Comments by "bobby hans" (@user-oc7ll9sv5r) on "Professor Gerdes Explains đşđŚ "
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ITÂ WASÂ RUSSIAÂ ANDÂ THEÂ NAZIÂ THATÂ STARTEDÂ WW2Â TOGETHERÂ INÂ 1939Â BYÂ INVEDINGÂ POLANDÂ ANDÂ SPLITTINGÂ ITÂ UPÂ BETWEENÂ THEMSELVESÂ "Devilsâ Alliance: Hitlerâs Pact With Stalin, 1939-1941," a book by historian Roger Moorhouse that's due out this fall.
âIn fact, the Nazi-Soviet Pact as the kick-off for World War II is probably the most surprising scenario that anyone could have imagined," Moorhouse says. "Thatâs how you have to view it from the perspective of August 1939. The world was absolutely dumbstruck by this deal.â
Those twin agreements did in fact set the stage for the start of World War II. Within days of signing the pacts, now confident that the Soviets would not oppose him, Hitler invaded Poland. Britain and France declared war on Germany, and the war was underway.
The Soviet Union invaded Poland from the east to grab its share of the spoils. In 1940 it followed up by occupying Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and the Romanian province of Bessarabia. Britain and France protested, but with their forces already taking on Germany, they couldn't afford to fight Stalin as well.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-08-21/pact-between-hitler-and-stalin-paved-way-world-war-ii-was-signed-75-years-ago
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For centuries, Russia has seen itself as one of the world's great powers.
This superpower Russia status idea myth, seen by most of the world is now become a declining idea and the world is now seeing that Russia is not and has never been any super power; More and more ppl. now understand that Russia has only been masquerading as a "SUPER POWER " the Kremlin has been presenting itself as one and hiding behind the Myth of super power status; And even for some time the kremlin themself (one can argue) started to believe in their own lies, their own myth making and their own propaganda !
BUT AFTER UKRIANEÂ THIS MYTH IS BUSTED !!
Russia: has only $1.48 trillion annual GDP that makes Russia about the same size economically on the level of Spain if your economy is as small as Spain how can you think even for one min you are some sort of super power, that has some spacial right to be seen on the same level as UK, US , or even China ???
Let's look at some fact here: Russia is closer to Indonesia and Australia economically, than it is UK , Germany , France US or Japan .. !!
And when it comes to having nukes dose that make you a super power, well UK and France has nuclear weapons (intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBMs) as well and so does North Korea and even israel is claimed to have nuclear weapons, is North Korea or UK and France Super powers becouse they have nuclear weapons ???
1. United States: $20.89 trillion
2. China: $14.72 trillion
3. Japan: $5.06 trillion
4. Germany: $3.85 trillion
5. United Kingdom: $2.67 trillion
6. India: $2.66 trillion
7. France: $2.63 trillion
8. Italy: $1.89 trillion
9. Canada: $1.64 trillion
10. South Korea: $1.63 trillion
11. Russia: $1.48 trillion
12. Brazil: $1.44 trillion
13. Australia: $1.32 trillion
14. Spain: $1.28 trillion
15. Indonesia: $1.05 trillion
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Former President, (Putin's boy) Mr . Viktor Yanukovych . After he fled to Putin with billions of stolen money the Kremlin-backed politician and his cronies (made away with $40 billion in state Ukrainian assets disappear ) the idea that he remained the legitimate head of the Ukrainian state, and therefore the manner in which he was replaced was automatically illegitimate is based on those facts that Mr. Yanukovych COMMITTED outright theft for state funds and ran off to Russia with it shows 3 things
1. It proves he was and is a Russian puppet ( its funny when Russian falsely cries foul and say zeleniski is a USA puppet)
2. He ran off by his own accord to his master in moscow abandoning his position and therefore also any legitimate claim to the office of being the president ----
3. So this facts is clear evidence there was no coup d'etat
Letâs look at Ukraineâs disgraced former president, the legitimately elected Victor Yanukovych. After Victor Yanukovych he fled to Russia the idea that he remained the legitimate head of state, and therefore the manner in which he was replaced was automatically illegitimate, was commonplace. This line of thinking was heavily promulgated by his new host country for reasons that are self-evident. But was it right, or even logical, to claim this?
The legitimacy of the Yanukovych regime indeed began with a fair election, albeit an election in which the Ukrainian people had no good choices. But could that legitimacy go on unquestioned despite the blatant grand scale theft of state resources? No. Of course it could not.
Common hooligans and thugs were brought to Kyiv by the Yanukovych authorities (first recorded on Nov. 29, 2013 when the Maydan demonstrations was just a few days old) to terrorize the residents of the capital. This acts was completely in contradiction to Article 3 of the constitution that Yanukovych was elected to uphold. It was right to question Yanukovychâs legitimacy after this.
Can the legitimacy of a ruling authority survive past the blatantly illegal adoption of laws designed to end democracy and create a dictatorship? No. Of course it cannot. Yet, this is what the Yanukovych controlled Party of Regions attempted to do on Jan. 16, 2014. Later analysis of images taken in parliament that while 235 MPs were declared to have voted for these âdictatorshipâ laws, only about half of this number of MPs were actually in the session hall when the vote was taken (by a show of hands â also illegal.)
After such clearly anti-democratic and dishonest actions, can anyone consider that authority to be legitimate? The actions were a breach of Article 5 of Ukraineâs constitution - something that Yanukovych was under oath to protect and uphold. But he failed to keep his word.
There were more violations of the constitution by Yanukovych, its supposed protector.
Article 27 of Ukraineâs constitution says that âEvery person shall have the inalienable right to life. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of life.â Yet Yuri Verbitsky, a 42 year old geologist from Lviv, was kidnapped, tortured, and murdered by forces belonging to the Yanukovych regime between Jan. 22 and Jan. 25 of 2014.
That Yanukovych had already lost any legitimacy by this point should be beyond question. Later, of course, came the deaths of many more people on Jan. 18 and then Jan. 20, after which Yanukovych fled to Russia, insisting his authority and position were still legitimate. Define legitimate.
The idea that legitimacy carries on from appointment without further question is a complete fallacy. It is something that we should refuse to accept. An elected leader most certainly can lose their legitimacy through illegal and/or unconstitutional, actions. The most recent public attempt at increasing the fog blurring the distinction between legitimately elected and legitimate comes from Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. Bottom line, they are not the same, although it is easy to see why Russiaâs ruling clan would seek to pretend that they are.
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IT WAS NOT ETHNIC RUSSIAN THAT DIED FIGHTING THE NAZIS it was Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia, Moldova Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Armenia and the other nations that was forced into the USSR and put in the front lines as cannon fodder the ethnic Russians was the NKVD cowards shooting everyone else in the backs the ethnic Russians was in the NKVD and was officers and in supply units behind the lines not getting used a cannon fodder !!
Also let us not forget the fact the it was the Stalin and RuSSia that made it possible for Hitler to build up his nazi army by giving him iron-ore and other need goods from 1939-1941 the soviet union was the strongest and most important partner of nazi Germany ..
