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Comments by "CaptainVanisher" (@captainvanisher988) on "Prisoners In Finland Live In Open Prisons Where They Learn Tech Skills | On The Ground" video.
@jwest8330 Justice is a mix of punishment and rehabilitation. In this case there's virtually no punishment which makes the justice system faulty by default. The idea that punishment shouldn't have a role in the judiciary system is ridiculous.
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This is a perfect example of how a judiciary system is too lenient. Even Finish people agree with this. The punishment is virtually non existent. Justice is not only about rehabilitation. Also you have to take other things into account, such as the fact that Finland is a homogenous and singular culture country.
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@myacct8304 Response for your first comment response: I heavily disagree with what you're saying. My country has very strict gun laws ,yet crime is through the roof (Greece) and particularly in my island almost everyone in the rural areas has guns (even some illegal). Gun banning does not work for most countries because there will be an illegal market for them which is usually impossible to tackle. Nevertheless that's besides the point. What I find extremely dangerous is allowing the government to own all the fire arms. It's a recipe for a dictatorship or a tyranical government. Citizen gun ownership is integral to keep the government in check. Extensive psychological and physical testing to obtain a gun is very dangerous considering that someone might be in danger and might have to use the gun. (A usual case is a woman fearing for her life by her abusive husband/ex, without proof or active threat the police can't help her so in case she needs it she goes and buys a fire arm for protection). Another one is high crime countries. Making it illegal for law abiding citizens to obtain a gun in a country where crime is common place is beyond criminal. You disarm them from the ability to protect themselves. And that has happened in many places including the UK. Now as far as healthcare goes. The reasons why the Us government spends so much money on their healthcare system are mainly two. The fact that they are trying to implement welfare programs through the federal government who has been proven time and time again how incompetent they are. The fact that the federal and local governments are corrupt and are being lobbied by big farma and healthcare companies. That's also one of the reasons of the highly expensive healthcare costs in many places around the Us. The only way to actually bring good change to their system is to remove government interference altogether. Costs would immediately drop due to lack of lobbying power and active competition to get customers.
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@myacct8304 I agree with background checks and pyschiatric checks. What I don't agree though, is going through that process everytime you acquire a firearm. Of course a time limit should exist, but idiotic regulations such as "waiting for 30 days or waiting for 2 months" to acquire a gun is insane. There should be a robust system that would make background checks easy (like there is in the Us) and pyschiatric evaluations should also be included there. But it should make it possible for the average law abiding citizen to acquire a gun. Because sometimes bureaucracy makes things almost impossible for citizens that can't spend 20 hours trying to go through it. As for healthcare I am not advocating for regulations to be evaporated in the Us. But instead for government involvement in the industry to be minimised. For welfare programs (who are already somewhat sh*tty) to be eliminated and only offer such for people in dire need. Overall what I am suggesting is the spending of the Us government that goes into healthcare to be reduced by a lot. As for what caused this high price increase in healthcare, it is directly connected with Us government spending on healthcare dramatically increasing. It's the same thing that happened to college tuition. Why is college tuition so high in the Us? Well it wasn't like that a few decades ago. But what happened was the Us government decided to force banks to give student loans to any student that asked for them. But what that resulted to, is the college administrations could up the price as much as they wanted (within some boundaries ofc) because that tuition would be payed regardless by the banks the students take loans from. And then those banks are forced by the government to give out those loans either way. It's a similar situation with healthcare. The Us was prosperous up until the federal government grew into excessive proportion. The Us was great as a statist country, where state and local governments made most of the decisions affecting their regions. A huge federal government unfortunately has been proven time and time again that it is incredibly harmful to the Us. Sure big federal government reach on small and secluded countries like Finland, Sweden, Norway, Iceland may work, but it's not the same everywhere. Here in Greece particularly our governments had been corrupt since our inception as a country. The reason why we went into an economic crisis is because our corrupt government was overspending and our corrupt politicians were pocketing money for decades until the market crashed. P.S. And guess what? Those same corrupt politicians are still in government and not behind bars. Not only that but big criminal investigations on political corruption have been closed recently like the Novartis scandal.
