Comments by "bobby hans" (@user-oc7ll9sv5r) on "Силиконовый занавес"
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US. and UK., gave Ukraine a guarantee of protecting Ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity based on the 1991 borders that included Crimea and east Ukraine Luhansk and Donbass..
As of the result of the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, US., gave Ukraine a guarantee that the US, stands now as a grantor of Ukraine sovereignty , becouse Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons and back then, Ukraine had the world's third-largest nuclear weapons stockpile !!
This guarantee was reconfirmed by United States when in 2009 released a statement that the memorandum's security assurances would still be respected after the expiration of the START Treaty
After the annexation of Crimea by in 2014, The US, Canada, the UK, France along with other countries, stated that Russian involvement was a breach of its obligations to Ukraine under the Budapest Memorandum and in violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity.
Let me explain and give some Content !!
According to the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively abandoning their nuclear arsenal to Russia and that they would:
1. Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.
2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against Ukraine.
3. Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine to influence their politics.
4. Seek immediate action to provide assistance Ukraine if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine.
6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments
We need to understand that EITHER the word/ deals and / or the grantees of the west are worth something or they are not !!
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What really gets me is that some ppl. are now saying why does Ukraine not just let Russia have the areas /land it’s just a small part of Ukriane anyway.....
A small part of Ukraine ...WE ARE taking about a land mass over 200,000 sq km
In EU terms thats the size of Belgium, Holland, and Greece all put together..
In UK terms that the size of all of Scotland , Wales and most of England
In US terms is the size of South Carolina, West Virginia and New Jersey all put together !!
Why the should Ukraine give up all that land for what to be invaded only some years later !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country
The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept to be some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda and so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ...
Eastern European countries (ex soviet countries like Poland the baltic states ect ect ..) joined NATO because they are scared of Russia and want to be and stay independent. Nobody forced them to join NATO they was the ones running and knocking and begging to be able to join NATO and the EU ,,, .
When Russia invaded Ukriane Russia then just showed why it was a good idea for those countries to join NATO, because if they didn't they might just have got invaded as well just like Ukraine and Georgia did .
During Soviet times those Eastern European countries were nothing less than Russia puppet states. If they didn't join NATO after the fall of the USSR then they for sure couldn't guarantee their own independence from Russia.
Nato did nothing wrong, the only mistake was Ukraine not joining NATO to ensure Ukraines independence; Remember former satellite states like Poland, Romania, Czech Republic and The Baltic states, Slovakia ect ect all came running by their own accord, knocking, kicking, screaming and banging at the front door of EU and NATO begging to come in, no one forced them into it .
If Russia was not such a asshole country and stoped constantly bulling neighboring countries maybe other neighboring countries will not need to join NATO and by more open and welcoming to Russia ..
Also these people who advocate this view that Ukraine shroud just give up land and appeasement to Russians wants wishes are also being very ignorant to the fact that there were already treaties in place between Russia and Ukraine where Russia respecting the integrity of Ukraine's borders plus other treaties relating to the seas around Ukraine.
Putin has already broken those treaties.
Why would Ukraine believe Putin would stick to a new treaty when he's just broken half a dozen of the previous Russia Ukraine treaties and agreements.
Russia has demonstrated its treaties and agreements are worthless and you enter them at your great peril.
On a side note ; Moscow is ONLY 480 km to Latvia and 150 km from St, Petersburg and via Estonia so the argument that NATO will get closer to Moscow if Ukraine joins NATO is BS there is 800 km from Kyiv to Moscow ..
On another side note ; Election under a gun with tanks and thugs standing over the voting boxes is not an election it can not be a free and legal election...Referendums vía gun point isn't a referendum, it's racketeering. Something that Russia knows oh so very well how to do. YOU CAN VOTE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN It will never be legal as long as Russian army is there and as lone as it is an illegal gov. put there by an occupying force
It might be useful to recap some of the reason why Russia is now an outcast :
Russian interference in numerous elections and referendums in EU countries over the last decade; Russia's active disinformation campaigns across the EU;
Russian-based cyber attacks targeting numerous EU countries;
Provocative Russian military flights in and around EU and NATO airspace;
Russia's interference with GPS navigation systems in Scandinavia;
Russia's continued deployment of "peacekeepers" in Moldova despite that country's repeated requests that Russian troops be replaced with UN peacekeepers;
Russia's 2008 war against Georgia and its continued occupation of some 20 percent of Georgian territory;
Russia's 2014 annexation of Ukraine's Crimea region;
Russia's intense involvement in the war in eastern Ukraine, which the ICC in November 2016 ruled "an international armed conflict between Ukraine and the Russian Federation";
Russia's obstructionism in implementation of the Minsk agreements to end the Ukraine conflict;
Russia's role in acts of terrorism in the 2014 downing of a passenger airliner (Malaysia Airlines MH17) over Ukraine that killed 298 people;
Russia's poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko in London in 2006;
Russia's attempted assassination of former Russian spy Sergei Skripal in Salisbury in 2018;
among lots of other things to much to even list up ..
NONE OF THIS ABOVE WAS SOMETHING THE EU , THE USA OR EVEN NATO, FORCED OR TRICKED RUSSIA INTO DOING !!!
RUSSIA’S INVASION OF UKRAINE in 2014 VIOLATED INTERNATIONAL LAW:
1. The Geneva Convention.
2. Charter of the United Nations
3. The Helsinki Accords
4. The Charter of the OSCE
5. Budapest Memorandum of 1994
6. Two Russia, Ukraine friendship treaties
7. International Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Racial Discrimination
8. European Court of Human Rights
THE LEGAL FACTS WHY CRIMEA BELONGS TO UKRAINE .
The earlier published documents, and materials that have emerged more recently make clear that the transfer of Crimea from the RSFSR to the UkrSSR was carried out in accordance with the 1936 Soviet constitution, which in Article 18 stipulated that “the territory of a Union Republic may not be altered without its consent.” The proceedings of the USSR Supreme Soviet Presidium meeting indicate that both the RSFSR and the UkrSSR had given their consent via their republic parliaments.
One of the officials present at the 19 February session, Otto Kuusinen, even boasted that “only in our country [the USSR] is it possible that issues of the utmost importance such as the territorial transfer of individual oblasts to a particular republic can be decided without any difficulties.” One might argue that the process in 1954 would have been a lot better if it had been complicated and difficult, but no matter how one judges the expeditiousness of the territorial reconfiguration, the main point to stress here is that it is incorrect to say (as some Russian commentators and government officials recently have) that Crimea was transferred unconstitutionally or illegally. The legal system in the Soviet Union was mostly a fiction, but the transfer did occur in accordance with the rules in effect at the time.
