Comments by "Curious Crow" (@CuriousCrow-mp4cx) on "a discussion on a failed brexit is not undemocratic" video.
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That simply is not the case. There is no such thing as can't. No Parliament can be bound by it's predecessor. And if a future government is given the mandate to become a full member of the EU in the future, so be it. And frankly, it's more likely than not, because WTO lite, which we have now is not working for us. And there are sound, realistic reasons why it isn't. If you think that Brexit would give us control in the sense you mean, you are sorely mistaken. Of it was all about control, ask yourself this question: why was Johnson's negotiation with the United States for a trade deal made a state secret? That is, the Public were excluded from knowing the details. Why? How can we the public have control over something we are prevented from knowing about? Because we could only find out after it was signed and a done deal where we would have had no say at all. You talk of control, but you don't understand the realities of control. Size and economic gravity, as being able to influence the economies we do deals with matters. Call it clout. And who do you think has more clout between the EU, the US, and the UK? It certainly isn't us, simply because our economy is smaller, and we are, by necessity, a net importer of goods. So who needs who more? Why were we having to send people to Washington to ask for a trade deal? Why did Boris bury the terms he was offering to the US, and what they wanted? Because the reality of control versus the rhetoric means we are not in the driving seat. The US could walk away, and did because they didn't get what they wanted. And you can bet your bottom dollar it was the NHS privatised completely, and an alternative dispute adjudication court manned by adjudicators chosen by the Americans, and in secret. How I know? Look up the terms of the trade deals the US has done with Mexico and Canada. Ask yourself why they backed out of the Asia Pacific Trade Partnership. The Americans take no prisoners. So, in that context, where is the control you're looking for? That's why Kemi Badenoch can't dig a trade deal worth it's name that isn't a cut and paste job from the deals done while we were in the EU. That's the sad irony. We literally have less control, less influence, and less credibility because of Brexit as a trade partner. It wasn't the EU's fault that we deindustrialised and were frankly inept at replacing those jobs with ones worth the name. And whole communities were left to wither on the vine. It's not the EU's fault that our governments were ideologues who believed stupid things like Austerity could grown an economy. Or that a pandemic was the perfect opportunity to raid the public purse, and let the taxpayer foot the bill. Etc, etc. Or that everything the EU did, the UK was at the table and influencing them to do it. Read Phillip Hammond's entry into the Brexit Witness Archive where he described how Teresa May talked herself into a corner, because there was no consensus about what Brexit meant or what it should look like. But she talked to the wrong people and threw away any chance of a rational Brexit by pushing ahead when she should have held a royal commission or a public inquiry to inform and identify what the best form of Brexit could be. We could have then debated it, and put that to another referendum. But she lacked imagination, and followed her ambition instead. And it blew up in her face, in Boris' face, in Truss' face, and in Sunak's face. Why? Because what they promised could not be delivered, and they did not own up to that. And if Farage ever came near to leading this country, it would blow up in his face too, because reality is a harsh mistress when you don't pay attention to her. And our establishment hasn't for quite some while. The truth is uncomfortable, but necessary. So, it will be future generations which will decide. Not us. We've blown it. All we can do is clean up the mess. That's the least we can do, but we have to deal with reality, and that nothing to do with our worth, or who we think we are. Good politics is the art of the possible, and if our current and future leaders do tell us what is really possible, we going to stay in the Slough of Despond we've dug ourselves into.
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