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Comments by "Rob McCune" (@robm6645) on "2 of David's Professors on "Radical Professor Watch List"" video.
I have to wonder how many of the free speech crowd will say there is nothing wrong with monitoring academia for subversive thoughts and considering you guilty by association.
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***** Don't give that post-modernist bullshit, Brietbart is a terrible news source built on a lot of outrage and very few facts. Sorry but there is a real world out there that is not just like your opinion man.
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***** So the fact his show only promotes one view point on one topic doesn't change the fact that there are tons of differing views on his show? Is this orwellianism or a religion I'm dealing with here?
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DelusionaryKiller The thing with Rubin and "differing views" is that he only asks his guests questions on topics they all agree on. Larry King on the other hand talked about all kinds of different topics, from politics to economics, world affairs and pop culture, society, science, etc. Rubin invites equally diverse experts to ask them some veriation of "Don't those dirty liberal SJWs piss you off?" and strangely enough the answer is never anything like "No" or "a little, but there are more important things in the world," or "I can see where they are coming from but I disagree."
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***** You're still talking about 15%-20% of his show, I'm talking about the remaining 80 some percent. In his early show it was close to 90%, this is not a minor gripe about a few episodes here and there. Also your analogy doesn't really hold up, or even make consistent sense. First off, there are a number of SJWs who are bigger names than most of his guests, you may not like them, but if he spends most of his time talking about their ideology then he should invite them on. David Pakman bashes conservatives day in and day out, but he still has them on the show. Secondly if SJWs were too marginalized and fringe to actually put on the show why would they deserve so much talk time from the very same show? If their not important enough to have on the show then why does he devote so much time to it?
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***** I was hoping for some opposition who actually had pretensions of being a serious thinker and not a troll.
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***** I don't see how you can use that logic, if you're arguing that Universities teach legitimate subjects and do not teach illegitimate subjects than doesn't that defeat your own assertions about what should and should not be taught? After all Universities do teach it, and since education is their business wouldn't they know better than you?
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Senad Elezovic Not really comparable, the average Nazi alive today is a skinhead who wants to overthrow the government beat up minorities. Can you show any of these marxists actually want to engage in violence or overthrow the government?
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Senad Elezovic And how does this bad idea kill people? Please don't resort to magical thinking
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***** If someone is telling me self contradictory nonsense, the first question I ask is if it's orwellian or religious. For instance if you can't see that "he only hears one side of the argument, but he hears all sides of that one side" is ludicrous on the face of it, there is something seriously wrong here. I mean your other defense is that he focuses on non-sjw topics like "liberals coddle Islam" and antifeminisim where he interviews alt-rightists and alt-centrists about it isn't much better.
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Senad Elezovic So you have innuendo and fear mongering. I'm not surprised. Its easy to find a Nazi who wants to recreate the work of Adolf Hitler, but you have to look pretty hard to find a Marxist who wants to recreate Josef Stalin.
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Senad Elezovic I'm not a Marxist so I can't tell you. However most communist governments took power in response to some combo of bad government and foreign invasion
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Senad Elezovic Actually I can't tell you because I don't know what the full Marxist program is and I am actually humble enough to admit it. Unlike yourself who thinks Stalin represent all marxists, and if you put smart people and experts in power the first thing they will do is go around killing people. To you the marxist program is 1.) teach students 2.) ??? 3.) Profit and maybe some genocide. The fact is there have been plenty of capitalist dictators who have also been massive human rights violators, but you probably don't care that much about it because they weren't marxists.
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Zebarbas That's because you're a sane person.
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Zebarbas Ok then, you're a deluded maniac with one redeeming quality and that is you actually practice what you preach.
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Senad Elezovic You're not actually explaining why this happens, you're just saying it's magic. I actually have an explanation that you haven't debunked, and that is marxists take over when the population is brutalized. Lenin overthrew the Czar during WWI. Castro overthrew the dictator Fulgencio Batista who had overthrown a constitutional democracy. Ho Chi Minh came to power fighting against the French and conquered South Vietnam in part because there was already a rebellion against Diem. Pol Pot took power after after the U.S. spread the Vietnam War outside of Vietnam including massive bombing campaigns in Cambodia. Mao and Kim Il-sung took power after the end of the Japanese occupations of their countries. All that time there were Marxists in the United States, the UK, France, and Italy who sat around in coffee shops and didn't hurt anybody. Explain that without resorting explanations about how Capitalism was invented by God and other such nonsense.
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Senad Elezovic 1. First your own article contradicts what you wrote. Second I'm not arguing for or against marxism, I just don't think we should treat professors as enemies of the state as you started arguing. 2. Yes, but the point was the country was already going to shit when the communists took over. That's the point, it's a reaction to a bad situation. It still happens, just the reaction doesn't call itself marxists, and people still die in droves, even if it's a capitalist country. 3. Thanks for giving a real explanation that connects the dots for once.
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***** Education, business administration, engineering, computer science, economics, history, mathematics and statistics are not science and all those are taught at universities. You seem to think (or maybe you're just not thinking) that Universities are the same thing as national laboratories, they are not.
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***** That is the biggest non sequitur ever.
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***** If you can prove the distributive property of all real numbers by experiment be my guest. Just so you know, with real numbers it will take you a very long time to get from 0 to 1. Also what hypothesis testing can you apply historical accounts in Thucydides or Plutarch? For that matter how do you scientifically prove or disprove Gibbon's "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire?" Who did that experiment?
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