Moreover, regardless of how the transfer was carried out, the Russian Federation expressly accepted Ukraine’s 1991 borders both in the December 1991 Belovezhskaya Pushcha accords (the agreements that precipitated and codified the dissolution of the Soviet Union) and in the December 1994 Budapest Memorandum that finalized Ukraine’s status as a non-nuclear weapons state.
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THE CASE WHY UKRIANE WILL BE GOOD FOR NATO AND NATO GOOD FOR UKRIANE !
1. The important bit of NATOs article 5 is that it invokes the UN article 51. UN article 51 says that all countries have the right to self defense against an attack. NATO article 5 means that for the purposes of UN A. 51, NATO is one block.Thus an attack on any country in the alliance gives all other countries in NATO the right to act in defense of that country.
2. The amount of money and equipment NATO countries in the last 10 years has pumped into Ukraine; has turned The Ukrainian Army into a well armed battle hardened fighting force ; Ukrainian troops have been trained to NATO standard, and have gaining valuable experience in how to fight Russia (experience that no other army in the world has ) to they point that Ukraine is the foremost expert in the world when it comes to how to defeat Russian military battlefield tactics!!! With that alone, Ukriane will be a valuable partner in the NATO alliance. If anything does happen to, for example, the Baltic countries (Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, for anyone who does know, no judgement if you don't) then I can't see Ukraine shying away from returning the favor. So they'd end up fighting in there alongside the rest of us anyway...
All that, and I think it's safe to say that the Ukrainian people for generations to come deserve it written in black and white that we absolutely will be there if anything like this were to happen again
PS. UKRAINIANS MORE THEN ANYONE ELSE KNOW ONE THING .. : Better One Foot in NATO than a Cold Ass in Siberia.!!
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@BCSTS Claim: NATO promised Russia it would not expand after the Cold War
Fact: NATO Allies take decisions by consensus and these are recorded. There is no record of any such decision having been taken by NATO. Personal assurances from individual leaders cannot replace Alliance consensus and do not constitute formal NATO agreement.
NATO's "Open Door Policy" is based on Article 10 of the Alliance's founding document, the North Atlantic Treaty (1949). The Treaty states that NATO membership is open to any "European state in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of the North Atlantic area". It states that any decision on enlargement must be made "by unanimous agreement". NATO has never revoked Article 10, nor limited the potential for enlargement. Over the past 65 years, 29 countries have chosen freely, and in accordance with their domestic democratic processes, to join NATO. This is their sovereign choice.
In addition, at the time of the alleged promise, the Warsaw Pact still existed.
Its members did not agree on its dissolution until 1991.
The idea of their accession to NATO was not on the agenda in 1989.
This was confirmed by Mikhail Gorbachev himself in an interview with Russia Beyond the Headlines: see link https://www.rbth.com/international/2014/10/16/mikhail_gorbachev_i_am_against_all_walls_40673.html
Mikhail Gorbachev himself : "The topic of 'NATO expansion' was not discussed at all, and it wasn't brought up in those years. I say this with full responsibility. Not a single Eastern European country raised the issue, not even after the Warsaw Pact ceased to exist in 1991. Western leaders didn't bring it up, either."
Newly declassified White House transcripts also reveal that, in 1997, Bill Clinton consistently refused Boris Yeltsin’s offer of a ‘gentlemen’s agreement’ that no former Soviet Republics would enter NATO:
“I can’t make commitments on behalf of NATO, and I’m not going to be in the position myself of vetoing NATO expansion with respect to any country, much less letting you or anyone else do so…
Also on a side note : if there was a such agreement (and there was not ) the agreement will have been with the USSR and the USSR as a country and legal entity no longer excites any more it is only in the history books and therefor all legally binding verbal or otherwise contract with the USSR is no longer valid and has no legal standing !!
NATO operates by consensus.”
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RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND IS NOT ACCEPTABLE !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination like a type of 2nd class country; that is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept to be some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country, that indirectly will serving the kremlins geopolitical agenda, and so Kremlin, the RuZZians and Putin can feel better about themselves ...
All the Eastern European countries has more or less joined NATO because they was scared of Russia and want make sure they will stay independent, (and the same goes for the EU financial independence ) Nobody forced Eastern European countries to join , NATO or the EU all of them came running and begging and knocking on the door of NATO and EU by themselves, asking and begging to be let into The EU and NATO !!
Russia invading Ukriane back 2014 and Georgia back in 2008 and now all out war with Ukraine from 2022++ just showed, why it was and still is a good idea for those Eastern European countries to join NATO, and the EU because if they didn't they might just have got invaded as well .
During Soviet times those Eastern countries where nothing but quasi Russia puppet states and where totally exploited by Russia under under its heel and boot. If those eastern European countries didn't join NATO then they couldn't have guaranteed their own future continuous independence from Russia by themselves . Nato did nothing wrong, the only mistake was Ukraine not joining NATO to ensure their independence !!!
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The Black Sea countries are many!! And Then Black Sea does not belong to Russia that’s a myth !!
Bulgaria, (NATO )
Romania (NATO)
Turkey (NATO)
Ukraine (NATO partner )
Georgia (NATO partner)
So in-fact ANY NATO country members navy and or air force is within their full right to sail and be within the Black Sea, as non of the Black Sea Nations (That have a real and legal int. recognized cost-line not like Russia ) have any problem with NATO ships being in their waters and even the non NATO members like Ukraine and Georgia, even more so then the NATO nations, want and are begging for more NATO ships to come and be in the BLACK SEA !
(NATO nations of the black sea are in-fact real black sea nations not like Russia stealing land then claiming to be the owner of that land and sea )
Coastline length to the black see by country/ Country Coastline length (km)
Turkey 1,329km (NATO)
Ukraine 2,782km (NATO partner )
Bulgaria 354km (NATO)
Georgia 310km (NATO partner )
Romania 225km (NATO)
(And lets not forget the last time when "Russia" got closer to NATO it was in-fact Russia own doing, by invading and annexing Crimea in 2014 "Russia" came right up-to and ended inside the NATO countries BLACK SEA maritime territorial waters !!)
And her is a thought .. If every neighbor you have is running to NATO begging NATO to let them join; is it becouse you are such a nice and good neighbor?
Or is it because you act like a bully and are aggressive and invade your neighbors lands sending in troops and tanks Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968, Poland 1980 Moldova 1990-91, Georgia 2008, Ukraine 2014 ++ and now 2022+++ all of Ukraine !!
