Comments by "" (@walperstyle) on "Do You Actually Understand What 'Socialism' Is?" video.

  1. Getting angry at each other is pointless. Watch the documentary by Wired Magazine "future cities shenzhen". Even the communist party of China has opened up to free market Capitalism... perhaps America should do the same instead of suing each other.
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  2. This is why government needs to be bottom up. If people want to be socialists and give up things, they can go to cities (detroit) and try it all they want. Forcing policy across the entire nation is abusive to cultures and different groups of people. Its a form of bullying, even if 51% want it.
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  3. Note: Social contracts are also abusive. Just ask women in several middle east nations.
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  4. SchyDu Please go to those countries you mentioned. I have been to a couple. Ask yourself how easy it is for you to be a job provider, and how easy it is for you to own a house.
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  5. Anarcho Platonist You wish to take people's rights away to be job providers and give that control to whom?
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  6. Yes, there will always be jobs, and they will shut down in privileged America and go to nations that are happy to work harder for less. You want to talk about the 1%... I suppose Nigeria is entitled to your paycheck, seeing as you are the 1% of the world.
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  7. Taxes and Wages drive up the cost for you and I to be job providers. I highly suggest you try to be a job provider. As for controlling the means of production; Lets say you are a scientist working in a Lab for a company. Do you really want the 18 year old janitor or intern deciding the direction of the company with their limited and low skill?
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  8. Let me just say it again. If that 18 year old gets to determine his working conditions, someone like me, a 35 year old will gladly come along and do a better job as the conditions already are... where are my rights to do so? Why should the costs of the company revolve around that employee when others out there like me will not be lame or lazy?
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  9. I still don't get why you would be against job providers. This socialist rhetoric is about creating a lot of jobs, and no real change. Your utopia forgets that human nature will have bad people, and sometimes those bad people lead the nation. They will absolutely exploit a socialist government easier because socialist governments have more control via laws and taxes.... that is why the worst dictatorships spawned from socialism.
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  10. Sounds like you are a low skill worker that wants to be the boss, and needs society to revolve around you. You try the sales pitch of giving decision making to people that have no skills. Personally, I think engineers should have more of a say than janitors.
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  11. Just stop voting for governments that make it harder for me to be a job provider, thanks.
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  12. Anarcho Platonist Yet your communist buddies in China made economic free zones like Shenzhen, with no minimum wage, and freer trade. ....and they are flourishing. Even the Communists are open to Free Market Capitalism because they don't want their public to starve. When are people going to learn?
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  13. Holy crap, I don't want low skill workers having a say in the direction of the company. They are not smart enough. In free market capitalism, if they have hurt feelings, they can quit and do a better job with their friends...
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  14. They do have a say, often the high skilled workers are part of the Research and Development team, and directly report to the board of directors. I sure did.
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  15. ...and my company gave me a company truck and gas card.
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  16. Zeno Mammal No, I voluntary work for said company, and they pay me well. If they didn't, I would just go elsewhere. I don't want low skill workers destroying a company because they are not smart enough.
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  17. How about I come over to your place, take 50% of your paycheck and pave your neighbours driveway... that is what government does, that is socialist policy. Forced equality isn't charity. It removes rights, and uses the threat of force, if not force itself.... you guys are socialist enough already.
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  18. I think you don't understand that 'value' is subject to the individual, and I believe that individual, (if they feel oppressed) should have no regulations, no taxes, and no roadblocks to start their own company if they feel they can do a better job. #Libertarian   #Freedom  AKA, lose the entitlement, but gain work ethic and build a better tomorrow
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  19. Look, this might be hard for you to understand, but I don't sell myself short. I work harder than others for less because I care about every job I do. I also am not stupid. I realize that there is people all over the globe that would gladly do my job for 10% of what I do, and that the more we tax and regulate jobs here, the more likely that I will be fired, and those jobs will spring up over there. Again, lose the entitlement. I will absolutely work harder than you, and its not selling myself short, its making coin. Because of this mindset, I own a 5 bedroom house, 5 vehicles, and have a half million in assets. Frankly, I waste too much time trying to tell others how to not suck.
