Comments by "Iazzaboyce" (@Iazzaboyce) on "Channel 4 News" channel.

  1. I'll bet my house on all those mocking this guy's speech impediment voting Tory.
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  2. Are we supposed to assume the people asked to name Richard Tice knew the other leaders?
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  3. Note the intro! Owen Jones is described as 'left-wing journalist' whereas Toby Young gets 'conservative writer' .....The people writing this know exactly how these words are perceived, and this should tell you all you need to know about UK media bias.
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  4. Just goes to show what a huge mistake joining the European project was.
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  5. A person would have to spend their entire life lying 24/7 to get as good as Campbell.
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  6. I'm old enough to remember life in the UK outside the EEC/EU and I voted Leave because I have seen the British working class become progressively worse off. Before the UK joined the EU a single unskilled wage could keep a family and buy a home. Today both parents have to work, need Tax Credits and cant buy a home.
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  7.  @YorickReturns  Mummy I didn't win WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
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  8. If you listen the UK government pays - so it's not 'free' - it's other countries that don't pay for UK healthcare. https://news.sky.com/story/nhs-scandal-as-uk-pays-millions-to-eu-10189381
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  9. A majority of the political class is against the people. What would the result have been had MPs not advised to vote Remain?
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  10. He thinks the propaganda is pro Brexit - that's 'mind altering substances' for you...
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  11. TheGava4 The last time 'unemployment went through the roof' was in the first 2 years of Thatcher when it increased by 2 million. Oh! And as for debt - Osborne borrowed more money in under 5 years than the previous Labour administration borrowed in 13 years. But, hey ho! Never let the facts get in the way of good pile of Tory bullshit!
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  12. If each UK national living in Spain spends 250 euros per week - that's 13 million euros each year for every thousand UK nationals. This money is UK pounds injected into the Spanish economy. It creates many jobs for Spanish people. UK pensioners do not take jobs from locals and the UK government pays for healthcare provided by Spain. Countries like Poland have not been paying the healthcare costs of their nationals in the UK.
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  13. It is the 'visionaries' like Ken thinking they know better than the people that have caused this mess. There was never any evidence the British people wanted to be part of a united states of other European countries. Thanks Ken for half a century of lost opportunity and wasting hundreds of billions of pounds.
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  14. Doesn’t like these nostalgic notions of Great Britain - didn't stop him accepting the Order of the British Empire.
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  15. Jeremy Corbyn is a decent guy - I might not want everything on his wish-list, but I take his word over Sky, BBC, C4, Tories, Blairites etc. This is the elite trying to destroy a person for almost distributing wealth more fairly. These days most Labour Party MPs are really protecting the interests of the superrich - how else would Tony Blair be worth £50 million...
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  16.  @alangardner8596  It's just a mutually beneficial contract between parties and like any contract either party can change without prior agreement of the other party, however, such action risks any consequential change either party is prepared to apply. There's no 'international law' about it.
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  17. Yes, 'MP safety' doesn't hold water - more probable is Starmer did not want this to affect his lead in the polls and Labour Hoyle went along with it.
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  18. There were plenty of skinny and starving children in the UK before the Labour Party won a landslide in 1945. You should get some education.
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  19. No matter how hard the UK 'news' tries - it just can't turn the people against Brexit.
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  20. If UKIP really wants to represent the people of the United Kingdom it should promise to take public transport and energy production and distribution back into public ownership, because that's what 70% of the electorate want. 
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  21. When more people want housing than there is available housing then the cost of housing (rent / property value) goes up. When more people want employment than there are available jobs the cost of employing someone (wages / working conditions) goes down..........So basically mass immigration is only good for employers paying low wages and property owners charging high rents.
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  22. TheGava4 It's 'hear hear' ..you plonker! Now why don't you explain why you think his policies would be disastrous for the UK? Because if you don't give any reason for your stance we end up going: is, isn't, is, isn't, is, isn't ...Which is a bit childish.
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  23. We don't want to win on Tory-lite terms - we want to win or lose on Labour terms - we want to speak from the heart and we don't need a transplant!
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  24. Comment section is like a bad losers' convention.
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  25. Have you read the Good Friday Agreement? The reason I ask is I have read it and it doesn't mention 'customs' 'trade' 'immigration' 'visas' or anything about 'border control'. In fact, the Good Friday Agreement acknowledges Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom and is a separate country to Republic Of Ireland.
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  26. smashingpapayas OK read it again - now what is your evidence for saying 'UKIP made it about race'?
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  27. The Parliamentary Labour Party is being set up as an obstacle to Corbyn's Leadership, but Corbyn has 60% members' support so even a head to head challenge is almost bound to fail (if even get off the ground). Corbyn will form a consensus from membership on revised fundamental policies and each Labour MP will have to ask themselves if they're in the right political party....There's no shortage of prospective candidates from the 60% of membership.
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  28. Mark Fraser He's so 'weak' that he wanted a one to one debate with Cameron....
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  29. As a people we should demand all our MPs drop any ideas about the EU - they are paid by us and should work for us - not other countries.
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  30. It's interesting the police statement said the body was found 'close to the road' - why mention this if they're not thinking 'there was no body there when we last checked?'
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  31. Toby Twatface talks about Michael Foot and the1983 election, but he omits that the Labour Party was infiltrated by Tories that formed the SDP to split the working class vote! So in the 83 election 13 million voted Tory for privatisation of publicly owned services and 16 million voted for Labour and SDP whose manifestos were against the privatisations.
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  32. I like the way the right wing media portray public ownership of essential services and national resources as being a 'backward step' when private ownership preceded it. I don't remember Tory re-privatisation of public property being described as 'backward' even when a majority voted against it.
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  33. The staff at Stoke Mandeville also knew about his abuse of patients there.
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  34. smashingpapayas You state 'UKIP made it  about race'......What is your evidence for this?
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  35. Anthony Meursault It's more simple than that - it's about the plebs holding a stake in society. The Labour movement changed the way society worked. Ownership is control - if the people have no ownership they have no say. The ruling class has hoodwinked the people into giving up hard gained say. The last 30 years has all been about taking assets and control from the people and handing it to a mega rich minority. This mega rich minority doesn't want the majority to find out and become organised. They fear the people knowing the truth about control - it's that simple. 
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  36. If you use the same 'logic' as this idiot then less people voted to be in EEC in the1975 referendum than voted out or didn't vote, so we should have had Brexit in 1975.
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  37. But, the country is not divided on Brexit as 85% of voters voted for Brexit in the 2017 general election. Parties with stop Brexit manifestos seen a drop in vote share.
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  38. The people voted for the UK to 'leave' the EU and the Oxford Dictionary definition of 'leave' is to "depart from permanently".
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  39. They don't need a passport to board a ferry from Liverpool to Belfast or to walk across the border into Ireland.
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  40. Don't forget Boris went to Eton where they have a class called 'How To Deal With Johnny Foreigner'...
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  41.  @VeeShenge  There's the problem that if we have referendums every 10 years it will turn into every 5 years and there will never be stability. The idea of union is we come together and work as one greater nation.
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  42.  @woodpecker8327  You had a vote and the result was to be in the UK - try thinking that the 'us' won and your side is no entitled to continually disrespect the majority.
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  43. @Gordon BoabingA This is what Lord Paddy Ashdown said on a second referendum whilst the 2016 referendum votes were being counted: “Here’s the single point: Those that asked for this and I was the first leader ever to ask for a referendum way back in 89/90, have said so because they believe it to be an act of democracy. I will forgive no one who does not accept the sovereign voice of the British people once it has spoken. Whether it’s by 1% or 20%, once they’ve taken it, it is our duty, as those who serve the public to make the best use and to make sure that our country does the best it can with the decision the people have given us. I’ve heard Mr Farage say tonight: ‘We’re coming back even if we lose’. Excuse me! He’s the person that complained about lack of democracy in Europe! If he will not accept the sovereign voice of the British people, whatever they say, then I think he does not have the national interest at heart.” (Lord Paddy Ashdown 24 June 2016)
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  44. People arn't stupid - it's just a question of getting out of the EU in a way we voted for.
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  45. smashingpapayas It has nothing to do with race it's about nationality. I have visited the USA and Canada on many occasions and the rules preventing visitors working in those countries are very strict.
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  46. Aminah Saleem Listen up stupid! There's nothing racist about UKIP policies on UK independence and immigration. All countries control immigration based on nationality. 
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  47. Yes, there was 'skinny and starving' people in the past, as a direct consequence of the 'free market economy' you seem to think will solve these problems. Before Labour was in a position to do anything (1945) five evils were identified: want, disease, ignorance, squalor and idleness. Labour policies were for full employment, welfare state, national health service, education and decent housing. That's why the working class are no longer 'skinny and starving' and have better health, housing, and education. Rich people do not tend to give money to others (which is how they get rich), but they always need to exploit others to get that money. Today's problems in NHS funding, high unemployment, underemployment levels, wage compression, unaffordable rents/mortgages, tuition fees, cuts in welfare, zero hours contracts.... These things should be making you think we're going back to 'skinny and starving' people.
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  48. The best reason for leaving the EU is that the country can unite around being an independent, self governing nation. The vote showed that half the country were not content and the other half will not amount to the same discontent and division... There was never any real desire on the part of the nation to be part of the EU it was always an imposition by 'we know best' politicians.
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  49. +Skylar I think there is some truth in what you say, but what about the Christians being publicly tortured and executed by ISIS for not denouncing their faith? I think the EU should make an immediate offer of an EU passport to every Christian fleeing ISIS.
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  50. Looking at the way Channel Four and Crick handled the Plebgate story and bent over backwards to portray the obvious culprit as a wronged man, in a blatant attempt to assist the Tories. I shouldn't be surprised if this was a put-up-job - so the story becomes 'members of the Conservative Party supported and voted for the Labour leader most convenient to them ha ha'. Even so, the truth is palpable. The Tories are obviously rattled by this surge in support for a politician at a time when the public opinion of politicians is at an all time low. The Tories won't understand what's going on though, because they're incapable of perceiving the concept of fairness - so Cameron and Osborne will probably grow beards.