Russia eats eats eats its victims and then blame the victims for eating them !!...
Maybe if you act in a more nicer way, then your neighbors will liked you more and maybe your neighbors in your neighborhood will want to be around you as well ..
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THE MYTH OF RUSSIA IS A SUPERPOWER ON THE WORLD STAGE DEBUNKED !
For centuries, Russia has seen itself as one of the world's great powers.
This superpower Russia status idea myth, seen by most of the world is now become a declining idea and the world is now seeing that Russia is not and has never been any super power; More and more ppl. now understand that Russia has only been masquerading as a "SUPER POWER " the Kremlin has been presenting itself as one and hiding behind the Myth of super power status; And even for some time the kremlin themself (one can argue) started to believe in their own lies, their own myth making and their own propaganda !
BUT AFTER UKRIANE THIS MYTH IS BUSTED !!
Russia: has only $1.48 trillion annual GDP that makes Russia about the same size economically on the level of Spain if your economy is as small as Spain how can you think even for one min you are some sort of super power, that has some spacial right to be seen on the same level as UK, US , or even China ???
Let's look at some fact here: Russia is closer to Indonesia and Australia economically, than it is UK , Germany , France US or Japan .. !!
And when it comes to having nukes dose that make you a super power, well UK and France has nuclear weapons (intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBMs) as well and so does North Korea and even israel is claimed to have nuclear weapons, is North Korea or UK and France Super powers becouse they have nuclear weapons ???
1. United States: $20.89 trillion
2. China: $14.72 trillion
3. Japan: $5.06 trillion
4. Germany: $3.85 trillion
5. United Kingdom: $2.67 trillion
6. India: $2.66 trillion
7. France: $2.63 trillion
8. Italy: $1.89 trillion
9. Canada: $1.64 trillion
10. South Korea: $1.63 trillion
11. Russia: $1.48 trillion
12. Brazil: $1.44 trillion
13. Australia: $1.32 trillion
14. Spain: $1.28 trillion
15. Indonesia: $1.05 trillion
Russia is a joke and will always be a joke, Russians have nothing at all to be proud of Stalins USSR and today's Putin's Russia was and are totalitarian states..
Putin is appealing to the most basic of instincts, fears and insecurities in Russians. Many Russians harbor insecurities related to loss of the evil empire that was the USSR, and with that Russians idea of being / having superpower status..
Lets be honest, the Soviet Union 1922–1991 only was in word history for 69 years
Russians have nothing at all to be proud of Stalin the USSR and today's Putin's Russia are and was all totalitarian states..
RuSSia and the Soviet Union was NO better then Hitlers Germany, Pol Potts Cambodia, Idi Amins Uganda, Francos Spain, Mussolini’s Italia, Gaddafi's Libya, Kim Jong-un North Korea and/ or Putins good friend Bashar Al-Assads Syria
Ukrainians, on the other hand have made a new beginning. They are rejecting Russian-style autocracy, reforming the economy and moving against the pervasive corruption of the old regime.
Ukraine naturally and rightfully belongs in Europe. Putin has used every means possible, including military aggression and terrorism to damage and subordinate Ukraine.
He will not succeed. Ukraine's whole history revolves around the struggle for liberty and resistance to foreign oppression. Ukrainians are starkly different to Russians. They are not and have never been mentally slaves of Moscow lies, propaganda and control .
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Russia’s Resource Grab in Ukraine
What is the real reason for the war in Ukraine?
IS THE REASON That Ukraine’s extraordinary riches in energy, minerals, and agriculture are a prize for the Kremlin.???
OR IS THE REASON The Russia’s motives for invading Ukraine vary from security fears to revisionist historical claims that a Ukrainian national identity does not exist. ??
We have all heard about the "reason " for Putins invasion of Ukraine ; In a TV address at the outset of Russia’s invasion, the country’s president Vladimir Putin said that the objective was to “demilitarize and de-nazify Ukraine”. But this has been dismissed as a baseless pre-text upon which Putin justified a land-grab against an independent state.
BUT LETS TAKE A CLOSER LOOK SHALE WE !
The systematic slaughter of thousands of people is madness. However, some observers argue that, while Putin’s means may bear the hallmarks of lunacy, his end is decidedly more rational. They speculate that the Russian leader ordered the invasion of Ukraine to strike a blow in the battle for control of the means of delivering the global energy transition.
The logic of the argument is this: prior to the Russian invasion, it had been estimated that Ukraine had around 500,000 tonnes of high-quality lithium – a key component of the batteries used in electric vehicles and energy storage systems – and consequently the country was set to become a “key player in the global transition to green technology”.
Lithium’s crucial role in our daily lives
It’s worth a brief note here highlighting exactly how important lithium is in our day-to-day lives. As the US mining company Piedmont Lithium succinctly sums it up on its website: “Lithium plays a critical role in much of what we do in our daily lives. In addition to EVs, lithium is an essential part of the technology that powers mobile phones, computers, power tools and battery storage of energy generated from wind and solar power.” Right now, you are reading this article on a device that is powered by a battery with lithium in it. Meanwhile, the energy transition will be largely driven by wind and solar projects that produce energy that is stored in lithium batteries. Research has shown that lithium-ion batteries account for 85 per cent of newly installed energy storage capacity. As the chart below shows, worldwide demand for lithium will soar from 685,000 metric tonnes in 2023 to 2.1 million tonnes by 2030.
Dig into the earth near the Ukrainian city of Dniprorudne, and you'll hit ore with an iron content of over 60%.
Before the war, about 4.5 million tons of this high-quality iron ore were mined each year — with the lion's share exported to Slovakia, the Czech Republic and Austria. Selling this strategically important resources earned Dniprorudne mines the equivalent of €200 million ($216 million) per year. One-third of the ore was made into steel at a plant to the west, in the city of Zaporizhzhia, and also exported.
But all that changed in the summer of 2022, when Russian troops occupied Dniprorudne. Ukraine's highly coveted and strategically important natural resources are now being sent to Russia. Ukrainian, Slovak and Czech investors in the mining business have had their property seized by Russia.
Metallurgy ore exports fell by nearly 60% in 2022 from 2021, dropping to a total value of less than $3 billion (€2.8 billion), according to industry analysts GMK Center, a Ukraine-based think tank. Part of this drop is attributed to Russia's occupation of Ukrainian mining regions. In 2022, the Canadian think tank SecDev estimated the total value of deposits in occupied Ukraine at over $12 trillion. In addition to iron ore, key resources such as coal, titanium and manganese are found in Ukraine. Gold, natural gas, oil, kaolinite, salt, gypsum, zirconium and uranium are also present.
