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Comments by "Rob McCune" (@robm6645) on ""Bernie or Bust" Makes No Sense" video.
Clicking the unsub button is more effort than you're actually going to expend to change anything.
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Are you going to link to his video after every atrocity Trump commits?
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Timefliesbye He's going to kill the families of ISIS. He's going to deport U.S. citizens if their parents aren't U.S. citizens. He's going to invade Syria and take the oil. He's going to bring back torture worse than it was under Bush. And that just off the top of my head.
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She's going into office with high unfavorables and a pissed off activated progressive movement of course she'll follow up on a lot of her policies. Doing anything else is suicide, this is why Bernie tried to box her in with the platform fight.
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Exactly, Bernie or Bust means you get feel incredibly smug as you do jack shit to help anything Bernie believes in or stands for.
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David Stewart It's pretty obvious, America is an empire that commits atrocities.
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You're not going to create progressive change by destroying anything, you only create progressive change by building alternatives and gathering popular support. Destroying the democratic party does neither, and the institutions to do so don't exist at the moment. Building a strong movement that puts pressure on the democratic party including pressure from within the party, which Bernie Sanders has done, is the only way forward.
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Brandon Casey You must be high as fuck.
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Trump is only going to cause long term pain. The only message the establishment is going to get out of a Trump presidency is that they need to adopt authoritarian right wing populism. The only reason Bernie Sanders even had a chance was because people were sick of Obama's centrism, after 1 or 2 terms of Trump they will be begging for Establishment Democrats back. Trump resets left wing progress back to 2008 and does a shit ton of damage that the next non-Republican is going to have to undo.
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When asked about the Trump phenomenon, Bernie responded with compassion and told Trump supporters that they had a right to be angry, but that they should focus their anger against the people who are actually responsible and work to fix the situation. Now he should probably make a similar to speech to the minority of his supporters who have the political maturity of teenagers.
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Which is about as effective as Bernie or Bust. A purely symbolic act of lazy bullshit designed to make yourself feel better and won't change a damn thing.
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CitizenofDystopia Oh, well then what are you doing to actually change things?
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CitizenofDystopia Bernie's revolution is going to require activism and mobilizing people. What ever you are doing, I hope it's that.
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Ironically these lazy ass busters are making Bernie Sanders' peaceful revolution impossible because they won't lift a finger to change things.
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They come from the same place most of David's dislikes come from, idiot assholes on the internet who think they are liberals because they are to the left of Ted Cruz and laughed at G. W. being an idiot.
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Viking 2016 How about you fuck off, it's the real ideological commitment you people have.
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+Dude mx69 It's a corrupt war hawk neocon country.
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Just like Bernie or Bust, unsubbing is just some bullshit that will give you a smug sense you accomplished something while doing nothing to actually help. In fact it's being done specifically because you're too lazy to do anything that would actually help.
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TwelveNation Outside of the Bernie campaign what else have you done? What else are going to do? How are going to change things if you're not going to vote?
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TwelveNation Well at least you're going to vote and get involved with local politics. There is a fight for 15 group in Florida FYI. A lot of Bernie or Busters aren't going to do anything and expect things to change. Still not sure I like ideological purity test tho.
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TwelveNation What you have the right to do and what is the right thing to do are two very different things. If your only reason for doing something is that you have the right to do it you don't have a very good argument. If you're a Bernie supporter and you're not working within the system with the lesser of two evils and you're not working outside the system to create a voice for good, then you're betraying what he represents.
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Why is it sad? They're all smart people who are doing the common sense thing.
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David Stewart It's not random, it's playing the odds. Most Bernie activists I've spoken to are voting Clinton, but looking for ways to gain power in the democratic party. Other than phone banking or giving money to Bernie and only Bernie, buster did nothing before Bernie came along and will do nothing when he returns to the senate. But since you're responding, what's your plan?
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David Stewart I don't agree with Pakman on a number of things. If I were this pissy I would have unsubbed over his Phillipe Assouline videos in the lead up to the Iran deal. Yet here I am over 1 year later. Btw what's your plan to bring about the revolution? Wait for a savior to descend from the sky?
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You mean he's the lesser of two evils because his fucking awful leadership will destroy the evil American Empire?
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Stealth Opinions Makes sense. I'm a Hillary detractor and I'm already a hung sexist.
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