Comments by "bobby hans" (@user-oc7ll9sv5r) on "Business Basics"
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Let's see it form this side ; See it from a different angle.
If America was invaded by its neighboring country say Mexico or Canada or Russia that borders Alaska and Russia says for historical reasons (Alaska used to be Russian ) we are taking Alaska becouse it used to be part of Russia so we are taking back ; could you imagine what America would say? will Trump and Vance and the US just let Russia take Alaska in the ints. of world peace !!???
if the rest of the world said that Mexico can just walking in as an aggressor and can take back Texas to New Mexico and all land all the way to Nevada, will US agree to that in the ints. of world peace ?? Will America agree to not be part of any pace talks and be put on the side line and just let European Union or China deal with Putin over Alaska to make peace with Russia for taking Alaska .. becouse Russia has nuclear weapons ?..
The EU goes in and asked Putin for a pace talk to make a deal on how things will be regarding Putin getting Alaska back AND THE EU TELLS the US. you don't get to come to the "pace talks"
I don't think Trump or the American people would agree to "make pace" so why would and should Ukraine agree to their country being carved up and given to Putin. Throughout this last year that's how American thought has been perceived in the West. This so called 'deal' is not a commodity to be bought or sold.
LIKE i have said before ... Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Trump says just give up on wanting your cities, your land back your people , back ; becouse its just a small bitt of landmass anyway that Russia wants so just give it up and we all can have some peace ..
lets get the facts correct here 120,000 km2 of land we are talking about here ..
For the European Union that land mass will be about the same as Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg alltogether..
And for the United Kingdom we are talking about Scotland and all but of England all put together !!
When it comes to how much land that is for America South Carolina, West Virginia will have been lost !!
Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ..
FACT ; December 1974, Definition of Aggression, United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3314 (XXIX) Article 5:
1. No consideration of whatever nature, whether political, economic, military or otherwise, may serve as a justification for aggression.
2. A war of aggression is a crime against international peace. Aggression gives rise to international responsibility.
3. No territorial acquisition or special advantage resulting from aggression is or shall be recognized as lawful. (*this includes any deals on minerals made under pressure*)
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Ukraine territory is a whopping 603,628 square kilometers (233,062 sq mi), Russia at one point occupied a total of 161,000 km2 (62,000 sq mi) or almost 27% of Ukraine's territory and some has been librated so now we are down to 119,000 km2
What really gets me is that some ppl. are now saying why does Ukraine not just let Russia have the areas /land it’s just a small part of Ukraine anyway.....
A small part of Ukraine ...WE ARE taking about a land mass is 119,000 km2
In EU terms thats the size of Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg all put together..
In UK terms that the size of all of Scotland and 80% of England all put together !!
In US terms is the size of South Carolina, West Virginia all put together !!
Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ...
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Some important Voltaire Quotes we need to remember in out time ..
* Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. ...
* To the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe only the truth.
And what is the truth? let's look at some facts !
Ukraine territory is a whopping 603,628 square kilometers (233,062 sq mi), Russia at one point occupied a total of 161,000 km2 (62,000 sq mi) or almost 27% of Ukraine's territory and some has been librated so now we are down to 119,000 km2
What really gets me is that some ppl. are now saying why does Ukraine not just let Russia have the areas /land it’s just a small part of Ukraine anyway.....
A small part of Ukraine ...WE ARE taking about a land mass is 119,000 km2
In EU terms thats the size of Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg all put together..
In UK terms that the size of all of Scotland and 80% of England all put together !!
In US terms is the size of South Carolina, West Virginia all put together !!
Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ...
---------It is embarrassing that the US and Europe do not support Ukraine more than they do , the US. were in Afghanistan for 20 years and achieved less than Ukraine in 2 years, and Ukraine ; And lets not forget that Russia is also a much stronger opponent with many more resources than the Taliban in Afghanistan !!
As a Norwegian I am ashamed of our policies in the west , the western nations governments use every opportunity to go on national TV and tell how much they support, but the truth is that we have only provided 94 Euros per inhabitant, it is ridiculous when we look at the size of Ukraine, the opponent and the way Russia has bombed cities in Ukraine back to the Stone Age, and that we (western nations ) have not lost a single person in the war , we are talking about Europe, democracy and freedom that Ukraine is defending , one can only be ashamed
Mr, Martin Luther King once said :
Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed.”
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GIVING A SURRENDER IS NOT A PEACE DEAL ITS A SHAKE DOWN !!!! Anyone can make a peace deal when they surrender, which is what Trump is asking Ukraine to do. Trump and his admin appear to be Putin's lifeline.