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  51. 'Channel Fake News' doesn't like this...
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  52. Most are EU27 citizens either living in the UK or come over for the march.
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  53. Don't vote for the looney labour party
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  54. She's had the sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-shakes since he became prime minister.
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  55. £39 billion is £60 million for each UK constituency...
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  56.  @evelbsstudio  It was a massive win for Leave, because the 'in power' establishment and media campaigned hard for Remain. Think of it this way: Brexit was the 'high risk' option and remain was the 'safe' option. Now look at the group of voters (perhaps 20 million) who were in 'two minds' - obviously, most will have gone for the safe option, but now they accept Brexit and will never vote to re-join the EU.
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  57. So why did Trudeau leave - does he not want to be seen with Europeans too?
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  58. A second in/out referendum: There could be no £9 million government leaflet supporting Remain 2016 ‘project fear’ will be exposed as propaganda ‘Project fear part two’ will be ridiculed The 2016 racist slurs against Leave voters would not be effective A second referendum would be seen as being anti democratic, a waste of time and money In 2016 there was huge ‘status quo’ advantage for Remain - this no longer exists Since 2016, EU leaders have made disparaging remarks towards UK Leave would argue the UK’s relationship with EU is irrevocably damaged In 2016 the perception was Remain would win - some people just like to win In 2016 Remain seemed the safer option - those in ‘two minds’ more likely to have voted Remain In 2016 Leave bus said ‘£350 million’ a second referendum Leave bus would say ‘£39 billion’ Leave would argue the UK crawling back to the EU would be national humiliation Leave would argue the UK could never be serious in negotiations with EU again UK ‘opt outs’ would be seen as worthless In a second referendum Remain would not be able to exploit the murder of female Remain MP Most under 35s would support Remain without having to go to a polling station Deceased over 55s would be replaced by new living over 55s Recently bereaved non voters would use their vote to proxy deceased Leavers Remain would have no popular leading figures... Vince Cable? Politicians on all sides would be wary of nailing themselves to the mast of a sinking Remain cause Leave leaders would look like winners deprived of rightful opportunity Leave campaigners would deride Remain as anti democratic, anti British Remain would look like bad losers and the pendulum would swing Bring it on
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  59. Basically, the whole establishment (which includes the 'news' media) is against Brexit and have been subjecting the British people to more than two years of a propaganda campaign designed to scare and bully them into changing their minds... It hasn't worked and they will soon realise it's futile and give up. Then we will have some semblance of normality with even a positive outlook.
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  60. I don't like Tories, but I was very upset at this news - mainly because they'll be playing her music on the radio.
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  61. Cell Null And meanwhile the wealthy minority have it all and have it all their way - I get it!
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  62. Lloyd Harrington I doubt that you'll ever be as asset rich as Lazza ;o)
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  63.  @room101b7  No. Being in a customs union is 'remain' but with no say - which is the reason they will use to make the argument for rejoining.
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  64. Countries I've visited that are not in the EU have more money than week... In Australia two hours flipping burgers will fill your tank with petrol.
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  65.  @Blacktolite  And the ducks in the park were not getting fed!! Whilst HE was drinking a glass of wine at home!!! It's an outrage!!!! A disgrace!!!!! A flipping liberty!!!!!!
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  66. People are being very unfair about Labour being unclear over Brexit when the Labour policy is very clear. In the next general election they will campaign for Brexit in areas that voted Leave and campaign to stay in the EU in areas that voted Remain.
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  67. She and her kind (pro-EU UK politicians, pro-EU UK civil servants, pro-EU UK media) have been in cahoots with the EU to ignore/undermine the referendum result and to keep on kicking the can down the road while subjecting the British people to an onslaught of anti-Brexit propaganda. The idea was to wear the British people down and make them change their minds - it hasn't worked and more people would now vote Leave.
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  68. Imagine trying to explain this to Joe Biden:body-blue-raised-arms::trophy-yellow-smiling:
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  69.  @VeeShenge  The situation in Northern Ireland is, if it appears a majority want NI to leave the UK there will be a referendum. There has been a recent referendum in Scotland and the result was the Scottish people wanted to stay part of the UK. There appears to be no obvious majority to reverse that decision. If you don't respect those that voted 'No' why should anyone listen to your demands to be respected? If it becomes clear a majority of Scottish people want Scotland to leave the UK then there will be a referendum. There is also the argument that, if a minority of Scots would just shut up about it - 90% of Scots would be happy in the UK.
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  70. I just can't take the BBC (Bare Bottom Club) seriously...
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  71. How did such a great people end up with such a great numpty calling the shots?
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  72. No mention of letting Jimmy Savile off the hook or trying to get Julian Assange extradited to the US for life in prison or execution...
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  73. Some news for C4: I just spoke with a bus driver (who's not voting) and he told me all his passengers (including school kids) believe C4 paid an actor to smear Nigel Farage.
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  74. I thought they wanted an open border - what were all the signs about 'No Hard Border'?
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  75. This isn't Germany and we don't want to be like Germany which is why we voted to leave the EU.
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  76. No one took him seriously when he was prime minister - so who's going to listen now? He has become more ridiculous than his spitting image puppet.
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  77. Aminah Saleem Every EU country (including the UK) control immigration based on nationality - the same as every other country in the world does. If you have actual evidence that UKIP is being racist then let's see it.
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  78. smashingpapayas I don't need to read it again - it was nonsense the first and second time I read it. Like I said already, I have visited your part of the world and when I travelled from the US to Canada by train, the train was stopped on the border and all passengers were required to produce documentation. Then when the train got to Canada I was taken aside and questioned for 2 hours before being allowed to enter. If you are so concerned about Romanians why don't you start a political party to invite them to the US and Canada?
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  79. autofreak7 But why do I have to go out and earn money to maintain my house and then pay tax to remove a plant from Cameron's chimney? Why can't he pay to maintain his house?
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  80. Ophelia De Beaufort So why was the apparatchik there? You have to admit the message sent out was always going to be one of Tory panic over Corbyn's popularity. So why take the chance? They must have known the press would recognise him. I think there's only one possible explanation and that is the Tories are genuinely rattled, but believed their friends in the media would not blow his cover - but they forgot that after general elections have been won for the Tories the TV political coverage tries to appear balanced. This is a huge PR disaster for the Tories, which is why so many are on here getting shirty. 
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  81. ***** Why should atheists or republicans have to sing our national anthem? Just because you believe in God and think someone should be born to rule over you - doesn't mean everyone has to. Jeremy Corbyn has the overwhelming support of the Labour membership and Labour MPs should keep that in mind.
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  82. In a democracy the electorate should decide who 'the bastards' are; and it has.
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  83. Are members of the Conservative Party exempt from wearing seatbelts whilst driving?
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  84. Cell Null Have you ever travelled to countries where you think 'capitalism rewards effort'? ....Somehow I doubt it.
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  85. Anthony Meursault Because what we have had is not leftist politics. We have had a continuation of the return of ownership and control to a wealthy minority. Remember when Thatcher would say 'We wiould never sell the Royal Mail'? Well it's happened! And it's all been done bit by bit by career politicians in all parties serving corporate interests. The British people have not voted for membership of the EU, or for mass immigration, or for privatisation of public assets - it's career politicians and a wealthy minority that have wanted and benefited from this and it's all been a slight of hand con-trick!  
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  86. Cameron probably told him to find out what non-Eton people think about austerity and the silly boy ends up in Nuneaton!
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  87. When she looks down she sees a triangle with the all seeing eye on top
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  88. I'm pleased an SNP MP believes Brexit has not diminished the UK's global reputation: "The UK does have such an important voice in the international community"
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  89. What's this 'battle of ideas' all about? We've done all that and Leave won - so bloody well get on with it!
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  90. If Blair believed a no-deal Brexit would be an economic disaster he would want it because the country would soon vote to re-join the EU on EU terms and his pro-EU legacy would be vindicated. Obviously, he really knows the UK will prosper under no-deal and the British people will wonder why they ever listened to people like him.
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  91.  @cyberbiker007  The referendum was not about a deal is was about whether the UK should be member of the EU. If a woman wants a divorce because she feels her husband controls her life - is she supposed to change her mind because she will be less well-off?
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  92.  @marcysss93  Remainers in parliament are making themselves a laughing stock - the world sees this and is waiting for the people to do something.
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  93.  @seriousthree6071  The message contained a statement of fact: "We send the EU 350 million per week" and a suggestion: "let's fund the NHS instead". The statement of fact appears to be accurate, as the UK does send this amount to the EU (confirmed by the UK Statistics Authority). Whilst, it is true that, the EU returns and uses some of this money for projects in the UK, this fact does not alter the validity of the original fact and this is particularly so, given the ‘fiscal independence’ context of the Brexit referendum. This first part of the bus message is therefore, not a lie. Now the 'suggestion'. A 'suggestion' or ‘proposal’ cannot be a statement of 'fact' under any circumstances, so this part of the bus message cannot be adjudged to be 'false'. Also a 'suggestion' cannot be a 'promise' so there can be no expectation that the terms of a referendum suggestion should be carried out by the person that made the suggestion or by a person that, concurred with the suggestion when there has been no opportunity to do so. So the bus message is not a lie. In pure fiscal terms, the bus message was entirely accurate, as the saving would be always used to 'fund the NHS' for as long as NHS was state funded and expenditure exceeded 350 million per week. This is because all government spending comes from the same coffer; moreover, the government was borrowing more than this amount to meet its spending commitments. The referendum was not a general election, the Leave supporting MPs were not going to form a government and the public fully understood this. Indeed, the only people complaining the NHS has not received this money are people that, voted to keep sending it to the EU. An example of a message that is an actual lie, is the claim made repeatedly by the Remain supporting media and Remain activists that, 'the EU funds the UK' in various ways. Of course, this is fiscally impossible, as the facts easily prove the UK has always funded the EU.
