Comments by "bobby hans" (@user-oc7ll9sv5r) on "Forbes Breaking News"
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Appeasement & Armageddon: Giving in to Vladimir Putin’s nuclear blackmail will spark an unprecedented nuclear arms race and make a future nuclear war far more likely!!
There is a reason why the Soviet Union, nor any nuclear power, never launched a first strike (nuclear attack) since Word War 2, despite all of the Cold War fears that the Soviets would. And it’s because you can't launch a first strike without being annihilated in the second strike. I remember in the 80s when The Day After aired, and everyone hoped the Soviets would see the movie and learn the lesson. Probably not realizing the Soviets can be trusted to act in the best self-interests...which mutually assured destruction is clearly against... and that the Soviets knew this since the 60s, if not the 50s. -- How is it any different today?
Even if Putin had the launch codes (he doesn't), or the ability to order a first strike by himself (he doesn't), even he would know the response is not going to be 'more sanctions'. -- The only way I could fathom Russia using a nuclear weapon in Ukraine, or against any enemy country, is the FSB had a foolproof plan to blame am ISIS terror cell, or rogue Chechen element, or claim the Ukrainians did it in a false-flag conspiracy to frame the Russians. -- But that would require a convincing story on how such an element got the nuclear weapon 'elsewhere', and eliminating everyone involved in the planning and execution. Whatever the case, Russia would need absolute plausible deniability. -- Here's my two cents, if there was really a way to use a nuclear weapon against an enemy without equal repercussions, Russia and China (and the US) would have figured it out a long time ago and did it already.
All NATO must do is take out Moscow and 5 -6 other city's to take out all of Russia.... But Russia must take out city's all over the planet from USA , CANADA ,FRANCE UK. ALL OF EUROPE and as far away as , AUSTRALIA and so on and so on ...
United Kingdom 225 warheads (submarine delivery systems new and up to date systems )
France 300 warheads
(submarine delivery systems new and up to date systems )
United States 7,315 warheads
(Mixed delivery systems new and up to date systems )
Russia 8,000 warheads
(Mixed delivery systems old mostly from the soviet union times NOT up to date systems )
RUSSIA IS AT DISADVANTAGE !!! and they know it Putin's regime knows its and that is why they will not use nukes they will hint and shout about nukes but that's it !!
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The Black Sea countries are many!! And Then Black Sea does not belong to Russia that’s a myth !!
Bulgaria, (NATO )
Romania (NATO)
Turkey (NATO)
Ukraine (NATO partner )
Georgia (NATO partner)
So in-fact ANY NATO country members navy and or air force is within their full right to sail and be within the Black Sea, as non of the Black Sea Nations (That have a real and legal int. recognized cost-line not like Russia ) have any problem with NATO ships being in their waters and even the non NATO members like Ukraine and Georgia, even more so then the NATO nations, want and are begging for more NATO ships to come and be in the BLACK SEA !
(NATO nations of the black sea are in-fact real black sea nations not like Russia stealing land then claiming to be the owner of that land and sea )
Coastline length to the black see by country/ Country Coastline length (km)
Turkey 1,329km (NATO)
Ukraine 2,782km (NATO partner )
Bulgaria 354km (NATO)
Georgia 310km (NATO partner )
Romania 225km (NATO)
AND ON A SIDE NOTE : NATO is already 500 km from Moscow via Latvia and 150 km from St, Petersburg via Estonia so the argument that NATO will get closer to Moscow if Ukraine joins NATO is BS there is 800 km from Kyiv to Moscow ..
And her is a thought .. if every neighbor you have is running to begging NATO to let them join NATO is it becouse you are such a nice and good neighbor?
Or is it because you act like a bully and are aggressive and invade your neighbor lands sending in troops and tanks
Hungary 1956,
Czechoslovakia 1968,
Poland 1980
Moldova 1990-91,
Georgia 2008,
Ukraine 2014 ++ and now all of Ukraine 2022+++
Russia eat eat eats its victims and blames its victims for eating them ...
Maybe if you act in a more nicer way, then your neighbors will liked you more and maybe your neighbors in your neighborhood will want to be around you as well ..
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NATO, Nazis, Satanists: Putin is running out of excuses for his imperial war !!
Why did Vladimir Putin invade Ukraine? The answer to this question really depends on when you’re asking. In the months leading up to the invasion, the Russian dictator focused his ire on NATO and sought to blame rising tensions around Ukraine on the military alliance’s post-Cold War expansion. As his troops crossed the border on February 24, Putin changed tack and declared a crusade against “Ukrainian Nazis.” More recently, he has sought to portray Ukraine as a “terrorist state” while insisting that Russia is in fact fighting against “Satanism.”
None of these arguments stands up to serious scrutiny. Instead, the various different narratives coming out of the Kremlin reflect Moscow’s increasingly desperate efforts to justify what is in reality an old-fashioned colonial war of imperial conquest.
