Comments by "John Zuma" (@johnzuma4688) on "Uthman Ibn Farooq DEMANDS Journalist Is Thrown Out Of Mosque!" video.

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  23.  @kimiyoo5826  You have been lied to my friend. The Jews wanted to kill Jesus because Jesus said that He is God. God the Father was known to the Jews all along. Why would I ask you, if Jesus and the Father are ONE GOD?? Jesus tell us that He and the Father are ONE GOD, so no need to ask you. So do you know what that means? It means that there is ONE GOD and both Jesus and the Father are this ONE GOD. By the way there is nothing about any purpose in those verses, so we know Zakir Naik lied when he made this claim. And the purpose of Jesus to come to us here on earth is to show us Gods plan for our salvation. Again Zakir Naik lied to you. And nowhere does God the Father ever say that we must worship Him. Why would God state the obvious? So are you so in love with Zakir Naik that you have made yourself blind? By the way you do know Zakir Naik is wanted for money laundering and supporting terrorism? So Zakir Naik is a liar and a criminal, you really believe that being love with such an evil person will get you to heaven? Mohammed insulted Jesus all the time. If Jesus is God then Mohammed insulted God by calling Jesus just a prophet. On the other hand if Jesus is not God then saying that He and the Father are ONE GOD would make Jesus a liar and blasphemer which means that Mohammed insulted God by saying that a liar and blasphemer is a prophet of God. So irrespective if Jesus is God or not it means that Mohammed insulted God by calling Jesus a prophet. Of course anyone who insults God cannot be a prophet of God. So anyone who denies the divinity of Jesus calls Jesus a liar and blasphemer and does not respect Jesus at all. So Mohammed insulted not only Jesus he also insulted our Almighty God of the Bible. You say >> i m trying to tell you that the author of the bible is the one liar. << In Surah 3:3 Mohammed tells us that God revealed the Torah and the Gospel, which of course make them the Word of God as that is how God reveals. And in Surah 6:115 Mohammed tells us that none can change the Word of God. Logically according to the quran, the Torah and the Gospel we have today must be the original Word of God. So now you are calling our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible who revealed the Bible a liar?? How will you answer that on judgement day? Mohammed never wrote any one of the many different Arabic qurans we can buy today. All the authors of these different qurans are unknown. So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you or anyone else to heaven?
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  24.  @kimiyoo5826  We read that in the year 624 AD Mohammed changed the direction of prayer from Jerusalem to the Kaaba because Mohammed’s allah commanded Mohammed to do so. At that time the Kaaba was a place of pagan idol worship. So Mohammed bowed down in worship to a place where pagans worshipped some 360 idol gods at that time. We know from the Bible that our God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jakob would never have commanded or even condoned that one of His prophets would bow down in worship to a place where pagan idols were being worshipped. So clearly Mohammed’s allah is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jakob. So who is Mohammed’s allah who is happy to be worshipped as “the god” amongst some 360 pagan idol gods? All we know for certain is, that Mohammed’s allah is not our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible. So the many different Arabic qurans we can buy are only based on what Mohammed maybe said. In fact Mohammed’s message is the first and only message of Mohammed and his allah. Our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible certainly had nothing to do with what Mohammed maybe recited. And of course Jesus tells us the only way to heaven, so why would anyone need an evil war-lord who robbed, raped, murdered, committed adultery, tortured and enslaved women and little children and who corrupted what our TRUE GOD of the Bible taught? Obviously nobody needs Mohammed and the evil he taught. The only one who is very confused is you my friend. Of course Christians believe in the OT and everybody knows that the OT was written before Jesus came to us here on earth. So why do you reject the Torah and the Gospel? According to the qurans (plural) the Bible is the unchanged Word of God. And according to the Old Testament as well as the Gospel Mohammed was a false prophet. So why do you not follow what God teaches in the Bible? But do tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed who is the only messenger of islam will get you are anyone else to heaven? I must have missed the verse in the quran that states >> if you follow Mohammed then you will get to heaven and be with God for all eternity <<
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  32.  @kimiyoo5826  You say that the quran is the word of Mohammed's allah. That of course cannot be correct. At best any one of the many different qurans we can all buy is only the word of Mohammed and no-one else. Unless of course you agree that many verses in these qurans were added after Mohammed had died. So why would I want to learn the words of Mohammed that approve of evil such as wife beating (surah 4:34), child marriage (Surah 65:4) which implies raping little girls, raping women captured in battle (Surah 33:50) and fighting all to force them to submit to islam (surah 9:29). So say God does not make mistakes. I Surah 18:86 we read that Mohammed and his allah tell us that the sun sets in a murky spring. Clearly this is wrong, so according to you Mohammed's allah cannot be God. That of course I fully agree with. You ask >> how can i follow bible that says kill innocent child. << My friend, our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible does not require you or me to kill anyone let alone innocent children. On the other hand Mohammed and his allah approve of raping little girls. So why you think that repeatedly raping little girls is better than killing little children? And the verse in the Bible which of course you do not mention states that God commanded the dead of all the people because they were evil. So you are actually comparing Gods command in one specific instance to Mohammed and his allah approving the rape of little girls for all times? Strange that you reject our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible for punishing evil people but are quite happy to accept the evil approved of by Mohammed and his allah. And do show the Bible verse you refer to. I must have missed the verse that as you claim states hat says that “I” must kill anyone. We can chat quite happily here on the YT comment section, so that all who read here can understand what an evil child rapist Mohammed was and that with the approval of his allah.