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  94. Listening to this closely, it becomes obvious what's really going on. They haven't said to Parker: 'Go in, pose as one of them, make some racist comments and we will put you on TV to damage Reform' They've said to Parker: 'Go in, pose as one of them and try to get them to make racist comments' This hasn't worked, so they've had to use Parker's comments. ,
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  95. Is that the same Mark Twain who lost all his money and all his wife's inheritance investing in a 'stupid' idea?
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  96. Despite their claims they know they cannot reverse the 2016 vote, so they want a soft Brexit to enable the UK to be rejoined down the road. Their big fear is no-deal (voted for by the people) as this would see the UK move in a new direction, thrive and any ideas of rejoining the EU would never get off the ground.
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  97.  @undogmatisch5873  Yes, that's called 'election campaigning' - were you aware Remain did this too - or did you just want Leave banned from campaigning?
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  98. I'd bet my house that's a C4 reporter under the balaclava.
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  99.  @drummingtildeath  'Leave' means "Depart from permanently" (Oxford)
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  100. Emily is clearly stressing about Starmer's speech gaff - she doesn't think it will harm the party's reputation - she just really needs a plate of sausages...
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  101. Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the UK need to stick together in this uncertain world.
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  102. The Daily Mail wish it did have 17.4 million readers.
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  103. What about all the the biased pro remain TV 'news' like Channel 4?
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  104. Remain activists like Channel 4 are going to lose all credibility on a no-deal Brexit when everyone sees project fear was nothing more than fake news.
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  105. You're not really comparing like with like. Washington alone is bigger than England with 45 million less people. When I visited the Pacific Northwest I was surprised at the extent of industrial waste burning.
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  106. The best possible outcome - for the EU.
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  107.  @Hazed64  Yeah - some people just live in their lifetime..
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  108. She seems like a talented girl, but she needs to forget this independence nonsense and join the Labour Party.
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  109. If there's a general election between a Boris no-deal Brexit and a rainbow remain second referendum Corbyn led alliance - the 2016 Labour leavers will vote for Boris and the 2016 Tory remainers will vote for Boris... If there's no remain alliance, first past the post will hand Boris a landslide.
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  110. It's not up to the people - it's up to the politicians that represent the people.
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  111. For you this is true, but for other people the opposite is true. The best way a society can get resolution on different political opinion is for everyone to hear all the arguments and have the electorate vote. This system is called 'democracy' and the only possible alternative is called 'fascism'. Fascism is when some members of society believe their ideas are more justified than opposing ideas and inevitably they impose policies on society by using propaganda and fear. In 2016 the UK had a fair referendum, there was record participation and the result was that the UK should leave the EU. So please stop being a fascist.
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  112. Every anti-Brexit warning comes from a pro-EU activist... Go figure!
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  113. 'Norma the Korma' wasn't spicy enough for 'Poppadom John' ... Why believe a man who lied to his wife?
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  114. When was the last time C4 interviewed a Conservative Leaver and a Labour Leaver - let alone without a single difficult question or interruption or healthy drinks and carrot cake?
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  115. This is what EU free movement has done for us. Too many people bidding for too few jobs equals low wages and too many people bidding for housing equals high rents. low wages + high rents = poverty.
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  116. Well, you're entitled to your opinion but, we had a vote and the people that shared your opinion lost. A longer campaign would have seen Leave win with a higher margin, as Remain began ahead in all polls. The probability is that a majority of those that, did not or could not vote, would want Brexit as 33.5 million actual votes is as good a sample as you're going to get.
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  117. I think you couldn't be more wrong. The people of the UK have never been interested in the EU. Probably less than 20% are willing participants - unfortunately these people have had control of the main political parties. When the UK leaves these people will be politically defeated.
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  118.  @sven4627  Who's stealing whose sandwiches?
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  119.  @Misterlikeseverythin  I think I speak for everyone in the UK if I say: We in the UK want to maintain good relations with EU countries. I think the real problem for the UK was that, we also have longstanding relationships with other countries. Yes, politics can become very unrealistic at times. The vote was close, it was not what most politicians wanted and there was a process to go through.
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  120. What about his 80 seat majority makes you think that?
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  121. Pro EU MPs should stand down as their 'vision' for our country has been rejected by the people.
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  122.  @ciaranbrk  You were talking about a "customs border" not the 'EU court of human rights' - where does it say ROI or UK must not leave the EU? What has mutual trade regulation between two separate countries have to do with 'human rights'? The 'Common Travel Area' has not been changed by Brexit.
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  123.    That's one way of skirting around the facts.
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  124.   Are you enjoying the sunshine in your wellies?
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  125.  @onsight2822  I can think of 3 people I know that have 100% changed from Remain to Leave - their main reasons are: 'Democracy', the Remain MPs refusal to implement the vote', 'the EU's attitude' and 'the UK would be pushed about and punished/humiliated if it crawled back'. I can't think of anyone I know that has changed from Leave to Remain. I also think their wives voted the same as their husbands and would also change to Leave.
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  126. Haven't seen a video of Crick interviewing Bloom the day after the Brexit referendum...
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  127.  @nickoforesta5788  Where did she commit perjury?
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  128.  @trevordaviesable  What lies did Leave tell?
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  129.  @pudpullertm  Is it up to the customer how much the TV or sofa costs? I don't think so! It's up to DFS whether they want to allow the customer discount and up to the customer whether to buy the sofa. The UK has now decided it doesn't need a sofa or a TV as the UK is not a couch potato. The £350m figure was correct in the context of a referendum about UK independence from the EU. This is because the UK would be using this money to fund the NHS 'instead' of handing it to the EU. This has to be the case as long as NHS funding exceeds £350m per week. If you get a pay rise or stop paying a gym membership, are you or are you not using the extra in your account to pay for your groceries? https://www.statisticsauthority.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Letter-from-Sir-David-Norgrove-to-Foreign-Secretary.pdf
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  130. Voters will be asked how they voted in the referendum and if the response is to leave the EU, they will be asked: 'Why give your vote to a person who does not respect your vote?'
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  131. Give it up you pathetic losers - talk about 'flogging a dead horse' - 75% of Remain voters are OK with the result.
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  132. I wonder if Channel Fake News understands by falsely smearing Reform UK with racist slurs it makes decent fair-minded people reluctant to tell pollsters they intend to vote Reform UK. I think they will smell the coffee on Friday...
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  133. Scotland must have a similar history to Bulgaria if you can understand what she's saying.
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  134.  @williamdfr1715  Southern Irish are moochers - they have taken £50 billion out of the EU in handouts and there's only five million of them.
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  135. One of my main reasons for voting out was to put an end to a minority of political class dividing our nation. If you go to most countries you find peoples with one object; to make their countries better places. We need to come together around our Union Flag and show the world how to live.
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  136. So, the EU doesn't allow EU people to watch UK bands and somehow this is the UK's fault?
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  137. People like him claiming to have voted Leave should have their ballot papers dug out.
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  138.  @titanstonecrusher8917  WW2 was about countries coming together to defeat Hitler. Everyone knew that Germany was murdering innocent civilians.
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  139. The electorate did not vote for this deal. The word 'deal' was not on the ballot paper. The people voted to 'leave'. The choice was to clearly mark a 'LEAVE' box or a 'REMAIN' box. The Oxford Dictionary definition of 'leave' is "Depart from permanently" . The referendum was not an exercise in proportional representation it was very clearly winner takes all... What's not to understand?
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  140. You didn't listen to the video which clearly said: "This 300 mile stretch will be the brand new external border of the European Union" You followed the bitter mob and turned your back on the UK to become a non-entity in the European Union. Hope that works out for you.
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  141. Aminah Saleem What point are you trying to make?
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  142. FutureSoundStation 'further enhancing the division of wealth' .....What the f*** is that supposed to mean?
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  143. FutureSoundStation  Agreed many in UKIP are the same set that supported Thatcher and Heath (who ironically joined the UK to the EU after pledging not to). It was 'Old' Labour that opposed EU membership and gave the people an in/out vote. Thatcher opposed the idea of referendum saying the British people were too ignorant to understand the issues. There is now opposition to membership on both the left an right. I see proposed UKIP domestic policy as a distraction, the fundamental issue, is whether the UK would be better of as an independent country. What UK lefties don't get is what if the boot is on the other foot and they don't like EU policy....'Independence' is a word with a meaning.  
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  144. FutureSoundStation  So hardly an 'enhanced' situation then.
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  145. FutureSoundStation My point is many on the left support withdrawal from the EU. That it’s a fundamental issue which supersedes partisan politics. A recent poll showed that 52% thought UK would be better off out of EU a figure set within the context of a pro EU government and opposition parties and pro EU news media and actually being in the EU. We are one of the largest economies yet apparently the EU and UK governments have never wanted the UK to adopt the Euro...Really?? They've wanted/want the UK in the eurozone aright - they just know the British people would never agree to it in a referendum and that would reveal the underlying reality that the British people don't want to be a part of the EU superstate project. Which of course, is why the UK is being topped up with 'yes to EU' voters.
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  146. +GeorgeAmsterdam How can 'the working class have more rights than anyone else'? What a completely stupid statement! We don't have rights as per social class you total dummy! And who do you think paid for Cameron to have a plant removed from his chimney? Or should I say our chimney because we probably paid for that too!
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  147. Ophelia De Beaufort So who told you the BBC and C4 are left leaning? It wouldn't by chance be the same people that told you Chuka Umunna was the feared candidate would it? The BBC and C4 are very pro Tory and I don't blame anyone for thinking otherwise because it's all very well executed. You have to balance your argument that the BBC is left leaning with the fact its political editor was chairman of the Young Conservatives and president of the Oxford University Conservative Association and his deputy was at Eton with Cameron and ten years with The Times. So even before any analysis there would have to the assumption that these people have not become left-wing propagandists as they've matured.  