BUT THE BIG PRIZ IS LITHIUM !!!
Coveted lithium reserves
Today, lithium is one of the world's most sought-after minerals, as it is needed for smartphone and car batteries, among other things. Ukraine is trying to to woo foreign investors with promises of the "largest lithium reserves in Europe"
Russia is eyeing the two mega Ukrainian lithium deposits out of the total of four to exist in the country. One of them, at Kruta Balka, lies in the Zaporizhzhia region, which has been under Russian occupation since spring 2022. The other, Shevchenko, is situated in the Donetsk region, only a few kilometers from the front line and the other two is also under Russian occupation
Russia also occupies also three of Ukraine's rare earth deposits, according Kashchuk. The resource expert added that zirconium, uranium, but especially graphite and titanium will grow in demand.
"Graphite is used in battery production and coveted," he told DW. Two of Ukraine's graphite deposits are under Russian control. Yet the remaining four remain under Ukraine's control, and at one, mining is already underway, he said.
Ukraine before that war had great potential for Ukraine to becom a major titanium supplier in the world . Already today, the country produces 7% of the world's titanium, placing it in the global top five;
And where dose all of those resources just happened to be located yes you got it in east and south of Ukraine !!
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Russians always uses as an excuse: I'm not interested in politics to make out they have not supported the anything bad !!
Look at it this way ; Putin is himself a symptom of the Russian mentality; FACT ; it is Russia and Russians that made Putin NOT Putin that made Russia or Russians !!
Far from dragging his reluctant compatriots into war, Putin is himself a symptom of the Russian mentality (remember it is Russia and Russians that made Putin NOT Putin that made Russia or Russians ) the unapologetically imperialistic outlook that shapes modern Russia’s relationship with the outside world and fuels the country’s insatiable appetite for external aggression.
(Moldova, 1991
Georgia 2008
Ukraine (Crimea ) 2014 Ukraine (East Ukraine )
and now all of Ukraine 2022 ++++)
(And let's not forget historical Russian roles in 1994 Nagorno Karabakh. 1994
First Chechen War 1999 Second Chechen War 2000 Second Chechen War part 2, Kazakhstan 2022 just to mention some as there are many more )
An understanding of Russia’s imperial instincts is essential for anyone looking to make sense of the seemingly senseless war crimes currently taking place in Ukraine. After all, it was not Putin who committed rape, torture, and mass murder in towns and villages across Ukraine. Putin did not fly the jets or fire the artillery that reduced entire Ukrainian cities to rubble. Likewise, he did not personally produce the endless stream of Russian propaganda films, TV shows, fake news bulletins, and social media posts dehumanizing Ukrainians and demonizing the West. These crimes were only possible thanks to the millions of Russians who willingly participated in the process or offered their enthusiastic support over a period of many years.
While politicians and commentators in the West continue to promote the comforting notion that Russians are themselves victims of Putin’s regime, virtually all the available evidence points to strong Russian public support for the war in Ukraine.
A recent survey conducted by Russia’s only internationally respected independent pollster, the Levada Center, found that 89% of Russians back the invasion of Ukraine with just 6% somewhat disagreed and 5% strongly opposed . (NOW LET THAT SINK IN !! )
Positive Russian attitudes toward the war are rooted in longstanding perceptions of Ukraine as part of Russia’s imperial heartlands. Despite the passage of three decades since the collapse of the Soviet Union, many Russians have never fully come to terms with the idea of an independent Ukraine and continue to regard the country as an indivisible element of historic Russia that has been artificially separated from the motherland.
Putin did not invent such sentiments but he has proven highly skilled at exploiting them. In his many speeches and essays on the Ukraine issue, he has consistently appealed to Russia’s imperial aspirations while playing on widespread resentment at the country’s post-Soviet humiliations and loss of superpower status. When Putin laments the fall of the USSR as the “demise of historical Russia,” ordinary Russians understand that it is primarily Ukraine he has in mind.
UNDERSTAND-THAT Russians are and have always been psychoticnation spellbound and fascinated by the big great leader syndrome-complex it comes historically of their eurasian historical mentality and idea /ideology of what the Russians call the Ruski Mir (Russia world ) some call it the Russian soul and what they see as th "uniqueness" of the Russian national identity. ..
The Russians have now vote in Putin for-almost 20years now, they vote over and over for this sycophanticlunatic that is Putin; The Russians have no excuse they have voted him in for over 20 years now, they know how he is, why he does what he does, and what he will do; there should be no shock over what he does or does not do, the Russians know all about Putin, and they like what he does, and how he does it; And that is why they vote for him over and over and over again !!
Look at it from this way : The public had a changes back in 2008 in the election when Putin in accordance with the Russian constitution, was forbidden to run for the office of President because of the limitation of how many times a person can continually be President ; The Russian ppl. had an option of voting for the opposition cadet at the time Mr. Boris Nemstov (and not for Putins boy Demitry Medvedev,) and therefor also democracy rule of law and to become a normal country;
But did they vote for Boris?
NO no no no, they did not vote for Boris did they !!
NO they vote for Putin's puppet boy Mr. Demitry Medvedev, because that was the next best thing as voting for Putin himself !!!
And after one term in office they voted once more to reinstated Putin back as president in accordance with the constitution !! So the Russians have no excuse they are responsible for what Putin does in there name..
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Russia is a joke and will always be a joke, Russians have nothing at all to be proud of Stalin's USSR and today's Putin's Russia was and are totalitarian states..
Putin is appealing to the most basic of instincts, fears and insecurities in Russians. Many Russians harbor insecurities related to loss of the evil empire that was the USSR, and with that Russians idea of being / having superpower status..
With Putin now Russians would like to reclaim this feeling and idea of the superpower status lol...being to look big is something dyp in the ethno psychological aspects of the RuSSian mentality that makes them feel drawn to the "strong leader "
Lets look at Russia today ..
Russia today is known mostly for being nothing more than a petrol-state run by an oligarch elite that answers to only one leadership, the strongman Mr Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin himself...
Russia is one step away from a banana-dictatorship and is in all but name a fascist state and to deflect from the world this simple facts, Putins Russia uses total strong hold and control over the media and information flow and control over Russia's gas energy sector, military, FSB and Police force.
