Comments by "Solo Renegade" (@SoloRenegade) on "Garand Thumb"
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what purpose was this rifle designed to serve? Outside of the US military, few nations are using body armor, and the 5.56 is equally capable of penetrating body armor. Most soldiers can't shoot as accurate as the 5.56 can hit, let alone a more powerful rifle. Most soldiers already struggle to control recoil with the 5.56, let alone a more powerful rifle. Most soldiers struggle to hit past 200m even with a low recoil rifle like the 5.56 AR15/M4/M16 platform. Ammo is life. He who brings more ammo to the firefight wins, and this weapon brings Less ammo. This weapon has been tested and does not hold up to dirty conditions as well as the AR platform. It has more parts, more complexity, less reliability, and weighs more.
Again, what battlefield threats was this designed to contend with? In Ukraine they are using the AR platform just fine. The AR platform did great in OIF/OEF (for those who actually hit their targets and didn't lie and blame the rifle to cover up their lack of marksmanship skills).
The round is powerful, don't get me wrong. But what problem are we trying to solve here?
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@sungukyun2608 in some ways, yes. They had better camo in Iraq for one. ACU stood out like a sore thumb and looked like crap. Marine desert digital worked great. And the uniforms look great.
But the Army often equipped themselves with stuff from home, resulting in even better gear. People constantly mistook my unit for Special Forces. We were a top unit, used marine vehicles and uniforms, and had rare prototype equipment, as well as personally modified rifles. It always threw people for a loop, and we often times used that and pretended to be special forces to get people to leave us alone.
Most of the equipment/mods I used overseas are on my personal rifle now. We changed out the handguards, triggers, selector levers, charging handles, stocks, optics, pistol grips, mags, lights, slings, mag releases, and more. We'd return them to issue spec before turning them in. I came up with a durable and effective sling mount overseas I still use as my go-to, a solution I've never seen a single other person use to-date. It was fun getting the reactions we got overseas. Kept things interesting.
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@matthiuskoenig3378 "the M2 used to be worth it, but not anymore. its now in a negative goldilocks zone, it can't penetrate anything .338 can't penetrate that it actually faces on the battlefield, but doesn't have enough penetration compared to 30mm which can easily replace it on all vehicle mounts (due to 30mm RWS systems)."
this was not my combat experince with the M2. it penetrated things many weapons could not. We loved our M2, and nothing I see will replace it.
I couldn't help but notice how you completely skipped/ignored the 20mm's existence.
If you replace the M2 where it is used, such as tanks, aircraft, trucks, fixed defensive positions, etc. the RM338 is giving up tons of firepower. In WW2 the RAF had to mount 2-3x as many .30cal to cause as much damage as what 4-6x .50cal could dish out. And 6x .50cal were as good or better in certain cases than 4x 20mm.
Also, the Ohio REAPR is also 338 and lighter than an M240B, making the RM338.....OBSOLETE.
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