Putin has long sought to use NATO expansion as an excuse for his own aggressive foreign policies. This plays well with the Russian public and also resonates among segments of the international community who believe the United States has become too dominant since the end of the Cold War. However, Putin’s attempts to position the invasion of Ukraine as a reasonable response to NATO encroachment have been comprehensively debunked by his own actions.
According to Reuters, Ukraine informed Russia during the first days of the invasion that it was ready to meet Moscow’s demands and rule out the possibility of future NATO membership, only for this offer to be rejected by Putin. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy went public in the following weeks with similar proposals to abandon Ukraine’s NATO ambitions, but Russia chose to continue its invasion.
The entire notion that Russia views NATO as a credible security threat was further undermined in summer 2022 when Moscow passively accepted neighboring Finland’s historic decision to join the military alliance. Putin has repeatedly cited Ukraine’s deepening NATO ties as justification for his invasion, but the prospect of imminent Finnish membership provoked no meaningful security response whatsoever from the Kremlin.
If Putin genuinely believed a NATO invasion of Russia was even a remote possibility, he would surely have reinforced the Finnish border. On the contrary, in the months following Helsinki’s decision to join the alliance, Russia dramatically reduced its military presence close to Finland and the nearby NATO member Baltic states in order to bolster the invasion of Ukraine. Whatever Putin may say in public, he clearly understands that NATO poses no threat to Russia.
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US. and UK., gave Ukraine a guarantee of protecting Ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity based on the 1991 borders that included Crimea and east Ukraine Luhansk and Donbass..
As of the result of the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, US., gave Ukraine a guarantee that the US, stands now as a grantor of Ukraine sovereignty , becouse Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons and back then, Ukraine had the world's third-largest nuclear weapons stockpile !!
This guarantee was reconfirmed by United States when in 2009 released a statement that the memorandum's security assurances would still be respected after the expiration of the START Treaty
After the annexation of Crimea by in 2014, The US, Canada, the UK, France along with other countries, stated that Russian involvement was a breach of its obligations to Ukraine under the Budapest Memorandum and in violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity.
Let me explain and give some Content !!
According to the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively abandoning their nuclear arsenal to Russia and that they would:
1. Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.
2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against Ukraine.
3. Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine to influence their politics.
4. Seek immediate action to provide assistance Ukraine if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine.
6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments
We need to understand that EITHER the word/ deals and / or the grantees of the west are worth something or they are not !!
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The aid is not free cash it’s the equivalent of those dollars in hardware !!!
its hardware from old equipment of military stock piles that will have been sent or about to be sent for destruction and will have been replaced anyway as its shelf life storage l is over and out dated or about to be over date !! (this way US saves money by not having to safely destroy those weapons only replace them )
The military equipment has been pulled directly from existing U.S. military old SURPLUS inventory that has a shelf date that soon will be past that date ; and will be needing replacement anyway this way US. gets to restock its military equipment with more newer updates versions and send the soon to by out of date to Ukraine and as a bonus US. military saves the money it will have used for destroying the old military equipment as well !!
Also it is true other parts of the Aid / funding will be used to purchase new weapons and this will be sent to Ukraine; but all sales must be and will be bought from the US industrial complex industry and American manufacturers; this supports local American communities in states (over 33 states ) that produce weapon's this helps marginalized communities and sates get a solid cash influx / bust into their local economy and supports jobs within the factors that will be producing those new weapons.-.
(So the money doesn't go into the pockets of Zelensky and friends thats a myth pumped out by Russian propaganda and regurgitated by "pathetic tools" of the kremlin like TuckerCarlsen or MUSK )
Members of Congress have questioned how closely the U.S. is tracking its aid to Ukraine to ensure that it is not subject to fraud or ending up in the wrong hands.
The Pentagon’s inspector general told lawmakers at a hearing, that his office has found no evidence of such corruption or wrongdoing, but cautioned that investigations are only in their early stages.
The Pentagon’s inspector general also informed the Members of Congress that despite claims to the contrary, the United States is not sending bags of unaccounted-for cash to Ukraine. Most US contributions go to military aid, including weapons and equipment made by American defense contractors who employ communities across the country. When the United States spends money to purchase military equipment as part of an international aid package, the materiel may go overseas, but the money and jobs stay in America. Similarly, appropriations for the US Foreign Military Financing program provide incentives for NATO allies and partners to secure US-made capabilities. This translates to more business for US companies and sustained employment for rural communities in which they operate.
For instance, Lockheed Martin, maker of the HIMARS—which has been central to Ukraine’s counteroffensive—plans to increase its Camden, Arkansas facility’s workforce by 20%, and recently announced increased profit projections through the end of the year. Similarly, General Dynamics has committed to building new production facilities in Mesquite, Texas, bringing money and jobs to the region. Change like this takes place only when the Pentagon sends strong and stable market signals to the defense industry, giving it the confidence to expand and hire.