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  20. Strange though, because they keep on giving me bonuses. See, the thing is, companies deserve the right to get rid of dead weight, and bad employees that simpley don't put out as much as others. Good leaders also should realize that they too are replaceable, same with the entire company. Back in the old days of Capitalism (before it became socialist corporatism), If a company sucked, the workers would leave and start a better company, and the old dinosaur and its bad leadership would die with it while the good one remained. Now, becuase of regulations, its impossible to have the workers start that necessary competition. So, when people say the US is already socialist, I agree! That is why you have monopolies dying, and need to be bailed out. That is why shitty workers get more money for producing less. That is why people are fleeing with their money away from the US, instead of investing in it. Trump, Clinton, Bush, Obama... it matters not, the system itself promotes retardation. Just get out of the way of my right to work, and work harder than you. Simply put, you suck.
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  21. Right, but because I am friends with my company and I do good work, I will probably be able to retire by 45 years old. (in 10 years)
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  22. ...I literally have Lamborghini money right now, but the wife would kill me if I bought one.
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  23. So what if they are? Profit isn't bad. Profit allows a company to 1) pay workers more 2) save money for when market conditions change and business slows down, so they can pay their workers. 3) invest in better equipment for the workers 4) invest more in Research and Development 5) offer retirement plans or healthcare packages for employees 6) buy up old dinosaur companies that are failing 7) invest in new product lines 8) offer other perks like what I get. Company truck, gas card, move vacation pay, gym memberships, etc. Or... lets say the very worst is happening. Lets say they pay the CEO 1,000,000/year IF the CEO is going out and buying a boat, motorcycle, and eating at fancy restaurants...she's employing people. If she's buying a 3rd vacation home, there is plumbers, electricians, carpenters and others employed to build that vacation home. Remember... Money is not the problem, it is how you get the money. If the money is coming from extorted tax dollars, that is a form of corruption. Corruption breeds in socialism because it gives the government more money and more decision making. Why would you take those decisions away from your public? Horrible in my opinion. Only a greedy person would want to take away from others based on the notion they have a better idea of what 'fair' means than someone else. That, my friend, is why you need to lose the entitlement attitude. Its oppressive, especially if you vote with that attitude. You welcome using force against others, and that is wrong. I am friends with the people I work with, because I choose to be. As they make more money from gaining customers, so do I. That is a great friendship to have.
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  24. It was socialism that starved millions of people. Forced class structure, where as in a Capitalist society, people like me, voluntary work in exchange for money, and we are accountable to our customers.... your opinion on the matter simply doesn't matter. Why? Because you have a sense of entitlement. I will, and always will, do your job for less, and be happy doing it. I highly suggest you stop trying to tear down society so it revolves and rewards for producing less. It is Capitalism that allows people with nothing to become something great. Free market capitalism doesn't exist, corporatism does... this is why I'm a Libertarian because I want Poor Gay Married couples to protect their pot plants with guns and sell to whoever they fell like Thanks.
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  25. It matters not what I want? That is great until the people democratically elected you out of a job.... Stop putting human rights at risk by the mob of idiots.
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  26. Really?  Take a look at 'anti bullying' legislation sometime.  Because you are seeing places being democratically elected out of free speech. Edit:  actually read the legislation and ask yourself how long before the government itself deems itself a victim of a hate crime, and presses charges with those that don't agree with them.  
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  27. Immigrants, or illegal immigrants started those businesses?
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  28. It isn't slavery if you come to a mutual benefit with your clients.    Why is it the people that advocate for socialism are 1) the Elite, or 2) people that produce nothing
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  29. Capitalism is literally owning your labour and having the option to sell it to whoever you want, if they are willing to buy it. AKA, if you suck, nobody wants your shit, so stop forcing others to give you things to make up for your lack of skill.
