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Comments by "Ggoddkkiller" (@ggoddkkiller1342) on "Iraq's $17BN Suez Canal Rival" video.
@dawn_alex A lot of Indian companies will continue using Suez canal or even choose Iraq-Turkey route as they would only unload once. IMEC is just a political joke it will never carry goods in large scale even compared to Iraq-Turkey route. There is a reason why everybody built or still building mega ports as unloading costs a lot as it requires more manpower than anything else. So unloading at Arabia than loading again in Israel then unloading again in Greece is just stupid, it will cost far more than Suez fees..
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@dawn_alex A lot of countries showed interest about Eastmed too, what happened at the end? If it is not economically feasible this kind of 'great projects' are nothing but political nonsense. Eastmed was always doomed to fail as gas price was going to be much more expensive than even Azerbaijani or Turkmen gas, so nobody invested into the project. Same goes for IMEC, it doesn't make slightest sense and will be more expensive than using Suez or even going around Africa. Iraq-Turkey > Europe route will be cheaper than going around Africa for sure but not Suez most likely. And if Suez has problems like now it would be heavily used. Also it will be cheaper than Suez for Iraqi, Iranian etc regional products to reach Europe so there will be some usage for sure. IMEC isn't good for even regional usage as Arabic countries don't have any production capacity at all. For example Turkey produces more steel than not just gulf countries, rather entire Arabic union combined. It is just another 'genius' project from saudi prince which is doomed to fail..
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Turkey owns EXACTLY 16.529 wagons that 11.899 of them over 50 tons size! So if they can not carry 40ft containers, care to explain what are they doing with so many wagons exactly?? You are so severely underestimating Turkish rail network capacity which has dozens of lines all over Turkey already with literally THOUSANDS of tunnels to reduce height differences. Only Iraqi section will be newly built and it is almost entirely flat country. Also there won't be any container transfers, trains will join Turkish network and continue into Europe. The project is entirely feasible and beneficial but there are too much false information going around. It will remain dwarfed with Suez canal ofc, it is just stupid to claim they even compete..
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@jacquesmertens3369 TCDD is government owned mate not a private company. You can enter and look exactly what they have and i quoted those wagon numbers from their website. So i don't have a funny idea at all rather you are completely clueless what you are talking about. Same goes for claiming it will take decades to build, i guess you are confusing Turkey with Germany and their never ending airport construction? Or perhaps you confuse it with US and their Honolulu rail line which is only 20 miles long and somehow can't be finished, huh?? If you still need to refresh your memory i can quote more western projects ongoing for decades with their budget increasing many times. You try to talk from your high horse but your horse isn't so high anymore mate, take a deep breath and look down to see its state.. If we return to the real world from your lala land, the construction already began and building rail lines in a flat country doesn't take long. Neither Turkish construction sector is known for delays, from massive airports to bridges and two dozen high speed train lines all were finished within planned time frame. Even if those lines required hundreds of tunnels to be built, just don't try it in the west! This project isn't even slightly hard for Turkish construction sector and will be finished as planned. So see you in 2028 and we would talk about how many containers being carried again then..
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@dawn_alex Yep, you have no idea about Iraq's geography. Terrorist strongholds are in mountainous region of Iraq mate around 200 km away from where these rail lines will pass. Turkey also has the strongest military in the region which is capable of defending it. At last part you are just speculating Iran-Europe relations aren't as bad as Iran-US relations. In fact there are even some European countries defending sanctions against Iran are harmful! So there is nothing blocking Iran using this rail network to export their products to Europe cheaply.
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@dawn_alex Sure, sure mate, you are just ridiculous. And a tip for you, if you are going to like your own comments at least wait 10 minutes or so don't like it as soon as you post them, jeez..
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Turkey is a partner, Iran can't do anything at all. In case you have no idea Turkish army actually killed dozens of revolutionary guards in Syria, did you see any protest from Iran? To be fair, Turkey wasn't exactly targeting them rather assadists and they got in crossfire including several dozen wagners too. Turkey never apologized nor they protested in any way as it would put them in collision course with Turks..
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Ruling party of Kurdistan, KDP is a Turkish ally since 1994 when Turkey intervened and stopped Kurdish civil war in their favor. And there are more than a dozen Turkish bases in KDP territory, both training Peshmarga and providing security. So even if this project passes through Kurdistan it will pass through KDP territory where there are many Turkish bases already and ruling forces are allies..
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There were some wrong information, Turkey already has a vast rail network which carries cargo from east to west into Europe. So Iraq route will be connected to it and cargo will reach Europe without any additional steps. Turkey has oil pipelines between Kirkuk and Mersin as shown in the video, they just confused it with new rail network. More of Iraqi oil could be carried into Mersin via pipelines and loaded into tankers from Mersin in Mediterranean which would be far more beneficial for Iraq than loading tankers in Arabian gulf as tankers have to pass through Suez. I've never heard Iraqi high speed trains were so fast, even our own high speed network doesn't reach 200 miles a hour so most probably that's false information too. Our high speed trains don't use cargo lines neither, i don't know there they learned that it would be just too costly to maintain. So either their high speed trains will be around 100 miles top and use cargo lines or there will be high speed network built too. The project is 100% liable and beneficial, not a political one at all. And it will 100% happen as the construction is ongoing in many parts. So it isn't a joke project like IMEC or eastmed which will never happen..
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@Akbansal-sw8bn Turkey has over 400 armed TB-2, Anka, Kızılelma, Akıncı, etc drones mate which can operate over 24 hours. This isn't US trying to defend Suez canal from 10,000 miles away rather Iraq is a neighbor of Turkey and there are already 15 Turkish bases inside Iraq while drones are always operating. If they try something they would pay for it, also it is very easy to repair train tracks it could be done within hours. Also hundreds of billions worth cargo won't pass here, even Turkish companies can insurance them. The idea that a land based route can challenge Suez canal is just a fantasy, Suez will remain dozens of times larger no matter what..
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@Akbansal-sw8bn Going around Africa would be way cheaper than using IMEC so nope it will never be an economically viable route expect gulf countries alone. But their production is very limited, for example both Turkey and Iran each produce more steel than not just gulf countries rather entire Arabic union combined! So IMEC is nothing but a political nonsense, never will be built nor used..
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Ruling party/tribe of Kurdistan, KDP is a Turkish ally since 1994 when Turkey intervened and stopped Kurdish civil war in their favor. After 1991 invasion of Iraq there was a power vacuum in northern Iraq and Kurdish tribes began fighting each others. There were two main forces KDP and PUK, PUK was Iran-backed. With Iranian weapons they began defeating KDP that nobody was supporting. The civil war continued for years while KDP desperately trying to hold ground, then PKK terrorist organization joined PUK as well. Turkey which couldn't allow terrorists against them gaining more power invaded northern Iraq in 1994 with 60,000 soldiers, therefore ended the civil war in favor of KDP. Since then KDP is a Turkish ally and there are more than a dozen Turkish bases in KDP territory both training Peshmerga forces and providing security. So it is just a cheap lie "Turkey has rocky relationship with Kurds", and the reality on ground is complex. KDP / Barzani tribe controls majority of Kurdistan including capital Erbil while PUK / Talabani tribe controls northeastern Kurdistan with second largest city Suleymaniyah. PKK is a terrorist organization mainly exists in northern mountainous region. They were also active in PUK territory in the past but PUK recently banned them in an attempt to fix relations with Turkey. So even if this project passes through Kurdistan it will pass through KDP territory where there are many Turkish bases already and ruling forces are allies..
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