Comments by "Ggoddkkiller" (@ggoddkkiller1342) on "Avdiivka Has Fallen. Can Ukraine Still Win?" video.
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@geofflepper3207 This what happens if you learn ''history'' from BSpedia and don't bother to fact check anything you read! Here are some historical facts for you to reduce your ignorance a bit:
1- In 1914 there were around 10 million Turks living if not less while Greek population was 6 million and Armenian population was 4.5 million. So whole ''peaceful Greeks and Armenians were targeted by Turks'' is nothing but a modern lie, they really believed they could defeat Turks and they were the ones attacking.
2- When Russian empire invaded entire eastern Anatolia in late 1914 Ottoman wasn't even controlling majority Armenian territories anymore. While Russians encouraged remaining Armenians to rebel against the empire. Read the manifesto of Kajaznuni who was the first prime minister of Armenia and living in Van province of Ottoman during WW1. He openly admits they were a Russian proxy and began preparations for their rebellion even before Ottoman joined WW1. He even adds Turks wanted to confer but they refused believing they were going to win! The side who wanted to genocide other wants to confer, care to explain how exactly that happened? To suppress their rebellion Ottoman displaced Armenian population far away from front lines with Russian empire where they were getting their arms and supplies. Even Kajaznuni himself says if they didn't rebel as a Russian proxy perhaps they weren't going to be targeted..
3- Russian empire surrendered against Germany in WW1 but not against Ottoman and there were many battles one after another even few weeks before WW1 ended. Ottoman managed to push them back from Anatolia and even cleared entire Caucasus from Russian soldiers in late 1918 only few weeks before surrendering to Brits and French. This is how all Caucasus countries could declare their independence in 1918. But ofc Entente powers invaded Anatolia from every side, they occupied Constantinople, southeastern Anatolia by Brits and French, western Anatolia by Greeks and Italians. Then they tried to force treaty of Sèvres upon Turks which still got refused by Turkish revolutionaries despite their terrible odds and war broke out in every corner of Anatolia. Like it is not enough even Armenia declared war on Turkey in 1920 for their second round but got defeated within few months and Turks ''genocided them again''..
4- Even according ENTENTE sources over 300,000 Muslim civilians got killed by so called ''harmless and peaceful'' Greeks and Armenians during those wars and their attempts to capture back their ''historical lands''. While Muslim population of Anatolia dropped from 13 million in 1914 to 10.5 million in 1922! Im not a wicked person trying to benefit suffering of his ancestors so i won't claim ridiculous genocide claims especially while there were over 500,000 military casualties at least. Spanish flu was also devastating killing hundreds of thousands, there was general lack of food, medicine and other supplies which also claimed many lives. But it is safe to say your ''genocided poor'' friends killed at least 500,000 innocent people. And if they could win the war they were going to kill way more people. So nope, we aren't genociders only because we could win the war especially while they were the ones who declared those wars not us..
So every coin has two sides learn to check other side if you want to know the truth. Especially Kurdish genocide is such a moronic claim as Kurds always has been enjoying more rights in both Ottoman and Turkey than for example African Americans had in US until recent history. Want to talk about those Jim crow laws? What about enslavement and killings of millions in western colonies? What about Aboriginal children taken away and even killed in mass in Canada or Australia until again recent history, huh?? Such wicked actions never ever happened in Anatolia not only against Kurds no ethnicity at all but somehow we have committed genocides not you ''lily-white'' westerners!! Just get lost and read some history books...
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@geofflepper3207 This what happens if you learn ''history'' from BSpedia and don't bother to fact check anything you read! Here are some historical facts for you to reduce your ignorance a bit:
1- In 1914 there were around 10 million Turks living if not less while Greek population was 6 million and Armenian population was 4.5 million. So whole ''peaceful Greeks and Armenians were targeted by Turks'' is nothing but a modern lie, they really believed they could defeat Turks and they were the ones attacking.
2- When Russian empire invaded entire eastern Anatolia in late 1914 Ottoman wasn't even controlling majority Armenian territories anymore. While Russians encouraged remaining Armenians to rebel against the empire. Read the manifesto of Kajaznuni who was the first prime minister of Armenia and living in Van province of Ottoman during WW1. He openly admits they were a Russian proxy and began preparations for their rebellion even before Ottoman joined WW1. He even adds Turks wanted to confer but they refused believing they were going to win! The side who wanted to genocide other wants to confer, care to explain how exactly that happened? To suppress their rebellion Ottoman displaced Armenian population far away from front lines with Russian empire where they were getting their arms and supplies. Even Kajaznuni himself says if they didn't rebel as a Russian proxy perhaps they weren't going to be targeted..