It was only after June 1941 when Hitler turned on his good buddy Stalin and attacked the USSR that Stalin came running to the west for help and the west said yes ok we will let you fight with us they did this well knowing that Stalin helped Hitler build his army and also because the west was thinking in terms like my enemy's enemy is my friend policy and tactic
Russians living in glass houses shouldnât throw stones. I really think that the Russians arenât the ones to lecture ANYONE about fascism, or anything else for that matter, especially since RuSSians was the ones that signed the pact with the-devil [nazigermany] and started World War II⌠and even today RuSSia are still glorifying Stalin... Hitlers good buddy in 1937-1941 Hitler and Stalin started ww2 together when they invaded Poland together.
The RuZZians were the cowards who shot their own troops in the backs to press other forward infront like a human shields and canon-fodder.
YES they did shoot their own troops in the backs But they did NOT shoot ethnic Russians in the backs as most of that scum was officers and in logistics and the NKVD doing the shooting...
The ethnic Russian scum was the pathetic scummy cowards that was shooting other Soviets in the back.....
And why did this happen you ask !
Answer : Becouse Stalin did not trust Ukrainians (and other none ethnic Russians )(remember he had only 8 years before Stalin had killed 10 mill Ukrainians in a genocide called the holodomor )
So what did Stalin do before ww2 he made a purge and killed all officers of non ethnic Russians decent in the Army and replaced them with ethnic Russians and made all others that was not ethnic Russians in low level positions in other worlds as cannon fodder for the german artillery and targets for german bullets... this was the Ukrainians, Belorussians , Uzbeks , Moldovanâs ect ect ect .. this is who was fighting and geting killed this is who was fighting the-nazi-not ethnic Russians they was in the safe jobs like NKVD ect ect ect ... back in the reserve army and as administrators ect ect..
Why do you think the Kremlin always say Russians died and not soviets died ?????
They do this to cover up this facts I have stated above and for Russia to take the honor from the people who really did the fighting..Russians and Russia have no shame !!
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Let's see it form this side ; See it from a different angle.
If America was invaded by its neighboring country say Mexico or Canada or Russia that borders Alaska and Russia says for historical reasons (Alaska used to be Russian ) we are taking Alaska becouse it used to be part of Russia so we are taking back ; could you imagine what America would say? will Trump and Vance and the US just let Russia take Alaska in the ints. of world peace !!???
if the rest of the world said that Mexico can just walking in as an aggressor and can take back Texas to New Mexico and all land all the way to Nevada, will US agree to that in the ints. of world peace ?? Will America agree to not be part of any pace talks and be put on the side line and just let European Union or China deal with Putin over Alaska to make peace with Russia for taking Alaska .. becouse Russia has nuclear weapons ?..
The EU goes in and asked Putin for a pace talk to make a deal on how things will be regarding Putin getting Alaska back AND THE EU TELLS the US. you don't get to come to the "pace talks"
I don't think Trump or the American people would agree to "make pace" so why would and should Ukraine agree to their country being carved up and given to Putin. Throughout this last year that's how American thought has been perceived in the West. This so called 'deal' is not a commodity to be bought or sold.
LIKE i have said before ... Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Trump says just give up on wanting your cities, your land back your people , back ; becouse its just a small bitt of landmass anyway that Russia wants so just give it up and we all can have some peace ..
lets get the facts correct here 120,000 km2 of land we are talking about here ..
For the European Union that land mass will be about the same as Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg alltogether..
And for the United Kingdom we are talking about Scotland and all but of England all put together !!
When it comes to how much land that is for America South Carolina, West Virginia will have been lost !!
Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country".  NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom  and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ..
FACT ; December 1974, Definition of Aggression, United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3314 (XXIX) Article 5:
1. No consideration of whatever nature, whether political, economic, military or otherwise, may serve as a justification for aggression.
2. A war of aggression is a crime against international peace. Aggression gives rise to international responsibility.
3. No territorial acquisition or special advantage resulting from aggression is or shall be recognized as lawful. (*this includes any deals on minerals made under pressure*)
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Appeasement & Armageddon: Giving in to Vladimir Putinâs nuclear blackmail will spark an unprecedented nuclear arms race and make a future nuclear war far more likely!!
There is a reason why the Soviet Union, nor any nuclear power, never launched a first strike (nuclear attack) since Word War 2, despite all of the Cold War fears that the Soviets would. And its because you can't launch a first strike without being annihilated in the second strike. I remember in the 80s when The Day After aired, and everyone hoped the Soviets would see the movie and learn the lesson. Probably not realizing the Soviets can be trusted to act in the best self-interests...which mutually assured destruction is clearly against... and that the Soviets knew this since the 60s, if not the 50s. -- How is it any different today?Â
Even if Putin had the launch codes (he doesn't), or the ability to order a first strike by himself (he doesn't), even he would know the response is not going to be 'more sanctions'. -- The only way I could fathom Russia using a nuclear weapon in Ukraine, or against any enemy country, is the FSB had a foolproof plan to blame am ISIS terror cell, or rogue Chechen element, or claim the Ukrainians did it in a false-flag conspiracy to frame the Russians. -- But that would require a convincing story on how such an element got the nuclear weapon 'elsewhere', and eliminating everyone involved in the planning and execution. Whatever the case, Russia would need absolute plausible deniability. -- Here's my two cents, if there was really a way to use a nuclear weapon against an enemy without equal repercussions, Russia and China (and the US) would have figured it out a long time ago and did it already.
All NATO must do is take out Moscow and 5 -6 other city's to take out all of Russia.... But Russia must take out city's all over the planet from USA , CANADA ,FRANCE UK. ALL OF EUROPE and as far away as , AUSTRALIA and so on and so on ...
United Kingdom 225 warheads (submarine delivery systems new and up to date systems )
France 300 warheads
(submarine delivery systems new and up to date systems )
United States 7,315 warheads
(Mixed delivery systems new and up to date systems )
Russia 8,000 warheads
(Mixed delivery systems old mostly from the soviet union times NOT up to date systems )
RUSSIA IS AT DISADVANTAGE !!! and they know it Putin's regime knows its and that is why they will not use nukes they will hint and shout about nukes but that's it !!
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This is Ritter's propaganda, it's not by any means a documentary. It's some facts, mixed in with half truths and bald-face lies. Strange how he wants to paint Zelinsky into what Putin is.
Putin is the richest man in Russia. His mob is Silovicki and Oligarchs.
Ritter was once an analyst, but he is best known for being on a UN weapons inspection team.
He served there as a COUNTER INTELLIGENCE OFFICER, not an analyst! He was responsible for the security of his team, and ensuring that the Russian âescortsâ did not gain access to classified information.
He failed miserably!
He had a romantic relationship with one of the Russian âescortsâ. He divorced his wife in 1990 and they were married in 1991.
Ritter resigned his commission with the Marines. He DID NOT complete his military service and retire.
Ritter claims to be a PUNDIT and writer. He makes it very clear that he is not providing an analytic assessment with his statements. He is a pundit.
He lost access to classified information when he resigned from the military, but kept his clearance (and non-disclosure agreements). He lost his clearance with his first arrest. He is shunned by other analysts he may have once had contact with.
Now let's talk about his pedophilia.
In 2001, Scott Ritter was arrested in New York when he attempted to set up a meeting with a UNDERAGE girl so he could masturbate in front of her. He had a good lawyer. Got off with 6 months probation.
On Jan. 14, 2010, Scott Ritter was arrested in Barrett Township in the Poconos in upstate New York and charged with sexual misconduct involving minors via his use of the Internet.
