Comments by "Iazzaboyce" (@Iazzaboyce) on "La Karencita" channel.

  1. Other countries need people with valuable knowledge too. Countries are worse off when their most skilled people go to other countries for better wages.
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  2. Can you actually cite one statement made by the Leave campaign and prove it to be a lie?
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  3.  @czarzenana5125  Simply stating "The 350 million on the bus" is not proof there was anything improper about the Leave campaign's use of the 350 million figure. As for the final trading arrangement between the EU and UK - this was an unknown in 2016 and has yet to be decided. One problem is the politicians that campaigned for Leave and won have not until now been in power and even now their ability to deliver on Leave aspirations is being curtailed by pro-EU MPs. So, I ask again: Can you actually cite a statement made by the Leave campaign and prove that statement to be a lie?
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  4.  @czarzenana5125  Some people tried to prove the '350 million' was a lie and failed: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/07/boris-johnson-wins-court-challenge-over-350m-brexit-claims The message contained a statement of fact: "We send the EU 350 million per week" and a suggestion: "let's fund the NHS instead". The statement of fact appears to be accurate, as the UK does send this amount to the EU (confirmed by the UK Statistics Authority). Whilst, it is true that, the EU returns and uses some of this money for projects in the UK, this fact does not alter the validity of the original fact and this is particularly so, given the ‘fiscal independence’ context of the Brexit referendum. This first part of the bus message is therefore, not a lie. Now the 'suggestion'. A 'suggestion' or ‘proposal’ cannot be a statement of 'fact' under any circumstances, so this part of the bus message cannot be adjudged to be 'false'. Also a 'suggestion' cannot be a 'promise' so there can be no expectation that the terms of a referendum suggestion should be carried out by the person that made the suggestion or by a person that, concurred with the suggestion when there has been no opportunity to do so. So the bus message is not a lie. In pure fiscal terms, the bus message was entirely accurate, as the saving would be always used to 'fund the NHS' for as long as NHS was state funded and expenditure exceeded 350 million per week. This is because all government spending comes from the same coffer; moreover, the government was borrowing more than this amount to meet its spending commitments. The referendum was not a general election, the Leave supporting MPs were not going to form a government and the public fully understood this. Indeed, the only people complaining the NHS has not received this ‘extra’ money are people that, voted to keep sending it to the EU. An example of a message that is an actual lie, is the claim made repeatedly by the Remain supporting media and Remain activists that, 'the EU funds the UK' in various ways. Of course, this is fiscally impossible, as the facts easily prove the UK has always funded the EU.
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  5.  @KingBee24  The referendum was not a general election - the Leave campaign was not going to form the government the day after and give the NHS all the money the UK was sending to the EU. Everyone in the country understood this but, Remoaners have been spinning lies. The message just said 'Let's not give the EU our money - let's keep our money and use it for the NHS instead'... Try thinking of it this way: You pay £35 each week for membership of a golf club, a £100 each week on credit card repayments and £50 each week for private healthcare - you consider cancelling your golf club subscription - so you can use the saved money to pay for more important things like your healthcare 'instead'. You see it's perfectly straightforward - you just need to stop listening to lies.
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  6. One benefit of Brexit is actually getting out makes it impossible to persuade people to join.
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