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Russian controlled Soviet Unions former satellite states like Poland, Romania,Czech Republic and The Baltic states, Slovakia ect ect ect ...couldn't wait to join NATO and the EU to get as far away from Russian hegemony control as fast as they possibly could at the time.
If the Russians weren't such malignant, belligerent a**holes, they wouldn't have to worry about, former satellite states like Poland,Romania,Czech Republic and The Baltic states, Slovakia ect ect running to and knocking at the front door of EU and NATO begging to come inn .
Eastern Europe joins NATO because they are scared of Russia and want to be independent. Nobody forced them.
Russia just showed why it was a good idea for those countries to join NATO, because if they didn't they might get invaded.
During Soviet times those countries where Russia puppet states. If they didn't join NATO then they couldn't guarantee their independence from Russia. Nato did nothing wrong, the only mistake was Ukraine not joining NATO to ensure their independence.
“For the Russian soul, liberty is not a human instinct. Liberty is a value, not a yearning. Russians yearn to be lead, yearn to be taken care of; They do not yearn to be free. The year for the dictator to take care of them like a little child yearns for his mother; a hand full of people in Russia yearn to be free, most do not."
- Sigmund Freud once said (and this goes double for Russians ) : "Most people don't want freedom. Freedom requires responsibility, and responsibility terrifies people. "
Her is a thought if every one thinks you are a bunch of malignant, belligerent a**holes and you think you are the the greatest thing since sliced bread and you are the only one that thinks that maybe you need a reality check and just maybe just maybe you are a bunch of malignant, belligerent a**holes and not the greatest thing since sliced bread
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US. and UK., gave Ukraine a guarantee of protecting Ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity based on the 1991 borders that included Crimea and east Ukraine Luhansk and Donbass..
As of the result of the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, US., gave Ukraine a guarantee that the US, stands now as a grantor of Ukraine sovereignty , because Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons and back then, Ukraine had the world's third-largest nuclear weapons stockpile !!
This guarantee was reconfirmed by United States when in 2009 released a statement that the memorandum's security assurances would still be respected after the expiration of the START Treaty
After the annexation of Crimea by in 2014, The US, Canada, the UK, France along with other countries, stated that Russian involvement was a breach of its obligations to Ukraine under the Budapest Memorandum and in violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity.
Let me explain and give some Content !!
According to the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively abandoning their nuclear arsenal to Russia and that they would:
1. Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.
2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against Ukraine.
3. Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine to influence their politics.
4. Seek immediate action to provide assistance Ukraine if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine.
6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments
We need to understand that EITHER the word/ deals and / or the grantees of the west are worth something or they are not !!
And here we can clearly see what such guarantees with the west is worth, it has been 8 years now since Russia invaded Ukraine in the east of the country and annexed parts of Ukraine in Crimea AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED so now Russia is going all inn and taking everything THE CAN!!
That is the result of worthless grantees !!
And here's something the WEST is clearly overlooking ; Taiwan , Israel and everyone else is also asking the question; CAN I TRUST THE WEST TO HOLD TO THEIR WORD AND STAND BY THE GUARANTEES THEY GIVE ! and not just Taiwan and Israel, is right now asking themselves those questions, but even small eastern European NATO member states that border Russia, will be asking themselves those questions as well !! IT'S ABOUT TRUST YOU LOSE TRUST YOU LOSE EVERYTHING!!
And her is the real kicker ; Also Iran, North Korea and China will be seeing what is going on and soon they will be thinking the west is weak; And the will be thinking and saying things like, just look what the west did when Russia was calling out their bluff about red lines in Ukraine ... The time is now, we have our chance to stick it to them !!!!
And then we will see China take Taiwan (so no more silicon-chips for you ) and then we will see Iran take Israel (middle east oil all gone and the middles east up in fire ) And when North Korea goes into South no more south Korea as north will take it over as well !!
SO YOUR OPTIONS ARE ,TO TAKE A STAND NOW OR LATER !!