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  30. To liberate one from expropriation, one embraces liberty. IE, the voluntary exchange between their fellow man, via capitalism. No other person should hold the right to their labour, and the customer determines if they are worthy of buying from.
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  31. I give the Anarcho Platonist credit, he's the most educated wrong person I've talked to in a long time.
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  32. Thief and oppressive to others.
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  33. Justified to who? by who?
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  34. Saying some theft is justified is oppressive. You and I don't determine who gets to steal from who. Theft is theft. Please obey the NAP.
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  35. People are going away from Mcdonalds, without the hand of glorious government.
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  36. With less taxes, and less regulations more poor people are able to rise up and be job providers, let alone low skill workers. I cringe every time I hear government say "We are creating jobs".
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  37. Profit allows a company to 1) invest in a safer work setting 2) invest in healthcare and life insurance options via 'group buy' methods 3) pay better wages or offer a bonus 4) offer company vehicles and gas cards 5) invest in research and development to make a superior and healthier product for society 6) buy up old dinosaur companies that suck or have failed completely 7) create new product lines 8) sustain a company when markets change, or people are not buying your product (gives you a chance to change and modify the direction of the company to suit the customer) Your idea of freedom still seems to blanket judge people as slaves. Slaves don't 'volunteer' openly to work.
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  38. Yeah if you feel 'used', get out of the way and let someone else more grateful to have that job.
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  39. Many factories shut down because the Union priced themselves out of work. That is the worst kind of democracy in the world... a bunch of low skill people voting for more than what they put out to society.
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  40. Lets not forget that once these 'protected' companies get too big, the government then steals our money to bail them out. This is where they call 'corruption', 'infrastructure' in the media.
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  41. I know. I was just saying they bottle it up like a good thing in the eye of the Media. Its corruption in its purest form.
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  42. The government is the reason why the US auto industry sucks. They made so many bogus regulations that killed any chance of competition. Note: Elon Musk made his millions on an unregulated internet. Guess what the government is trying to do now? REGULATE THE INTERNET. The entire Craft Beer industry spawned out of de-regulation in the 70's. We need that thinking in ALL industry. Put power back to the people. Let them be the job providers.
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  43. The reason you don't understand it is because you believe socialism will magically happen without government. As if everyone is going to volunteer and vote and be OK with being bullied by the mob. They never are. Some people will always disagree. That is why socialism always leads to government administering the 'democracy'. What ever could go wrong?! Read history.
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  44. One regulation that is destructive: Anti-Bullying legislation (maybe you have not seen it in your area yet, but you will). Government uses this feel good measure but actually can use it against people that disagree with them. Have opinions against political parties? TOO BAD, because now you are a bully and can be charged for speaking out against them. Its happening in Canada.
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  45. Right and wrong isn't dictated by democratic bullying. If that was the case, homosexuals would have been rounded up and ousted in your socialist society. The majority of the culture would not be ok with it, and they would simply vote them out. Your socialism is flawed because it always requires govenrment to administer. It always requires bullying.
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  46. "how you can know this is beyond me" Even today, in a primary christian culture, I'd bet you money if put to a referendum ( a democratic vote) that homosexuality would lose. That is bullying no? I suppose women's rights in Saudi Arabia would probably not work out either through your social democracy. Morality stems from individual rights not society's opinion.
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  47. Again, Morality stems from individuals, not societies current opinion.
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  48. You don't get a special moral privilege? Oh, so like your right to talking to us right now?
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  49. Your ideology requires use of force against people, even though you pretend it doesn't.
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  50. Exactly^ It requires force. So what happens is people don't want to do it themselves, because they are lazy, so they elect a government to do it for them and BAM, we have the Great Leap Forward and millions starve.