In short, the numbers suggest that continued support for Ukraine is a win-win for Ukrainians and the American people.
The United States can continue to defend stability and democratic governance across the globe, while at the same time boosting American industrial output and advancing US economic interests.
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Ukraine territory is a whopping 603,628 square kilometers (233,062 sq mi), Russia at one point occupied a total of 161,000 km2 (62,000 sq mi) or almost 27% of Ukraine's territory and some has been librated so now we are down to 119,000 km2
What really gets me is that some ppl. are now saying why does Ukraine not just let Russia have the areas /land it’s just a small part of Ukraine anyway.....
A small part of Ukraine ...WE ARE taking about a land mass is 119,000 km2
In EU terms thats the size of Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg all put together..
In UK terms that the size of all of Scotland and 80% of England all put together !!
In US terms is the size of South Carolina, West Virginia all put together !!
Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ...
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THE MYTH OF RUSSIA IS A SUPERPOWER ON THE WORLD STAGE DEBUNKED !
For centuries, Russia has seen itself as one of the world's great powers.
This superpower Russia status idea myth, seen by most of the world is now become a declining idea and the world is now seeing that Russia is not and has never been any super power; More and more ppl. now understand that Russia has only been masquerading as a "SUPER POWER " the Kremlin has been presenting itself as one and hiding behind the Myth of super power status; And even for some time the kremlin themself (one can argue) started to believe in their own lies, their own myth making and their own propaganda !
BUT AFTER UKRIANE THIS MYTH IS BUSTED !!
Russia: has only $1.48 trillion annual GDP that makes Russia about the same size economically on the level of Spain if your economy is as small as Spain how can you think even for one min you are some sort of super power, that has some spacial right to be seen on the same level as UK, US , or even China ???
Let's look at some fact here: Russia is closer to Indonesia and Australia economically, than it is UK , Germany , France US or Japan .. !!
And when it comes to having nukes dose that make you a super power, well UK and France has nuclear weapons (intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBMs) as well and so does North Korea and even israel is claimed to have nuclear weapons, is North Korea or UK and France Super powers becouse they have nuclear weapons ???
1. United States: $20.89 trillion
2. China: $14.72 trillion
3. Japan: $5.06 trillion
4. Germany: $3.85 trillion
5. United Kingdom: $2.67 trillion
6. India: $2.66 trillion
7. France: $2.63 trillion
8. Italy: $1.89 trillion
9. Canada: $1.64 trillion
10. South Korea: $1.63 trillion
11. Russia: $1.48 trillion
12. Brazil: $1.44 trillion
13. Australia: $1.32 trillion
14. Spain: $1.28 trillion
15. Indonesia: $1.05 trillion
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What really gets me is that some ppl. are now saying why does Ukraine not just let Russia have the areas /land it’s just a small part of Ukriane anyway.....
A small part of Ukraine ...WE ARE taking about a land mass over 200,000 sq km
In EU terms thats the size of Belgium, Holland, and Greece all put together..
In UK terms that the size of all of Scotland , Wales and most of England
In US terms is the size of South Carolina, West Virginia and New Jersey all put together !!
Why the should Ukraine give up all that land for what to be invaded only some years later !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country
The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept to be some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda and so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ...
Eastern European countries (ex soviet countries like Poland the baltic states ect ect ..) joined NATO because they are scared of Russia and want to be and stay independent. Nobody forced them to join NATO they was the ones running and knocking and begging to be able to join NATO and the EU ,,, .
When Russia invaded Ukriane Russia then just showed why it was a good idea for those countries to join NATO, because if they didn't they might just have got invaded as well just like Ukraine and Georgia did .
During Soviet times those Eastern European countries were nothing less than Russia puppet states. If they didn't join NATO after the fall of the USSR then they for sure couldn't guarantee their own independence from Russia.
Nato did nothing wrong, the only mistake was Ukraine not joining NATO to ensure Ukraines independence; Remember former satellite states like Poland, Romania, Czech Republic and The Baltic states, Slovakia ect ect all came running by their own accord, knocking, kicking, screaming and banging at the front door of EU and NATO begging to come in, no one forced them into it .
If Russia was not such a asshole country and stoped constantly bulling neighboring countries maybe other neighboring countries will not need to join NATO and by more open and welcoming to Russia ..
Also these people who advocate this view that Ukriane shroud just give up land and appeasement to Russians wants wishes are also being very ignorant to the fact that there were already treaties in place between Russia and Ukraine where Russia respecting the integrity of Ukraine's borders plus other treaties relating to the seas around Ukraine.
Putin has already broken those treaties.
Why would Ukraine believe Putin would stick to a new treaty when he's just broken half a dozen of the previous Russia Ukraine treaties and agreements.
Russia has demonstrated its treaties and agreements are worthless and you enter them at your great peril.
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