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@ThatMCKidZ One also ends up with no people killed. You know what's that? The death penalty. You want a person who killed someone to be punished and stop killing? The only certain way is by divine punishment aka death sentence. The only reason it works in Scandinavia is because they have a low population, a homogenous population and no easy entries for illegal gun trafficking. This system can be easily undone by a serial killer ,whose purpose is to murder as many people as possible. He goes into a killing spree he gets into the prison and he acts redeemed for a few years and gets out, then commits more murder. If the type of crime that is in the Us existed in Finland, this system would have crumbled within a few years.
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@tinderminder7106 Funnily or not, Finland was deemed the most racist country in the EU so the "didn't participate in the slave trade" is a ridiculous argument considering Germany didn't either yet they're filled with black illegal immigrants. They just dislike immigration and multiculturalism, that's why they are still homogenous.
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@myacct8304 You lived in two highly homogenous countries that do not have multiculturalism or mass immigration and still hold some religious values. Go to Brazil where they also have an outright gun ban. You'll get shot the minute you are seen with a good watch. Or go to the Uk, where gangs will mass stab you in broad daylight. You're comparing things that are completely unrelated. Gun bans would never work in the Us, they would be devastating. Same with universal health insurance. The Us already spends more than any other country on healthcare and healthcare programs, do you really think that pumping more money will solve the problem. As for lenient prison systems, that's another bs. The reason why the prison system in Finland is horrible is because of leniency. Imagine your sisters r*pist and murderer walking free 8 years later getting a government funded job with luxuries funded by government and a house funded by government and in 14 years living right next to you. Imagine paying for your sister's rapist degree. It's horrible to say the least.
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@mekadoe5902 Degrees in what? Useless sciences? If those degrees were in STEM you would be hired immediately, especially considering the diversity quotas.
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a disgustingly lenient prison system which will deliver your family's murderers right next to your door with the same rights as you and a funded degree by your taxpayer money. So great.
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@myacct8304 Justice is also not heavy rehabilitation. If heavy punishment isn't included in the sentence it is ridiculous to say the least. People need to suffer the consequences of their actions. The guy killed a person, imagine if that was your mother and the killer is roaming free in a luxurious facility that gives him more than he will ever need, including a career to live a good life after his sentence.
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@myacct8304 I agree with you on drug offense. Although drug dealers should be punished accordingly, drug possession for personal use shouldn't be harshly punished especially if it's minor drugs like weed. And considering the two people who are responsible for most of drug offense imprisonment are in the top two positions in the Us ,I doubt that it is gonna change anytime soon.
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@myacct8304 The problem is that in Finland and other Scandinavian countries they don't "serve" their time in punishment. They serve their time in luxurious "maximum security" prisons for a few years and then are gifted other luxuries and roam almost freely for the rest of their relatively short sentence. They say "life sentence" yet most of them are out after 10-14 years. Here in Greece we also have this problem but because our government is corrupt and incompetent , the rehabilitation system is also in shambles. Someone kills my mother, then he should live for at least 15-20 years in a prison with very harsh conditions and then if he shows signs of change, go through rehabilitations for 5-15 years and then released if he has been deemed rehabilitated. As for serial killers, serial r*pists, serial child abusers. They should be dealt with the death penalty. If their crimes are heinous enough, they pay them with their life. Also another problem that is plaguing most of these Western countries that focus in rehabilitation is imprisonment for self defense. In my country it is illegal to kill someone in self defense which is insane.
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@ge2623 Finland: 99% homogeny rate. USA: N*GGA N*GGA N*GGA
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@soulsreaper7145 Bro, you're disgusting. You literally made a paragraph trying to justify criminals that commit murder, armed robberies, assault etc. If every person was an immoral scumbag and committed a crime when they were in a poor financial state then our societies would have crumbled long ago.
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