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Comments by "Rob McCune" (@robm6645) on "Will SJW/Liberal Split Result in Permanent Division? Question" video.
Andrew Voronov That is progress, we've gone from denial to bargaining pretty quickly. Short answer is no, anyone who has watched the Republican Party since 2008 has clearly seen something like this coming. Establishment candidates have been seriously threatened extreme challengers all though out that period of time. John McCain feeling the need to pick Sarah Palin as his VP, Rick Santorum winning states in 2012, the rise of the Tea party, it's all these same people who are voting for Trump feeling on an instinctual gut level that Republican politicians are not one of them. Trump support is a response to attitude that Jeb simply can't satisfy. The trait that most accurately predicts whether someone is or isn't a Trump supporter is an authoritarian personality. That is what is driving Trump's success. These people have been "sick of political correctness" since before you were born.
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Andrew Voronov Middle aged republicans have been watching loud mouth idiots on Fox News and Talk Radio since before you were born, probably... hopefully, I'd hate to think you were old enough to know better. They've been hearing angry ranting and raving about feminazis and uppity blacks since long before SJWs or the internet were even a thing, your criticism is the product of a right wing outrage machine that predates you. They have adored people like Trump as long as you've been alive. Again you're just projecting your own story on to them.
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Actually you guys just stole classical liberal from libertarians, and they stole it from people in the past.
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Because Trump supporters aren't responsible for their own actions, and millennial college kids who voted overwhelming for Bernie are the reason why he lost. Those damn SJW millennial college kids stabbed Greater Liberalism in the back.
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Andrew Voronov Terrorist attacks have actually helped Trump's support, in times of fear people turn toward what they view as a strong leader. The idea that there is some level of racial and gender equality that Trump supporters would be willing to accept if it weren't for those damn SJWs is projection. Appeasement does not work with people like that.
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Exactly +Narasmar, disagreement is not allowed, that is what defending free speech is all about.
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Narasmar It's eniterely subjective. But according to some subjective opinions are more equal than others and 2 legs good 4 legs bad. The guy didn't even say they didn't exist, he just called them a boogeyman.
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857gamer You haven't posted anything to back up your claims. You can't even muster the opinion pieces of angry idiots such as yourself.
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Narasmar They don't. When you are declaring humanism an enemy ideology for promoting humans(which is racist and sexist against you for some reason) it's pretty clear you want to suppress disagreement.
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Finally someone honest about it.
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Peter Mogensen I'm pretty sure Lutherus P-XCs watches the Rubin Report. He just got sick of the contradictions in trying to distinguish between the two..
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Their not. They aren't classical liberals either.
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Andrew Voronov No they didn't. Trump's base is overwhelmingly old and middle aged Republicans. You're projecting your own feelings on to them, namely your anger causing you to flirt with right wing authoritarianism.
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Hence why you people are the new Reagan Democrats rather than being any kind of liberal.
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***** That sounds like inarticulate people on the internet, like 857gamer, *****, and Narasmar.
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857gamer Oh yes, saying there are "a million videos showing SJWs terrorizing the world?" is clearly evidence. By the way I have 23 million documents backing up my claim and I won't bother to show you any since simply stating it is evidence enough.
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Narasmar Exactly, freedom of speech means only certain opinions can be tolerated, and only one narrative can be pushed.
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Narasmar Of course you're going to retort that free speech means things are undebatible. Lol.
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Narasmar No, it's simply you declaring your opinions and narratives to be objective truth and foisting them on anyone who disagrees. Ironically if someone did a fraction of that to you, you would consider that "anti-free speech" which is of course what this is all about.
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Narasmar " So telling someone that they are wrong about the existence about a certain type of activist is forcing my opinions out as objective truth, is it? " To believe in SJWs that is the kind of thing you have to believe.
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Narasmar No it's believing, you have nothing to demonstrate that this is objective knowledge or you would have done it by now. It is simply a subjective belief on your part since you have already defined belief in SJWs with attributing importance and real world consequence to them.
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857gamer All I am arguing is that you people should be open to other view points. If Narasmar can demonstrate the his position is rock solid objective reality I am open to it. You and he are arguing that your viewpoint is unquestionable.
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CoryTheRaven Read Narasmar's comment, voicing disagreement is oppressive and evil and against free speech. Narasmar read CoryTheRaven comment, that's just disagreement
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CoryTheRaven Again, you'll have to tell that to Narasmar.
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***** It's pretty easy, first no one is a member of that movement, and second it has no ideology or goals. In fact there never have been. So if there were never members and there was never an agenda, there was never a movement. QED.
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Narasmar Just like the 50's era McCarthyist didn't persecute anyone since there weren't any communists. Wow, you have quite the list of evil movements there, first it's the feminists, then it's the uppity blacks, and then worst of all it is the hew-mons. Nothing is worse than when these huemans don't know their place.
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857gamer I think you're talking about cultural bolshevism there.
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Narasmar When you have declared humanity your enemy you're in no position to say anyone has gone off the deep end.
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Narasmar And apparently humanism is racist and sexist for it's promotion of humans according to you. And you call other people SJWs. You've just compounded your hypocrisy.
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Narasmar What a joke you people are.
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Narasmar Given how hypocritical you've been on everything else, it's entirely in character for you.
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Narasmar First there is a fundamental hypocrisy in your belief that protecting free speech form the boogeyman of SJWs requires the very tactics you call anti free speech. Second you said these viewpoints need to be suppressed because they a racist and sexist(and I'd like to know against who) You've also declared humanism an enemy ideology. You reached self parody with at this point.
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Narasmar And to put the icing on the cake you just confirmed you're an SJW fighting the oppression of white males.
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CoryTheRaven The guy who goes all SJW for the "oppression of white males" has it figured out? You might want to think that one through.
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Narasmar It's pretty clear that you have a double standard between your own behavior and the behavior of others when it comes to race and sex. You even asserted that not considering SJWs a unique threat was denying reality. You can repeat your commitment to equality, but every time you get into details of how to put it into practice you end up contradicting yourself, promoting the very tactics you decry and bemoaning your own victimhood.
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Narasmar Now you admit it's just your opinion. It would have been easier if you just did that in the first place and acknowledged that people were allowed to disagree with you rather than do it for no other reason than to portray yourself as principled and to save face.
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Narasmar And now you've gone back to the self-aggrandizement now that your feigned humility has gotten called out.
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CoryTheRaven He can speak for himself just fine. He only began failing the turing test toward the end there. It is thinking for himself that he has trouble with.
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Nah, this has happened before, the so-called True Liberal or so-called "classical liberals" will just become the new Reagan Democrats.
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***** Authoritarian progressives? Lol What are you even talking about? Liberals and progressives are fairly united all things considered, more so than the republicans. Your libertarian fantasy is just that a fantasy that right wing libertarianism is some how more than it is, and that you somehow represent left wing libertarianism. Even if you did represent left libertarianism there is no way to bridge the propertarian divide.
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Hey, it's all about the benjamins, that's why he a Secular Talk number of subscribers and a Majority Report number of views on most videos.
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857gamer So in other words you're going to become a street preacher.
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Pretty much, I'd love for this so-called "True Liberal" movement to try something away from the keyboard to see just how few they really are.
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VisionStorm1 So SJWs are a massive treaty trading away the sovereignty of numerous nations?
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