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  33.  @kimiyoo5826  Thank you for your response my friend. Which one of the two qurans I have should I put away? You say >> every living things have water. even rock. << I agree that living things contain water but are not made “from water” as it states in Surah 21:30. And of course rocks are not living things. You say >> and the jinn are not made from water. because the jinn is not a living things. << Now according to islam Satan is a jinn and Satan is certainly a living thing and not a ghost. And surah 21:30 clearly states that ALL living things are made “from water”. Satan is a living thing and we can see Satan if he wants us to see him. According to surah 55:15 Satan is not made from water. That my friend is a clear contradiction, so please do not try and corrupt the qurans (plural) we can all buy and just accept that there are many contradictions in the qurans which of course proves that the quran cannot be from God. >> Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). << Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64. Clearly this is a sahih hadiths and of course Sahih Bukhari is the most authentic hadiths there is. So here we have a most authentic hadiths that tells us that Mohammed married a 6 year old child and that Mohammed had sex with that child when it was just 9 years old. What you believe is not the issue here, only what is recorded in the islamic sources. >> 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.' << Sahih Muslim 8:3310. And here Sahih Muslim confirms what Aisha said. Sex with children is always rape, so the two hadiths clearly state that Mohammed raped a 9 year old child. GOT IT??
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  38.  @kimiyoo5826  According to the Surah 33:3, the Torah and the Gospel were revealed by God. And the Law of Moses that was revealed by God commands those who agree to follow God by following the Law of Moses to not eat camel meat as it is as unclean as pig meat. As Mohammed declared pig meat to be unclean, he would not have eaten camel meat either, if he had been a prophet of God. As Mohammed ate camel meat, we know for certain that he was not a prophet of God. Jesus commanded in the Gospel that all who follow God by following what Jesus commanded not to divorce except in the case of adultery. Mohammed declared that divorce was perfectly in order and therefore did not follow what God commanded which also shows that Mohammed was never a prophet of God. And no the Law of Moses and the Law given by Jesus are not just a guide, they must be followed. And both the Law of Moses showed Gods plan for salvation for those who agreed to follow it. In the same way the Law given by Jesus shows Gods plan for the salvation of all who follow what Jesus commanded. So our God of the Bible has given us a plan for our salvation and all we need to do is follow it if we want to get to heaven. So we all have been given a choice by God, either accept Gods plan for our salvation even if we do not fully understand it or alternatively reject God. Your choice my friend. So please show me in the quran you use where Mohammed tells us what his allahs plan was to get us to heaven. I must missed those verses when I read the quran. And the in Gospel Jesus is very clear that He is the only way to God our Father. So show me where in the quran Mohammed proposes a different plan for your salvation. If there is no clear plan for our salvation then nobody needs Mohammed as Jesus being the only way is all we need. So what happened to all those qurans we can buy? Who were the Muslims who added something or removed something? Or do you not know that surah 33 has more than 100 verses missing?
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  39.  @kimiyoo5826  Hindus believe in thousands of gods apparently, so why would what Muslims believe be more correct? The quran does not confirm the previous scriptures in fact in many instances it contradicts it. As Mohammed said that the previous scriptures are false logically Mohammed never respected the previous scriptures. Mohammed in fact only told Christians and Jews to respect their scriptures because they were the Word of God. You say >> … belief in all the revealed books is an article of faith in Islam. << The problem with that statement is of course that Mohammed said that Jesus did not die on the cross, yet the Gospel clearly states that Jesus did die on the cross (as do all the relevant Non-Christians sources). So logically if an article of faith in islam is that you should believe in all the revealed books then you are not following islam my friend. That of course means you will not get to heaven. Seems Mohammed and his allah could not even get it right as to what is written in the previous scriptures. The Torah are the 5 books written at the time of Moses and completed by Joshua. The Psalm where written by many people and not just David. And the Gospel consists of 27 books and letters written by the disciples by Jesus as well as people who followed the disciples and who wrote down what Jesus had revealed. Now you say that the quran is complete? I have two very different Arabic qurans right here at home. So which one is the correct one? And what happened to the more than 100 lost verses of surah 33? And why are there so many mistakes and contradictions in all these qurans? And where is the original quran revealed by Mohammed? Why did Uthman burn this quran and all the other originals?