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GIVING A SURRENDER IS NOT A PEACE DEAL ITS A SHAKE DOWN !!!! Anyone can make a peace deal when they surrender, which is what Trump is asking Ukraine to do.
Trump and his admin appear to be Putin's lifeline.
Its obvious what happened. A US president tried to shake down a foreign leader for mineral rights in Ukraine. The USA has abandoned its leadership role in the world and is now just for sale. The Republicans have lost their minds and perhaps their souls. Siding with Russia.
JD Vance talks about Zelensky being disrespectful and then points his finger and raises his voice TAKING talking down to Zelensky like he was som sort of child talking this way at a President of a sovereign state who is a visitor in the White House; coming to give 50% of his county natural resources and a deal that is more like a shake down than anything else after VANCE AND TRUNP has call him a dictator and never said any bad word other the praise for Putin .
I did not see Zelenskyy raising his voice. I did not see any arrogance. I saw him attempting to explain that a cease fire without guarantees would not work. He could not get a word in. The tirade of obscene fury from Trump and Vance left no room for a discussion of the issues. Trump, of course, continued lying.
In order to make peace he has to give up his country's most resourceful land.
He's a proud Ukrainian, who is tired of his people being pushed around by the Russians. Now the U.S. is trying to get their hands on the minerals.
I think when the USA have secret talks with Russia, then propose a deal that gives Russia land and The USA mineral wealth and potentially removes Zelenskyy i from office (allowing Russian puppet government or weak government) with no security guarantees offered other than Putin supposedly respecting Trump, especially when he knows that that Putin is a proven liar that breaks treaties at will, when his host in the oval office has called him a dictator and accused him of starting the war....... l think that that's gonna make Zelenskyy in a bad mood from the start.
This looks like Afghanistan again, America get involved, fund and encourage a side then leave them with their pants down.
Let's see it form this side ; See it from a different angle.
If America was invaded by its neighboring country say Mexico or Canada or Russia that borders Alaska and Russia says for historical reasons (Alaska used to be Russian ) we are taking Alaska becouse it used to be part of Russia so we are taking back ; could you imagine what America would say? will Trump and Vance and the US just let Russia take Alaska in the ints. of world peace !!???
if the rest of the world said that Mexico can just walking in as an aggressor and can take back Texas to New Mexico and all land all the way to Nevada, will US agree to that in the ints. of world peace ?? Will America agree to not be part of any pace talks and be put on the side line and just let European Union or China deal with Putin over Alaska to make peace with Russia for taking Alaska .. becouse Russia has nuclear weapons ?..
The EU goes in and asked Putin for a pace talk to make a deal on how things will be regarding Putin getting Alaska back AND THE EU TELLS the US. you don't get to come to the "pace talks"
I don't think Trump or the American people would agree to "make pace" so why would and should Ukraine agree to their country being carved up and given to Putin. Throughout this last year that's how American thought has been perceived in the West. This so called 'deal' is not a commodity to be bought or sold.
The pro PUTIN BOOT LICKERSthat are putins but boys Trump and JD saying Ukraine has to give up on wanting its land back give up on wanting the Black sea back give up on wanting the Azov sea back give up on wanting its cities back its people ; becouse its just a small bitt of landmass Russia wants so give it up ..
lets get the facts correct here 120,000 km2 of land we are talking about here ..
For the European Union that land mass will be about the same as Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg alltogether..
And for the United Kingdom we are talking about Scotland and all but of England all put together !!
When it comes to how much land that is for America South Carolina, West Virginia will have been lost !!
Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ..
FACT ; December 1974, Definition of Aggression, United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3314 (XXIX) Article 5:
1. No consideration of whatever nature, whether political, economic, military or otherwise, may serve as a justification for aggression.
2. A war of aggression is a crime against international peace. Aggression gives rise to international responsibility.
3. No territorial acquisition or special advantage resulting from aggression is or shall be recognized as lawful. (*this includes any deals on minerals made under pressure*)
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US. and UK., gave Ukraine a guarantee of protecting Ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity based on the 1991 borders that included Crimea and east Ukraine Luhansk and Donbass..