When ever Putin feels that it is needed Putin's thugs the FSB boys take control of anything they want and they do this internally and externally, all this gets backed up with source of lies and propaganda to deflect the world from the real truth about what Russia really is, a mentally sick nation and society full of people controlled and living in a dream of a past that never really existed (or at least not in the way they wish it was )
Lets be honest, the Soviet Union 1922–1991 only was in word history for 69 years not much of a superpower if you only can claim 69 years in history, before you was wiped out of existence ...69 years my grandmother Bessy is older than that LOL
Or what am i not right ????? USSR can only claim 69 years it started in 1922 and was dissolved in 1991 ....
Russians USSR a superpower don't make me laugh....it was nothing more and RuSSia today still is nothing more then a evil state run by evil little people that just has some nukes under their control.. and as the cowards they are wave around themselves this weapons and shout about them to make themselves look big..
Russians have nothing at all to be proud of Stalin the USSR and today's Putin's Russia are and was all totalitarian states..
RuSSia and the Soviet Union was NO better than Hitler's Germany, Pol Potts Cambodia, Idi Amins Uganda, Francos Spain, Mussolini’s Italia, Gaddafi's Libya, Kim Jong-un North Korea and/ or Putin's good friend Bashar Al-Assads Syria
Ukrainians, on the other hand have made a new beginning. They are rejecting Russian-style autocracy, reforming the economy and moving against the pervasive corruption of the old regime.
Ukraine naturally and rightfully belongs in Europe. Putin has used every means possible, including military aggression and terrorism to damage and subordinate Ukraine.
He will not succeed. Ukraine's whole history revolves around the struggle for liberty and resistance to foreign oppression. Ukrainians are starkly different to Russians. They are not and have never been mentally slaves of Moscow lies, propaganda and control .
The face of true evil Putin's RuSSia and propaganda
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THE MYTH OF RUSSIA IS A SUPERPOWER ON THE WORLD STAGE DEBUNKED !
For centuries, Russia has seen itself as one of the world's great powers.
This superpower Russia status idea myth, seen by most of the world is now become a declining idea and the world is now seeing that Russia is not and has never been any super power; More and more ppl. now understand that Russia has only been masquerading as a "SUPER POWER " the Kremlin has been presenting itself as one and hiding behind the Myth of super power status; And even for some time the kremlin themself (one can argue) started to believe in their own lies, their own myth making and their own propaganda !
BUT AFTER UKRIANE THIS MYTH IS BUSTED !!
Russia: has only $1.48 trillion annual GDP that makes Russia about the same size economically on the level of Spain if your economy is as small as Spain how can you think even for one min you are some sort of super power, that has some spacial right to be seen on the same level as UK, US , or even China ???
Let's look at some fact here: Russia is closer to Indonesia and Australia economically, than it is UK , Germany , France US or Japan .. !!
And when it comes to having nukes dose that make you a super power, well UK and France has nuclear weapons (intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBMs) as well and so does North Korea and even israel is claimed to have nuclear weapons, is North Korea or UK and France Super powers becouse they have nuclear weapons ???
1. United States: $20.89 trillion
2. China: $14.72 trillion
3. Japan: $5.06 trillion
4. Germany: $3.85 trillion
5. United Kingdom: $2.67 trillion
6. India: $2.66 trillion
7. France: $2.63 trillion
8. Italy: $1.89 trillion
9. Canada: $1.64 trillion
10. South Korea: $1.63 trillion
11. Russia: $1.48 trillion
12. Brazil: $1.44 trillion
13. Australia: $1.32 trillion
14. Spain: $1.28 trillion
15. Indonesia: $1.05 trillion
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Appeasement & Armageddon: Giving in to Vladimir Putin’s nuclear blackmail will spark an unprecedented nuclear arms race and make a future nuclear war far more likely!!
There is a reason why the Soviet Union, nor any nuclear power, never launched a first strike (nuclear attack) since Word War 2, despite all of the Cold War fears that the Soviets would. And it’s because you can't launch a first strike without being annihilated in the second strike. I remember in the 80s when The Day After aired, and everyone hoped the Soviets would see the movie and learn the lesson. Probably not realizing the Soviets can be trusted to act in the best self-interests...which mutually assured destruction is clearly against... and that the Soviets knew this since the 60s, if not the 50s. -- How is it any different today?
Even if Putin had the launch codes (he doesn't), or the ability to order a first strike by himself (he doesn't), even he would know the response is not going to be 'more sanctions'. -- The only way I could fathom Russia using a nuclear weapon in Ukraine, or against any enemy country, is the FSB had a foolproof plan to blame am ISIS terror cell, or rogue Chechen element, or claim the Ukrainians did it in a false-flag conspiracy to frame the Russians. -- But that would require a convincing story on how such an element got the nuclear weapon 'elsewhere', and eliminating everyone involved in the planning and execution. Whatever the case, Russia would need absolute plausible deniability. -- Here's my two cents, if there was really a way to use a nuclear weapon against an enemy without equal repercussions, Russia and China (and the US) would have figured it out a long time ago and did it already.
All NATO must do is take out Moscow and 5 -6 other city's to take out all of Russia.... But Russia must take out city's all over the planet from USA , CANADA ,FRANCE UK. ALL OF EUROPE and as far away as , AUSTRALIA and so on and so on ...
United Kingdom 225 warheads (submarine delivery systems new and up to date systems )
France 300 warheads
(submarine delivery systems new and up to date systems )
United States 7,315 warheads
(Mixed delivery systems new and up to date systems )
Russia 8,000 warheads
(Mixed delivery systems old mostly from the soviet union times NOT up to date systems )
RUSSIA IS AT DISADVANTAGE !!! and they know it Putin's regime knows its and that is why they will not use nukes they will hint and shout about nukes but that's it !!
ON A SIDE NOTE : Missiles require a huge amount of upkeep and if the maintenance that we've seen on Russian captured tanks in Ukraine is anything to go by, or how there nuclear sublime fleet upkeep is I figure half of Russian Missiles would be defect or even blow up on in mid flight ; Any NBC specialist can tell you that they estimate that without extensive maintenance an ICBM has about a 5% per year cumulative failure rate. And mote of Russia ICBMs are form the late 80s early nineties so based on those facts like I say many as much as half of their weapons can end up and would failx.
ALSO ON A 2nd NOTE ; Putin cannot just wake up one day and press a button because he wants to when it comes to sending nukes around the world !!!
