Comments by "Solo Renegade" (@SoloRenegade) on "Geoff Buys Cars"
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@mikebreen2890 "We don't actually need a huge amount more electricity, that's the bottom line. "
I want evidence to back up this childishly naive claim.
solar isn't cheap energy. Solar isn't even viable where I live. I'd have to cover every square inch of my land in solar to even convert my house from gas to electric furnace. I'd have no lawn, no trees, the house and sidewalk/driveway would all have to be completely shaded out. And then I'd still have to cut down all my neigbhor's trees to prevent them from casting shadows on my solar panels. And all of that would cost more than my house is worth.
My coworker has a VW EV, and he's installing some solar of his house, and it costs 40k, and wont power his house, only part of it. I can pay my current annual electric and gas utilities bill for 44yrs for that much money.
a single EV car is like adding an entire new house to the grid. if you calculate the total miles driven by all cars in the US each year, and convert that into kW hours needed of energy for EVs to travel that far, and that is how much additional grid energy we need. and to provide that much energy to the grid requires a band new power plant (either nuclear, coal, oil, or gas powered) every single week for 30 yrs to add that much additional electric capacity to the US grid.
Electricity isn't free nor magically produced.
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@mikebreen2890 ICE are larger fire hazard? When ICE start on fire, they are quickly and easily put out. they don't burn as hot as EV. slight damage to ICE cars doesn't render them a hazard going forward. A slight ding to an EV might have damaged the battery, and you cannot afford to tear it apart to inspect the whole battery to find out, so now it's a potential ticking timebomb. Insurance companies are totaling EVs for this reason in crashes.
I can drive further and faster in an ICE car. I can get 600-800mils of range on a tank in my car at 75mph, and fill up takes 5min. My airplanes get even better gas mileage than my cars, and fly even faster and further too, and fill up is about 15min.
EVs would add HOURS of charging to any trip, and many places I go, you couldn't follow becasue there is NO charging. You can only go where there is adequate charging, and many places are so remote you lack the range to get there and back.
And I bought my last 2 cars and my last 2 airplanes for less than the price of a Tesla. My first car was a small pickup that got 27mpg in town and survived 2 major car accidents before I owned it, hit numerous deer as well and still got used by 3 more owners after I sold it. One car I paid $2k for and it gets 36mpg, had that for many years. then bought another for $8k at 25k miles on it and it gets 44mpg and have had that one a decade now already and it's still in perfect shape and get 800mi range. My 1960s airplane cost $18k and gets similar mileage and I can get anywhere 2x as fast as a car with it. Will your EV still be around in 60yrs like my airplane, or will it be in a garbage dump?
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@Blackmamba12345 I've only ever had to replace a water pump on one vehicle, and that model had a known water pump issue. never had to replace on on any other vehicle, EVER.
never once replaced an exhaust.
dpf? what is that? egr? never heard of it.
what does a cambelt do exactly? pretty sure none of my cars have one.
brakes and tires are on EVs too, and tires wear out faster on EVs.
"Electric cars only require tyres, wiper blades and brakes that’s it."
I already said that in my earlier response, you didn't read it. you also have gearbox oil, battery coolant, wiper fluid, ball joints, tie rods, shocks and struts, drive axles from the gearbox to the wheels, front end alignments, tire rotations and balancing, risk of water damage and corrosion, headlights, blinkers, taillights, trunk lights, door locks, window mechanisms, software updates, etc.
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@Blackmamba12345 "Well you have all of what you mentioned on an ICE vehicle and more."
More? possibly. my car is 20yrs old and has had only minor things. Aside from oil changes, wipers, wiper fluid, tires, I've only had to replace a few light bulbs (EVs have all of those too other than oil), shocks and struts that I replaced myself for the cost of parts and 2hrs of my time (EVs have those too), and repaired a crack in the bumper from hitting a small animal (can happen to Vs too). I've also replaced the battery once (very cheap and easy) and the air filter (also very cheap and easy).
So what else do you speak of that ICE cars have to deal with? Show me a 20yr old EV that still gets 800miles of range at 47mpg and can completely top off in only 5min. My car doesn't require expensive charger installed in my home, and I can visit family in the middle of nowhere where chargers don't exist. and I can make the 3hr drive (one way) to their place and back on a single tank of gas. Try doing that in an EV without the ability to recharge. Also, I live where it gets cold in winter and range is heavily impacted with EVs, and solar isn't viable here due to the latitude and perpetual clouds. We are also not in a good place for reliable wind energy. we have no large wind farms in my state, there are a few turbines scattered about, never more than one or two in the same place, and few new ones have been built in recent decades. We have hydro, but nothing big enough to power even a single city without EVs by itself.
No, ICE is superior for now, and likely for the next few decades at least. even car manufacturers and insurance companies and dealerships are disliking EVs. Current ICE cars like mine are far more environmentally friendly overall than any current EV when you look at cradle to grave impacts.
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@Blackmamba12345 "They need countless spare parts / servicing, to say your car has only needed what you have said is quite uncommon these days. "
not at all. you only have to fix things constantly if you break them, abuse them, etc. I don't beat up my crap. I never buy warranties or insurance for anything, including electronics, appliance, lawn equipment, etc. Because when I buy something I take care fo it, and my stuff always lasts 3x longer than the warranty/insurance before it needs any care anyways. And often times it's something I can easily and cheaply fix myself anyways. Stop beating up crap you onw and start taking proper care of it and it would last longer.