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  40.  @kimiyoo5826  I read the Bible were it clearly states that camel meat is as unclean as pork (Leviticus 11:1-7). So even you admit that the quran cannot be from God as it allows something that is forbidden in the Law of Moses. And as Mohammed forbade the eating of pork, he clearly decided to follow the Law of Moses. And as Jesus said, not a single letter or dot of the law of Moses will be discarded. So either Mohammed followed the Law of Moses which means all of it which would include not eating camel meat. Or Mohammed made up his own law which we know cannot be from God. So either Mohammed was not a prophet of our GOD of the Bible as he did not follow the Law of Moses (or the commandments of Jesus) or Mohammed was not a prophet of God because he changed the law of Moses and did not follow the commandments of Jesus. Either way Mohammed was not a prophet of God. So again I ask you, who is “the god” that Mohammed talks about? And do remember “allah” only means “the god” in Arabic. All I know for sure is that Mohammed’s “the god” is not our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible. And of course as we can all buy more than 30 different Arabic qurans today, Mohammed’s “the god” could not even guard his quran. And by the way, from the sources we have we know that what our God of the Bible teaches in the Bible has not changed in the last 2000 years. In Surah 3:3 Mohammed tells us that God revealed the Torah and the Gospel, which of course make them the Word of God as that is how God reveals. And in Surah 6:115 Mohammed tells us that none can change the Word of God. Logically according to the quran, the Torah and the Gospel we have today must be the original Word of God. So we all (you included) should read the Word of God in the Torah and the Gospel. I have read the hafs quran which is full of contradictions, so which quran do you use when you say your quran does not have any contradictions? And do remember surah 21:30 (all living things are made from water) contradicts surah 55:15 (jinn who are living things, are not made of water but of the flame of a smokeless fire). I did read the hafs quran carefully and found it to be full of mistakes and contradictions. So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed who was the only messenger of islam will get you or anyone else to heaven?
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  47.  @kimiyoo5826  Most people in the whole world at the time of Mohammed could not read and write. So why would anyone believe that Mohammed was stupid because he could not read and write? The quran clearly states that Mohammed made no miracles, so any claim that Mohammed did miracles proves that the quran is false. If you actually knew something about mathematics then you would quickly realize that there are no mathematical miracles in the quran. Now why would you reject the Bible my friend? In Surah 3:3 Mohammed tells us that God revealed the Torah and the Gospel, which of course make them the Word of God as that is how God reveals. And in Surah 6:115 Mohammed tells us that none can change the Word of God. Logically according to the quran, the Torah and the Gospel we have today must be the original Word of God. So are you saying that the quran is false? And why would I hate a book, just because it logically must be false? If you are a Muslim then you should believe that the Bible is true because the quran states that the Bible is true. And that is where Muslims face one of the many dilemmas of the quran. You see the quran clearly states that the Bible is the revealed and unchanged Word of God, yet the quran contradicts the Bible. So if the Bible is true, then as the Bible contradicts the quran, which proves that the quran must be false. On the other hand, if the Bible is false then, as the quran states that the Bible is true, it proves that the quran must be false. Irrespective if the Bible is true or false, it proves that according to the quran, we know that the quran must be false. So why do you follow a book that logically must be false?
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  48.  @kimiyoo5826  Thank you for telling us what is written in Wikipedia about biology. The point you are ignoring is of course that Surah 21:30 states that ALL living things are made of water. And in Surah 55:15 the quran states that jinn who are living things according to islam are not made of water but of the flame of a smokeless fire. Now you say that Adam was made out of soil. Are you implying that Adam was not made from water as the quran says? That would mean that not only does the quran have a major contradiction, it would also mean that the quran is false. You then go on to say that angels are made from light according to islam. Again this would contradict surah 21:30 as angels are also living things. I am glad that you have brought up this example that clearly proves that the quran is false as well as being full of contradictions. And it is not me who makes a claim that the quran is full of contradictions, it is the quran itself that proves these contradictions. We both know that Satan is alive and if as islam claims we is a jinn then that means that Satan is made from the flame of a smokeless fire and not water as claimed in Surah 21:30. And that proves that Surah 55:15 contradicts surah 21:30. You then say >> a jinn archangel made out of fire. then he disobeyed Allah from PROSTRATING to Adam. << Do you not know that we should just prostrate before God? So you are saying that Mohammed’s allah could not make up his mind. The Bible I have is the Word of God and not some fairy tale invented by Mohammed. And I am not contradicting anything, I am only pointing out ONE of the MANY contradictions in the many different qurans we can all buy. So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you or anyone else to heaven?