Trump is trying to force Ukraine into a capitulation a total surrender ; masquerading as a" PEACE DEAL " its not a peace deal when only one side must give up everything and the other side gets everything it wants ; and it defiantly not a peace deal when one side must give a 3rd party 50% of its natural resources and get nothing in return !!
This a MAFIA tactic it is putting a gun to someones head and telling them take this deal now; becouse either your brains or your signature will be on the document your choice !
ITS A SHAKE DOWN NOT A PEACE DEAL !!
TRUMP HAS :
- undermining democracy in the US by dismantling the division of forces (lawmaking, judiciary and executive). The core of any democracy. Clearly only benefits Russia
- tariffs hurt everybody (also US) but NOT Russia.
- creating international instability with his talks on Greenland, Canada and Panama. Typical Russian doctrine. If they fight amongst each-other, they don't focus on Russia. You just need to give them something to fight about. THIS ONLY BENEFITS RUSSIA
- his wife Melania was born and raised in communist Yugoslavia. Is she his agent handler??
Its obvious what happened. A US president tried to shake down a foreign leader for mineral rights in Ukraine. The USA has abandoned its leadership role in the world and is now just for sale.
The Republicans have lost their minds and perhaps their souls. Siding with Russia and trying to force Ukraine to accept an unjust "peace" without any security guarantees, other than you give us 50% of your natural resources rare metals your lithium, cobalt, scandium, graphite, tantalum, and niobium in Ukraine and Putin will never attack you because our companies are inside your country !!!!
WOW its was that easy all a long to scare off Putin just send American companies into Ukraine!! LOL ..... That the guarantee thats what they are now telling Zelenskyy this is what Trump and Vance are trying to sell Zelenskyy this is what they say is a security ;
WOW thats fantastic then why did the US. need to send all those weapons in the first place should have just sent in Microsoft, Ford motor company , Heinz Tomato Ketchup , Coca Cola , Mac Donalds. together with some big boys like Conoco Philips, Hecla Mining, Chevron and Goldman Sachs and last but not least The Walt Disney Company!! I hear Mickey Mouse big ears really scares Putin to death -- THEY TRYING TO PLAY UKRAINE AND FOR FOOLS SO WHO IS BEING DISRESPECTFUL HERE !!
ON A SIDE NOTE ; Following the September 11 attacks in 2001, several countries began military operations against Al-Qaeda and the Taliban during Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) in Afghanistan.
UKRAINE WAS ONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES Ukraine was with the US. for 11 years side by side back to back with US forces !!!!
Ukraine allowed use of its airspace and airbases to the US and its allies, but only for cargo flights. Ukraine was a participant in the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan and deployed troops as part of NATO's ISAF mission to the country. It contributed medical personnel supporting Provincial Reconstruction Teams, and provided instructors for NATO's Training Mission. After ISAF's mission ended in 2014, Ukraine supported the follow-on Resolute Support Mission (2015-2021) that trained, advised and assisted Afghan security forces
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GIVING A SURRENDER IS NOT A PEACE DEAL ITS A SHAKE DOWN !!!! Anyone can make a peace deal when they surrender, which is what Trump is asking Ukraine to do. Trump and his admin appear to be Putin's lifeline.
Trump is trying to force Ukraine into a capitulation a total surrender ; masquerading as a" PEACE DEAL " its not a peace deal when only one side must give up everything and the other side gets everything it wants ; and it defiantly not a peace deal when one side must give a 3rd party 50% of its natural resources and get nothing in return !!
This a MAFIA tactic it is putting a gun to someones head and telling them take this deal now; becouse either your brains or your signature will be on the document your choice !
ITS A SHAKE DOWN NOT A PEACE DEAL !!
ON A SIDE NOTE ; Following the September 11 attacks in 2001, several countries began military operations against Al-Qaeda and the Taliban during Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) in Afghanistan.
UKRAINE WAS ONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES Ukraine was with the US. for 11 years side by side back to back with US forces !!!!
Ukraine allowed use of its airspace and airbases to the US and its allies, but only for cargo flights. Ukraine was a participant in the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan and deployed troops as part of NATO's ISAF mission to the country. It contributed medical personnel supporting Provincial Reconstruction Teams, and provided instructors for NATO's Training Mission. After ISAF's mission ended in 2014, Ukraine supported the follow-on Resolute Support Mission (2015-2021) that trained, advised and assisted Afghan security forces
Let's see it form this side ; See it from a different angle.
