Comments by "Violet Joy" (@VioletJoy) on "ABC News"
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@nickie7874 I'm not sure where that idea came from besides being completely made up. Also, let's flesh that out. Because after over 20 years of severely abusing children, they got caught, that means everything is just peachy? That's a very simple way of looking at the situation. Those children were severely mistreated, tortured, neglected, starved, and manipulated, which leaves lifelong effects. There isn't a "happy ending" just because they got out. It's a huge relief that they finally got out, but that doesn't erase the years and years of torture they endured while "God" waited for just the right moment to miraculously show one of the children how to dial 9-1-1. I'm disgusted by this story and more disgusted that somehow God gets glory after allowing such horrors.
Of course, I don't believe God allowed horrors. I believe these parents have either a personality disorder or mental illness of some kind mixed with indoctrination of an extreme religion.
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@mollynoneofurbuisness3099 That sounds nice and I used to think the same way, until reality finally hit. If "God" is omnipotent, he could have created anything he wanted, including creating humans with free will (which is debatable in itself) but without the ability to harm others, or at the very least, without the ability to torture and/or kill children.
If a sane person could not stand to watch a child being tortured without stepping in to help, I'm not sure why God is given a pass. He could have alerted police after the couple only had one child, or maybe 10 years sooner or had a neighbor step in, but nope! One of the 13 children would finally muster up the courage to walk outside of her torture chamber to seek help on her own.
If there was a God and he watched all of that happen, then I don't want anything to do with that kind of sick, sadistic being.
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@PatOD75
1. I don't see where I took the bible out of context. Maybe you could state where you think that happened.
2. Just to clarify, I don't believe in the bible, but I'm very familiar with it because I was a believer for most of my life. I can point out principals, claims, and contradictions just like I could with anything else. If it's true, it should stand alone.
3. I'm not sure what was meant by "people like you are the worst". Maybe you could explain.
4. You can state that you believe there is a hell and there is sin and I can state that I am not convinced of such things. I can't help what I believe. I am no longer affected by the tradition I grew up in and no longer consider feelings as evidence. I sought out information and weighed the facts to come to the conclusions I have. What evidence do you have to back up your claims?
5. You mentioned that God knows our hearts and the killers (I don't think they were traffickers) wouldn't make it into heaven, but that's not necessarily what the bible says. The bible says people don't get to heaven by their behavior and there's only one way and that's through accepting Jesus. Well, if that killer accepted Jesus as his savior, he would go to heaven according to the bible. When Jesus said "depart from me", he was speaking of people relying on their good behavior, not people like these killers.
Also, unless Natalee specifically accepted Jesus, according to the bible, she would not go to heaven. Of course I don't believe that, but that's what it says. By the way, I didn't claim she didn't, this is just hypothetical. But you actually made a claim. Saying "the meek shall inherit the earth" is just using one scripture used out of context which contradicts others. How are you so certain that your claims are true, especially considering they don't line up with scripture?
P.S. Both scriptures you mentioned were taken out of context and do not apply in this situation.
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@pewpew7902 I didn't say I knew exactly what happened here, but I'm also not going to assume everything they said is exactly what went down. People seem to want to believe horror stories, when this type of thing is extremely rare, which is why it was on the news. I just find it extremely hard to believe. At the very most, it was due to one person's wrongdoing, which would cancel out the second appraisal.
First of all, comps aren't chosen according to demographics, they're chosen according to similarities. It wouldn't make sense for an appraiser to look in a "predominantly black neighborhood" for a comp. That just doesn't happen. Secondly, if the first appraiser was racist, then there would be no reason to "whiten" the house for a different appraiser.
It seems very apparent that the homeowners look for ways to be offended and I can't say that didn't play a part here, but I don't know. There isn't enough information shared in this interview to know one way or the other. I'm just saying it's highly unlikely that "whitening" their house had and affect at all. Their "experiment" shows nothing, as it's not how proper experiments are done. As doctors, they should know that.
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