As of the result of the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, US., gave Ukraine a guarantee that the US, stands now as a grantor of Ukraine sovereignty , because Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons and back then, Ukraine had the world's third-largest nuclear weapons stockpile !!
This guarantee was reconfirmed by United States when in 2009 released a statement that the memorandum's security assurances would still be respected after the expiration of the START Treaty
After the annexation of Crimea by in 2014, The US, Canada, the UK, France along with other countries, stated that Russian involvement was a breach of its obligations to Ukraine under the Budapest Memorandum and in violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity.
Let me explain and give some Content !!
According to the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively abandoning their nuclear arsenal to Russia and that they would:
1. Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.
2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against Ukraine.
3. Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine to influence their politics.
4. Seek immediate action to provide assistance Ukraine if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine.
6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments
We need to understand that EITHER the word/ deals and / or the grantees of the west are worth something or they are not !!
And here we can clearly see what such guarantees with the west is worth, it has been 8 years now since Russia invaded Ukraine in the east of the country and annexed parts of Ukraine in Crimea AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED so now Russia is going all inn and taking everything THE CAN!!
That is the result of worthless grantees !!
And here's something the WEST is clearly overlooking ; Taiwan , Israel and everyone else is also asking the question; CAN I TRUST THE WEST TO HOLD TO THEIR WORD AND STAND BY THE GUARANTEES THEY GIVE ! and not just Taiwan and Israel, is right now asking themselves those questions, but even small eastern European NATO member states that border Russia, will be asking themselves those questions as well !! IT'S ABOUT TRUST YOU LOSE TRUST YOU LOSE EVERYTHING!!
And her is the real kicker ; Also Iran, North Korea and China will be seeing what is going on and soon they will be thinking the west is weak; And the will be thinking and saying things like, just look what the west did when Russia was calling out their bluff about red lines in Ukraine ... The time is now, we have our chance to stick it to them !!!!
And then we will see China take Taiwan (so no more silicon-chips for you ) and then we will see Iran take Israel (middle east oil all gone and the middles east up in fire ) And when North Korea goes into South no more south Korea as north will take it over as well !!
SO YOUR OPTIONS ARE ,TO TAKE A STAND NOW OR LATER !!
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GIVING A SURRENDER IS NOT A PEACE DEAL ITS A SHAKE DOWN !!!! Anyone can make a peace deal when they surrender, which is what Trump is asking Ukraine to do.
Trump and his admin appear to be Putin's lifeline.
Its obvious what happened. A US president tried to shake down a foreign leader for mineral rights in Ukraine. The USA has abandoned its leadership role in the world and is now just for sale. The Republicans have lost their minds and perhaps their souls. Siding with Russia.
JD Vance talks about Zelensky being disrespectful and then points his finger and raises his voice TAKING talking down to Zelensky like he was som sort of child talking this way at a President of a sovereign state who is a visitor in the White House; coming to give 50% of his county natural resources and a deal that is more like a shake down than anything else after VANCE AND TRUNP has call him a dictator and never said any bad word other the praise for Putin .
I did not see Zelenskyy raising his voice. I did not see any arrogance. I saw him attempting to explain that a cease fire without guarantees would not work. He could not get a word in. The tirade of obscene fury from Trump and Vance left no room for a discussion of the issues. Trump, of course, continued lying.
Does the orange man and Vance talk to Mr Putin like that.. just 2 cowards the orange man and the VP.. that clearly are wanting to kiss up to Putin for sure they have some backhand deal going on with the Kremlin ; this was staged ; question sense when does the VP every come and seat down and talk in a press meeting when to head of states are meeting the press before a conference ?? This here was an coordinated attack to make out like Zelenskyy is an unreasonable person that wants war and that Putin and Trump are the peace loving parties
In order to make peace he has to give up his country's most resourceful land.
He's a proud Ukrainian, who is tired of his people being pushed around by the Russians. Now the U.S. is trying to get their hands on the minerals.
