Comments by "Solo Renegade" (@SoloRenegade) on "Forgotten Weapons"
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US doesn't have to simplify since we have the 2A and US citizens can just bring their own gear. We did it in OIF and OEF. We brought our own gear and modified our M16/M4 rifles heavily, and just returned them to issued state before turning them back in. Most guys I fought overseas with were better armed/equipped at home than in the Army.
We swapped grips, handguards, mags, triggers, selectors, mag releases, bolt catches, buttstocks, slings, sling mounts, optics, bipods, lights, and more.
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@johnswoboda9809 "using the examples you've given, none of those firearms meet the criteria for an "assault rifle" as Ian defined it though."
Proving my whole point.
"The 10/22 yes can be made to operate as a select fire weapon although that is not a stock option from Ruger. "
nor does armalite sell select fire AR15, yet tons of select fire AR15 exist today none the less. Who manufactured it is not part of the definition. Do try to keep up.
" Also, the 10/22 was designed to be used as a sporting arm for small game and as an affordable, reliable, all-around farm/truck/camp etc gun. It was not designed for military use. "
use intent is ALSO Not part of the definition. INTENT doesn't apply, and you damned well know that. stop making up lame excuses. you're like a wok feminist, trying to justify her actions.
"Some states DO include the 10/22 under State level bans."
further proving me right, that the "definition" is arbitrary and not valid.
"It should also be noted that even though that even the original AR-10 design, in 7.62x51 NATO, is also not an assault rifle because of that full power cartridge. "
.308 is an intermediate cartridge. If you don't beleive me compare its size and effective range to teh .30-06, .338, .50, .416, .300, 7mm, and more. The fact you can't even identify an intermediate cartridge further proves the definition is ARBITRAY and invalid.
The rest of your comment just further validates that I am right. The defintion is invalid, subjective, arbitrary, and nobody can agree what is what, and we can also point to weapons that are not assault rifles yet have all teh definition features, and rifles that are LITERALLY assault rifles, yet aren't considered assault rifles. And if lethality is what they are seeking to control, then an assault rifle limitaion that doesn't apply to large caliber rifles is BS nonsense and proves the defintion is invalid and has nothing to do with safety or anything else.
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@johnswoboda9809 No, I just felt like insulting you for your attitude, regardless of my argument.
" I was saying to try (and fail) to generate some sort of support for your position when you're comparing apples to oranges."
yes, you did fail, and no I wasn't comparing apples to oranges.
"You went on this bizarre tangent that compared .22LR to .338 Federal"
no I didn't, I never said anything of the sort liar. 1st, quote me where you claim I did. 2nd, I never said anything about .338 Federal even once, until just now.
.308, .338, .30-06, and more ARE considered intermediate cartridges. Do some research. Here is a quote,
"An intermediate cartridge is a rifle/carbine cartridge that has significantly greater power than a pistol cartridge but still has a reduced muzzle energy compared to fully powered cartridges (such as the .303 British, 7.62×54mmR, 7.65×53mm Mauser, 7.92×57mm Mauser, 7.7×58mm Arisaka, .30-06 Springfield, or 7.62×51mm NATO), and therefore is regarded as being "intermediate" between traditional rifle and handgun cartridges."
So stop making up your own irrelevant opinions on things. your opinion carries zero weight in court of law.
"and the fact that it's the parent cartridge to the .338 Federal that you yourself argued shouldn't be an "assault rifle" chambering in a hypothetical select-fire AR-10"
no, I'm proving that YOUR BS claims means no AR10 can be an assault rifle, even though that will never hold up in court. Again, I never once mentioned .338 Federal in any of my previoous comments. stop lying.
"You're just not making sense and above all you're missing my primary point in my initial response, which was that I was congratulating Ian on addressing a very touchy subject both within and without the shooting community without getting into the political more."
Just becasue you're too dumb to understand the logic, doesn't mean I'm not making sense, you're just not smart enough to follow the logic. Ian was WRONG, his claimed definition of assault rifle is invalid, no matter if I agree with it or disagree with it. If I agree with it, it doesn't include many very real assault rifle type weapons many which are in active military service. If I disagree with it, then we can't agree on an actual objective definition that properly describes all "assault rifles". You have to add too many qualifiers that then applies to non-assault rifles.
do try to keep up.
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@johnswoboda9809 "Congress can pass a federal law that expands or limits the governments authority. In the case of the ATF, Congress conferred on the executive branch the ability to enforce federal firearms regulations. "
that's not true, at least one was made, just not as common. the point was that larger caliber AR10s of many calibers exist.
But go ahead, keep cherry picking and see how that works out for you.
"It IS available in .338 Federal, but as far as I've found, only in semi auto."
and all you have to do is swap out the selector lever and ad a part or two and it's converted. Or you could just run full auto with even less effort. Fact is, the M110 exists, and the SCAR, and others like it. And now we have the new Reaper from Ohio Ordnance.
"Insofar as your "I decided to argue with you because of your attitude" comment lol well buddy, congratulations, you've lowered yourself to the level of my ex-wife and her "I'm the victim! "
you're an idiot. the only one acting like a victim here is you. you whine and complain, cherry pick like a woke Democrat. You love making invalid comparisons.
"Everybody else is the jerk! You're wrong because I want everybody to see me as the victim!""
Oh no, I'm definitely being a jerk to you. If you want to be an a$$hole, I have no problem treating you like one. but this childish false accusation of me being a victim is you projecting your insecurities onto me. you're the one playing victim, and so you accuse me fo it.
"Everybody else is the jerk! You're wrong because I want everybody to see me as the victim!""
I know, but I like doing it for entertainment anyways. I love watching you idiots thrash around unable to engage in factual and logical debates. And it helps me to understand idiots like you.
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@emberfist8347 No goalposts were moved. you claimed the "definition" to not be arbitrary, now you must prove it. You used terms in your defintiion that are also equally subjective and arbitrary.
"I got the definition from the literal mechanical definition of Assault Rifle starting with the original Sturmgewher which fired a 7.92x33mm Kurz cartridge."
so, what is that definition, word for word, and what dictionary can I find it in?
" If you don’t know what a full power rifle round is you need to watch the video again as Ian explains."
because there is no such thing, and no such objective nonarbitrary definition exists, otherwise you could cite it.
"If you can’t figure out if a round is a pistol round, you need to really to start doing more research as it is self-explanatory."
"it is what it is", is not a valid argument nor a valid definition.
So, you have failed to provide a citable source for your definitions, and you have more importantly failed to provide a valid nonarbitrary definition for any of the critical criteria you cling to.
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