Comments by "Ggoddkkiller" (@ggoddkkiller1342) on "The Tragic Sinking Of The Destroyer Kocatepe By Air Strike, 1974" video.

This was the largest amphibious assault operation since Korean war and still the largest to this day! Vast majority of countries don't even have capacity to carry such an operation and ofc Turkish armed forces weren't entirely ready neither. Especially coordination between commands was seriously lacking and TAF heavily relying on their own intel caused the incident. It was a failure without any question but bringing up training like such friendly-fire incidents don't happen at all with proper training is just laughable. Care to share how many times such friendly-fire incidents happen during US operations despite getting top-notch, world class training?? There were incidents US planes attacked US ships during Vietnam war too even if Vietnam had no navy too speak of. And not only US destroyers were attacked even USS Boston was targeted which was a massive guided-missile cruiser! Only God knows how exactly 'perfectly trained' US pilots thought USS Boston was a Vietnamese ship while Turkish pilots at least had some reasons to believe it was Greek ships. The friendly-fire trend of US never even ended, in both Iraq and Afghanistan there were dozens of incidents and literally hundreds of casualties despite their 'perfect training', right?..
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@sixstringedthing Nice quibble but if we act honestly for a change US has been investing by far the most into their conbined operations training. And if even they have been failing so miserably perhaps it isn't about training, huh? I've never suggested your message was about US military rather tried to emphasize this fact but i guess i wasn't clear enough. So it is not 'training issue' because even 'the best' does it, in fact US army was way worse in Iraq and Afghanistan. Abrams shooting at and destroying friendly vehicles constantly. Turkish army also involved into fair amount of conflicts but there isn't a single rogue tank incident yet despite receiving 'poor training'..
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This was the largest amphibious assault operation since Korean war and still the largest to this day! Vast majority of countries don't even have any capacity to carry such an operation and ofc Turkish armed forces weren't entirely ready neither. Especially coordination between commands was seriously lacking and TAF heavily relied on their own intel and caused the incident. In Turkish sources TAF pilots reported back the ships had Turkish flags and markings but TAF high command still ordered them to strike. They had no intel of Turkish ships being in the area and Greece could easily show their same destroyers as Turkish. But ofc they should had contacted the navy instead, at least after this incident coordination between commands was greatly increased. It was a failure without any question but claiming 'NATO's defense in the region wasn't so good' could be only a joke. Care to share how many times such friendly-fire incidents happen during US operations? There were incidents US planes attacked US ships during Vietnam war too even if Vietnam had no navy to speak of. And not only US destroyers were attacked even USS Boston was targeted which was a massive guided-missile cruiser! Vietnamese navy didn't even have a ship half size of USS Boston so only God knows how exactly US pilots thought it was a Vietnamese ship. The friendly-fire trend of US never even ended, in both Iraq and Afghanistan there were dozens of incidents and literally hundreds of casualties so i guess US isn't really capable of defending NATO, right?..
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@talha6852 Aynen biz bir hata yaptık mı hemen başlıyorlar, yok eğitimleri rezalet yok koordinasyonları leş gibi eleştirmeye. Kendi yaptıkları hataları söyleyince böyle kayboluyorlar hemen ahaha. Dönerse Abramslar nasıl birbirlerini patlatıp durdular ondan bahsedecem ama döneceğini sanmam. Irakta bir faciaları var, tek olayda 5 Abrams 5 Bradley patlatmışlar, abi siz ne yapıyorsunuz sonra utanmadan 'her şeyin başı eğitim' çekiyorlar, kendinizi eğitin önce..
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