I think when the USA have secret talks with Russia, then propose a deal that gives Russia land and The USA mineral wealth and potentially removes Zelenskyy i from office (allowing Russian puppet government or weak government) with no security guarantees offered other than Putin supposedly respecting Trump, especially when he knows that that Putin is a proven liar that breaks treaties at will, when his host in the oval office has called him a dictator and accused him of starting the war....... l think that that's gonna make Zelenskyy in a bad mood from the start.
This looks like Afghanistan again, America get involved, fund and encourage a side then leave them with their pants down.
Let's see it form this side ; See it from a different angle.
If America was invaded by its neighboring country say Mexico or Canada or Russia that borders Alaska and Russia says for historical reasons (Alaska used to be Russian ) we are taking Alaska becouse it used to be part of Russia so we are taking back ; could you imagine what America would say? will Trump and Vance and the US just let Russia take Alaska in the ints. of world peace !!???
if the rest of the world said that Mexico can just walking in as an aggressor and can take back Texas to New Mexico and all land all the way to Nevada, will US agree to that in the ints. of world peace ?? Will America agree to not be part of any pace talks and be put on the side line and just let European Union or China deal with Putin over Alaska to make peace with Russia for taking Alaska .. becouse Russia has nuclear weapons ?..
The EU goes in and asked Putin for a pace talk to make a deal on how things will be regarding Putin getting Alaska back AND THE EU TELLS the US. you don't get to come to the "pace talks"
I don't think Trump or the American people would agree to "make pace" so why would and should Ukraine agree to their country being carved up and given to Putin. Throughout this last year that's how American thought has been perceived in the West. This so called 'deal' is not a commodity to be bought or sold.
The pro PUTIN BOOT LICKERSthat are putins but boys Trump and JD saying Ukraine has to give up on wanting its land back give up on wanting the Black sea back give up on wanting the Azov sea back give up on wanting its cities back its people ; becouse its just a small bitt of landmass Russia wants so give it up ..
lets get the facts correct here 120,000 km2 of land we are talking about here ..
For the European Union that land mass will be about the same as Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg alltogether..
And for the United Kingdom we are talking about Scotland and all but of England all put together !!
When it comes to how much land that is for America South Carolina, West Virginia will have been lost !!
Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ..
FACT ; December 1974, Definition of Aggression, United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3314 (XXIX) Article 5:
1. No consideration of whatever nature, whether political, economic, military or otherwise, may serve as a justification for aggression.
2. A war of aggression is a crime against international peace. Aggression gives rise to international responsibility.
3. No territorial acquisition or special advantage resulting from aggression is or shall be recognized as lawful. (*this includes any deals on minerals made under pressure*)
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US. and UK., gave Ukraine a guarantee of protecting Ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity based on the 1991 borders that included Crimea and east Ukraine Luhansk and Donbass..
As of the result of the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, US., gave Ukraine a guarantee that the US, stands now as a grantor of Ukraine sovereignty , because Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons and back then, Ukraine had the world's third-largest nuclear weapons stockpile !!
This guarantee was reconfirmed by United States when in 2009 released a statement that the memorandum's security assurances would still be respected after the expiration of the START Treaty
After the annexation of Crimea by in 2014, The US, Canada, the UK, France along with other countries, stated that Russian involvement was a breach of its obligations to Ukraine under the Budapest Memorandum and in violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity.
Let me explain and give some Content !!
According to the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively abandoning their nuclear arsenal to Russia and that they would:
1. Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.
2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against Ukraine.
3. Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine to influence their politics.
4. Seek immediate action to provide assistance Ukraine if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine.
6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments
We need to understand that EITHER the word/ deals and / or the grantees of the west are worth something or they are not !!
And here we can clearly see what such guarantees with the west is worth, it has been 8 years now since Russia invaded Ukraine in the east of the country and annexed parts of Ukraine in Crimea AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED so now Russia is going all inn and taking everything THE CAN!!
That is the result of worthless grantees !!