The Barrett Township police stated that Scott Ritter masturbated and ejaculated in full view of a Web camera for a 15-year-old girl named Emily. He served 4yrs in prison. when it turned out the 15 year old girl was in fact a detective investigating him for pedophilia
There is also a record of a third arrest earlier, in April of 2001, but no charges were filed.
Ritter's career has been destroyed by his pedophilia.
He's turned to Russia to make money as a propagandist.
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What really gets me is that some ppl. are now saying why does Ukraine not just let Russia have the areas /land itâs just a small part of Ukriane anyway.....
A small part of Ukraine ...WE ARE taking about a land mass over 200,000 sq km
In EU terms thats the size of Belgium, Holland, and Greece all put together..
In UK terms that the size of all of Scotland , Wales and most of England
In US terms is the size of South Carolina, West Virginia and New Jersey all put together !!
Why the should Ukraine give up all that land for what to be invaded only some years later !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". Â NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country
The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom  and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept to be some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda and so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ...
Eastern European countries (ex soviet countries like Poland the baltic states ect ect ..) joined NATO because they are scared of Russia and want to be and stay independent. Nobody forced them to join NATO they was the ones running and knocking and begging to be able to join NATO and the EUÂ ,,, .
When Russia invaded Ukriane Russia then just showed why it was a good idea for those countries to join NATO, because if they didn't they might just have got invaded as well just like Ukraine and Georgia did .
During Soviet times those Eastern European countries where nothing less than Russia puppet states. If they didn't join NATO after the fall of the USSR then they for sure couldn't guarantee their own independence from Russia.
Nato did nothing wrong, the only mistake was Ukraine not joining NATO to ensure Ukraines independence; Remember former satellite states like Poland, Romania, Czech Republic and The Baltic states, Slovakia ect ect all came running by their own accord, knocking, kicking, screaming and banging at the front door of EU and NATO begging to come in, no one forced them into it .
If Russia was not such a asshole country and stoped constantly bulling neighboring countries maybe other neighboring countries will not need to join NATOÂ and by more open and welcoming to Russia ..
Also these people who advocate this view that Ukriane shroud just give up land and appeasement to Russians wants wishes are also being very ignorant to the fact that there were already treaties in place between Russia and Ukraine where Russia respecting the integrity of Ukraine's borders plus other treaties relating to the seas around Ukraine.
Putin has already broken those treaties.
Why would Ukraine believe Putin would stick to a new treaty when he's just broken half a dozen of the previous Russia Ukraine treaties and agreements.
Russia has demonstrated its treaties and agreements are worthless and you enter them at your great peril.
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It might be useful to recap some of the reason why Russia is now an outcast :
Russian interference in numerous elections and referendums in EU countries over the last decade; Russia's active disinformation campaigns across the EU;
Russian-based cyber attacks targeting numerous EU countries;
Provocative Russian military flights in and around EU and NATO airspace;
Russia's interference with GPS navigation systems in Scandinavia;
Russia's continued deployment of "peacekeepers" in Moldova despite that country's repeated requests that Russian troops be replaced with UN peacekeepers;
Russia's 2008 war against Georgia and its continued occupation of some 20 percent of Georgian territory;
Russia's 2014 annexation of Ukraine's Crimea region;
Russia's intense involvement in the war in eastern Ukraine, which the ICC in November 2016 ruled "an international armed conflict between Ukraine and the Russian Federation";
Russia's obstructionism in implementation of the Minsk agreements to end the Ukraine conflict;
Russia's role in acts of terrorism in the 2014 downing of a passenger airliner (Malaysia Airlines MH17) over Ukraine that killed 298 people;
Russia's poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko in London in 2006;
Russia's attempted assassination of former Russian spy Sergei Skripal in Salisbury in 2018;
among lots of other things to much to even list up ..
NONE OF THIS ABOVE WAS SOMETHING THE EU , THE USA OR EVEN NATO, FORCED OR TRICKED RUSSIA INTO DOING !!!
RUSSIAâS INVASION OF UKRAINE in 2014 VIOLATED INTERNATIONAL LAW:
1. The Geneva Convention.
2. Charter of the United Nations
3. The Helsinki Accords
4. The Charter of the OSCE
5. Budapest Memorandum of 1994
6. Two Russia, Ukraine friendship treaties
7. International Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Racial Discrimination
8. European Court of Human Rights
THE LEGAL FACTS WHY CRIMEA BELONGS TO UKRAINE .
The earlier published documents, and materials that have emerged more recently make clear that the transfer of Crimea from the RSFSR to the UkrSSR was carried out in accordance with the 1936 Soviet constitution, which in Article 18 stipulated that âthe territory of a Union Republic may not be altered without its consent.â The proceedings of the USSR Supreme Soviet Presidium meeting indicate that both the RSFSR and the UkrSSR had given their consent via their republic parliaments.
One of the officials present at the 19 February session, Otto Kuusinen, even boasted that âonly in our country [the USSR] is it possible that issues of the utmost importance such as the territorial transfer of individual oblasts to a particular republic can be decided without any difficulties.â One might argue that the process in 1954 would have been a lot better if it had been complicated and difficult, but no matter how one judges the expeditiousness of the territorial reconfiguration, the main point to stress here is that it is incorrect to say (as some Russian commentators and government officials recently have) that Crimea was transferred unconstitutionally or illegally. The legal system in the Soviet Union was mostly a fiction, but the transfer did occur in accordance with the rules in effect at the time.
Moreover, regardless of how the transfer was carried out, the Russian Federation expressly accepted Ukraineâs 1991 borders both in the December 1991 Belovezhskaya Pushcha accords (the agreements that precipitated and codified the dissolution of the Soviet Union) and in the December 1994 Budapest Memorandum that finalized Ukraineâs status as a non-nuclear weapons state. @PrettyGoodLookinÂ
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RUSSIAâS INVASION OF UKRAINE in 2014 VIOLATED INTERNATIONAL LAW:
1. The Geneva Convention.
2. Charter of the United Nations
3. The Helsinki Accords
4. The Charter of the OSCE
5. Budapest Memorandum of 1994
6. Two Russia, Ukraine friendship treaties
7. International Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Racial Discrimination
8. European Court of Human Rights
THE LEGAL FACTS WHY CRIMEA BELONGS TO UKRAINE .
The earlier published documents, and materials that have emerged more recently make clear that the transfer of Crimea from the RSFSR to the UkrSSR was carried out in accordance with the 1936 Soviet constitution, which in Article 18 stipulated that âthe territory of a Union Republic may not be altered without its consent.â The proceedings of the USSR Supreme Soviet Presidium meeting indicate that both the RSFSR and the UkrSSR had given their consent via their republic parliaments.
One of the officials present at the 19 February session, Otto Kuusinen, even boasted that âonly in our country [the USSR] is it possible that issues of the utmost importance such as the territorial transfer of individual oblasts to a particular republic can be decided without any difficulties.â One might argue that the process in 1954 would have been a lot better if it had been complicated and difficult, but no matter how one judges the expeditiousness of the territorial reconfiguration, the main point to stress here is that it is incorrect to say (as some Russian commentators and government officials recently have) that Crimea was transferred unconstitutionally or illegally. The legal system in the Soviet Union was mostly a fiction, but the transfer did occur in accordance with the rules in effect at the time.