If America was invaded by its neighboring country say Mexico or Canada or Russia that borders Alaska and Russia says for historical reasons (Alaska used to be Russian ) we are taking Alaska becouse it used to be part of Russia so we are taking back ; could you imagine what America would say? will Trump and Vance and the US just let Russia take Alaska in the ints. of world peace !!???
if the rest of the world said that Mexico can just walking in as an aggressor and can take back Texas to New Mexico and all land all the way to Nevada, will US agree to that in the ints. of world peace ?? Will America agree to not be part of any pace talks and be put on the side line and just let European Union or China deal with Putin over Alaska to make peace with Russia for taking Alaska .. becouse Russia has nuclear weapons ?..
The EU goes in and asked Putin for a pace talk to make a deal on how things will be regarding Putin getting Alaska back AND THE EU TELLS the US. you don't get to come to the "pace talks"
I don't think Trump or the American people would agree to "make pace" so why would and should Ukraine agree to their country being carved up and given to Putin. Throughout this last year that's how American thought has been perceived in the West. This so called 'deal' is not a commodity to be bought or sold.
LIKE i have said before ... Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Trump says just give up on wanting your cities, your land back your people , back ; becouse its just a small bitt of landmass anyway that Russia wants so just give it up and we all can have some peace ..
lets get the facts correct here 120,000 km2 of land we are talking about here ..
For the European Union that land mass will be about the same as Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg alltogether..
And for the United Kingdom we are talking about Scotland and all but of England all put together !!
When it comes to how much land that is for America South Carolina, West Virginia will have been lost !!
Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ..
FACT ; December 1974, Definition of Aggression, United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3314 (XXIX) Article 5:
1. No consideration of whatever nature, whether political, economic, military or otherwise, may serve as a justification for aggression.
2. A war of aggression is a crime against international peace. Aggression gives rise to international responsibility.
3. No territorial acquisition or special advantage resulting from aggression is or shall be recognized as lawful. (*this includes any deals on minerals made under pressure*)
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Understand they are NOT asked putin to leave because he has committed crimea and evil started an illegal war etc etc etc They are asking him to leave because Putin has not won and gone far enough with his war crimes !! UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE !!
Russians, always uses as an excuse: I'm not interested in politics to make out they have not supported the anything bad !!
Look at it this way ; Putin is himself a symptom of the Russian mentality; FACT ; it is Russia and Russians that made Putin NOT Putin that made Russia or Russians !!
Far from dragging his reluctant compatriots into war, Putin is himself a symptom of the Russian mentality (remember it is Russia and Russians that made Putin NOT Putin that made Russia or Russians ) the unapologetically imperialistic outlook that shapes modern Russia’s relationship with the outside world and fuels the country’s insatiable appetite for external aggression.
(Moldova, 1991
Georgia 2008
Ukraine (Crimea ) 2014 Ukraine (East Ukraine )
and now all of Ukraine 2022 ++++)
(And let's not forget historical Russian roles in 1994 Nagorno Karabakh. 1994
First Chechen War 1999 Second Chechen War 2000 Second Chechen War part 2, Kazakhstan 2022 just to mention some as there are many more )
An understanding of Russia’s imperial instincts is essential for anyone looking to make sense of the seemingly senseless war crimes currently taking place in Ukraine. After all, it was not Putin who committed rape, torture, and mass murder in towns and villages across Ukraine. Putin did not fly the jets or fire the artillery that reduced entire Ukrainian cities to rubble. Likewise, he did not personally produce the endless stream of Russian propaganda films, TV shows, fake news bulletins, and social media posts dehumanizing Ukrainians and demonizing the West. These crimes were only possible thanks to the millions of Russians who willingly participated in the process or offered their enthusiastic support over a period of many years.
While politicians and commentators in the West continue to promote the comforting notion that Russians are themselves victims of Putin’s regime, virtually all the available evidence points to strong Russian public support for the war in Ukraine.
A recent survey conducted by Russia’s only internationally respected independent pollster, the Levada Center, found that 89% of Russians back the invasion of Ukraine with just 6% somewhat disagreed and 5% strongly opposed . (NOW LET THAT SINK IN !! )
Positive Russian attitudes toward the war are rooted in longstanding perceptions of Ukraine as part of Russia’s imperial heartlands. Despite the passage of three decades since the collapse of the Soviet Union, many Russians have never fully come to terms with the idea of an independent Ukraine and continue to regard the country as an indivisible element of historic Russia that has been artificially separated from the motherland.
Putin did not invent such sentiments but he has proven highly skilled at exploiting them. In his many speeches and essays on the Ukraine issue, he has consistently appealed to Russia’s imperial aspirations while playing on widespread resentment at the country’s post-Soviet humiliations and loss of superpower status. When Putin laments the fall of the USSR as the “demise of historical Russia,” ordinary Russians understand that it is primarily Ukraine he has in mind.