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  51. I'd rather have people have the ability to create a better product for less instead of be part of a circle jerk collective, but as I said before. Bottom up government works best, let communities decide what they want to do so long as they are not forcing others to be apart of their scams. People will always be different, no amount of bullying would change that.
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  52. We are not not poor at critical thinking, we just understand human nature. I'm just waiting until you join one of those hate groups of activists that will start to sabotage people that disagree with you. The Libertarian method however is the opposite.... I want you to have your utopia, just don't force it on the rest of us that will work twice as hard as you and get more of a return out of it.
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  53. Can you imagine the failure of companies that hand over rights to uneducated entitled workers.... lol, that would suck!
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  54. ORLY "While the Mondragon cooperatives have been successful in terms of business objectives, they are not exactly harbingers of a classless society. Despite the fact that everybody is an “owner”, the blue-collar workers on the assembly line do not feel that they have that much of a stake in the company. Kasmir conducted poll of workers at Mayc, a private company in Mondragon, and at Fagor Clima, a co-op of comparable size that turned out similar products. In answer to the question “In your job, do you feel that you are working as if the firm is yours?”, manual workers at Mayc replied 75 percent in the negative as opposed to 78 percent at Fagor. When asked whether they felt “part of the firm”, 33 percent of the Mayc manual workers said no but Fagor workers were even more alienated. Fully half said they did not. Meanwhile, those in more skilled or management positions tended to be happier in both places." and "By 2001, many workers at Mondragon were not even on a par with the 50 percent of manual workers who told Sharryn Kasmir that they did not feel “part of the firm”. I am referring to the largely foreign contract workers who are not even part of the collective ownership. The October 23, 2001 Guardian reported: Under Mr Cancelo’s guidance the MCC [Mondragon Cooperative Corporation] members have learned to think like the shareholders of any other global business. In order to protect their own jobs from fluctuations in demand, 20% of the workforce are on part-time or short-term contracts and can easily be shed. Like all the co-op’s foreign employees and most Spanish workers outside the Basque country, the 148 staff at Maier UK – a Lichfield car parts company that MCC bought earlier this year – are not co-op members." NOTEWORTHY: The Subsidiaries of Your glorious Co-OP have been bailed out. AKA, they created sub-corps to protect the main corporation. This isn't anything what I like, agree with, or even show how well coops work. EIther way I'll say it again because you were not listning: I want Capitalism, not Corporatism. I don't care if people want to form unions or coops, so long as they don't force government law to protect their monopoly over entire markets. IE, if you suck, you shouldn't be propped up and bailed out.
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  55. Now... How about you interview some of the workers that got thrown under the bus, instead of listening to the sales people.
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  56. Well look, tell your boss that I will work your job for less, and you can enjoy your sense of entitlement elsewhere. Don't like the job, go start your own company. I always looked at every job or contract I did as a way to build capital and learn something so I could become independant. Now that I have about a half million in assets, I'm almost there. Don't bring your socialism here to tell me that I can't be a job provider because you think every shitty no-talent worker is worth more. They are not. Get skills, become something.
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  57. Your boss doesn't take it, the government does. You are open to negotiate with your boss, or create a better company if you wish.
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  58. I allow my boss to take my labour, not my money. It is by choice. If I don't like it, in a free world, I start a better company and work for myself, or hire on staff that wants to work for me. Again, voluntary action. Taxation isn't voluntary at all. It is theft. Just because some democratically think they can bully others to pay by voting in a government who sends people to your house with guns if you don't pay, is not somehow morally superior. You can keep stomping your feet, but you are not winning here. Rights and Freedoms prevail over theft and ignorance.
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  59. In a free society, anyone can be self employed if they feel like it. Sometimes you have to realize when you are a low skill worker, so you can build the finances to do your own thing. Stop taking that power away from people, stop taking that right away from the customer, stop being against volunteerism.