"This includes lots of issues with DPF (Diesel Particulate Filters), EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation), clutch replacement, dual mass flywheels replacement, DSG gearbox servicing if they use a DSG, "
Literally NONE of that applies to the average car owner. you're just inventing problems to complain about.
"as well as more traditional wear and tear on suspension components, brakes, tyres, exhausts, as well as electronic issues that they have to serviced if creating issues. "
EVs have FAR more electronics to deal with, and far more likely to have an electronics issue as a result. that's simple math.
EVs actually wear out their tires and suspension faster than ICE as thy are much heavier than their ICE counterparts. And ICE cars also get still lighter as they burn fuel, unlike an EV.
Exhausts almost never wear out, and easy to repair if they do.
Again, spreading lies.
"Your car either hasn't done many miles or you are lying about the servicing which has been carried out or will need to be carried out in the future."
I've only had one car not make it past 300k miles so far, and it made it to 285k before blowing a head gasket (known issue with that engine somewhere between 250-300k). I could have put a new engine in it for $3k at the time, and regret not doing so as the rest of the car was in great shape. and it would have been worth the $3k to replace the engine.
You're now making baseless false assertions without any evidence to base those claims upon. relying on insults rather than facts.
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@rickmoz "do they really? Or is that just a few videos / articles you see online…"
yes, and it's not just articles, its the actual dealership auctions and dealership lots where it's happening most.
"and personally I don’t really care. "
so even when I prove you wrong, you've already declared you wont listen. your pride, stubbornness, and cult beliefs is more important to you than the truth.
"Got my PCP and after four years I’ll swap"
I've never owned an ICE car for less than 7yrs. and I've paid a grand total of $10k for ALL the ICE cars I've ever owned in my life. and the worst one got 27mpg in town, and the best has gotten as high as 47mpg in town.
But you prefer to take the consumerist approach which is FAR worse for the environment. Your EV requires rare earth elements that cause harm by themselves, then buy and sell so often and the used car gets junked because no one wants it rather than reused for 20-30yrs like ICE cars. if you do the math ICE cars actually cause less total emissions cradle to grave than an EV. Mining, manufacturing, energy to operate, repair, lifespan, and recycling.
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@franciscoshi1968 "if people can't afford a standard plug at home they must be so poor they wouldn't be able to afford to pay for petrol. "
wrong. shows how out of touch you are. Also, that is "Cherry Picking". A standard 120V plug wont recharge an EV.
Many older homes, such as mine, have no ability to install an EV charger. to do so would require me hiring an electrician to completely redo my entire electrical panel and run new lines where none exist. It's not cheap, in addition to teh cost of the charger itself. And many others doesn't even own their house, nor have a garage to even park in. you pay as you go with fuel, but need to pay upfront for EV and solar stuff.
"Cars are being written off for very little damage. No just EVs. Plenty of ICE cars with very light damage are also being written off."
My first car was a Ford Ranger decades ago, by the time I got it it had already been in 2 major car accidents, one in which the front end was smashed in. we straightened it out well enough, and I drove it for many years, and it got 27mpg. Then I sold it after doing almost no maintenance besides oil, brakes, tires, wipers, and a battery. it had 3 more owners after me. can't do that with an EV.
"The difference with EVs is that there is lots of FUD being spread as with this video. For the battery to be damaged enough in a crash to be a problem the car would be unrepairble."
yes and no. otherwise repairable damage could damage the battery enough to cause a fire. but unrepairable damage would still total the car even if the battery managed to survive undamaged. The problem is, they don't know which cars have their batteries damaged and which do not. if even a SINGLE cell in the entire EV is damaged just barely enough to cause an issue, it becomes a fire hazard. And there is no cost effective way to find out. Thus making the car a complete gamble and too high risk for insurance companies and used car dealerships and even mechanics shops.
"The battery is inside of the survival cell. If the battery gets damaged the survival cell would also be damaged."
yes, but the damage may be hard to spot or detect. I'm saying this as a Mechanical Engineer that deals with high voltage systems every day. electronics can be damaged much more easily that structure.
"That would make any car including ICE cars unrepairble and ICE cars with flood damage can not be repaired either. Anything with flood damage is an instant write off."
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"All this FUD is doing is making idiots loose money for really simple mistakes. Some one got an EV for $1k because it wouldn't charge. They thought the battery needed replacing and all it needed was a 12v battery. I am really upset that some one beat me to it. That was a $20k mistake from someone who believed the FUD."
but that happens all the time. and do keep you eyes out for those deals. My uncle bought a Chevy S10 at auction that no on wanted for $100. they started it and it immediately made a noise. From experience, he knew exactly what the issue was, and so he bought it. He got a perfect condition S10 with no rust, perfect engine, everything, because of a $10 part that needed replacing. He fixed it on the way home that day by stopping at a parts store and fixing it in the parking lot.
The major issue people have with EVs is that there are VERY REAL issues (lack of infrastructure, lack of grid energy, fire hazards, lack of in-home chargers, high purchase cost, lack of long-term used car market, etc.). And worse than that, they are being FORCED to buy EVs against their will by communists and socialists. And many of us are willing to start a war to stop socialism and communism in this country.
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