The president, and minister of defense and chief of the General Staff together prepare the authorization for use of nuclear weapons and they must all 3 be in 100% agreement before and launch can take place they can not be in the same room and have all of them fiscally use their personal one time login codes to activate the launch procedure it is a complicated process with lost of redundancy for safety so it is impossible for only one man to go crazy and launch a nuke attack !! So even if Putin went off his head he still cannot launch the nukes without consent from the others !!
The “direct command” (launch order) would be sent, via the Chegets, to the units by the General Staff, which holds the codes to access the machine that will produce the codes for launch and then the General Staff and the commanders have to send two different codes to all three branches as an extra layer of authentication.
Launch orders would be transmitted by second-level communication systems (distinct from Kazbek):
Signal for Strategic Rocket Forces, and KSBU (which stands for centralized command-and-control
system) for air and sea forces.
And then they orders and codes will be sent back to the General Staff , the defense minister and the President via the Chegets, and the orders and codes must be verified and confirmed up the chain of commend to give authorization only after a authentication process is/ has been confirmed ...
When that is done then the president and the defense minister have to send two separate codes, to be integrated by the chief of the General Staff, who added his or her own code. and send that though the system to give authorization and authentication process is confirmed .
PS. And lets not forget the the Submarine KURSK was part of Russia's nuclear weapons platform and it was falling apart to such an degree that its systems torpedo systems on the Sub. malfunctions and blow up under water and sank the sub and .. killed all of its crew ....
Now if that is what Russia's nuclear delivery platform and weapons platform is like all I can say is WTF !!! And let us not forget that Kursk was the pride and joy of Russia's navy... What does the rest of the Russian nuclear weapons program look like if Kursk is anything to go by ?
I mean...... If you can not hold your submarines floating in pace time what hope do you really have for holding your submarines floating in war time ?
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@recalcitrantrecidivist5927 What really gets me is that some ppl. are now saying why does Ukraine not just let Russia have the areas /land it’s just a small part of Ukraine anyway.....
A small part of Ukraine ...WE ARE taking about a land mass is almost 200,000 sq km
In EU terms thats the size of Belgium, Holland, luxembourg and Greece all put together..
In UK terms that the size of all of Scotland , Wales and 80% of England all put together !!
In US terms is the size of South Carolina, West Virginia and New Jersey all put together !!
Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ...
Eastern European countries (ex soviet countries like Poland the baltic states ect ect ..) joined NATO because they are scared of Russia and want to be and stay independent. Nobody forced them to join NATO they was the ones running and knocking and begging to be able to join NATO and the EU ,,, .
When Russia invaded Ukraine Russia then just showed why it was a good idea for those countries to join NATO, because if they didn't they might just have got invaded as well just like Ukraine and Georgia did .
During Soviet times those Eastern European countries were nothing less than Russia puppet states. If they didn't join NATO after the fall of the USSR then they for sure couldn't guarantee their own independence from Russia.
Nato did nothing wrong, the only mistake was Ukraine not joining NATO to ensure Ukraines independence; Remember former satellite states like Poland, Romania, Czech Republic and The Baltic states, Slovakia ect ect all came running by their own accord, knocking, kicking, screaming and banging at the front door of EU and NATO begging to come in, no one forced them into it .
If Russia was not such a asshole country and stoped constantly bulling neighboring countries maybe other neighboring countries will not need to join NATO and by more open and welcoming to Russia ..
Also these people who advocate this view that Ukraine shroud just give up land and appeasement to Russians wants wishes are also being very ignorant to the fact that there were already treaties in place between Russia and Ukraine where Russia respecting the integrity of Ukraine's borders plus other treaties relating to the seas around Ukraine.
Putin has already broken those treaties.
Why would Ukraine believe Putin would stick to a new treaty when he's just broken half a dozen of the previous Russia Ukraine treaties and agreements.
Russia has demonstrated its treaties and agreements are worthless and you enter them at your great peril.
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Putin did not begin the undercover proxy-war in 2014 so that it would end in peace, independency and prosperity for Ukraine and its people. and he did not start a all out war in 2022 for the independency and prosperity for Ukraine and its people
This war does not hinder Putin, it facilitates his goals instead.
Putin started it so it would end with the defeat of Ukraine and the Ukrainian peoples/ nations aspirations of true self-government true independence and democratic nation, that was fare away from the hegemony control and orbit of Russia … IN OTHER words with our collapse of Ukrainian society.
It helps him keep Ukraine on the Kremlin hook and hegemony control and helps Putin feel himself as an influential leader negotiating with the West. So, why would he need peace?
And before someone starts up about Russia right to protect itself from the "western incursion and decadent western incorrectness of political arrogance" (whatever that means ) and therefor Russian needs a "a broader sphere of interest in Ukraine "
Let me ask you this ; Who gives Putin the right to have "a broader sphere of interest in Ukraine " we live in 2022 not 1822 ??? What about the people who live in "that so called sphere of interest" that is the sovereign country of Ukriane don't they (the Ukrainian ppl.) have an " sphere of interest in Ukriane itself " ?
Shall the Ukrainians just bend their knee and behave as slaves, and become some sort of quasi 2nd class nation/ country, and have their society run under the heal and accept being kicked by Kremlin's boot of the " sphere of Russian interest " ; Should Ukriane just roll over and let Russia controlled Ukriane for the sole benefit of Putins klan agenda and the geo political intrs. of the Moscow Kremlin kleptocracy elites?: And let Ukraine become some sort of quasi geographical entity for political advantages of the Kremlin ? Or should Ukriane stand up and fight against such tyrannical thing as PUTINS "sphere of interest" as the independent European self governing state it is FIGHT for freedom, sovereignty and self-rule ??
FACT !!! Ukriane was forced into this war by Russia not Russia by Ukriane (or anyone else ) Volodymyr Zelenskyy, has no choice he needs to now be the president of a country, that is in a war defending its country and ppl. against a brutal evilaggressor. And the authorities of the aggressor country do not want any peace.
(If the Russia army stops fighting today and goes home back to Russia tomorrow there will be NO war If Ukraine stops fighting today there will be NO Ukraine !! )
Russians doesn't want to be a part of the western democracy thats fine Ukriane does that is not the same as Ukriane wants to be lgbtq++++ woke senter infact when it comes to those sort of things Ukriane is more like Russia than even Hungary or Poland is Ukrainian society has nothing good to say about marximen or wokeisem or Russian imperialism they among Ukraine's stand absolutely equal and are seen with the disdain, loathing and contempt !!!
But like I say if Russia has no intrs. and they feel Russia society values and norms living is so much better than the despicable arrogant western world, just stay in Russia stop living inside the west stop buying houses , sending your kids to western schools for a western education and holidays to the western world and stop using western products and technology no prob you go do you; you go be Russia no one is stopping you !!