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  148. Barry Allen He was there for one reason only. The Tories are rattled by Corbyn's popularity. Even if C4 was in on it so they can use the line 'The Tories voted for Corbyn and we even found one at a meeting'.....It still amounts to the same thing - they're scared.
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  149. Ophelia De Beaufort Just look at BBC coverage today clearly suggesting three pound supporters will give Corbyn the edge. Corbyn has most constituency support voted by rank and file door knocking members - but did the BBC want to mention that?....Nooooooooooo! It's all propaganda serving the super rich.
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  150. autofreak7 The government should buy-up/do-up apartment blocks in London and supply an apartment for each constituency and an office with a paid secretary in each constituency and let MPs manage their own house buying like they expect everyone else to do.
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  151. ***** Of course it's a given that Tory MPs and their 'privatise publicly owned assets ideology' represents a majority of the electorate - in spite of the fact that 60% of said electorate consistently voted against privatisation of said assets. And of course it's a given that ' all veterans' are royalists'. Have you actually asked the war dead what they think? I don't think so! So shut up about what you presume they died for.
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  152. ***** You stated that the electorate did not share the opinion of Labour Party members. I pointed out that the electorate did not share the opinion of the Conservative Party members and provided evidence that this is the case on fundamental policy. There is also evidence that 70% now support reversal of that fundamental policy so the evidence shows the electorate fundamentally supports Corbyn. My grandfathers' and father's military service amounts to more than 60 years - they all voted Labour for the things Corbyn stands for.
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  153. autofreak7 We are yet to see whether a Labour Party manifesto written by Corbyn will be supported. You mention ordinary voters, but what about the millions that don't vote because there's been nothing to vote for? You mention the EU but it was Labour and the Unions that opposed joining. Corbyn is compared to Foot, but take a look at Foot's 1983 manifesto it said Labour would leave EU.  
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  154. ***** I'm talking about politicians dispossessing the public of public property that has never been sanctioned by the public. Corbyn always opposed this and recent polls have shown 70% the public think we should renationalise transport, power, water and not sell off the NHS. I never said your grandfather wasn't a monarchist, but I suspect if he had been born in a republic he would not have been looking for a monarch to bow to....What's your point?   
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  155. ***** Where have I stated that either my grandfathers or me were/are not monarchists? You either respond to my words or you argue with yourself.
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  156. autofreak7 Did the 'Corbyn factor' help the Tories in the Oldham West and Royton by-election? It seems the frenzy of the right-wing media has only served to strengthen Corbyn.
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  157. ***** The 70% is from recent survey. You say you are one of them - that you would like to see public ownership and control of transport and NHS. The British people did own and control oil, gas, electricity, trains, rail, buses, ports, post office, telecom, council housing. It's all been taken from the people and handed to the super rich - bit-by-bit so the people wont notice (remember Thatcher; 'We would never sell the Post Office). Well they have and they will sell the NHS too! Because they want a super rich minority to own and control everything. But you think it's OK and even though you don't agree with this inconvenience you will let them continue because you 'despise' Corbyn based on what you have learned about him from media sources that are owned by super rich who all support the things you say you oppose. And then you tell me I'm talking 'rubbish'....
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  158. ***** A political party must develop policy to avoid becoming stuck in the past.
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  159. The reverse of what this woman is saying is true, as many people are wishing they had had the courage to vote Leave, because the can now see that Project Fear was no more than scaremongering and that that scaremongering is the direct cause of a temporary loss of confidence in the UK.
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  160. Mums and nans will do anything for their 'little darlings' even vote for them not to be saddled with debt.
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  161. I think the 'fear and intimidation' thing must be very genuine - else why would Jess Phillips be having a safe room installed in her constituency office? Only a lying Trotskyite would be so cynical as to ask: Why would she alert would-be assailants to her having a safe room by informing the press that she now has a safe room?
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  162. macabre2007 It's called 'satire' - a lot of people use it in the comments section as you cant throw custard pies. The point I was attempting to make is that if a person was genuinely fearful of attack, they would not advertise the fact they had a safe room, as a safe room is always a pre-emptive means of escape. The fact that Jess Phillips has informed the press reveals that she is not really fearful of attack. But is attempting to associate those that disagree with her politics with extreme violent acts. 
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  163. macabre2007 Wow! You actually don't understand humour.
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  164. Talking of 'weakness' and 'cowardice' - why is Mrs May refusing to debate Mr Corbyn?
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  165. It doesn't look good when the Tories demanded a TV leaders debate when they were in opposition and then refuse to participate when in power... Not a very 'British' way of behaving.
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  166. But when David Cameron was leader of the opposition, he argued it was vital for democracy that, he was able to publicly challenge Gordon Brown in a TV debate. Then when Cameron was prime minister he refused to participate in a TV debate with the leader of the Labour Party. Theresa May is playing the same cowardly trick, as she is obviously afraid to go head to head with Jeremy Corbyn and wants to deny the electorate democracy. You claim Tory policies are good, but you don't explain why the leader of the Tory Party is afraid to publicly defend Tory policies with someone who offers the electorate alternative policies.
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  167. Perhaps not, but we're being told now that 'Corbyn wants to take us back to the 1970s'... I remember the 1970s and working class people were much better off... Rent for a council house was a day's wage and that included water charges and council tax. Unemployment was much lower and the term 'long term unemployed' had not been invented. A job meant 40+ hours a week and the term 'job for life' was commonplace. A single unskilled wage could keep a family and buy a house. Wives worked for 'pin money' University education was free. A British citizen owned half the economy. Public transport was more affordable. Coal, gas, electricity and petrol was more affordable. Those are the real reasons the wealthy don't want to go back to the 1970s!
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  168.  @Brindale  Remoaners are such a drag - wish they would all take a bus ride off a cliff - like they promised to.
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  169. When Jane Hill was speaking live about the BBC protest, she said the protesters believed the BBC was "too biased". Her expression immediately conceded that this had been a Freudian slip of gigantic proportion, as she had revealed live that she was aware of the BBC's partial stance on the question of Scottish independence....Because of course it is no more possible to be too biased than to be too guilty.    
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  170. Paxman asked Miliband about 'toughness' but did not ask Cameron why he refused to debate Miliband one to one.
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  171. Tiger Custardman So - who do you think NHS services should be available free of charge to?
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  172. Tiger Custardman That's not an answer to the question.
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  173. She seems quite good at campaigning for herself... I say this, because there was no sign of her during the EU referendum. Could she have been hiding away so she could emerge on the wining side and be the next prime minister?
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  174. I like the way the UK media holds the Tories to account on welfare cuts - after the general election.
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  175. The Tories are currently predicted to win 20 parliamentary seats from the Lib Dems in 2015 - and this twit thinks the Lib Dems are 'a party of government'.......   
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  176. +suziecreamchease You think laying a wreath on behalf of the Labour Party is the same as fucking a pig?
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  177. Jeremy Corbyn got 1.5 million more votes in 2017 than David Cameron did in 2015.
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  178. Actually, that's not true. Most people in prison pled guilty to the charge and of those that pled not-guilty, most do not contest their conviction as being wrongful.
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  179. 37% of the national vote = 51% of MPs = illegitimate government.
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  180. Reuel T It would not be a Conservative majority government. And under PR many would vote differently so it's not possible to transpose votes between systems. Under FPTP we have a situation where the representatives of 63% of the electorate can not defeat the representatives of 37% of the electorate....Some 'democracy'. 
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  181. ***** That's immaterial. Why do you think it could matter?
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  182. ***** I voted - but not for the party I wanted to see in government. That's the thing with our so-called 'democracy', it's not possible to know what the electorate wants because the system forces people to vote for what they don't want and not to vote at all - this is the problem.
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  183. ***** What exactly is 'least damage supposed to mean? As far as the voting system goes, I think it is highly probable that we will change to PR because people are seeing that the current system is not democratic. The Telegraph has recently described the following 4 things as being “advantages” of the first past the post system (FPTP). I have provided some reasons why these so-called advantages are detrimental to the United Kingdom having a true democracy. 1) “It is easy to understand”... FPTP can appear simple, but only because its is not easily understood. For instance many people do not realise that if a person did not vote for the successful candidate their vote is automatically disregarded. Or that many of those who understand FPTP are put off voting because they believe their preferred candidate will not win and their vote will be disregarded. How many people are really aware that in each constituency every losing vote will count for nothing, along with every vote bar one in the winning candidate's majority. 2) “It can be quick to count the votes and declare a winner”... This is at best a moot point, as everyone knows that all voting systems require every vote to be counted. In any case it's hardly an issue if a better way to elect a five-year government takes a little longer to announce the results. 3) “Voters can express a clear view on which party they want in government”... This is true of every voting system with the exception of FPTP, this is because FPTP forces many to vote against a party they dislike and not for the party they would like to be in government. This is known as 'tactical voting' and is employed to reduce the possibility of a vote being disregarded and thus wasted. 4) “In a two-party system, it has normally produced a single-party government with a clear mandate to govern”... Firstly, we do not have a two-party system. Secondly, if the election method is not representative, then a 'clear mandate' actually constitutes unwarranted power. Under FPTP the 1997 General Election elected 418 Labour members of parliament (out of 650) for a 43% share of the national vote. In the 1980s FPTP delivered similarly unrepresentative majorities for the Conservative Party. 5) “It is a fair and democratic system”... No, the Telegraph didn't state this as being an advantage of FPTP - I added it for a joke!  