UNDERSTAND-THAT Russians are and have always been psychoticnation spellbound and fascinated by the big great leader syndrome-complex it comes historically of their eurasian historical mentality and idea /ideology of what the Russians call the Ruski Mir (Russia world ) some call it the Russian soul and what they see as th "uniqueness" of the Russian national identity. ..
The Russians have now vote in Putin for-almost 20years now, they vote over and over for this sycophanticlunatic that is Putin; The Russians have no excuse they have voted him in for over 20 years now, they know how he is, why he does what he does, and what he will do; there should be no shock over what he does or does not do, the Russians know all about Putin, and they like what he does, and how he does it; And that is why they vote for him over and over and over again !!
Look at it from this way : The public had a changes back in 2008 in the election when Putin in accordance with the Russian constitution, was forbidden to run for the office of President because of the limitation of how many times a person can continually be President ; The Russian ppl. had an option of voting for the opposition cadet at the time Mr. Boris Nemstov (and not for Putins boy Demitry Medvedev,) and therefor also democracy rule of law and to become a normal country;
But did they vote for Boris?
NO no no no, they did not vote for Boris did they !!
NO they vote for Putin's puppet boy Mr. Demitry Medvedev, because that was the next best thing as voting for Putin himself !!!
And after one term in office they voted once more to reinstated Putin back as president in accordance with the constitution !! So the Russians have no excuse they are responsible for what Putin does in there name..
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@ US. and UK., gave Ukraine a guarantee of protecting Ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity based on the 1991 borders that included Crimea and east Ukraine Luhansk and Donbass..
As of the result of the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, US., gave Ukraine a guarantee that the US, stands now as a grantor of Ukraine sovereignty , because Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons and back then, Ukraine had the world's third-largest nuclear weapons stockpile !!
This guarantee was reconfirmed by United States when in 2009 released a statement that the memorandum's security assurances would still be respected after the expiration of the START Treaty
After the annexation of Crimea by in 2014, The US, Canada, the UK, France along with other countries, stated that Russian involvement was a breach of its obligations to Ukraine under the Budapest Memorandum and in violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity.
Let me explain and give some Content !!
According to the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively abandoning their nuclear arsenal to Russia and that they would:
1. Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.
2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against Ukraine.
3. Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine to influence their politics.
4. Seek immediate action to provide assistance Ukraine if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine.
6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments
We need to understand that EITHER the word/ deals and / or the grantees of the west are worth something or they are not !!
And here we can clearly see what such guarantees with the west is worth, it has been 8 years now since Russia invaded Ukraine in the east of the country and annexed parts of Ukraine in Crimea AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED so now Russia is going all inn and taking everything THE CAN!!
That is the result of worthless grantees !!
And here's something the WEST is clearly overlooking ; Taiwan , Israel and everyone else is also asking the question; CAN I TRUST THE WEST TO HOLD TO THEIR WORD AND STAND BY THE GUARANTEES THEY GIVE ! and not just Taiwan and Israel, is right now asking themselves those questions, but even small eastern European NATO member states that border Russia, will be asking themselves those questions as well !! IT'S ABOUT TRUST YOU LOSE TRUST YOU LOSE EVERYTHING!!
And her is the real kicker ; Also Iran, North Korea and China will be seeing what is going on and soon they will be thinking the west is weak; And the will be thinking and saying things like, just look what the west did when Russia was calling out their bluff about red lines in Ukraine ... The time is now, we have our chance to stick it to them !!!!
And then we will see China take Taiwan (so no more silicon-chips for you ) and then we will see Iran take Israel (middle east oil all gone and the middles east up in fire ) And when North Korea goes into South no more south Korea as north will take it over as well !!
SO YOUR OPTIONS ARE ,TO TAKE A STAND NOW OR LATER !!
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@ Ukraine territory is a whopping 603,628 square kilometers (233,062 sq mi), Russia at one point occupied a total of 161,000 km2 (62,000 sq mi) or almost 27% of Ukraine's territory and some has been librated so now we are down to 119,000 km2
What really gets me is that some ppl. are now saying why does Ukraine not just let Russia have the areas /land it’s just a small part of Ukraine anyway.....
A small part of Ukraine ...WE ARE taking about a land mass is 119,000 km2
In EU terms thats the size of Belgium, Holland, luxembourg all put together..
In UK terms that the size of all of Scotland and 80% of England all put together !!
In US terms is the size of South Carolina, West Virginia all put together !!
Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ...
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