Why not try and stop emulating the west will at the same time rejecting the west and then on top of it claiming to be its equal .. here is a thought if you are the emulating the west you are a copy and a copy is just hard core evidence that the original is the better !! If your Russki Mir (Russian World ideology /society ) was better then the western world; why do you not 100% just stick to being Russian why are you emulating everything that is western !! The answer is clear becouse its better then your Russki Mir !!
Ukriane, Georgia , Moldova the Baltic's and the rest of Eastern Europe don't want your Russian world (KGB Putin Stalinism strong man BS ) they want western democracy freedom and choice so let them make their own future there own mistakes and there own success those ppl. countries and nations don't want your Moscow /Kremlin HEGEMONY called Russki Mir or your so called Russian greatness of special rights of so called 3rd Rome !!
Let's take a look at Ukriane and the same goes for Georgia and other countries that Moscow wants to bully and kick around !!
Ukraine is a sovereign nation with rights and should be free to govern itself. Russia as a political entity has never had the best interest of the Ukraine and its people at heart. The Ukrainians have a distinct and rich culture, their own language, and a desire for self-rule, liberty and freedom to make decisions of its own.
Russia wants to control Ukraine so it can obtain its resources for its own benefit (as has happened throughout history). Ukraine in its east and south has in-fact the 3rd biggest oil and gas reservers in Europe and should those resources start getting taped and sold to the west then Russia has a massive competitor on its hands for the European market !! You don't believe me google Ukraine shield gas reserves !!
Russian control has never been for the benefit of the Ukrainian people. BUT HERE"S THE REAL POINT: even if it had been, Ukraine is still a sovereign nation and has the right to rule itself!!!
The Russian state has sought to control Ukraine and to deceive the rest of the world into believing that there is no Ukrainian culture or language, and that Ukraine is simply a dissident Russian state through use of propaganda and oppression has repeatedly attempted to wipe out the Ukrainian people and culture.
Do I need to mention the millions of Ukrainians killed by the Russian government? The fear and repression of Ukraine under Russian rule? The families lost behind the "Iron Curtain?"
The Holodomor genocide when Russia killed 10 mill Ukrainians in 1933 - 1934 and after that replaced then with ethnic Russians manly in the east of Ukraine (todays Donbas ) for crying out loud?
And that is why after 1991 the Ukrainians rally around their rich and beautiful culture - because it is THEIRS. And because they deserve a voice of their own, and to live free from the oppression of of foreign state that seeks to exploit and obliterate them!
Russian controlled soviet union former satellite states like Poland, Romania, and Czech the Baltic states, Slovakia ect ect ect ...couldn't wait to join NATO and the EU to get as fare away from Russian hegemony control as fast as the possibly can at the time .
If the Russians weren't suchaaaaholes, they wouldn't have to worry about EU NATO and former satellite states like Poland, Romania, and Czech the Baltic states, Slovakia ect ect ect running too the front door of EU and NATO .
(PS : yes i agree not all is perfect in the west but is why better and has always been why better than anything Russia has come up with in history ; And that is why ppl from all over the world (including Russians ) move to Europe ,UK and US in the millions !! ; For all its faults that the western world has and it has a few, it still is 10000 times better than Russia , Africa or china !!! I mean no one is building a wall to hold ppl. inside like Russian controlled Soviet Union did the US is in fact building walls to stop ppl. for coming inn and so dose European countries as well )
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@danielmiller3781 For centuries, Russia has seen itself as one of the world's great powers.
This superpower Russia status idea myth, seen by most of the world is now become a declining idea and the world is now seeing that Russia is not and has never been any super power; More and more ppl. now understand that Russia has only been masquerading as a "SUPER POWER " the Kremlin has been presenting itself as one and hiding behind the Myth of super power status; And even for some time the kremlin themself (one can argue) started to believe in their own lies, their own myth making and their own propaganda !
BUT AFTER UKRAINE THIS MYTH IS BUSTED !!
Russia: has only $1.48 trillion annual GDP that makes Russia about the same size economically on the level of Spain if your economy is as small as Spain how can you think even for one min you are some sort of super power, that has some spacial right to be seen on the same level as UK, US , or even China ???
Let's look at some fact here: Russia is closer to Indonesia and Australia economically, than it is UK , Germany , France US or Japan .. !!
And when it comes to having nukes dose that make you a super power, well UK and France has nuclear weapons (intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBMs) as well and so does North Korea and even israel is claimed to have nuclear weapons, is North Korea or UK and France Super powers becouse they have nuclear weapons ???
1. United States: $20.89 trillion
2. China: $14.72 trillion
3. Japan: $5.06 trillion
4. Germany: $3.85 trillion
5. United Kingdom: $2.67 trillion
6. India: $2.66 trillion
7. France: $2.63 trillion
8. Italy: $1.89 trillion
9. Canada: $1.64 trillion
10. South Korea: $1.63 trillion
11. Russia: $1.48 trillion
12. Brazil: $1.44 trillion
13. Australia: $1.32 trillion
14. Spain: $1.28 trillion
15. Indonesia: $1.05 trillion
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@danielmiller3781 Russia is a joke and will always be a joke, Russians have nothing at all to be proud of Stalins USSR and today's Putin's Russia was and are totalitarian states..
Putin is appealing to the most basic of instincts, fears and insecurities in Russians. Many Russians harbor insecurities related to loss of the evil empire that was the USSR, and with that Russians idea of being / having superpower status..
Lets be honest, the Soviet Union 1922–1991 only was in word history for 69 years not much of a superpower if you only can claim 69 years in history, before you was wiped out of existence ...69 years my grandmother Bessy is older than that LOL
Or what am i not right ?????
USSR can only claim 69 years it started in 1922 and was dissolved in 1991 ....
Russians USSR a super power don't make me laugh....it was nothing more and RuSSia today still is nothing more then a evil state run by evil little people that just has some nukes under their control.. and as the cowards they are wave around themself's this weapons and shout about them to make themselves look big..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union
Russians have nothing at all to be proud of Stalin the USSR and today's Putin's Russia are and was all totalitarian states..
RuSSia and the Soviet Union was NO better then Hitlers Germany, Pol Potts Cambodia, Idi Amins Uganda, Francos Spain, Mussolini’s Italia, Gaddafi's Libya, Kim Jong-un North Korea and/ or Putins good friend Bashar Al-Assads Syria
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@danielmiller3781 Appeasement & Armageddon: Giving in to Vladimir Putin’s nuclear blackmail will spark an unprecedented nuclear arms race and make a future nuclear war far more likely!!