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  49.  @kimiyoo5826  My friend, I understand perfectly well what you are saying, I just do not agree with it. Why do you even mention that Mohammed could not read and write? Mohammed could speak and so he could recite and he recited the quran, that is what islam teaches. There were plenty of poets in Arabic and they all recited their poetry, could they all read and write? Of course not, so where did they get all their poetry from? There are plenty of different qurans. The two very different qurans I have here at home are all full of mistakes and contradictions. That alone proves that they are no miracle at all. I mention Surah 3:3 because you believe in the quran. Or are you telling me that you do not believe in any one of the many different qurans we can all buy? Actually Mohammed was so ignorant that he did not even know what the Bible (library of books) all contains. Mohammed seemed to only know about the Torah, the Psalms and the Gospel. But then the Torah and the Gospel are the two main parts of the Bible. And we read in Surah 3:3 >> He hath revealed unto thee the Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. « — English Translation (Pickthall) So here we read that God has revealed in truth the scriptures which were revealed before the quran. The scriptures that were revealed beforehand by God was the Bible. Mohammed then refers specifically to the Torah and the Gospel which are the two major parts of the Bible. So the Bible (Scriptures revealed beforehand in truth) must be the Word of God as that is how God reveals. And in Surah 6:115 we read that “none can change the Word of God”. So according to the quran, the Torah and the Gospel we have today must be the same as the original. So the qurans (plural) all say that the Torah and the Gospel we have today are part of the Christian Bible. Did YOU get this? I and do not attack you, I only tell you what is mentioned in the quran and the hadiths. You say >> it's clear that the jesus in the bible is Lucifer not prophet jesus. << Do explain on what you base this assumption of yours. And do show which verses you are referring to. May I suggest that you actually read those verses and the context. I assume you do not refer to these verses as you have never read them. You say >> why did churches burn your own Bible << You seem confused, it was Uthman who burnt the original qurans which were based on what Mohammed recited. Or do you not know that Uthman burnt all the qurans and replaced Mohammed’s qurans which his own quran? You say I should defend the Word of God. So you agree that the quran is false? Now if you want me to explain a Bible verse to you, then you have to show the verse you are referring to.
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  50.  @kimiyoo5826  We read in the most authentic islamic source the following: >> Narrated Anas bin Malik: Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were Waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur'an, so he said to 'Uthman, "O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Quran) as Jews and the Christians did before." So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. 'Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, 'Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. 'Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt. Said bin Thabit added, "A Verse from Surat Ahzab was missed by me when we copied the Qur'an and I used to hear Allah's Apostle reciting it. So we searched for it and found it with Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari. (That Verse was): 'Among the Believers are men who have been true in their covenant with Allah.' (33.23) << Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510. Here we read that at the time of Uthman different groups of Muslims were reciting “the quran” so differently that it was feared that fights would break between these groups. This required Uthman to put the quran into writing. This tells us that the memorization of the quran had failed completely just 20 years after Mohammed had died. Then we read that Uthman wrote ONE quran in ONE dialect (not seven) and then BURNT all the original qurans that were based on what Mohammed has recited. Of course we see that Hafsas quran was incomplete and we see in other islamic sources that there are more than 100 verses were lost from just surah 33. And all of the Uthmanic qurans have been lost as well. And as we can buy more than 30 different ARABIC qurans today, we know that they must all be corrupted. So can you tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you to Gods heaven? And do remember Mohammed is the only messenger of islam. And do please provide the quran verses on which you base your belief.
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  51.  @kimiyoo5826  No you did not answer why you believe that following Mohammed will get you to heaven. You say >> you will understand that the only way to gain the mercy of Allah swt is by following Muhammad teaching. << Now please show the surah and verse in the quran you use that tells us that following Mohammed’s teaching is the only way gain the mercy of Mohammed’s allah and of course that gaining this mercy will get you or anyone else to heaven? You say >> he is teaching us the qur an << So you agree that the quran is actually only the teachings of Mohammed and not the teachings of his allah? That would explain the many mistakes in the quran. And as you do not answer my questions, I have to keep repeating them. The Law of Moses is recorded in the Torah and according to the quran (Surah 3:3) the Torah and the Gospel were revealed by God which logically makes them the Word of God as that is how God reveals. And in Surah 6:115 it states that “NONE CAN CHANGE THE WORD OF GOD”. So according to the quran as none can change the Word of God. Logically the Torah and the Gospel we have today must be the same as the original. And we know from the Dead Sea Scrolls that the Torah we have today teaches the same as the Torah did more than 2000 years ago. So how could Christians corrupt a document that was written and buried before Jesus came to this world? Of course they could not. So the proof is there, the Torah has not been corrupted. Is is really so hard to understand the facts? According to the Torah the camel is haram and it is as haram as the pig is. Clearly the quran is false as Jesus said that not a single word of the Law of Moses will disappear. And by the way, are you really so ignorant that you do not even know that Christians do not follow the Law of Moses? And are you really so ignorant that you do not know that pork sold in Europe and the USA and Japan is cleaner than ANY meat you can buy in Pakistan or Bangladesh? So Christians have no problem with eating pork, but Muslims are eating religiously unclean meat when they eat camel meat. And as said before, name the Book, chapter and verse of the Bible that you have a problem understanding.