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  184. ***** The Telegraph has recently described the following 4 things as being “advantages” of the first past the post system (FPTP). I have provided some reasons why these so-called advantages are detrimental to the United Kingdom having a true democracy. 1) “It is easy to understand”... FPTP can appear simple, but only because its is not easily understood. For instance many people do not realise that if a person did not vote for the successful candidate their vote is automatically disregarded. Or that many of those who understand FPTP are put off voting because they believe their preferred candidate will not win and their vote will be disregarded. How many people are really aware that in each constituency every losing vote will count for nothing, along with every vote bar one in the winning candidate's majority. 2) “It can be quick to count the votes and declare a winner”... This is at best a moot point, as everyone knows that all voting systems require every vote to be counted. In any case it's hardly an issue if a better way to elect a five-year government takes a little longer to announce the results. 3) “Voters can express a clear view on which party they want in government”... This is true of every voting system with the exception of FPTP, this is because FPTP forces many to vote against a party they dislike and not for the party they would like to be in government. This is known as 'tactical voting' and is employed to reduce the possibility of a vote being disregarded and thus wasted. 4) “In a two-party system, it has normally produced a single-party government with a clear mandate to govern”... Firstly, we do not have a two-party system. Secondly, if the election method is not representative, then a 'clear mandate' actually constitutes unwarranted power. Under FPTP the 1997 General Election elected 418 Labour members of parliament (out of 650) for a 43% share of the national vote. In the 1980s FPTP delivered similarly unrepresentative majorities for the Conservative Party. 5) “It is a fair and democratic system”... No, the Telegraph didn't state this as being an advantage of FPTP - I added it for a joke!
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  185. ***** Because as you point out it seemed to work when there was a two party system. We now have several parties, but what's crucial to democracy is that everyone’s vote counts. If the politicians are forced to get along - then so be it.
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  186. iSk00L Into a bit of existentialism are we?  
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  187. Anthony Meursault If you look at the facts you will see that the right in the Labour movement has suppressed the left. First the gang of four and the SDP split the working class vote and then when that would no longer work the right took over the Labour Party. We've had years of LibDems pretending to be left of Fidel Castro to split the vote and then put in the Tories and back privatisations. Of course now they're all 'left-wing' again. The point is Labour would have won in 83 if it wasn't for SDP and SDP/Liberal claimed to oppose Tory privatisations and 16 million voted against privatisations - 13 million voted Tory. It's all a con-trick facilitated by a first-past-the-post non-democracy. 
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  188. You do realise that the Tories haven't won a general election since 1992. If they couldn't win last time what makes you think they're going to win in 2015?
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  189. WorkingClassTories This is the way I see those factors: 1, Labour's lead is small but FPTP is just like horse racing - only have to win by a nose to get the cup. Economy - the economy was growing in 2010 it didn't help the government then - I doubt it will this time. Yes more people will say they trust the Tories on the economy but many will still vote Labour. As for increasing employment....Where? 2, Yes many voters are becoming concerned over immigration, but these people are mostly Tory voters switching to UKIP.  Some will go back but many will not and this will cost the Tories seats in marginals. 3, True Ed is not Blair. But the Labour vote is holding up and though many Labour voters would have preferred a different leader they will still vote Labour. Also he has the advantage being a PM in waiting ahead in the polls - Cameron is looking like a loser having to hang on not able to chance a snap election. 4, The Lib Dem collapse is the left of the party that now has one choice to keep the Tories out. True (if opinion polls can be applied evenly the Tories stand to win 20 -30 seats from Lib Dems but there may be tactical voting in these constituencies because these are the Tory hating defectors. It's more probable the Lib Dem defect will be greater where Labour stand to win. 5, IN/OUT EU Labour has enough support to win so isn't bothered at the mo. 6, Scotland - We'll have to wait and see. 7, True Labour will not win in certain areas - it doesn't matter. In FPTP it's 'miss an inch just as well miss a mile'. 8, I don't think enough ex Tory voters will go back - most people don't understand our electoral system and vote for who they want to run the country. Also Tory party membership has halved in the last 7 years. Anyway didn't the Tories say we should vote for the party we want to win - in the AV referendum? Whatever we think the independent experts (Electoral Calculus) are now predicting a Labour majority of 48.         
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  190. Did she say she didn't support Corbyn because she was a 'bagoftits'
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  191. But, Scotland will not be independent if it is a minor member of the EU... She's whining that Brexit will make Scotland more independent, because she wants Scotland to be less independent in the name of Scottish independence.
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  192. Scottish pound note is just a Bank of England pound note with a kilt on.
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  193. Well it is, but don't let that stop you.
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  194. +HoldOnToYourTails It worked for the ban tax credit campaign.
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  195. Rab C failed last time and Mary Doll will fail next time.
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  196. idiot!
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  197. Yes he did! Which is why you went for vague instead of specific.
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  198. Also, there is the matter of modern weaponry that was not available when nukes were first developed. Today, bombs use sat nav and ring the doorbell which means all the despot's palaces can be razed, making despot look like a muppet.
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  199. Lloyd Harrington Doesn’t look like Cameron can win though - even with your vote.
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  200. Lloyd Harrington When you say the 'Conservatives will win' what do you mean exactly?
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  201. David Sanderson You're the naive one! There is no need to sway all 11m to win and if it doesn't work they wouldn't do it.
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  202. Silly ass!
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  203. 'They' should never have schemed to join the UK to the EU federal project - it was never in their power to do so, because there is no reason to assume the UK electorate ever wanted it.
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  204. tomlinid Compared to what though? Who can really say what our future inside the EU would look like? As a country we are wealthy so the world sees us as a potential customer also our expertise and standards are well renowned making our exports viable. So in theory we should be able make a go of it. I'm reasonably confident that the EU is not really in a position to punish the UK if indeed it wanted to, as we do buy a lot from EU countries. I think we need to get over this 'second referendum' stage and just get on with it. Like anything worth doing - there are some risks/regrets involved, but you make it work. At 52-48 I personally think we've had a close escape.
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  205. Does anyone recognise the newspaper he was reading? - I bet it wasn't The Sun!
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  206. I think he was referring to when Starmer asked the speaker to break parliament rules because Islamists had threatened his MPs. So 'controlled' in a coercive way...
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  207.  craighart9278 Would Khan allow some Jewish protesters project 'Wipe Palestine Off The Map' on the UK parliament for the world to see? It cannot be disputed those who projected and lauded 'From The River to the Sea Palestine will Be Free' were inciting ethnic cleansing of Israeli Jews, which is racial hatred.
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  208.  EMINƎM  Why weres he going?
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  209. Jess Phillips had a 'safe room'  installed in her constituency office and then announced this in the press. This really does prove this is all 'humbug' contrived for affect. Why would someone who was genuinely frightened of physical violence want a would-be assailant to know they had a 'safe room'?
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  210.  @thinkforyourself358  What you are arguing is nonsense. If a person was intent on attacking someone and they knew their target had a safe room they would be non-threatening up until the attack. There's absolutely no deterrent value in publicising the existence of a safe room and to suggest otherwise is absurd. It's no different to a woman writing: 'There's a rape alarm in here' on her hand bag. It's obvious this is a slimy tactic to make them appear the righteous victims of bad people - when really, it is their own political vision and their own actions that is causing the division. Oh! And this is what the Remain supporting Guardian said about the Remain call to throw corrosive acid over Nigel Farage: "The reaction to her acid joke was hysterical and out of all proportion."
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  211.  @thinkforyourself358  As I say, the idea of advertising a safe room as a deterrent is plainly absurd. Are you saying that a person would not attack because their target would already be in the safe room or would run to the safe room? Either is completely illogical. It is very clear that this is all a propaganda tactic intended to portray Remainers as the good folk and anyone opposing their good intentions and good deeds as being the bad people. It gives the Remain 'news' media plenty to work with. It's so obvious, it's pathetic. Let's face it, it's all too easy to make up text messages, letters and the like. I don't believe it for a moment. Remainers are being exposed for what they really are and their fantasy world is about to come crashing down on them.
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  212. In 1940 we did not import anything from Europe and German U boats were sinking British cargo ships.
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  213. The referendum was grossly unfair. MPs handed the decision as to whether the UK should remain or leave the EU to the UK electorate. Having done so MPs/MEPs/etc. should not have been allowed to campaign with undue party political influence. The very reason MPs handed this matter to the electorate was that since the main UK parties were pro-EU, the electorate had not had reasonable opportunity to vote on the single issue of increasing political union with Europe. Therefore, each of the main parties of government should have selected a set number of representatives to campaign for each side and those not selected should have been prevented from actively campaigning. The fact that a majority of UK politicians representing the Conservative Party, Labour Party, Scottish National Party, Liberal Democratic Party, Plaid Cymru, Green Party, Sinn Fein could not achieve a +50% majority on a matter of fundamental national importance is democratically perverse.
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  214.  @leapsplashafrog  Yes, but democracy is supposed to be fair - read my comment again.
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  215. It's completely irrational to question manmade climate change, because science tells us the earth is 5.6 billion years old and science has been recording earth temperatures for 150 years.
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  216.  @typ044  So, when you state: "we can determine climate change cycles going back many millions of years" - are you saying there was climate change before man started using fossil fuels?
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  217.  @typ044  So, you are saying at points in the last (4.6b or 6.6b) years the earth experienced heating cycles - but these were all slower than the current heating cycle - and this proves human activity is responsible for the difference. Am I correct - and if so, how do you calculate the difference?
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  218.  @typ044  I note that you slipped in "we are causing" as though this was somehow a fact. How has it been proven that human activity causes climate change?
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  219.  @typ044  I haven't said human activity is not causing climate change. I would not say that, because there is no proof that human activity is not causing climate change. There is also no proof that human activity is causing climate change - so I would not say that either. I'm not the type to go around making claims that are not proven. Really, you just made a false claim I said something I did not say - so you could say I was wrong for saying it. Bit odd - don't you think? Odd people go around making false claims and made up claims they have no proof for - and when they are challenged to provide the proof - they make personal attacks.
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  220.  @typ044  Science is not a democracy - it's a science - it's supposed to arrive at conclusions based on proof - not opinion. My first comment is entirely rational. You assume I have done zero studies without proof.
