Comments by "Ralph Bernhard" (@ralphbernhard1757) on "BBC"
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The reason to get as far away from a sinking ship, is not only to 'get away from the propellers', as mentioned here.
A sinking ships is an unpredictable mass, which behavior cannot be predicted. Any small piece breaking or falling off the heeling ship, could fall on your head and knock you unconscious. When ships sink, pieces often break off.
The chances of being smashed by the chimney stack breaking off, or by another crew member jumping on top of you, or a loose piece of cargo falling down, or by the ship keeling over and being smashed by the superstructure, etc., is much larger than 'being sucked down', as is often mentioned in movies or docs.
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British elites did not advocate war "because of Belgium", but because of a policy the lords in London had decided upon loooong before the Kaiser was "building ships", and "wanted colonies".
https://www.britannica.com/topic/balance-of-power
A policy called Balance of Power, which practically dictated that GB would always join the weaker side, irrelevant of "right or wrong", and the only way GB could have realistically stayed out of the continental war about to unfold, was to abstain from the selfappointed role of "balancer" for the continent.
It was British leaders, deciding in London, and this free choice had nothing to do with anything any continental leaders did, or didn't do.
Why did GB join WW1?
As simple as asking "Would GB have stayed out, under any circumstance?" To which the answer is no.
The choice of making an entire people an enemy by default, long before they had even done anything to deserve the status of "enemy", had far reaching effects...
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The biggest long-term contributing factor for WW1 was the west's attacks on the Ottoman Empire.
Under constant threat of attack at the fringes (Libya, Egypt, Balkans, etc.), the Ottomans were looking for a protector in Europe and found one in Wilhelm II.
A strong alliance would have protected the Ottoman Empire from further western aggression.
Paris and St. Petersburg wanted to avoid this, at all costs...
For a close alliance between Berlin-Vienna-Budapest-Constantinople to become effective, land access was a prequisite...
Pesky Serbia was in the way, and gave Vienna a perfect pretext for war, by supporting a terrorist organisation (The Black Hand).
Just imagine, if the Ottoman Empire had simply been left alone, in peace, to develop or fall apart naturally...
As always, the vultures of history cause wars by their own actions.
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@Yuri DeKhedBelgium was a pretext for war for the British Empire.
British leaders had the choice to avoid the German implementation of Schlieffen Plan, but chose not to.
British leaders, at the time, knew that Germany had no interest in a war with GB.
In fact, they would even have changed the Schlieffen Plan, and honored Belgian neutrality, if only GB would agree to stay out of the war.
The British stance on Belgium was that "if Belgium was invaded, GB would declare war".
Therefore, logically, the following is also true: "If Germany did not invade Belgium, GB would stay out of the war". Correct?
Germany therefore approached British leaders, stating just that.
Peace for Belgium, in return for a guarantee that GB would stay out of the continental European war about to start (after Russian mobilisation).
Foreign minister Grey refused, stating that GB reserved the right to join the war at any future point in time.
That clearly proves that "Belgian neutrality" in August 1914 was a pretext.
British leaders had it in their hands to save Belgium, but chose not to.
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@aswfabt Not "triggered" yet?
Seeing how most of the comments are slogans and appeals to emotion, I'll just jump into the fray ;-)
For hundreds of years, the British Empire went around the world bomb(ard)ing and terrorizing nations around the world. Not a week goes by and some new attrocity is unearthed: for example, search "The Bombardement of Alexandria in 1882" (then click on "images"). When they invaded half the planet, their "heroes" wrote stories about how exiting it was to "dodge bullets". The locals defending their own? Pfffft. Nobody cared...
Famines accompanied by racial slurs of "breeding like rabbits anyway", sticking women and kids into concentration camps, scorched earth policies, torture chambers, slave labor camps (called "penal colonies"), and terror bombing innocents called Air Policing...
No doubt getting a bit of their own medicine when their own cities burned down, and V-2s killed their kids, and they finally knew what it felt like. Not so "exiting" dodging rockets, right? Not so nice "reaping" what had been "sown" for a few hundred years, eh?
Brits are nice today, but back then they simply had to be taught a lesson they wouldn't forget.
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