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  52.  @kimiyoo5826  Where does the Bible say that it is a “perfect” book? I must have missed that verse when I read it and I certainly never made that claim. Now what God teaches us is perfect as it ensures that we can all make it to heaven if we accept Gods plan for our salvation. On the other we can of course reject God. Your choice my friend. On the other hand we read in Surah 15:9 >> Indeed, it is We who sent down the message [i.e., the Qur’ān], and indeed, We will be its guardian. « — Saheeh International. As we can buy more than 30 different Arabic qurans today we know that “the quran” (the one revealed by Mohammed) has not been guarded by Mohammed’s allah. So tell me, was Mohammed lying about this or was Mohammed’s allah not capable? So tell me, why do you still believe in the quran you use? And of course which quran do you use and why that one? So lets us look at the age of Jehoiachin when he became King. >> Commentators on these verses explain that Jehoiachin was, in fact, crowned twice. Shortly after Jehoiachin’s father, Jehoiakim, began his reign, he (or the king of Egypt) crowned his eight-year-old son as heir to the throne, to ensure that Jehoiachin would become king after him. Jehoiakim himself had to wrest the throne (with the help of the King of Egypt) from his younger brother, Jehoahaz. As a result, Jehoiakim wanted to ensure that his firstborn would be firmly ensconced on the throne before his own death. When Jehoiachin was eighteen, Jehoiakim died and Jehoiachin in fact took the throne. << https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1452602/jewish/How-Old-Was-Jehoiachin.htm This is the Jewish explanation and as it does not change what God teaches about His plan for our salvation, the issue you raised is totally irrelevant to Jews or Christians. Now for your question. In Surah 18:86 >> Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness. « — English Translation (Pickthall) So here we read in the quran that Dhul Qurneyn found the sun setting in muddy spring. You really believe that the sun sets in a muddy spring where people live nearby? And by the way, I follow our God of the Bible, so that guarantees me a place in heaven. What will happen to you on judgement day?
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  64.  @kimiyoo5826  Your English is OK. Again you understood perfectly well what I said and that was that Christianity stopped the slavery in the islamic counties and especially in the Middle East. And Christianity stopped slavery because it is evil and no because anyone fought back. Marriage in islam is like slavery for the women. Have you not read even one quran that you do not know this? And in Europe women can do any job they want to and do not need some man to marry them for them to have an existence. From Wikipedia: >> The Muslim slave trade was most active in west Asia, eastern Europe and sub-Saharan Africa. Muslim traders exported as many as 17 million slaves to the coast of the Indian Ocean, the Middle East, and North Africa.[13] Abolitionist movements began to grow during the 19th century, prompted by both Muslim reformers and diplomatic pressure from Britain. The first Muslim country to prohibit slavery was Tunisia, in 1846.[14] During the 19th and early 20th centuries all large Muslim countries, whether independent or under colonial rule, banned the slave trade and/or slavery. The Dutch East Indies abolished slavery in 1860, while British India abolished slavery in 1862.[15] The Ottoman Empire banned the African slave trade in 1857 and the Circassian slave trade in 1908,[16] while Egypt abolished slavery in 1895, Afghanistan in 1921 and Persia in 1929.[17] In some Muslim countries in the Arabian peninsula and Africa, slavery was abolished in the second half of the 20th century due to the pressure of the British and French: 1962 in Saudi Arabia and Yemen, Oman in 1970, Mauritania in 1981.[18] However, slavery has been documented in recent years, despite its illegality, in Muslim-majority countries in Africa including Chad, Mauritania, Niger, Mali, and Sudan.[19][20] <<
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  73.  @kimiyoo5826  Most of the women at the time of Jesus worse a head-scarf (not a vale). It was needed to protect the women's hair from the dust of the unpaved streets. So why would women today need to wear a vale? And I assume you have not found any verse in the Bible that says women should wear a vale? But do tell me, why do Muslim women wear a vale? And where in the quran does it state that Muslim men should be circumcised? I have a beard and no-one st church hates me. And why should we not hate terrorist? Do you not believe that terrorism is evil? Again you have run away from my question as to why you follow the pagan worship rituals practiced by the idol god worshippers of Mecca? Let me repeat. Mohammed bowed down in worship to the Kaaba when it had 360 pagan idol gods being worshipped there. We know Mohammed did his pilgrimage to the Kaaba when all these idol gods were being worshipped there. We know that Mohammed kissed the black stone just like the pagan idol worshippers did. We know that Mohammed walked around the Kaaba just like the pagan idol worshippers did. If Mohammed was not worshipping the idols in the Kaaba, he would have torn down the Kaaba and built a new mosque somewhere else in Mecca. As he did not do that, we know that his allah was one of the idol gods in the Kaaba. Remember, as the saying goes, if quacks like a duck and it waddles like a duck it must be a duck. Mohammed worshipped just like the pagan idol worshippers did and that makes him an idol worshippers. And of course one is still a pure monotheist if one worships only one pagan idol. But that does not change the fact that Mohammed bowed down in worship to pagan idols which makes him an idolater.