Moreover, regardless of how the transfer was carried out, the Russian Federation expressly accepted Ukraineâs 1991 borders both in the December 1991 Belovezhskaya Pushcha accords (the agreements that precipitated and codified the dissolution of the Soviet Union) and in the December 1994 Budapest Memorandum that finalized Ukraineâs status as a non-nuclear weapons state. @PrettyGoodLookinÂ
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Russian Claim: NATO tried to ÂŤdragÂť Ukraine into the Alliance
The Fact: When the administrations of President Kuchma (the second President of independent Ukraine from 19 July 1994) and President Yushchenko (President of Ukraine from 23 January 2005 to 25 February 2010.) made clear their aspiration to NATO membership, the Alliance worked with them to encourage the reforms which would be needed to make that aspiration a reality and ever administration after them was in agreement with this aspiration to NATO membership until Putins boy and lapdog Mr. President Yanukovych got into power all of the membership, the Alliance work was turned around to the massive delight and joy of Moscow and Putin (President of Ukraine in 2010. He was removed from the office in the 2014 Ukrainian revolution. He currently lives in exile in Russia) .
When the administration of President Yanukovych opted for a non-bloc status, NATO respected that decision and continued to work with Ukraine on reforms, at the governmentâs request. NATO respects the right of every country to choose its own security arrangements. In fact, Article 13 of the Washington Treaty specifically gives Allies the right to leave.
Over the past 65 years, 28 countries have chosen freely, and in accordance with their domestic democratic processes, to join NATO. Not one has asked to leave. This is their sovereign choice.
Letâs look at Ukraineâs disgraced former President, (Putins boy) Mr . Victor Yanukovych . After he fled to Putin with billions of stolen money the Kremlin-backed politician and his cronies (made away with $40 billion in state Ukrainian assets disappear ) the idea that he remained the legitimate head of the Ukrainian state, and therefore the manner in which he was replaced was automatically illegitimate, was commonplace. This line of thinking was heavily promulgated by his new host country for reasons that are self-evident. But was it right, or even logical, to claim this?
The legitimacy of the Yanukovych regime indeed began with a somewhat fair election, albeit an election in which the Ukrainian people had no good other choices at the time
(NOTEÂ : Yanukovych was backed up by Moscow controlled media and corrupted elites that have dealings with the Kremlin and media inside Ukraine) .
But could that legitimacy go on unquestioned despite the blatant grand scale theft of state resources? No. Of course it could not.
Common hooligans and thugs were brought to Kyiv by the Yanukovych authorities to beat down on the students protesting Yanukovych authorities corruption (first recorded on Nov. 29, 2013when the protested was just a few days old) Yanukovych thugs mission was to terrorize the residents of the capital and beat down the students protesting Yanukovych . This act was completely in contradiction to Article 3 of the constitution that Yanukovych was elected to uphold. It was more than right to question Yanukovychâs legitimacy after this and the Ukrainian people did just that after seeing young  students getting beat up by Yanukovych imported thugs in the streets of Kyiv, this act of state terrors, enraged the people even more and other joined the students protesting Yanukovych , now demanding his removal of office.
Lets take a closer look into legitimacy of Yanukovych Presidency..
Can the legitimacy of a ruling authority survive past the blatantly illegal adoption of laws designed to end democracy and create a dictatorship? No. Of course it cannot. Yet, this is what the Yanukovych controlled Party of Regions attempted to do on Jan. 16, 2014. Later analysis of images taken in parliament that while 235 MPs were declared to have voted for these âdictatorshipâ laws, only about half of this number of MPs were actually in the session hall when the vote was taken (by a show of hands â also illegal.)
After such clearly anti-democratic and dishonest actions, can anyone consider that authority to be legitimate? The actions were a breach of Article 5 of Ukraineâs constitution â something that Yanukovych was under oath to protect and uphold. But he failed to keep his word.
There were more violations of the constitution by Yanukovych, its supposed protector.
Article 27 of Ukraineâs constitution says that âEvery person shall have the inalienable right to life. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of life.â Yet Yuri Verbitsky, a 42 year old geologist from Lviv, was kidnapped, tortured, and murdered by forces belonging to the Yanukovych regime between Jan. 22 and Jan. 25 of 2014.
That Yanukovych had already lost any legitimacy by this point should be beyond question. Later, of course, came the deaths of many more people on Jan. 18 and then Jan. 20, after which Yanukovych fled to Russia, insisting his authority and position were still legitimate. Define legitimate.
The idea that legitimacy carries on from appointment without further question is a complete fallacy. It is something that we should refuse to accept. An elected leader most certainly can lose their legitimacy through illegal and/or unconstitutional, actions. The most recent public attempt at increasing the fog blurring the distinction between legitimately elected and legitimate comes from Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. Bottom line, they are not the same, although it is easy to see why Russiaâs ruling clan would seek to pretend that they are.
 @PrettyGoodLookinÂ
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Russia has broken the deployment agreement (Strategic Offensive Reductions Treaty and the New STARTÂ (Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty of 2010) that had with NATO and the USA when Russia deploys nuclear-capable missile system in Kaliningrad back in 2018 !!! LOOK UP Russia's deployment of nuclear-capable missiles to its Kaliningrad exclave is setting off warning bells in the Baltics and at Nato.
NATO is already 500 km from Moscow via Latvia and 150 km from St, Petersburg via Estonia so the argument that NATO will get closer to Moscow if Ukraine joins NATO is BS ..
And her is a thought .. if every neighbor you have is running to and begging and wanting to join NATO is it becouse you are such a nice neighbor to be besides or is it because you act like a bully and are aggressive and invade your neighbor lands and are not the good neighbor you claim to be ... Maybe if you act in a more nicer way you be liked by your neighbors in your neighborhood and some of them maybe will want to be around you as well ..
The idea that Ukraine is the aggressor in this situation in Crimea and east Ukraine is absurd.
âItâs Russia that invaded Ukraine years ago. Itâs Russia that is the military occupier of part of Ukraine, in Crimea. Itâs Russia that, to this day, is fueling a war in eastern Ukraine. Itâs Russia that has failed to implement any of its Minsk commitments⌠Itâs Russia thatâs taken aim repeatedly at Ukraineâs democracy. And itâs Russia thatâs sending troops to Ukraineâs border, once again. All these actions are violations of Ukraineâs sovereignty and an immediate and urgent challenge to peace and stability in Europe,
And before someone comes with the Cuba nukes back in the 60s argument let me tell you this it was back in the cold war a drf. time all together and The main difference is that Castro invited Russia with their missiles to Cuba while Ukraineâs young democracy is trying to protect itself from Putinâs dictatorship!
Russia has broken the deployment agreement (Strategic Offensive Reductions Treaty
and the New STARTÂ (Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty of 2010) that had with NATO and the USA when Russia deploys nuclear-capable missile system in Kaliningrad back in 2018 !!! LOOK UP Russia's deployment of nuclear-capable missiles to its Kaliningrad exclave is setting off warning bells in the Baltics and at Nato.
Kaliningrad BORDERS Poland and Lithuania (both NATO ) so who put Nuks on the NATO/ Russian borders first Mr Putin ???
