Comments by "Promethiac" (@promethiac2641) on "How to instantly lose a debate" video.

Why were they talking about atheism like it's an organization? Isn't that like a book club with no books.. and no club?
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@tangodelta7809 That has nothing to do with Atheism. That is political. Atheism just means rejecting the claim of a God. Do you need Zeus to force you not to be a monster? Good people do good things, bad people do bad things. To make a good person do a bad thing requires religion or politics.
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@tangodelta7809 The yelling guy started with the classic Karen move "They are a threat to me" with absolutely no threat to be seen lol
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@Lem0nsquid Morality is a societal necessity. Not a "I'm a good person" badge. If you lived off grid and didn't interact with people, morality doesn't exist... only survival.
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@tangodelta7809 I gotcha. I just know atheism is a non practice. "Non stamp collector". It is not an ideology or belief system. I was just making that clear. I understand where the argument comes from but most of the debates that happen these days are just sore losers who can't stop selling a fallacy lol
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@moongoalie2410 No, it isn't. Having secular beliefs might be what you mean? Belief is just a fancy way of saying "I don't know so I'll make it up as I go". Atheism just means you claim there is a God, they ask for proof, you do not provide it so the default is non belief until you do. Otherwise you would believe anything. There would be God's and fairies everywhere.
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@slacksviii9824 Kind of but that is more anti theist than atheist. Atheist is just a default position. The same one you have as you do not believe every claim for every God.
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@moongoalie2410 That doesn't make any sense.. is having red hair a belief?
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@power50001562 No it doesn't.. making a claim about a God you have no evidence for is ignorant.. buying it just because it is important to you is ignorant. Is indoctrination that hard to understand?
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@jooseppielleese7156 You have absolutely no basis to believe that. You just conflate red scare nonsense with a concept you struggle to understand on purpose..You are a presuppositional apologist. I don't know the Loch ness monster doesn't exist but i'm not going to base my life around that "what if" lol
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@Klongu_Da_Bongu Guilt through association. It's how tribalism works.
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@Klongu_Da_Bongu I don't need a fantasy hierarchy to take care of myself so My business is thriving lol
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@axt2 "Confidently believing God doesn’t exist can be perceived as its own weakness"... By whom? People with a vested interest in the claim being true? You confidently do not believe in every God but 1. Why do you need a God? I know you don't.
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@Klongu_Da_Bongu Resentment towards religion is an exercise in healthy distrust. I do not enable makeshift power dynamics. If you believe Elvis is alive that is your own business.. until you bring it up under "strengths" in a job interview.
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@Klongu_Da_Bongu The point is.. this is your easter bunny world.. i'm just laughing at it.
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@axt2 A God could very much exist... I imagine if he watches us he is sick of zealots writing fan fiction about him.. or her? Or what are we talking about here? Santa is everywhere? lol
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@axt2 The confidence comes with the continued lack of evidence. Faith is indicinerble from gullibility. There is no need to claim a God doesn't exist. It's your rabbit hole to keep to yourself unless you want me to fill it in.
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@tranquilator1109 Why believe in anything just because other people do? There aren't any good points to justify the claim of a God.. so we live our lives without it. As anyone could.
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@ZombieLover84 As far as I know that doesn't apply to my "red hair" comment. Can you help me fill in the gaps there?
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@CoalCoalJames Oh, when you put it that way I give it the green light then. An authority is not a source of morality. You commanding your dog to sit is not a moral action.
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@anonymousperson1771 It leads into the abstract making claims we can't back up. Like the dancing frog that never dances when I watch. Then there is a point where anti theism comes in. Like "even if there is a God he is a terrible father"... We could be a simulation for all I know. I think there is a pendulum swing for just about anything. haha
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@Sianostrakarenrenren Sounds like organized religion in general lol
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@ZombieLover84 I meant mountain man.. solo. You are right and wrong. Morality is an evaluation between the well being of at least two different outcomes. When you are in a society morality is essentially getting to the bottom of the best outcome as both sides would hold a selfish bias. Religion doesn't cut it because there is no way to solve a moral conflict if both people are of the same religion and cannot agree on a commandment or example of altruism and find the best outcome.
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@ZombieLover84 I read your other comment after my rant lol
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@CoalCoalJames It's a quote from Steven Weinberg.. it's not an airtight claim. A better resolution would be to name one thing that is morally "good" that you can't do without it.
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@anonymousperson1771 Sure.. I just don't think it needs all the other crap to go with it. Is it the God you are in favor of? Probably not lol
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@malcolm_in_the_middle Like a basic understanding that morality is not a tangible thing? It means "fits in your comfort zone" to you apparently. You assume every single behavior not validated by Leviticus is an abuse of something sacred? Funny.. None of you seem to follow any of it.
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@afatfrog5533 A society does.. it's trial and error as leaning on Commandments from a God that may or may not exist is a little flimsy.. especially when you realize no one actually follows them.. even the most judgmental. Rules for thee.
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@malcolm_in_the_middle Then what is your point? I don't know that i'm not supposed to put words in your mouth. These conversations are so friggin old now. You think i don't know where the rabbit hole leads? A bunch of presuppositions no one can really bring evidence for.. but it sure repeats doesn't it?
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@JonathanVachon777 ... did you watch the video? It's the classic "atheism" is responsible for atrocity argument that has been thrown around for decades. It's a logical fallacy
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@ovichggat Atheism is the default position of non belief. It is the same position you hold for every God but one. What if the real God is Xenu?
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@tear728 That is called anti theism. Marxism/Communism is just a strawman to keep us in quagmire conflicts. Marxism... though it may offend you is the concept that we are a living satire.. Take a step back and see that we are. Not bending the knee is a middle finger to an authority no one can see. Skepticism is the only tool I know to avoid other people's rabbit holes.
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@power50001562 I'm not dodging anything. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the burden of proof. Why would I need to disprove a claim? Isn't that the person making the claim dodging their responsibilities in backing up that claim?
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@malcolm_in_the_middle That wouldn't be morality as you wouldn't be acting as a moral agent. It would be giving a man a fish knowing only you care about consequences. It's not hard to understand what reaping and sowing means. I get it, non belief is a luxury of those who tore out the roots of indoctrination.. often with the help of hallucinogenic drugs. The issue is they end up finding middle ground in mysticism... which is the same "not learning to fish" dynamic.
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@afatfrog5533 Awesome... I reject your premise due to it characterizing atheism as anything but the absence of a belief in God. It has nothing to do with anything else. I do not need an authority. It's called self governance.
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@afatfrog5533 At best you are saying "my religion is good because other religions are bad." They are all just exclusive social clubs.. like a country club. You either pay to get in or you don't. With more than just money.
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@afatfrog5533 Man is a crap moral authority... alone! It's why we convene to shake it out to get the answers together.. not you to lord over people with.
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@diddlenfiddle7311 Good/bad is a construct. What is good for some might not be good for others.
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@theprophet9428 Choose non conformity in an idiocracy. We need to stop trying to make people dance to our own drum. It's an uphill battle to nowhere.
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@ovichggat God is a presupposition and a placeholder for information. We used to have God's to fill in the gaps of knowledge. Like Dionysus.. until we figured out Agriculture. We are down to one God who simply fills in as a placeholder for life's great mysteries. Acting like you know.. when you don't really know? Sounds like sales.
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@jordannewman177 I'm anti theist... it means that even if there is a God, I want nothing to do with it.
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