Comments by "Ggoddkkiller" (@ggoddkkiller1342) on "Triumph u0026 Treachery: The (Staggering) Sieges of Nicosia and Famagusta | War of Cyprus 1570-1573" video.

  1. For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...
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  2. For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...
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  3. The guy came out of his cave just after Ottoman golden era ended lmao...
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  4. For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...
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  5. For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...
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  6.  @gwarfanatik  Do you believe the Algerian genocide was a real event committed by French nationalists? Yes or no?
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  7.  @gwarfanatik  It is 100% related if you can manage to answer it ofc and don't worry i will explain it all..
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  8.  @radec5166  You asked for a source and here is your source but you can't read it for obvious reasons!! You jokes could believe whatever you want but it won't change the truth...
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  9. For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...
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  10.  @m1812Z  Everything you don't like is propaganda for you, right?
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  11. For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...
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  12. For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...
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  13. For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...
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  14. For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...
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  15. Exactly, he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...
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  16.  @superlegomaster55  Ottoman used so many different flags and banners even Turkish historians have no idea how many there were exactly😂 Modern Turkish flag became official Ottoman flag in 1840 but known it had been used centuries before that. Crescent and star combination is more of a Turkic thing and many Turkic countries used it from Mamluks to Ghaznevids. Basicly every Ottoman sultan was making his own flag and commander his own banner, even soldiers were decorating themselves with different colours. For example Janissaries didn't wear same colour clothes nor only white feathers rather it was like rainbow..
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  17. Ottoman used Turk/Turkish in every way possible it is just western fantasy that they refused their Turkish identity, in fact EVERY Ottoman sultan used Khan title for 600 years. For example Suleiman the magnificient was officially called Sultan Suleiman Khan!! However it is true Ottoman never ever discriminated against other Muslims and officially there was no Turkish, Arabic etc nation rather only Muslims. So it is again false they called themselves ''Ottomans'', the term doesn't even exist in Turkish rather they simply called themselves Muslims...
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  18. For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...
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  19. For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...
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  20. For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...
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  21. Every Ottoman soldier carried a curved blade called Kilij but it was back up weapon while most used weapon by far was spears and pikes. Maces were also used quite a lot against armored opponents. So a Janissary would carry at least two weapons with him constantly and also his shield and choose depending on situation. There was no obligation to carry a spesific weapon rather they were free to choose as they see fit..
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  22. For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release. He answered as they all weren't his prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners. He answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject but he couldn't be more wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order that shall Baragdin die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose were cut and few days later he was executed by skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today. While European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...
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  23.  @dubbyx8490  Here you go my friend, my paragraphing might be bad but at least i don't try to manipulate history and push a narrative)
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  24. For obvious reasons you forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...
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