Moscowâs unwillingness to cooperate in the Kaliningrad exclave wedged between Lithuania and Poland,
* Koenigsberg, as the city of Kaliningrad was once known, was founded by Teutonic knights in the 13th Century. It was once the capital of Prussia
* Annexed by Russia from Germany after WWII. Germans fled or were expelled
* It is more than 300km away from Russia, which can only be reached through an EU country
* It houses the Russian Baltic Fleet and is the country's only ice-free European port
* The philosopher Immanuel Kant spent all his life in the city and died there in 1804
Russia's deployment of the Iskander NUKES serves multiple strategic purposes beyond the purely military. It is intended to remind the Western public - and particularly those in the Baltic republics (Lithuania Estonia , Latvia ) - of the nuclear stakes in facing up to Moscow.
It is part of the signaling in a wider information war between Russia is running towards the west , where Moscow seeks to divide the Atlantic alliance and to secure for itself the ability to do as it pleases in what it sees as its near-abroad aka hegemony states so Moscow can exploit those states for its own agenda and resorses . Thus Russian-backed forces control parts of Georgia; Russia has annexed Crimea and backs pro-Russian militias in eastern Ukraine.
The problem for Nato is that the Baltic republics, whilst once Soviet territory, are now firmly within the Western camp. It has to draw clear lines to confront Moscow's influence while trying to avoid escalating any crisis further, this is not to the Kremlins liking..
And on a side note Russiaâs violations of the Open Skies treaty, and treaty do not come in isolation and come on top of infringements of other treaties.
 @PrettyGoodLookinÂ
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Itâs almost 15 months since Putin launched this illegal war, bringing untold suffering to the innocent people of Ukraine.
Some outside Ukraine are questioning whether the free world can sustain its support and claiming that some are beginning to tire of this war; the people of Ukraine do not have that luxury. Russian aggression cannot be appeased. It must be met with strength.
We know what is happening on the ground in Ukraine and what Russia has done and will continue to do if not stoped, genocide war crimes, rape , mass graves ect ect ect .
Evidence grows of heinous war crimes â the butchery of innocent Ukrainian civilians, rape, torture, and abduction. The west and the UN must ensure that these crimes are fully investigated and that justice is done ; Putin and anyone else responsible must be personally brought to justice and answer for all the crimes Russia and Russians have committed in Ukraine..
Ukraine can and must win this war.!!! they have no other choice; If Russia stopes fighting today , the next day there will be no more war , If Ukraine stops fighting today the next day there will be no more Ukraine !!!!!!
And that is why Ukriane will never backslide however long the conflict goes on. they are and have determination to defend their land and the democratic principles Ukriane stands for will outmatch that of the aggression of Russia .
The result of Putinâs aggression so far has been to unite the free world forces;
Sweden and Finland are now joining NATO; Â
And the foolishness and criminal brutality of Putins actions, has only served to unify the EU;
It has also resulted in Germany taking the biggest rebuilding and modification of its armed forces , Air Sea and Land Forces, we have ever seen since the cold war ! ;
And if that was not enough, the same goes for all other western and eastern European countries they are also rebuilding and modifying their armed forces;
And the security focus is now on the Kremlin and no longer (at the same level ) on Asia and China, the geo political world politics focus is no turning back to European sphere of  interest and this new focus is much to the disliking and discomfort of The Kremlin .
The west is more unified and is stronger now., than it was only 6 months ago and so is in fact Ukriane â and Russia is weaker.
Allowing aggression to succeed would only bring further conflict and misery â and this war would not stop in Ukraine, Putin will see this as an opportunity to move into Moldova and then into the Baltics and Poland ..
The west must also put a STOPÂ to Russiaâs attack on global food supply and food security ; using food as a bargaining tool and weaponizing, hunger and starvation is totally unacceptable in 2022 ..
The Kremlin is blockading Ukrainian ports, shelling civilian infrastructure and preventing Ukraine from exporting it's produces. By driving up food prices and creating shortages they are punishing the worldâs poorest and most vulnerable people that are totally innocent, they haven't done anything to Russia and represent NO danger to Russia whatsoever . At the same time the Kremlin are peddling lies and disinformation, claiming that the problems are because of sanctions.
In the long run there must be consequences for Russiaâs actions; Putin must not only lose this war, he must also be denied any benefit from it. Any future aggression must be prevented and Russia must be isolated on the world stage as the Pariah Terrorist State the most currently are !!.
Ukraine must prevail â for the good of its people and to uphold the fundamental principles of sovereignty, self-determination, freedom and democracy.
 @PrettyGoodLookinÂ
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 @PrettyGoodLookin Claim: NATO is trying to encircle Russia
Fact: This claim ignores the facts of geography. Russia's land border https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borders_of_Russia is just over 20,000 kilometres long. Of that, 1,215 kilometres, or less than one-sixteenth, face current NATO members.
Russia shares land borders with 14 countries (Norway, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, China, North Korea). Only five of them are NATO members.
Outside NATO territory, the Alliance only has a military presence in two places: Kosovo and Afghanistan. Both operations are carried out with a United Nations mandate, and therefore carry the approval of Russia, along with all other Security Council members.
In contrast, Russia has military bases and soldiers in three countries â Georgia, Moldova, and Ukraine â without the consent of their governments. In fact, weâve seen new permanent deployments all along Russiaâs western border with NATO Allies, from the Barents to the Baltic Sea, and from the Black Sea to the Mediterranean.
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And Russia and Iran is behind all of this Russia is the one supporting Hamas, sending weapons and resources and have done for years Russia does this via Iran, using Iran as a puppet state a this way have possible deniability so Kremlin can send Hamas weapons and funding !!
And ppl. in the west that are pro Putin are infact all indirectly (but to stupid to understand ) supportive of all the western enemies enemies like Syria , Iran , North Korea, Hamas and even the Taliban by supporting Russia as Russia is backing them all up to the teeth !!
Ask yourself this question ; Who benefits from this destabilization right now who ???
You dont fine this strange that all this happened just right after Putin had all those massive meetings in the last months ; Putin in the last months has had personal meetings with all of the leaders of Iran , North Korea , China and even the Taliban and Hams in the last months !!! And now all we all of see that suddenly out of the blue, Hamas has all the resources it needs to go all out war with the strongest country in the middle east Hamas a little bankrupt terror org. can now go an all out attack full scale attack on Israel !!!
Ask yourself HOW IS THE POSSIBLE how did they almost over night get those resources and who benefits from all this uproar and destabilization in the middle east WHO ???
NOT ISREAL NOT IRAN NOT AFGHANISTAN NOT SYRIA NOT THE EU NOT USA NOT UK NOT CHINA NOT EVEN PALESTINE INFACT NO COUNTRY BENEFITS FROM THIS, WITH THE ONE EXCEPTION THERE IS ONE COUNTRY THAT DOES BENEFITS AND ITS RUSSIA; YES RUSSIA BENEFITS FROM THIS AND THEY REALLY BENEFIT FORM IT BIG TIME !!
RuZZia gets to have western media look another way form what RuZZia is doing inside Ukraine!!!!! Russia gets to defect the worlds attention way from the war crimes, genocide , the 10s of thousands of Ukrainian children Russian army has kidnapped in Ukriane !!!