There is a reason why the Soviet Union, nor any nuclear power, never launched a first strike (nuclear attack) since Word War 2, despite all of the Cold War fears that the Soviets would. And it’s because you can't launch a first strike without being annihilated in the second strike. I remember in the 80s when The Day After aired, and everyone hoped the Soviets would see the movie and learn the lesson. Probably not realizing the Soviets can be trusted to act in the best self-interests...which mutually assured destruction is clearly against... and that the Soviets knew this since the 60s, if not the 50s. -- How is it any different today?
Even if Putin had the launch codes (he doesn't), or the ability to order a first strike by himself (he doesn't), even he would know the response is not going to be 'more sanctions'. -- The only way I could fathom Russia using a nuclear weapon in Ukraine, or against any enemy country, is the FSB had a foolproof plan to blame am ISIS terror cell, or rogue Chechen element, or claim the Ukrainians did it in a false-flag conspiracy to frame the Russians. -- But that would require a convincing story on how such an element got the nuclear weapon 'elsewhere', and eliminating everyone involved in the planning and execution. Whatever the case, Russia would need absolute plausible deniability. -- Here's my two cents, if there was really a way to use a nuclear weapon against an enemy without equal repercussions, Russia and China (and the US) would have figured it out a long time ago and did it already.
All NATO must do is take out Moscow and 5 -6 other city's to take out all of Russia.... But Russia must take out city's all over the planet from USA , CANADA ,FRANCE UK. ALL OF EUROPE and as far away as , AUSTRALIA and so on and so on ...
United Kingdom 225 warheads (submarine delivery systems new and up to date systems )
France 300 warheads
(submarine delivery systems new and up to date systems )
United States 7,315 warheads
(Mixed delivery systems new and up to date systems )
Russia 8,000 warheads
(Mixed delivery systems old mostly from the soviet union times NOT up to date systems )
RUSSIA IS AT DISADVANTAGE !!! and they know it Putin's regime knows its and that is why they will not use nukes they will hint and shout about nukes but that's it !!
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All NATO must do is take out Moscow and 5 -6 other city's to take out all of Russia.... But Russia must take out city's all over the planet from USA , CANADA ,FRANCE UK. ALL OF EUROPE and as far away as , AUSTRALIA and so on and so on ...
RUSSIA IS AT DISADVANTAGE !!! and they know it Putins regime knows it and that is why they will not use nukes they will hint and shout about nukes but that's it !!
The U.S. France and UK also has nuclear weapons hosting agreements for war time in Europe, and other places /countries around the world at NAOT air bases in NATO members Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Turkey among others France and the United Kingdom also have nuclear weapons hosted on based on their own outside of their countries; the nuclear defense of NATO is spread around and that makes it very very hard to take out ; Russia nuclear weapons are with the exeaption of Kaliningrad in the Baltics ONLY in Russia easy to located and take out ..(yes Russia has subs that take nukes , but so does France , UK and USA )
(Total between France USA and UK (NATO) 7840 Nuclear weapons 100% verified fictional )
(Russia 8000 climesNuclear weapons NOT verified fictional but highly likely )
WHAT fear of escalation what -is-biden talking about escalate the war ??
We can not escalate this any further than it already is, we are ALREADY at the stage where Russian solders are raping , killing civilians , and committing systematic genocide, there is no more why to escalate this situation its already at the top level of genocide !!!
And before someone starts to say nukes nukes nukes nukes .... let me tell you this; Russians like everyone else and like the soviets before them, can be trusted to understand their own best interest ...
All NATO must do is take out Moscow and 5 -6 other city's to take out all of Russia.... But Russia must take out city's all over the planet from USA , CANADA ,FRANCE UK. ALL OF EUROPE and as far away as , AUSTRALIA and so on and so on ...
United Kingdom 225 warheads (submarine delivery systems new and up to date systems )
France 300 warheads
(submarine delivery systems new and up to date systems )
United States 7,315 warheads
(Mixed delivery systems new and up to date systems )
Russia 8,000 warheads
(Mixed delivery systems old mostly from the soviet union times NOT up to date systems )
RUSSIA IS AT DISADVANTAGE !!! and they know it Putins regime knows it and that is why they will not use nukes they will hint and shout about nukes but that's it !!
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Appeasement & Armageddon: Giving in to Vladimir Putin’s nuclear blackmail will spark an unprecedented nuclear arms race and make a future nuclear war far more likely!!
There is a reason why the Soviet Union, nor any nuclear power, never launched a first strike (nuclear attack) since Word War 2, despite all of the Cold War fears that the Soviets would. And it’s because you can't launch a first strike without being annihilated in the second strike. I remember in the 80s when The Day After aired, and everyone hoped the Soviets would see the movie and learn the lesson. Probably not realizing the Soviets can be trusted to act in the best self-interests...which mutually assured destruction is clearly against... and that the Soviets knew this since the 60s, if not the 50s. -- How is it any different today?
Even if Putin had the launch codes (he doesn't), or the ability to order a first strike by himself (he doesn't), even he would know the response is not going to be 'more sanctions'. -- The only way I could fathom Russia using a nuclear weapon in Ukraine, or against any enemy country, is the FSB had a foolproof plan to blame am ISIS terror cell, or rogue Chechen element, or claim the Ukrainians did it in a false-flag conspiracy to frame the Russians. -- But that would require a convincing story on how such an element got the nuclear weapon 'elsewhere', and eliminating everyone involved in the planning and execution. Whatever the case, Russia would need absolute plausible deniability. -- Here's my two cents, if there was really a way to use a nuclear weapon against an enemy without equal repercussions, Russia and China (and the US) would have figured it out a long time ago and did it already.
All NATO must do is take out Moscow and 5 -6 other city's to take out all of Russia.... But Russia must take out city's all over the planet from USA , CANADA ,FRANCE UK. ALL OF EUROPE and as far away as , AUSTRALIA and so on and so on ...
United Kingdom 225 warheads (submarine delivery systems new and up to date systems )
France 300 warheads
(submarine delivery systems new and up to date systems )
United States 7,315 warheads
(Mixed delivery systems new and up to date systems )
Russia 8,000 warheads
(Mixed delivery systems old mostly from the soviet union times NOT up to date systems )
RUSSIA IS AT DISADVANTAGE !!! and they know it Putin's regime knows its and that is why they will not use nukes they will hint and shout about nukes but that's it !!
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