the single largest government organization ever created by any country, ever, in all of recorded human history?
that would be the Department of Homeland Security, created by and for Republican neoliberals, headed by George W Bush.
you're living a lie. historically, since 1980, it has bee the republican party that has spent the most money, increased the size of the government the most, and put the US most into deficit status. I could post links, but anybody with access to google can easily look this up. I know you won't though, because you DON'T WANT to know.
this is fact. A fact that you ignore because it would inconvenience your pathetic worldview.
even if we JUST look at social issues, it has always been the republican party that has spear-headed legislation trying to take rights AWAY from americans. women especially.
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@ehshandyman that's done now. those that weren't taken by the Russians for a potential prisoner exchange have escaped. I rather think Russia will not think it's worth it though, and some high level generals there are already calling for Russia to just execute them. Oddly, the one who accepted the prisoner exchange was... Putin. People forget that as much as the world hates Putin, it was his minister of defense that came up with the "genius" plan to invade Ukraine. Putin, politically, was in no position to attack him for doing so, and had every reason to go along. does that make him an evil muppet? yes, yes it does. but not exactly sure he's pulling all the strings himself here, nor can he at this point. the entire Russian government is pretty much being run by organized crime at this point, and has been for a long, long time.
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Trey in the comments:
" "You've been lied to, man.... Look at it. Examine the data.""
uh, sooooo much projection. this is likely EXACTLY what anyone with any sense told him, and all he does is just regurgitate it as if it doesn't apply to him.
Projection is nothing but a mental defense mechanism often used by those suffering from severe cognitive dissonance, or when used by con men, nothing but a paper thin logical fallacy only the dumbest of the dumb cannot see through.
short version:
he's wrong, makes up complete bullshit, doesn't know what the words: evolution, information, symbiosis, or entropy even mean.
it makes me want to kick you that you even suggest it here.
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@a-a-ron-ieyoutube7248 hey, if you REALLY want a libertarian paradise, move to Somalia! nothing at all stopping you from becoming Lord of the Flies there. Just make sure to bring a decent arsenal with you, and a lot of money for bribes, and to pay your private security force. ;P
seriously though, you're absolutely right about the real value of education, but I would shorten what you said to: Schools need to reinforce the value of creativity and critical thinking. the two skills everybody absolutely NEEDS to not just succeed, but to be a person that is the most valuable to any community. I would happily vote for anybody with JUST those two skills for POTUS. sadly, in my lifetime I have never seen those two skills in any US president. closest was Obama, but even he failed the critical thinking part when, like Biden, he thought he could actually work the middle ground. there hasn't been any middle ground worth working in the US since Nixon.
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"Thomas Notice that you said nothing to refute any of the observable, scientific, data which I presented."
because frankly, you didn't present any.
none.
instead, what you think is science is nothing more than unpublished rants on youtube videos, filled with ignorance, deliberate misinformation and outright lies.
now, if you want to talk science, we can start with the tens of thousands of articles published on evolutionary biology in various SCIENCE JOURNALS, like:
Trends in Evolution and Ecology
Journal of Evolutionary Biology
Journal of Molecular Evolution
Nature
Animal Behavior
Evolution and Development
Cell
Journal of Theoretical Biology
or hell, just pick ONE article you have actually read from any of those.
just... one.
I have already won, because not only do I already know you never have.
I know you never will.
science is done by scientists, and published in journals.
creationism is done by zealots, and published in youtube videos.
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“ 'Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives...'
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it. Suppose any party, in addition to whatever share it may possess of the ability of the community, has nearly the whole of its stupidity, that party must, by the law of its constitution, be the stupidest party; and I do not see why honorable gentlemen should see that position as at all offensive to them, for it ensures their being always an extremely powerful party . . . There is so much dense, solid force in sheer stupidity, that any body of able men with that force pressing behind them may ensure victory in many a struggle, and many a victory the Conservative party has gained through that power."
-John Stuart Mill, 1865
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"Wisely calling out the false division and seeking a Jungian balance"
I forget, was that before or after he brutally murdered his father?
certainly after he brutally murdered all the students at Luke's temple 'o training.
the folly of claiming that both good and evil are two sides of the same coin, is that evil laughs and slaughters your family and everything you hold dear while you contemplate.
it smacks of the kind of people who say really stupid shit like democrats and republicans are the same, or clinton and trump are the same.
if you think that, you are literally living a logical fallacy known as the argument to moderation, or the fallacy of the golden mean.
Jung was wrong about a great many things, and made up the rest. He's not taken seriously in academic psychology, and hasn't been for a long, long time. No, really. He never had a shred of evidence to support 99% of the things he espoused. I know, I read every book he ever wrote. All pretty stories, that's it.
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@henktl3580 "Just wonder if it was necessary to make it ad hominem"
if you watched the video, you can clearly see it was not an ad hom. his arguments were trashed, directly. do not mistake insult with ad hom.
you are not being an honest actor in this discussion.
"I think he's inconsequential"
then you do not understand the power of spreading misinformation on the internet. You have some learning to do, especially given your claims of being a behavioral scientist. Hey, go figure, I'm a behavioral ecologist and even I can see this.
as to the value of ridicule, since you are not going to be able to reason with someone who did not use reason to get to where they are to begin with, ridicule is a time honored strategy of manipulating public opinion. There is no way to get someone like Robataille to come back to the realm of reason and evidence, however, ridicule does work to help marginalize his voice.
if, as you say, you study behavior, surely you know enough sociology and psychology to know the power of ridicule.
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So, let me get this straight... If the internal fire control system is ruptured... there is no way to shut off the intake of water to the system? Well, there's your problem, as they say. such poor design of these ships and systems. so poor. Stop blaming the captain, when it is the systems he relied on that were terrible to begin with. Not just the fire control system, but the oil sump system, the way cargo is secured... all poorly designed due to cost cutting. You MUST blame the people who own the entire shipping system to begin with. From the ground up, these ships are designed soooo poorly, it is a wonder they haven't ALL sunk. put the blame where it belongs, as usual, with the people who make the most money: the owners. 99 times out of 100 in both naval and air accidents, it really is the fault of the people who own the systems to begin with, as they are inevitably corrupt, and have made decisions purely to maximize profit.
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I hate to tell you, but this kind of shady business practice is exactly how NVIDIA came to dominate the graphics card market to begin with. I have followed them from the very start, and the plan was ALWAYS to have cheaper, inferior hardware, and to try and compensate with their software and marketing.
and very clearly, it succeeded exactly as planned. they have ZERO reason to change this strategy. Thus, they will not. despite what people think of them online, despite all the warning videos. money talks, and that's all. same with Microsoft VS IBM. OS2 was a MUCH better, more stable OS than Windows ever was. but MS relied on pure marketing instead of quality... and it worked. like a charm. Stop pretending that anything you can say online will ever change the power of marketing. most people will simply never care, unfortunately.
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@Paddystinian82 "Iraq, Yugoslavia, Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq again, Libya and Syria have all been either destroyed or decimated by nato "
well, aside from the fact that Russia destroyed afghanistan before the US did, and then left the mess while the US actually spent 10 years trying to clean up after themselves, and that again, the US was removing a mistake they make in Libya when they initially supported Ghadafi, and it's the RUSSIANS that are currently killing citizens in Syria. Sure man, your BS sounds perfectly legit.
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