Russia gets the world media to look another way when it comes to the fact the Putin is a wanted man that the ICC International criminal court in The Hague as issued an arrest warrant ,for war crimes and crimes against humanity including but not limited to genocide and for kidnapping of Ukrainian children and forcibly deporting them to Russia !!
Also Russia gets to make US , EU ect ect divert resources and weapons from UKRAINE to Israel; divert military intelligence resources , divert aid ect ect ect ect away from UKRAINE !!!
SO ALL YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS IS WHO BENEFITS AND HOW THEY BENEFIT !! AND YES RUSSIAN AND ONLY RUSSIA BENEFITS HERE BIG TIME !!
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Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination like a type of 2nd class country; that is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept to be some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country, that indirectly will serving the kremlins geopolitical agenda, and so Kremlin, the RuZZians and Putin can feel better about themselves ...
All the Eastern European countries has more or less joined NATO because they was scared of Russia and want make sure they will stay independent, (and the same goes for the EU financial independence ) Nobody forced Eastern European countries to join , NATO or the EU all of them came running and begging and knocking on the door of NATO and EU by themselves, asking and begging to be let into The EU and NATO !!
Russia invading Ukriane back 2014 and Georgia back in 2008 and now all out war with Ukraine from 2022++ just showed, why it was and still is a good idea for those Eastern European countries to join NATO, and the EUÂ because if they didn't they might just have got invaded as well .
During Soviet times those Eastern countries where nothing but quasi Russia puppet states and where totally exploited by Russia under under its heel and boot. If those eastern European countries didn't join NATO then they couldn't have guaranteed their own future continuous independence from Russia by themselves . Nato did nothing wrong, the only mistake was Ukraine not joining NATO to ensure their independence !!!
The former satellite states like Poland,Romania,Czech Republic and The Baltic states, Slovakia ect ect was running to and knocking at the front door of EU and NATO begging to come inn and thats the truth !! . If Russia was not such a asshole country and stoped constantly bulling neighboring countries maybe other neighboring countries will not need to join NATOÂ and by more open and welcoming to Russia ..
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THEÂ USÂ ANDÂ UKÂ WASÂ Russiaâs Life-Saver:
The USSRÂ did not win anything thats a myth infact the USSRÂ was saved by the west after Stalins good old buddy Hitler turned on his partner in crime and friend back then Stalin, remember it was the two allied Stalin and Hitler that together helped one another build up their forces and then attacked Poland tother and started ww2 in 1939 .. it was only after Hitler turned on Stalin and invaded the USSR that Stalin came crying to the west and wanted to join up forces with us and fight AGAINSTÂ Hitler ..Â
Take a look at the Lend-Lease Aid to the U.S.S.R. in World War II clear case that the program was a major factor in the survival of the Soviet Union and the victory over Nazism. A well known Russian historian says ... The Importance of Lend-Lease cannot be overestimated with out the USA the USSR will never driven Hitler out of Russia..
The importance of economic cooperation with the U.S. and Canada cannot be overestimated. According to the dollar rate of 2003, the inflation-adjusted value of these supplies amounted to $130 billion.
These supplies were critical in some key areas.
For example, in the beginning of 1942, Western tanks fully replenished Soviet losses, and exceeded them by three times. About 15 percent of the aircraft used by Soviet air forces were supplied by Allies, including the Airacobra fighter and Boston bomber.
The Allies supplied 15,000 state-of-the-art machines at that time; for example, famous Soviet ace Alexander Pokryshkin flew Airacobra, as did the rest of his squadron. He shot down 59 enemy aircraft, and 48 of them were thanks to American military equipment.
With major agricultural regions of the Soviet Union under enemy occupation, and the unsatisfactory system of distribution and transportation, to say nothing of mismanagement, the Soviet state had more than a nodding acquaintance with famine. Without Western aid, during the war the Soviet population would have been in danger of sharing the fate of those trapped in Leningrad and the earlier victims of collectivization. Even with the American aid, many Russians died from lack of food. Equally important was Lend-Leaseâs contribution to transportation. It would have been impossible for the Red Army to move the masses of troops and supplies on the primitive roads to the front lines without American Studebaker trucks, which also served as the launching pads for the dreaded Soviet rocket artillery.
Besides weaponry and food, Lend-Lease provided the Soviet Union with other resources, ranging from clothing to metals. With the start of the Cold War, Lend-Lease became a forgotten chapter in Soviet history and was only revived after glasnost. Now, thanks to Russian researchers and this excellent study, the West will have access to the real story. Lend-Lease provided vital help for the Soviet Union when the country was in desperate straits and made a significant contribution to the final victory. It also strengthened Josef Stalin, a fact that did not bother its chief architect, Franklin D. Roosevelt, who saw beyond the Allied victory and looked at Stalin as a counterbalance to the European colonial powers.
http://www.historynet.com/russias-life-saver-lend-lease-aid-to-the-ussr-in-world-war-ii-book-review.htm
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I am not american but if i was i will have been a Reagan republican myself , as far as i can see ppl like Tucker Carlsen is not a pro American he is more a pro Russian the same for the YouTube Dr Turley ...
This is what i think !!!
1. Tucker will end up working for his war-criminal wanted for genocide by the ICC The international criminal court mr Putin; Tucker will for sure be working (like he covertly has been ) for RT NEWS kremlins and Putins controlled media outlet !!
Tucker will be whitewashing genocide done by Russia in Ukriane whitewashing Putin and demonizes Ukraine for all its worth to justifyRussia's illegal invasion and annexation of its smaller neighbor...
Trying to defect you from the facts that there is only one aggressor and one victim here and that aggressor is Russia and the victim is Ukriane !!
Give it time and the slot will be back not a prob. Carlson will be forgotten like Bill O Reilly before him , yes its down now becouse the shiny baby rattle toy was taken away and the child is upset , but when the next big shine toy popes up the populace baby will forget all about it and move on with it
2, Turley knows LEAVESÂ OUTÂ facts that don't fit with his narrative and him pushing a rooting for the Kremlin / Russian Orthodox Church agenda !!
You need to understand that so called Dr, Turlry is himself a Russian Orthodox Church flower and Russian Orthodox believer and that is why he is shilling , praises Putin and Russia for pure Russian Orthodox believer religions reasons of self-interest, personal and loyalty to the Russian Orthodox Church and there expansionary agenda ..
You must also take into amount that the Kiyv Pechersk Lavra Church is in Ukriane and that the Russian Orthodox Church wants this historical monuments, within there control something they never will have if Ukriane is not under Kremlin hegemony control so that is also a factor to take into the equation .. (this is why the church help putin and much of putins political base is there )
The Kiyv Pechersk Lavra Church been a preeminent center of Eastern Orthodox Christianity in Eastern Europe since the 1051. Together with the Saint Sophia Cathedral, (also in Kyiv ) it is inscribed as a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
The religious sites of Kyiv are the equivalent for Orthodox faith believers as the Vatican is for catholics and if those are under control of the Russian Orthodox Church it gives the Russian Orthodox Church and the leaders more power base, legitimacy and therefor also more control and authority over Orthodox faithful and believers ( and also the kremlin legitimacy) as all is hanging together;
And that is WHY OUR FAITHFUL GOOD OTHTERDOX BELIEVER MR TURLY pushing the kremlin agenda and demonizes Ukraine it is highly disingenuous and in-fact unholily and immoral and in the case of The so called good Dr. Mr Turley also hypocritical as he preaches that ppl. should not be countered by other bigger powers and nationalism and self-governance and holding own culture values and believes is the way to go but not so much for UKRIANE
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GIVING A SURRENDER IS NOT A PEACE DEAL ITS A SHAKE DOWN !!!! Anyone can make a peace deal when they surrender, which is what Trump is asking Ukraine to do. Trump and his admin appear to be Putin's lifeline.