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  98.  @abduu911  I have read the hafs quran and some of the hadiths and found the following very disturbing about Mohammed and his allah: - Islam teaches that child marriage is OK which implies child rape (Surah 65:4) which is evil. And Mohammed of course led by example when he raped a 9 year old little girl. - Islam teaches that it is OK for a husband to beat his wife (Surah 4:34) which is evil. - Islam teaches that it is OK to use women captured in war to be used and sold as sex slaves (Surah 33:50) which evil. - Islam teaches that Christians and Jews must be fought until they have been killed (murdered) unless they submit to Islam and agree to be oppressed second class citizens in the own country (Surah 9:29) which is evil. - Verily those who believe not [in Islam], among those who have received the scriptures [Jews and Christians], and among the idolaters, [shall be cast] into the fire of hell, to remain therein [for ever]. These are the worst of creatures. << Quran 98:6, So according to Mohammed Christians and Jews who reject Islam are the worst of creature. - And the witness of a women is worth only half of that of a man. (Surah 2:282). That is an insult to all women. So that is my problem with the many different Arabic quran we can all buy. And we should always remember all of Islam is only what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived. Lets see what Jesus said: - Jesus teaches in John 14:6 English Standard Version » 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. « So who needs Mohammed and his allah? Logically no-one, especially as Mohammed does not explain how anyone gets to heaven following what he recited or how he lived.
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  99.  مسائل اسلامية  I have read the hafs quran and some of the hadiths and found the following very disturbing about Mohammed and his allah: - Islam teaches that child marriage is OK which implies child rape (Surah 65:4) which is evil. And Mohammed of course led by example when he raped a 9 year old little girl. - Islam teaches that it is OK for a husband to beat his wife (Surah 4:34) which is evil. - Islam teaches that it is OK to use women captured in war to be used and sold as sex slaves (Surah 33:50) which evil. - Islam teaches that Christians and Jews must be fought until they have been killed (murdered) unless they submit to Islam and agree to be oppressed second class citizens in the own country (Surah 9:29) which is evil. - And the witness of a women is worth only half of that of a man. (Surah 2:282). That is an insult to all women. So that is my problem with the many different Arabic qurans we can all buy. And we should always remember all of Islam is only what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived. So why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you or anyone else to heaven. And do show the quranic verses on which you base your belief. Lets see what Jesus said: - Jesus teaches in John 14:6 English Standard Version » 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. « So who needs Mohammed and his allah? Logically no-one, especially as Mohammed does not explain how anyone gets to heaven following what he recited or how he lived. Or are you calling Jesus a liar?
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  101.  مسائل اسلامية  Your logic is of course totally off course. You cannot understand the quran without the hadiths. If the hadiths were of no importance, why have Muslims developed what they call “a science” to analyse these hadiths? And there is only the Bible which qualifies as source of Gods teaching. There are no hadiths required to understand what God teaches in the Bible. >> Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). << Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64. So here we have the most authentic islamic source telling us that Mohammed married a 6 year old child and then had sex with that child when it was just 9 years old. Now sex with a child is rape which is evil, immoral and disgusting. So according to the most authentic islamic sources Mohammed was an evil child rapist and disgusting pervert. Now your turn, show Christian sources that have a similar authenticity like the islamic hadiths have for islam. And do name the Bible verses you refer to, I will gladly explain to you how you have been lied to about what they they really say. Of course the content of the Bible or the content of some other Christian sources does not change the fact that Mohammed was an evil child rapist and disgusting pervert. Yet today billions of people follow Mohammed. Christians follow Jesus, who never had a slave, never killed anyone, never raped anyone, never tortured anyone, never committed adultery, all which Mohammed did. So who is the better example to follow my friend?