And here's something the WEST is clearly overlooking ; Taiwan , Israel and everyone else is also asking the question; CAN I TRUST THE WEST TO HOLD TO THEIR WORD AND STAND BY THE GUARANTEES THEY GIVE ! and not just Taiwan and Israel, is right now asking themselves those questions, but even small eastern European NATO member states that border Russia, will be asking themselves those questions as well !! IT'S ABOUT TRUST YOU LOSE TRUST YOU LOSE EVERYTHING!!
And her is the real kicker ; Also Iran, North Korea and China will be seeing what is going on and soon they will be thinking the west is weak; And the will be thinking and saying things like, just look what the west did when Russia was calling out their bluff about red lines in Ukraine ... The time is now, we have our chance to stick it to them !!!!
And then we will see China take Taiwan (so no more silicon-chips for you ) and then we will see Iran take Israel (middle east oil all gone and the middles east up in fire ) And when North Korea goes into South no more south Korea as north will take it over as well !!
SO YOUR OPTIONS ARE ,TO TAKE A STAND NOW OR LATER !!
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JD Vance talks about Zelensky being disrespectful and then points his finger and raises his voice TAKING talking down to Zelensky like he was som sort of child talking this way at a President of a sovereign state who is a visitor in the White House; coming to give 50% of his county natural resources and a deal that is more like a shake down than anything else after VANCE AND TRUNP has call him a dictator and never said any bad word other the praise for Putin .
I did not see Zelenskyy raising his voice. I did not see any arrogance. I saw him attempting to explain that a cease fire without guarantees would not work. He could not get a word in. The tirade of obscene fury from Trump and Vance left no room for a discussion of the issues. Trump, of course, continued lying.
I think when the USA have secret talks with Russia, then propose a deal that gives Russia land and The USA mineral wealth and potentially removes Zelenskyy i from office (allowing Russian puppet government or weak government) with no security guarantees offered other than Putin supposedly respecting Trump, especially when he knows that that Putin is a proven liar that breaks treaties at will, when his host in the oval office has called him a dictator and accused him of starting the war....... l think that that's gonna make Zelenskyy in a bad mood from the start.
This looks like Afghanistan again, America get involved, fund and encourage a side then leave them with their pants down.
Let's see it form this side ; See it from a different angle.
If America was invaded by its neighboring country say Mexico or Canada or Russia that borders Alaska and Russia says for historical reasons (Alaska used to be Russian ) we are taking Alaska becouse it used to be part of Russia so we are taking back ; could you imagine what America would say? will Trump and Vance and the US just let Russia take Alaska in the ints. of world peace !!???
if the rest of the world said that Mexico can just walking in as an aggressor and can take back Texas to New Mexico and all land all the way to Nevada, will US agree to that in the ints. of world peace ?? Will America agree to not be part of any pace talks and be put on the side line and just let European Union or China deal with Putin over Alaska to make peace with Russia for taking Alaska .. becouse Russia has nuclear weapons ?..
The EU goes in and asked Putin for a pace talk to make a deal on how things will be regarding Putin getting Alaska back AND THE EU TELLS the US. you don't get to come to the "pace talks"
I don't think Trump or the American people would agree to "make pace" so why would and should Ukraine agree to their country being carved up and given to Putin. Throughout this last year that's how American thought has been perceived in the West. This so called 'deal' is not a commodity to be bought or sold.
LIKE i have said before ... Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Trump says just give up on wanting your cities, your land back your people , back ; becouse its just a small bitt of landmass anyway that Russia wants so just give it up and we all can have some peace ..
lets get the facts correct here 120,000 km2 of land we are talking about here ..
For the European Union that land mass will be about the same as Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg alltogether..
And for the United Kingdom we are talking about Scotland and all but of England all put together !!
When it comes to how much land that is for America South Carolina, West Virginia will have been lost !!
Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ..
FACT ; December 1974, Definition of Aggression, United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3314 (XXIX) Article 5:
1. No consideration of whatever nature, whether political, economic, military or otherwise, may serve as a justification for aggression.
2. A war of aggression is a crime against international peace. Aggression gives rise to international responsibility.
3. No territorial acquisition or special advantage resulting from aggression is or shall be recognized as lawful. (*this includes any deals on minerals made under pressure*)
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