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  221.  @typ044  "By the lights of our best science these are irrational - if the goal is our best understanding of objective reality" Steven Plinker talking about claims that science is wrong on manmade climate change and covid vaccination. "making it completely rational to question whether or not we are contributing to the acceleration of climate change" (Gettin Radd & Fuggin Bustn)
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  222. As you write English so well, I'll give you a free lesson: 'who's' (who is) or (who has) 'whose' (belonging to). Examples: Who's thrown the ball on the roof? Whose ball is the on the roof? Who's going to get the ball off the roof?
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  223.  @CharalamposKoundourakis  I agree, as in time everyone in the world will speak only English. Many young people now speak only English with their friends and their native language with their parents, one day they will be the parents. We can get sentimental about losing languages, but if they are disadvantageous, there's no longer any real point to knowing them.
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  224.  @CharalamposKoundourakis  There are no authoritative powers able to control language. People will always learn and use the language which is most beneficial to them. The internet and greater international travel is making the world a less sparse place.
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  225.  @CharalamposKoundourakis  As far as Theresa May knocking on doors goes. She's attempting the same tactic that, got us into this mess - taking advantage of the fact 60% of the electorate do not care about the EU, because they are too thick to analyse the implications. However, we are now sailing through a changed sea.
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  226. MPs are just 1/100 000 - as there are 650 MPs and 65 000 000 people in the UK. They go on about 'the country being divided' but would the country be divided if MPs hadn't taken us into the EU? Where is the evidence the people ever asked to be a part of a united states of Europe?
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  227. Newsflash: Experts are predicting if the UK crashes out with no-deal project fear will stop working.
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  228. Perhaps people like you were gullible in believing that, 'the UK would never join the euro' or that, 'Turkey would never join the EU' or that, 'there would never be an EU army' or that, 'the UK rebate would never end' or that, 'the UK 'had EU immigration controls' or that, 'there would be an emergency budget' or that, 'there would be World War Three'..
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  229. Who's caused this division? When did the British people ask to be part of a united states of Europe? These handful of MPs with their sneaky we know better than everyone 'vision' have done all of this.
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  230. It was a fictitious reference to a fictitious TV show - there is a lot of hatred toward Meghan, because many find her behaviour despicable. It is not unusual to use fiction to describe feelings about public figures. If you google 'Boris Johnson naked cartoons' you will find images of a naked Boris covered in excrement, but apparently this is OK, presumably, because Boris is male, white and pro UK. Do the same people complain when Meghan mocks Queen Elizabeth and the British people with a fictitious 'theme park' curtsy?
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  231. The committee will be 'hopping' mad about this...
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  232.  @timsmith2279  They're going to 'box' his ears...
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  233. This is Remain at its best - converting people to the Leave side.
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  234.  @peterrobinson9168  'done and dusted'
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  235. This is a 'remainers love everyone' themed interview.
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  236.  @marcysss93  Yes, but all of the main UK parties had a 'UK in EU' policy and because of the 'first past the post' voting system the voters were not really able to vote for a 'Brexit' party. (In 2015 12.6% voted Brexit party for 0 MPs - PR system would have given 81/650 MPs) This is the reason MPs overwhelmingly voted to hand the decision as to UK/EU membership directly to the electorate. In the referendum MPs had one vote - the same as every other voter and were clearly willing to implement the Remain option. Therefore, it is unequivocal that, in attempting to prevent Brexit, MPs are acting against the democratic will of the electorate.
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  237.  @seriousthree6071  So what 'lie' have the Brexiteers told - you should be able to cite an example and prove it to be untrue, as you have made the assertion. And how could Brexiteers 'deliver' anything when they have not been in a position to do so?
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  238.  @JerehmiaBoaz  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3jqhWLWkAE7sZs.jpg
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  239.  @RobHughesLondon  No I don't, but I don't see Brexit as being about Labour or Tory and there's no reason why Labour should not be in power in a post Brexit UK. To me the bus just said 'let's keep our money and spend it in the UK on things we need'. I think this is a reasonable assessment and not untrue in respect of NHS spending... You shouldn't make the same 'mistake' as the UK Statistics Authority and change the word "instead" to "extra" as these are different words with different meanings. https://content.assets.pressassociation.io/2017/09/17142145/fdc44f00ffb9ac85d18e1893db9ab10f-1080x1080.jpg
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  240.  @seriousthree6071  What you are saying is flawed. The matter was looked at by the Chair of the UK Statistics Authority, Sir David Norgrove and he did not say the figure was a lie. What he did do was change the word "instead" to "extra" in an obvious 'straw man' designed to discredit the referendum result. What does "faces a court trial over it" even mean? If the bus was a lie they would have said something during the campaign - instead they developed the lie that the bus was a lie afterwards. Here's a challenge for you: Read my comments and actually prove anything I have said is factually incorrect.
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  241.  @seriousthree6071  Are you arguing if the Leave bus said 'We give the EU £200m each week to spend in other counties - let's spend it in the UK instead' then Remain would have won? Perhaps Remain should have put this on their bus...
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  242.  @seriousthree6071  But, he did NOT say the figure was INCORRECT did he? You seem to think he missed something - what do you think he missed?
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  243.  @seriousthree6071  Can you point me to where is states: 'A voter must not vote in the referendum unless they have 'read some news papers' 'watched some TV' 'read some leaflets' 'attended a rally'? As far as the Northern Ireland border is concerned, can you give me one factual reason why the border cannot operate in a Brexit that is acceptable to Leave voters?
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  244.  @RobHughesLondon  I think the NHS was used as it is such a huge government expenditure exceeding £350m pew week and the UK was borrowing more than this amount to to fund it. It was something which affects everyone and seen as being under threat. The point is, even if after a no-deal Brexit a Tory government was spending the same or somewhat less on the NHS. We would still be 'funding' the NHS 'instead' of sending money to the EU and having to borrow less to do so.
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  245.  @seriousthree6071  The bus message was not a lie and I have proved it was not a lie. I know you want it to be a lie - but saying it's a lie nicely doesn't make it a lie. If you look at the government leaflet - it clearly states the UK will not join the euro - are you saying that every Remain politician was campaigning for this? Or was this a lie?
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  246.  @seriousthree6071  The referendum was grossly unfair - but Leave still won.
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  247.  @seriousthree6071  https://morningstaronline.co.uk/a-78a1-why-you-should-back-no2eu
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  248.  @seriousthree6071  So, why was the 'referendum a fraud' ?
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  249.  @seriousthree6071  Pro-Remain groups which “made referendum interventions have received €160 million from the [European] Commission in the last nine years” according to a report from 2016. The groups, including the International Monetary Fund, the National Farmers Union, Standard & Poors, the National Union of Students, and a number of Britain’s trades unions, received tens of millions of euros from Brussels, some of which bled into the referendum campaign.There has been little to no scrutiny over this massive amount of cash either before, during, nor after the Brexit referendum.
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  250.  @seriousthree6071  You do realise Nigel Farage is not an MP and not in a position to change the way the NHS operates? A change like that would require a UK government to gain a majority of MPs. Oh, and 'might' also means 'might not'.... There 'might' be a monster under your bed tonight! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  251.  @williamdew7143  How do explain Parker saying he was 'goaded' to make racist comments when there are no recordings of genuine canvassers making racist comments?
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  252. Brexiteers need to start asking for a second in/out referendum, because it would destroy Remoaners for good.
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  253. Most of 'our' MPs have always been working for the EU.
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  254. I understand people need to evacuate a warzone, but Ukraine is twice the size of Germany and there are very safe areas in Ukraine for Ukrainians to live.
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  255. He starts off on the wrong foot with: "Well, I think..." Because no one is interested in what he thinks. John Major and Tony Blair are just yesterday's fools with the wrong vision for the UK.
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  256. Who cares if some MPs want the UK to remain in the EU. The people have decided and MPs can get on with what we pay them for.
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  257. The Remoaners like Channel 4 'News' always harp on about how Leave would have wanted a second referendum based on Nigel Farage saying something like, a narrow win for Remain would be 'unfinished business'. However, they are knowingly comparing two very different things here. Nigel Farage was then leader of a political party that had long campaigned for Brexit, so, in those circumstances there would be no democratic incongruity for that campaign to continue. On the other hand, parliament had voted almost unanimously to hand the decision as to whether the UK should remain a member of the EU directly and very democratically to the electorate. The government had asked the electorate to vote Remain, but promised to carry out the final decision. This is how prominent Remain supporter, Lord Paddy Ashdown described the vital importance of democracy whilst the votes were being counted: “Here’s the single point: Those that asked for this and I was the first leader ever to ask for a referendum way back in 89/90, have said so because they believe it to be an act of democracy. I will forgive no one who does not accept the sovereign voice of the British people once it has spoken. Whether it’s by 1% or 20%, once they’ve taken it, it is our duty, as those who serve the public to make the best use and to make sure that our country does the best it can with the decision the people have given us. I’ve heard Mr Farage say tonight: ‘We’re coming back even if we lose’. Excuse me! He’s the person that complained about lack of democracy in Europe! If he will not accept the sovereign voice of the British people, whatever they say, then I think he does not have the national interest at heart.” (Lord Paddy Ashdown 24 June 2016)
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  258. If the official policy is to stop it then it shouldn't be happening - it's not difficult to find and puncture a 30 ft inflatable boat. I understand people want to live in the UK, but there has to be some control and that means people getting deported.
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  259.  @marccas10  To be fair we did stop our politicians sending Eastern Europeans to take our jobs, housing, hospitals and schools...
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  260. So what if the members of the Labour Party wants the UK to be in the EU! The referendum proved the Conservative Party, Labour Party, Scottish National Party, Liberal Democrat Party, Plaid Cymru, Sinn Fein and the Green Party want the UK to be in the EU and the 'people' do not. Why do the members want to nail their leaders to the mast of a sinking ship?
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  261. I suppose if you have your head stuck up your rear end you might believe things are better since Thatcher. Here's some facts: In 1980 a single unskilled wage could keep a family and buy a house. There was no long term unemployment. There was no mass unemployment. A 'job' meant '40 hours per week for life'. Council houses were easy to get. Council house rent was one day's unskilled wage. Council rent included water/sewage charges and council tax. A basic house cost three times a year's unskilled wage. University education was free and grant assisted. The people owned the trains, coal, water, telecommunications, gas, oil, social housing, post office etc. .... Go figure!