Trump is trying to force Ukraine into a capitulation a total surrender ; masquerading as a" PEACE DEAL " its not a peace deal when only one side must give up everything and the other side gets everything it wants ; and it defiantly not a peace deal when one side must give a 3rd party 50% of its natural resources and get nothing in return !!
This a MAFIA tactic it is putting a gun to someones head and telling them take this deal now; becouse either your brains or your signature will be on the document your choice !
ITS A SHAKE DOWN NOT A PEACE DEAL !!
TRUMP HAS :
- undermining democracy in the US by dismantling the division of forces (lawmaking, judiciary and executive). The core of any democracy. Clearly only benefits Russia
- tariffs hurt everybody (also US) but NOT Russia.
- creating international instability with his talks on Greenland, Canada and Panama. Typical Russian doctrine. If they fight amongst each-other, they don't focus on Russia. You just need to give them something to fight about. THIS ONLY BENEFITS RUSSIA
- his wife Melania was born and raised in communist Yugoslavia. Is she his agent handler??
Its obvious what happened. A US president tried to shake down a foreign leader for mineral rights in Ukraine. The USA has abandoned its leadership role in the world and is now just for sale.
The Republicans have lost their minds and perhaps their souls. Siding with Russia and trying to force Ukraine to accept an unjust "peace" without any security guarantees, other than you give us 50% of your natural resources rare metals your lithium, cobalt, scandium, graphite, tantalum, and niobium in Ukraine and Putin will never attack you because our companies are inside your country !!!!
WOW its was that easy all a long to scare off Putin just send American companies into Ukraine!! LOL ..... That the guarantee thats what they are now telling Zelenskyy this is what Trump and Vance are trying to sell Zelenskyy this is what they say is a security ;
WOW thats fantastic then why did the US. need to send all those weapons in the first place should have just sent in Microsoft, Ford motor company , Heinz Tomato Ketchup , Coca Cola , Mac Donalds. together with some big boys like Conoco Philips, Hecla Mining, Chevron and Goldman Sachs and last but not least The Walt Disney Company!! I hear Mickey Mouse big ears really scares Putin to death -- THEY TRYING TO PLAY UKRAINE AND FOR FOOLS SO WHO IS BEING DISRESPECTFUL HERE !!
ON A SIDE NOTE ; Following the September 11 attacks in 2001, several countries began military operations against Al-Qaeda and the Taliban during Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) in Afghanistan.
UKRAINE WAS ONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES Ukraine was with the US. for 11 years side by side back to back with US forces !!!!
Ukraine allowed use of its airspace and airbases to the US and its allies, but only for cargo flights. Ukraine was a participant in the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan and deployed troops as part of NATO's ISAF mission to the country. It contributed medical personnel supporting Provincial Reconstruction Teams, and provided instructors for NATO's Training Mission. After ISAF's mission ended in 2014, Ukraine supported the follow-on Resolute Support Mission (2015-2021) that trained, advised and assisted Afghan security forces
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GIVING A SURRENDER IS NOT A PEACE DEAL ITS A SHAKE DOWN !!!! Anyone can make a peace deal when they surrender, which is what Trump is asking Ukraine to do.
Trump and his admin appear to be Putin's lifeline.
Its obvious what happened. A US president tried to shake down a foreign leader for mineral rights in Ukraine. The USA has abandoned its leadership role in the world and is now just for sale. The Republicans have lost their minds and perhaps their souls. Siding with Russia.
JD Vance talks about Zelensky being disrespectful and then points his finger and raises his voice TAKING talking down to Zelensky like he was som sort of child talking this way at a President of a sovereign state who is a visitor in the White House; coming to give 50% of his county natural resources and a deal that is more like a shake down than anything else after VANCE AND TRUNP has call him a dictator and never said any bad word other the praise for Putin .
I did not see Zelenskyy raising his voice. I did not see any arrogance. I saw him attempting to explain that a cease fire without guarantees would not work. He could not get a word in. The tirade of obscene fury from Trump and Vance left no room for a discussion of the issues. Trump, of course, continued lying.
Does the orange man and Vance talk to Mr Putin like that.. just 2 cowards the orange man and the VP.. that clearly are wanting to kiss up to Putin for sure they have some backhand deal going on with the Kremlin ; this was staged ; question sense when does the VP every come and seat down and talk in a press meeting when to head of states are meeting the press before a conference ?? This here was an coordinated attack to make out like Zelenskyy is an unreasonable person that wants war and that Putin and Trump are the peace loving parties
In order to make peace he has to give up his country's most resourceful land.
He's a proud Ukrainian, who is tired of his people being pushed around by the Russians. Now the U.S. is trying to get their hands on the minerals.
Haven't we learned anything from the last 75 years of war?
Granted, this needs to be over fast. How bout letting them keep their minerals and write a contract to where the U.S. would have a fixed price and first dibs on what [they] need.
Trump and associates were in Moscow Nov2013 when Russia forced Ukraine leader to go against parliament decision and people's desire to have agreement with EU. This caused riots and Russia snipers shot 100+ Ukrainian protestors. Russia invaded Crimea and land access for Crimea. Shot down Malaysian airliner over Ukraine! Now we know Trump is ani-EU and pro Putin...... surprised he doesn't have ussr flag on his clown hat.....
Lets see it form this side ; See it from a different angle.
If America was invaded by its neighboring country say Mexico or Canada or Russia that borders Alaska and Russia says for historical reasons (Alaska used to be Russian ) we are taking Alaska becouse it used to be part of Russia so we are taking back ; could you imagine what America would say? will Trump and Vance and the US just let Russia take Alaska in the ints. of world peace !!???
if the rest of the world said that Mexico can just walking in as an aggressor and can take back Texas to New Mexico and all land all the way to Nevada, will US agree to that in the ints. of world peace ?? Will America agree to not be part of any pace talks and be put on the side line and just let European Union or China deal with Putin over Alaska to make peace with Russia for taking Alaska .. becouse Russia has nuclear weapons ?..
The EU goes in and asked Putin for a pace talk to make a deal on how things will be regarding Putin getting Alaska back AND THE EU TELLS the US. you don't get to come to the "pace talks"
I don't think Trump or the American people would agree to "make pace" so why would and should Ukraine agree to their country being carved up and given to Putin. Throughout this last year that's how American thought has been perceived in the West. This so called 'deal' is not a commodity to be bought or sold.
The pro PUTIN BOOT LICKERSthat are putins but boys Trump and JD saying Ukraine has to give up on wanting its land back give up on wanting the Black sea back give up on wanting the Azov sea back give up on wanting its cities back its people ; becouse its just a small bitt of landmass Russia wants so give it up ..
lets get the facts correct here 120,000 km2 of land we are talking about here ..
For the European Union that land mass will be about the same as Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg alltogether..
And for the United Kingdom we are talking about Scotland and all but of England all put together !!