3- Russian empire surrendered against Germany in WW1 but not against Ottoman and there were many battles even few weeks before WW1 ended. Ottoman managed to push them back from Anatolia and even cleared entire Caucasus from Russian soldiers in late 1918 only few weeks before surrendering. This is how all Caucasus countries could declare their independence in 1918. But ofc Entente powers invaded Anatolia from every side, they occupied Constantinople, southeastern Anatolia by Brits and French, western Anatolia by Greeks and Italians. Then they tried to force treaty of Sèvres upon Turks which was still refused by Turkish revolutionaries despite their terrible odds and war broke out in every corner of Anatolia. Like it is not enough even Armenia declared war on Turkey in 1920 for their second round but got defeated within few months and ''they got genocided again''..
4- Even according ENTENTE sources over 300,000 Muslim civilians got killed by so called ''harmless and peaceful'' people during those wars and their attempts to capture back their ''historical lands''. While Muslim population of Anatolia dropped from 13 million in 1914 to 10.5 million in 1922! Im not a wicked person trying to benefit suffering of his ancestors so i won't claim ridiculous genocide claims especially while there were over 500,000 military casualties at least. Spanish flu was also devastating killing hundreds of thousands, there was general lack of food, medicine and other supplies which also claimed many lives. But it is safe to say your ''genocided poor friends'' killed at least 500,000 innocent people. And if they could win the war they were going to kill way more people. So nope, we aren't genociders only because we could win the war especially while they were the ones who declared those wars not us!! It is so beyond ridiculous while we were the defensive side westerners could even act like we were the aggressors and not thinking sheeps blindly follow the narrative like you..
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@geofflepper3207 This what happens if you learn ''history'' from BSpedia and don't bother to fact check anything you read! Here are some historical facts for you to reduce your ignorance a bit:
1- In 1914 there were around 10 million Turks living if not less while Greekpopulation was 6 million and Armenianpopulation was 4.5 million. So whole ''peaceful people were targeted by Turks'' is nothing but a modern lie, they really believed they could defeat Turks and they were the ones attacking.
2- When Russian empire invaded entire eastern Anatolia in late 1914 Ottoman wasn't even controlling majority Armenian territories anymore. While Russians encouraged remaining Armenians to rebel against the empire. Read the manifesto of Kajaznuni who was the first prime minister of Armenia and living in Van province of Ottoman during WW1. He openly admits they were a Russian proxy and began preparations for their rebellion even before Ottoman joined WW1. He even adds Turks wanted to confer but they refused believing they were going to win! The side who wanted to genocide other wants to confer, care to explain why? To suppress their rebellion Ottoman displaced them far away from front lines with Russian empire where they were getting their arms and supplies from. Even Kajaznuni himself says if they didn't rebel as a Russian proxy perhaps they weren't going to be targeted..
3- Russian empire surrendered against Germany in WW1 but not against Ottoman and there were many battles even few weeks before WW1 ended. Ottoman managed to push them back from Anatolia and even cleared entire Caucasus from Russian soldiers in late 1918 only few weeks before surrendering. This is how all Caucasus countries could declare their independence in 1918. But ofc Entente powers invaded Anatolia from every side, they occupied Constantinople, southeastern Anatolia by Brits and French, western Anatolia by Greeks and Italians. Then they tried to force treaty of Sèvres which was still refused by Turkish revolutionaries despite their terrible odds and war broke out in every corner of Anatolia. Like it is not enough even Armenia declared war in 1920 for their second round but got defeated within few months and ''they got genocided again''..
4- Even according ENTENTE sources over 300,000 Muslim civilians got killed by so called ''harmless and peaceful'' people during those wars and their attempts to capture back their ''historical lands''. While Muslim population of Anatolia dropped from 13 million in 1914 to 10.5 million in 1922! Im not a wicked person trying to benefit from suffering so i won't throw ridiculous claims around some others do especially while there were over 500,000 military casualties at least. Spanish flu was also devastating killing hundreds of thousands, there was general lack of food, medicine and other supplies which also claimed many lives. But it is safe to say your ''genocided poor friends'' killed at least 500,000 innocent people. And if they could win the war they were going to kill way more people. So nope, we aren't genociders only because we could win the war especially while they were the ones who declared those wars not us!! It is so beyond ridiculous while we were the defensive side westerner narrative could even claim we were the aggressors and not thinking sheeps blindly follow the narrative like you..
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