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  262. So, Brexit is like the UK not being in the EU... Good! That's what I voted for!
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  263. You just did - you plonker!
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  264. Pro EU MPs should have stood down when they lost the referendum, as their 'vision' for the UK was rejected by the people... 52% is enough to oust any MP.
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  265.  @undogmatisch5873  It has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Recently in Australia some politicians were forced to stand down when it was revealed they held dual nationality. How can we trust pro EU MPs are working in the national interest?
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  266.  @undogmatisch5873  What lies? It's remoaners that have lied.
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  267. @Night ShadeThey said the bus message was a lie.
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  268.  @undogmatisch5873  The referendum was grossly unfair for this reason. MPs handed the decision as to whether the UK should remain or leave the EU to the UK electorate. Having done so MPs should not have been allowed to campaign with undue party political influence. The very reason MPs handed this matter to the electorate was that since the main UK parties were pro-EU, the electorate had not had reasonable opportunity to vote on the single issue of increasing political union with Europe. Therefore, each of the main parties of government should have been allowed a set number of representatives to campaign for each side and those not selected should have been prevented from actively campaigning. The fact that a majority of UK politicians representing the Conservative Party, Labour Party, Scottish National Party, Liberal Democratic Party, Plaid Cymru, Green Party, Sinn Fein could not achieve a +50% majority on a matter of fundamental national importance is democratically perverse.
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  269.  @undogmatisch5873  Remainers always use terms like 'Leave lied' but they never specify or provide proof that Leave actually lied.
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  270.  @undogmatisch5873  I cannot deal with all of that on here. The first point is easy as the then prime minister confirmed that, voting leave would mean voting to leave the single market and customs union. The second point is more complex, but easy when understood. The message contained a statement of fact: "We send the EU 350 million per week" and a suggestion: "let's fund the NHS instead". The statement of fact appears to be accurate, as the UK does send this amount to the EU (confirmed by the UK Statistics Authority). Whilst, it is true that, the EU returns and uses some of this money for projects in the UK, this fact does not alter the validity of the original fact and this is particularly so, given the context of the 'Brexit' referendum. This first part of the bus message is therefore, not a lie. Now the 'suggestion'. A 'suggestion' or ‘proposal’ cannot be a statement of 'fact' under any circumstances, so this part of the bus message cannot be adjudged to be 'false'. Also a 'suggestion' cannot be a 'promise' so there can be no expectation that the terms of a suggestion should be carried out by the person that made the suggestion or by a person that, concurred with the suggestion. So this part of the bus message is not a lie. In pure fiscal terms, the bus message was entirely accurate, as the saving would be always used to 'fund the NHS' for as long as NHS was state funded and expenditure exceeded 350 million per week. This is because all government spending comes from the same coffer; moreover, the government currently borrows more than this amount to meet its spending commitments. The referendum was not a general election, the Leave supporting MPs were not going to form a government and the public fully understood this. Indeed, the only people complaining the NHS has not received this money are people that, voted to keep sending it to the EU. An example of a message that is an actual lie, is the claim made repeatedly by the Remain supporting media and Remain activists that, 'the EU funds the UK' in various ways. Of course, this is fiscally impossible, as the facts easily prove the UK has always funded the EU. The Remainers, 'news' media and the letter from the UK Statistics Authority have used the word "extra"in order to challenge the bus message. This is deliberately misleading, as the bus message did not say 'extra' it actually said "instead" which is materially different in meaning to "extra". So the bus message was really saying: 'If we don't give our money to the EU we will have this extra money to fund our NHS'. This is not the same as saying: 'We will give the NHS extra money' it is clearly saying: 'We will have extra money to fund the NHS'. As I stated earlier the UK currently borrows more than £350m per week, so this extra money will be very useful in ensuring adequate funding of the NHS is sustainable. I have explained this in as simple a way possible. Of course, it is not helpful when the Remain side have lied so much.
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  271. ​ @Darkwintre  I don't see Brexit in Labour/Conservative terms, as the extremists in both parties have been against the UK's membership. Labours 1983 manifesto actually promised immediate Brexit. If we left on WTO terms the UK electorate could still vote in a Corbyn government.
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  272. The only solution would be to leave the EU and rejoin the UK and hope the stronger UK people get tough on immigration - but I assume this would be too much Irish pride to swallow. Ireland is now 5 million people in a political union of 450 million people so Brussels is deciding Ireland's future.
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  273. What about being 5 million people in a union of 450 million people are you not getting?
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  274.  @john-fr5yd  Canada, Australia and New Zealand are nations with majority European descent.
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  275. There's no advantage to being used as a EU road bridge - we don't want it - we're not in the EU - what's not to get?
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  276.  @room101b7 There was no Leave manifesto because the referendum was not a general election and the Leave team were not going to form a government with a majority of Leave MPs. Had this been the case we would have left by now on a deal that would have satisfied Leave voters. The customs union is more than a trading bloc and very different from the common market we voted to stay in in 1975 - it's unlikely the EU could offer any permanent concessions - so your point does not hold up.
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  277. Since 2016 the people of the UK have been subjected to a non-stop negative establishment propaganda campaign designed to install fear over leaving the EU. Even if this poll is accurate (with a 2% margin for error), they will understand they have completely failed. There is now no credible argument for a second referendum.
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  278. +Collette Post That's a good point, but wages should be sufficient to live on. This is all about how much of life's necessities and pleasures we can afford with our wages.
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  279. Good Idea, but this is what the pro-EU do not want as they know the UK would succeed and never rejoin. If they really believed their propaganda (as it seems you do) that, the UK would suffer, they would assist the UK to leave and say: 'see you in 2 years when you come knocking to rejoin on our terms'.
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  280.  @Tridhos  I agree that all politicians are skilled at giving out information in a way that best serves their particular cause. However, suggesting there should be a referendum is not really a lie. And Farage saying he would continue campaigning for the UK to leave the EU, is quite different from MPs (that have handed the question to the electorate) not respecting the decision the electorate has given. If you look at Campbell in this interview, his very first answer/sentence is a lie: "The question would arise whether the country could unite around it" So he's responding to question about why the people should follow a second referendum with a Remain win when they should not follow the first. Who would ask that question? And how would the answer be yes? He then states: "The country just hasn't united". Well, it has united as much as it can - it's just political elites like him will not respect the vote. A referendum is never about 'uniting a country' it's always about getting a decision from a divided country. He then states: "The campaign was won on a lot of lies" which of course is not true... The whole interview is carefully crafted wordplay and deception from a man who is a master of sophistry and has made his living from it.
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  281. As always there are two sides to this and The West has not helped giving arms and supporting one side. Those arms are now escalating a futile war and causing more avoidable deaths and destruction. I am not taking sides when I say, it's not worth having WW3 over this. The EU brags of democracy - but it says the people of the UK don't know what they voted for - how's that better that what Russia has to offer?
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  282. Channel 4 'News' is not getting its way WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
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  283. He's completely clueless! 30-40 years ago there was no long term unemployed, jobs were 40 hrs p/w and a single unskilled wage could keep a family and buy a home. Today both parent have to work, claim Tax Credits to feed and clothe the kids and cannot afford to buy a home.
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  284. This 'deal' (that no one voted for) is a last ditch pro-EU attempt to keep the UK in the EU for future membership. Which is why pro-EU MPs will be told by the EU to abstain and vote in such a way to make sure it passes. The only hope for UK democracy is Brexiteers gaining control of the Tory Party.
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  285. There were no more than 10 000 people on the 'peoples march' this is what 93000 people looks like https://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/whats-on/music/ed-sheeran-wows-crowds-wembley-9635208
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  286. That's not the same at all. This is an ideological issue that is fundamental to the sovereignty of the United Kingdom. If Brexit goes ahead, the UK will become an entirely different country to that which it would had it remained in the EU... In ten years time, people like Major and Blair will be seen as traitors to the UK and they know this.
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  287. Actually, I'm beginning to change my mind too. I voted to leave, but the more I listen to the BBC, Channel 4, ITV and Sky, the more I see the UK cannot possibly survive as an independent country. We have to understand we are only 65 million people and the fifth largest economy in the world.
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  288.  @seanmoran2743  I was being sarcastic - hadn't changed my mind then - or now.
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  289.  carlos griffin  It's a mess made by a minority attempting to create a federal Europe the British people don't want to be a part of. They were warned the people would reject their vision, but they thought they knew best.
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  290. No! I mean where the parties with Brexit in their manifestos gained 85% of the national vote.
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  291. There was not 'tens of thousands' of people - an average twelve year old maths student could demonstrate from the drone footage that there was less than ten thousand people.
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  292. Mhairi where's yer kilt?
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  293. Exactly! It's like if Jimmy Saville was in charge of prosecuting Rolf Harris or some dodgy character was in charge of prosecuting Jimmy Savile...
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  294. When you need 30000 words to try to prove a lie...
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  295. She's just a typical example of the 'management class' nasty greedy people.
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  296. How much do you think the government leaflet cost? The government was elected on 37% of the electorate and spent £10m of taxpayers' money to lie to the electorate. Remain had all 'independent' government institutions, all the main political parties, all the media and TV 'news' all the financial institutions, all the economic 'experts' and all world leaders. Remain exploited the murder of a female MP, lied about WW3 and an emergency budget.... And still lost! What is it about 'the people don't want to be controlled by the EU' that you're not getting?
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  297. Why do you think the UK has five universities in the world's top twenty and the EU27 has none? Do you think this is because the UK is deficient in some way?
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  298. +Geffo Me Could you run me by the 'guarantees' of remaining in the EU?
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  299. We hapless lot in the UK buy 2.5 million new cars every year - so I'm sure Honda will maintain an interest... If not it's Honda that should be concerned eh.