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  60. It naturally changed. Watch 'Hidden Influence: The Rise of Collectivism'
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  61. Did anyone watch the documentary? Socialism is a means of control and the Oligarchy is wanting it in America so it can control through government regulation.
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  62. I don't want employees owning a company unless they purchase shares, through voluntary force. When you have the dumbest employees taking away from the Research and Development teams ability to create new avenues, also, taking away their profit to play with to usher in a greater future for everyone, that creates stagnation. This is why socialism always fails, in every country it has been in. America is almost there, keep pushing for socialism and see your jobs disappear completely.
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  63. The employer is the state, and it can happen.... but often it sucks so bad because no change ever happens in that job setting that technology becomes stagnant.
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  64. I wouldn't use state 'capitalism' as a word, I'd use State-Controlled. Capitalism is voluntary exchange.
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  65. It isn't state capitalism, that is socialism. It is what china did in its Great Leap Forward. I admire your attempt to reclassify things how you see fit. When the state controls the means of production, there is no voluntary exchange. Therefore, not capitalism.
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  66. Capitalism is the voluntary exchange between people. When the government is the only person that holds the production, there is no voluntary exchange, it is force. Don't confuse capitalism with corporatism. And no country was ever successfully communist.
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  67. "Except you need to exchange money for food, and your labour for money. Thus, it is not voluntary to me." In a free market capitalist society, you would legally be allowed to work for beer, sex, housing, or even adapt the worst collectivist thinking you want, as long as it doesn't force others to obey by your thinking. It is the government that created the minimum wage, the labour laws, the conditions to allow unions to bully employees right out of work, the corporations to form and hide money.... Do you understand the difference between corporatism and Capitalism yet?
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  68. In free market capitalism, corporations don't exist. Corporations came about because of government intervention in the business sector. They were 'allowed tax havens'. (hence why corporate tax is lower) Again, this is just another form of government control. In free market capitalism, everyone pays the same equal flat tax (ideally low, to promote business growth) and trade isn't dictated to by government. Please understand the difference between corporations and capitalism, they are very different.
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  69. Every company ( sole proprietorship, co-op, and corporation) has a goal of having no restrictions and controlling the market. Only glorious government and its regulations, tax schemes, and trade tariffs can protect the monopolies. Example: Auto industry. They put the price so high of building a car that it made it impossible for talented workers in detroit to separate and start their own car company. In a free market capitalist society, it would have been encouraged for those workers to create something better, with no expensive restrictions or government intervention, so that way people could keep working. Instead, in corporate (not capitalist) america, the government extorts tax money away from everyone to bail out the bad corporations. Please understand the difference between Corporatism and Capitalism. Capitalism allows you to be a job provider, easier.
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  70. As for 'technological, scientific, and social developments', in a capitalist society (not corporatist with glorious government controlling everyone), those people that work in those fields have more money to create change, instead of give the money to the government, who funds only a small select few via corruption.
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  71. No, you developed corporatism from governments that had no spine to uphold the constitution and bill of rights.
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  72. I'm guessing you never read any books outside of what was prescribed from your teachers?
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  73. So wait, are you now supporting corporations?
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  74. Capitalism run by the state isn't capitalism. No matter what Robert Reich (the communist) says about it.
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  75. You've never heard of who I'm talking about because you have a jaded single side view about what you are talking about. Capitalism is supposed to have no government involvement, what so ever. That is why America used to be awesome.
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  76. Somalia isn't capitalism, and it certainly isn't Libertarian, its small fractional oppressive government warlords oppressing others when they feel the need to. You don't understand that capitalism has nothing to do with government. When it does, its not capitalism anymore. Capitalism is the voluntary trade between people, without infringement of a 3rd party and their force.
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  77. Collectivism doesn't need to be coerced? HA, HAHAHAHAH. This was just discussed in Tom Woods last discussion.
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  78. Subscribe to Tom Woods, and he'll bring up points from the best socialists.
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  79. All of this has been answered by Tom Woods.
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