When it comes to how much land that is for America South Carolina, West Virginia will have been lost !!
Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country".  NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom  and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ..
FACT ; December 1974, Definition of Aggression, United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3314 (XXIX) Article 5:
1. No consideration of whatever nature, whether political, economic, military or otherwise, may serve as a justification for aggression.
2. A war of aggression is a crime against international peace. Aggression gives rise to international responsibility.
3. No territorial acquisition or special advantage resulting from aggression is or shall be recognized as lawful. (*this includes any deals on minerals made under pressure*)
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So the question is Mr Trump wants to Stop The War or Stop Ukraine from resisting Russia's aggression and attack? And Donald Trump says nothing about how he will stop Russia.
That is, the rapist is justified and the victim of aggression is guilty. Everything is turned upside down..
GIVING A SURRENDER IS NOT A PEACE DEAL ITS A SHAKE DOWN !!!! Anyone can make a peace deal when they surrender, which is what Trump is asking Ukraine to do. Trump and his admin appear to be Putin's lifeline.
Trump is trying to force Ukraine into a capitulation a total surrender ; masquerading as a" PEACE DEAL " its not a peace deal when only one side must give up everything and the other side gets everything it wants ; and it defiantly not a peace deal when one side must give a 3rd party 50% of its natural resources and get nothing in return !!
This a MAFIA tactic it is putting a gun to someones head and telling them take this deal now; becouse either your brains or your signature will be on the document your choice !
ITS A SHAKE DOWN NOT A PEACE DEAL !!
TRUMP HAS :
- undermining democracy in the US by dismantling the division of forces (lawmaking, judiciary and executive). The core of any democracy. Clearly only benefits Russia
- tariffs hurt everybody (also US) but NOT Russia.
- creating international instability with his talks on Greenland, Canada and Panama. Typical Russian doctrine. If they fight amongst each-other, they don't focus on Russia. You just need to give them something to fight about. THIS ONLY BENEFITS RUSSIA
- his wife Melania was born and raised in communist Yugoslavia. Is she his agent handler??
Its obvious what happened. A US president tried to shake down a foreign leader for mineral rights in Ukraine. The USA has abandoned its leadership role in the world and is now just for sale.
The Republicans have lost their minds and perhaps their souls. Siding with Russia and trying to force Ukraine to accept an unjust "peace" without any security guarantees, other than you give us 50% of your natural resources rare metals your lithium, cobalt, scandium, graphite, tantalum, and niobium in Ukraine and Putin will never attack you because our companies are inside your country !!!!
WOW its was that easy all a long to scare off Putin just send American companies into Ukraine!! LOL ..... That the guarantee thats what they are now telling Zelenskyy this is what Trump and Vance are trying to sell Zelenskyy this is what they say is a security ;
WOW thats fantastic then why did the US. need to send all those weapons in the first place should have just sent in Microsoft, Ford motor company , Heinz Tomato Ketchup , Coca Cola , Mac Donalds. together with some big boys like Conoco Philips, Hecla Mining, Chevron and Goldman Sachs and last but not least The Walt Disney Company!! I hear Mickey Mouse big ears really scares Putin to death -- THEY TRYING TO PLAY UKRAINE AND FOR FOOLS SO WHO IS BEING DISRESPECTFUL HERE !!
ON A SIDE NOTE ; Following the September 11 attacks in 2001, several countries began military operations against Al-Qaeda and the Taliban during Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) in Afghanistan.
UKRAINE WAS ONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES Ukraine was with the US. for 11 years side by side back to back with US forces !!!!
Ukraine allowed use of its airspace and airbases to the US and its allies, but only for cargo flights. Ukraine was a participant in the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan and deployed troops as part of NATO's ISAF mission to the country. It contributed medical personnel supporting Provincial Reconstruction Teams, and provided instructors for NATO's Training Mission. After ISAF's mission ended in 2014, Ukraine supported the follow-on Resolute Support Mission (2015-2021) that trained, advised and assisted Afghan security forces
In order to make peace he has to give up his country's most resourceful land.
He's a proud Ukrainian, who is tired of his people being pushed around by the Russians. Now the U.S. is trying to get their hands on the minerals.
JD Vance talks about Zelensky being disrespectful and then points his finger and raises his voice TAKING talking down to Zelensky like he was som sort of child talking this way at a President of a sovereign state who is a visitor in the White House; coming to give 50% of his county natural resources and a deal that is more like a shake down than anything else after VANCE AND TRUNP has call him a dictator and never said any bad word other the praise for Putin .
I did not see Zelenskyy raising his voice. I did not see any arrogance. I saw him attempting to explain that a cease fire without guarantees would not work. He could not get a word in. The tirade of obscene fury from Trump and Vance left no room for a discussion of the issues. Trump, of course, continued lying.
I think when the USA have secret talks with Russia, then propose a deal that gives Russia land and The USA mineral wealth and potentially removes Zelenskyy i from office (allowing Russian puppet government or weak government) with no security guarantees offered other than Putin supposedly respecting Trump, especially when he knows that that Putin is a proven liar that breaks treaties at will, when his host in the oval office has called him a dictator and accused him of starting the war....... l think that that's gonna make Zelenskyy in a bad mood from the start.
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What really gets me is that some ppl. are now saying why does Ukraine not just let Russia have the areas /land itâs just a small part of Ukraine anyway.....
A small part of Ukraine ...WE ARE taking about a land mass is almost 200,000 sq km
In EU terms thats the size of Belgium, Holland, luxembourg and Greece all put together..
In UK terms that the size of all of Scotland , Wales and 80% of England all put together !!
In US terms is the size of South Carolina, West Virginia and New Jersey all put together !!
Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country".  NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom  and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ...
Eastern European countries (ex soviet countries like Poland the baltic states ect ect ..) joined NATO because they are scared of Russia and want to be and stay independent. Nobody forced them to join NATO they was the ones running and knocking and begging to be able to join NATO and the EUÂ ,,, .
When Russia invaded Ukraine Russia then just showed why it was a good idea for those countries to join NATO, because if they didn't they might just have got invaded as well just like Ukraine and Georgia did .
During Soviet times those Eastern European countries were nothing less than Russia puppet states. If they didn't join NATO after the fall of the USSR then they for sure couldn't guarantee their own independence from Russia.
Nato did nothing wrong, the only mistake was Ukraine not joining NATO to ensure Ukraines independence; Remember former satellite states like Poland, Romania, Czech Republic and The Baltic states, Slovakia ect ect all came running by their own accord, knocking, kicking, screaming and banging at the front door of EU and NATO begging to come in, no one forced them into it .
If Russia was not such a asshole country and stoped constantly bulling neighboring countries maybe other neighboring countries will not need to join NATOÂ and by more open and welcoming to Russia ..
Also these people who advocate this view that Ukraine shroud just give up land and appeasement to Russians wants wishes are also being very ignorant to the fact that there were already treaties in place between Russia and Ukraine where Russia respecting the integrity of Ukraine's borders plus other treaties relating to the seas around Ukraine.
Putin has already broken those treaties.
Why would Ukraine believe Putin would stick to a new treaty when he's just broken half a dozen of the previous Russia Ukraine treaties and agreements.
Russia has demonstrated its treaties and agreements are worthless and you enter them at your great peril.
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