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  102.  مسائل اسلامية  Lets see how you will try and justify Mohammed being an evil child rapist and disgusting pervert. You say >> christians don't have a book to start with even the Bible is not the direct word of God, << First of all this does not change the fact that according to the islamic sources Mohammed was an evil child rapist and disgusting pervert. And that my friend makes you look very desperate to try and change the subject. Of course you seem very ignorant as to what Mohammed taught in the quran. In Surah 3:3 Mohammed tells us that God revealed the Torah and the Gospel, which of course make them the Word of God as that is how God reveals. And in Surah 6:115 Mohammed tells us that none can change the Word of God. Logically according to the quran, the Torah and the Gospel we have today must be the original Word of God. And the Torah and the Gospel are the two main parts of the Bible. So besides Mohammed being an evil child rapist and disgusting pervert are you telling us that Mohammed made a mistake in the many different Arabic qurans we can buy? And you have been lied to my friend, Matthew and John and Peter and James and Jude all knew Jesus and were eye-witnesses to what they wrote down. And we know that the Gospel was written down during the time when there were eye-witnesses alive. And do look up what was discussed at the council of Nicaea, it is well documented. On the other hand can you show me a quran written by Mohammed? Of course not, as he could not even read or write. So can you show me a quran written by someone who was with Mohammed always during the 23 years Mohammed claimed to be a messenger of his allah? Of course not. So there is not even one complete quran today from the time of Mohammed. How do we know this? We have a sahih hadith that tells us that Uthman burnt all the original writings based on what Mohammed maybe recited. And Uthman replaced the many different recitations of what people claimed to have come from Mohammed and replaced it with his own new quran written in only one dialect. Problem is that Uthmans quran and its copies have also all been lost and as we can buy more than 30 different Arabic qurans today we know 100% that they all must be corrupted. And of course nobody knows who wrote any one of these many different qurans. Or can you tell me who were the authors of all these many different Arabic qurans? And what were their interest and objections when they rewrote Uthmans quran? And is that the reason why in each of these qurans there are so many mistakes and contradictions my friend? Following your logic, that proves that all these different Arabic qurans written by unknown authors and being full of mistakes and contradictions cannot be from God. So tell me why do you follow one of these qurans that according to you cannot come from God? The scholars of the Bible have more than 25.000 manuscripts to study including some 5000 complete handwritten Bibles as well as some 10.000 translations. And all of them teach the same message of God. And of course not one Biblical scholar has discarded even one of these manuscripts as false. The hadiths writer who only recorded the hadiths some 200 years after Mohammed lived discarded more than 98% of the hadiths in circulation in their time as false. So why did they not discard the sahih hadiths (plural) that confirmed that Mohammed married a 6 year old child and then raped that child when it was just 9 years old? They did not discard these hadiths because they were convinced that they were true. So tell me, why do you believe that following an evil child rapist will get anyone to heaven? So I challenge you again, show where in the Bible it gives the age of Mary and Joseph. And do show the scholars who you claim say that Mary was around 12 years old. I take you are asking me to research for myself because you know just like I know that nowhere is Mary’s age reliably given. And of course the video link you posted, only makes an assumption and nothing else. But lets assume Mary was 12 years old, that makes 33% older than when Mohammed raped prepubescent 9 year old little Aisha. So you really believe that by referring to Mary that justifies Mohammed raping a little prepubescent 9 year old child? Lets see what the Bible says about Rebecca. Genesis 24:15-19 Expanded Bible » 15 Before the servant had finished ·praying [L speaking], Rebekah, the daughter of Bethuel, came out of the city. (Bethuel was the son of Milcah and Nahor, Abraham’s brother [11:27–30].) Rebekah was carrying her water jar on her shoulder. 16 She was ·very pretty [extremely beautiful], a virgin; she had never ·had sexual relations with [L known] a man. She went down to the spring and filled her jar, then came back up. 17 The servant ran to her and said, “Please give me a little ·water [sip] from your jar.” 18 Rebekah said, “Drink, ·sir [my master].” She quickly lowered the jar ·from her shoulder [L on her hand] and gave him a drink. 19 After ·he finished drinking [L she let him drink all he wanted], Rebekah said, “I will also pour some water for your camels [L until they have finished drinking].” << By the way the Book of Jasher is not part of the Bible. So does Genesis 24:15-19 sound as if Rebecca was just 3 or even just 10 years old?? You say >> or is that ok for Issac and god, but not for Muhammed peace be upon all the prophets. « And of course nobody today follows Isaac, and I assume you do not actually suggest that Mohammed is the same as our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible? So why are you comparing Mohammed with Isaac and of course why do you suggest that Mohammed is the same as God? You say >> I'm providing you from what you believe to be "God's word" while you are not providing me from what I believe to be "God's words", << So let me help you. In Surah 65:4 we read about divorce. The first part speaks about older women who have stopped menstruating. The next part >> and [also for] those who have not menstruated. … << So who are those wives who have not menstruated?? That refers to prepubescent children. Logically a Muslim man cannot divorce a wife if he has not married her. So marrying prepubescent children is approved in Islam by Mohammed and his allah. And marrying children means having sex with children which is raping children and that is evil. So here we have Mohammed and his allah approving of Muslim men raping little girls which proves that Mohammed was never a prophet of our Almighty God of the Bible. You refer to Numbers 31:17-18, so what is your point? Or are you saying that God does not have the right to destroy his creation? You say as a Muslim you believe that Jesus never killed, raped, committed adultery or tortured anyone. Yet according to the islamic sources we know that Mohammed did all these things. So again tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you to heaven? As Christians know that Jesus is the Word of God which makes Him God, we accept that God has the right to judge all human beings. And as you correctly show in 1 Samuel 15:3, our God is not this placid merciful God that Mohammed claimed his allah is. Just think what will happen to all those people who have rejected Gods plan for our salvation when we see what He did to the Amalekites for just fighting the Jews. What do you think will happen to you on judgement day? You mention that Mary became distressed when she met an angel. You obviously have no clue how powerful God is and I certainly would get distressed if an angel came to me. You say >> I don't believe such things that degrade God, Jesus, and Marry to the point that I just stated, « I fact you insult God, by criticising His actions, you insult Mary and you insult Jesus and of course you make Mohammed equal to God. I wonder how God will view that on judgement day. I certainly do not believe that anyone in their complete mind would insult God and imply that Mohammed was equal to God. And of course our God has given us a free will. God gave us the choice to accept His plan for our salvation or we can reject God. Your choice my friend. And by the way, not one of the points you raised changes the fact that Mohammed was an evil child rapist and disgusting pervert which proves that Mohammed was never a prophet of God.
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  103.  مسائل اسلامية  My dear friend, it was you who jumped the topics and I only answered you. So if you want to stick to one topic, then lets go back to the original which was that Mohammed raped a 9 year old child. And when we read Surah 65:4 we see that here it implies that Mohammed and his allah approved of marrying prepubescent little girls (those who have not menstruated) which in turn implies that Mohammed and his allah approved of raping little girls. You did not answer why would thought such a disgusting and evil person like Mohammed could even be a prophet of God. You say >> I notice you didn’t reply to how disgusting and evil rape is when Isaac did it, << As you have failed to show that Isaac raped anybody, what is there to answer? You say >> or when your god decided to enter a girls uterus without her consent, << Mary did consent (Luke 1:38). You say “your god” referring to my God, does that mean that you agree that Mohammed’s allah is a different god to our Almighty God of the Bible? That would mean you believe in at least two gods, namely Mohammed’s allah as well as our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible who is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. That makes you a polytheist. On the other hand if you believe that Mohammed’s allah is the same as our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible, then you are blaspheming and I wonder how you will answer that on judgement day. You say >> At the very least prophet Muhammed got consent from Aisha and her parents, << A 6 year old child cannot give consent to something that she does not understand. So Aisha did not give her consent. As we know that all the hair on Aishas head fell out, so it seems that she was very distressed at the thought of Mohammed marrying her. And of course Abu Bakr did not want Mohammed to marry Aisha, but Mohammed insisted. You say >> you also didn’t reply to the evilness, violence, and cold blooded of your hod and Bible killing innocent children, pregnant women, and even animals. << Are you saying our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible does not have the right to do with His creation as he pleases? And our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible does not have the right to punish evil people? Is that what you believe? Remember, this is how our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible dealt with the people God judged to be sinners. So you know what awaits you on judgement day. So tell me, do you really believe that you as a simple human being can prescribe to God what he can or cannot do? So Bart Ehrman, who is an atheist, is the best you can come up with? You do know that Bart Ehrman clearly says that Jesus died on cross, so Bart Ehrman who you say we should listen to, clearly states that islam is false. So will you believe him that Jesus died on the cross, after all you said that he is the expert. On the other hand, if you do not believe him, why should I? You say >> Don’t believe all the lies you been told, << So far you have not shown even one lie that I might have been told. So why lets hear at least one lie and why you consider it to be a lie. And again, you are the one who is jumping from one topic to another and I am only following you. So answer, why do you believe that an evil child rapist and disgusting pervert was a prophet of our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible? So tell me, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you to heaven? And remember Mohammed is the only messenger of islam.
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