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  300. If each UK national living in Spain spends 250 euros per week - that's 13 million euros each year for every thousand UK nationals. This money is UK pounds injected into the Spanish economy. It creates many jobs for Spanish people.
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  301.  @kgw72  Most would spend more and there are around a hundred thousand UK pensioners living in Spain. I don't know if you have been to these places, but all day long the skies roar with the sound of British people with fat wallets - I don't think Spain, Greece, Italy etc. will be standing in the way - do you?
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  302. Here's the problem: For the past 50 years we have had a UK political establishment with a very different vision for the future of the UK to that of the UK people. Example: Given a secret free vote probably 80% of current MPs would vote for the UK to rejoin the EU. Whereas, a 'national' rejoin march in London this weekend will likely be attended by just a few thousand people. The upshot: We have a political establishment with a different vision. Now, here's that problem: Why would our political establishment want us to think life in a non-EU UK is 'great'?
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  303.  @jait2024  It was just a joke - probably lost in translation.
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  304. Irrespective of happens with Northern Ireland; because of Brexit the whole of Ireland will be forced to choose between the UK and the anglosphere and Europe. Some now will not like or believe it, but today's young of the island of Ireland will eventually choose the UK.
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  305. @Pat Thai. Thailand Adventures "Some now will not like or believe it"
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  306. Can't believe such a stupid comment has got 213 likes...
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  307. Cameron and the Remain team and BBC, Sky, ITV, C4 did well to get 48% - they frightened a lot of people.
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  308. I did my own research on this (well, I asked a friend who is a bus driver). He told me he's heard a few people who are strongly against the Tories talking about it, but most people are moaning about it still being in the papers and on the TV News. It seems the upshot is: if you were never going to vote Tory - you're incensed - but if you were thinking of voting Tory - you've lost interest.
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  309. The prime minister of the United Kingdom just called Jewish hostages in desperate circumstances 'sausages' - let that sink in...
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  310.  @dave161256  Believe in democracy Dave as it's better than the alternatives
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  311.  @dave161256  "The public was asked an oversimplified question about a very complex issue." This is you thinking your thinking is superior to those you don't agree with - the rest of your comment is you not accepting democracy.... That's 'fascism'. The referendum was not very fair, as the Remain side had the main political parties, UK government, TV 'news' media, the supposedly impartial government institutions, the EU and other world leaders on its side.
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  312.  @dave161256  They voted to 'leave' - the word 'deal' was not on the ballot paper. The word 'leave' means: "depart from permanently" (Oxford).
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  313. Boris is obviously driven to be a great prime minister - a no-deal Brexit would provide the historic opportunity to fulfil those asperations - he seems nuts enough - and most great British leaders have been a bit nuts.
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  314.  @sashman02  We voted for change and we expected things would be different - problems are just opportunities to make improvements...
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  315. She thinks it's the EU's money
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  316. Who would you trust investing your money - someone like Tim Martin who has made a valuable business from nothing - or people who get valuable bonuses for nothing?
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  317. Propaganda
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  318. It's criminal what our political class has done to us. How much has all this cost our nation? There was never any evidence the British people wanted to be part of a united states of Europe.
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  319. Very obvious C4 deliberately turned the interviewer's sound down to humiliate Sammy Wilson. Very obvious calling him 'fanny' Wilson was deliberate too.
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  320.  @peterstill3760  Maybe it's time to put the lid on the bottle and get some rest Peter - good night.
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  321.  @mirola73  Yes, that's right, Brexit has not happened yet so no one has experienced it. You should go on Mastermind - your specialist subject could be the 'bleedin' obvious' ;o)
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  322. More people bidding for employment (when there are too few jobs) makes wages lower and working conditions worse. More people bidding for housing (when there are too few houses) makes rents and property values higher. Low wages and high rents makes a poor standard of living for most... This is why ordinary folk don't like excessive immigration and employers and landlords like excessive immigration...
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  323.  @ishaanrahman9880  You are articulate and able to make arguments that are not based entirely on reality. You use wage growth figures for a 12 month period and home ownership figures for a 40 year period. Of course, economic migrants work, but they also displace native workers that are forced onto benefits. Of course, home ownership has increased since the discounted council house sales of the 1980s. Wages might have been more in 2015 than in 2014, but is this calculated in the same way as in 1980? Whichever way you look at it, in 1980 a single unskilled wage could keep a family and buy a house and there were no Family Tax Credits and no food banks. How does this compare?
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  324.  @ishaanrahman9880  So, please explain the reason why in 1980 a single unskilled wage could keep a family and buy a house and in 2019 two incomes have to claim Tax Credits to feed and clothe the children and cannot buy a house...
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  325.  @ishaanrahman9880  This is what Wikipedia says about the selling of council houses: "being credited as the main driver of the 15% rise in home ownership, which rose from 55% of householders in 1979 to a peak of 71% in 2003 (though this figure has declined since the late 2000s to 63% in England specifically in 2017)."
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  326.  @ishaanrahman9880  It has nothing to do with immigration which is the point I am making in response to your contention that it did... you raised the issue of home ownership in relation to immigration - not me. The evidence that proves my point is houses have become more expensive and this is undeniably caused by increased demand.
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  327.  @ishaanrahman9880  Give up Ishaan - you're making a fool out of yourself.
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  328.  @ishaanrahman9880  There is no counterargument required. I made the argument that, there are too few houses in relation to the amount of people in need of housing and that this situation has increased the cost of housing. You have attempted to disprove this and have failed.
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  329. The only 'impasse' is a majority of MPs are working against the will of the people.
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  330. @kev french 16.1m voted Remain dipstick!
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  331. @kev french Which of course is exactly what you would be saying had Remain got 52%...Dipstick!
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  332. @kev french That's all pro-EU 'project fear' propaganda and you don't know what the situation would be had the UK left the EU in a way satisfactory to Leave voters two years ago.
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  333. Are you too dim to see what he's doing? When he blames people at Downing Street for 'parties' he will say: 'but you lot said the person at the top of the organisation [Starmer] is not at fault'...
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  334.  @Jim-so3zm  What you jabber about?
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  335.  @gio-oz8gf  If you look at the 2014 UK/EU elections the turnout was 35.6% - presumably in 2016 around half of those voters voted to end their participation in the EU - so, that would leave around 18% who are willing participants in the EU political project... How did you arrive at your '85%' figure?
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  336.  @foppo100  I haven't said the UK people do no wish to be European, or that they do not want to participate in Europe, or that they are disliking of European people. I would not say any of these things because I know they are not true. What I did say, is the UK people are not very interested in the political antics of the European Union. I know that most people in the UK would prefer countries in Europe to be independent democracies working with each other to reach agreements in areas of mutual interest.
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  337.  @foppo100  I think the reason we drive on the left in the UK is that most people are right handed and it's safer to keep the best hand on the steering wheel whilst changing gears. Also, a right handed person has greater visual awareness toward their right, so this is safer when giving way to moving traffic. Also, the right hand is better for handling a drive through takeaway transaction. It could stem from the days we rode horses and needed our strongest fighting arm to fend off an attack from an oncoming horseman.
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  338. C4 doesn't know it's been played - reporting Reform UK is not far-right. The UK has got the message TR is not welcome in Reform UK.
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  339. He actually said UK independence from the EU is the 'big one' lol! Maybe if 4 News reported on the recent rejoin marches in 30 places around the UK and seen that an average of 10 people attended each event - he wouldn't talk such nonsense.
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  340. Geffo Me  There's a border there now - it's called the 'Northern Ireland Border' and is the one you're talking about... It separates two different countries with different governments, currencies, flags etc.
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  341. M R  why would it 'restart the troubles' the GFA doesn't mention 'trade'.
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  342. The only solution is for Ireland to leave the EU, join the UK and the UK vote for people who will work for the people of the UK, but, there's too much 'Irish pride' for that to happen. So, it looks like the future for Ireland is 5 million Irish people dependent on 445 million people that speak different languages.
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  343. Who knew Worzel Gummidge and Aunt Sally had a daughter?
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  344. Isn't Martin Reynolds the privately educated Cambridge University lawyer who spent years at the top of the civil service working to make the UK part of a federal Europe? Isn't he the highly experienced and competent legal expert who wrote the lockdown party invitation containing the phrase: "bring your own booze"? I wonder which way he thought that would pan-out?
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  345. Support no deal Brexit sign petition @t
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  346.  @emm_arr  What has this to do with dentistry - apart from the likelihood more people would get dental treatment had Corbyn become prime minister? All this was invented by the Blairites to regain control of the party - that's obvious to anyone with an active braincell. 70% of the electorate want public transport, electricity, water etc. in public ownership and all major political parties are opposed - what does that tell you about who they serve?
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  347.  @derekmulready1523  It was just a joke - the idea being the EU citizens are starving and are forced to steal food from the UK nationals. I think the EU is backtracking on pinching people's sandwiches a it looks petty. Last time I was going through Canadian immigration (Vancouver train station BC) the officer told me her grandparents were born in England - when I asked her what part - she answered: 'Dublin'. Never managed to get a sandwich from UK to Austrailia - it takes two days to get there.
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  348. He had to do a 'lot of soul searching' about how he can best keep his salary, expenses and pension...
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  349.  @elwynjones763  Interesting, how pro-EU people in the UK were against having the 1975 'in/out' referendum, were against having the 2016 'in/out' referendum - but now want a referendum of some sort...
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  350.  @madandy3176  UK joined in 1973 and in the 20 years prior to joining the Tories were in government for 14 years - so if there was a problem with the UK economy the Tories had some responsibility. BTW it was the Tories that joined the UK to the EEC (without referendum) when the Labour movement was opposed. It was a Labour government that gave the people a say in 1975. Labour remained opposed and its 1983 general election manifesto promised immediate Brexit. It was the Thatcher/Major years taking the UK deeper into political union that forced Labour to become a pro-EU party. Basically, the UK has wasted half a century of alternative possibilities and hundreds of billions of £s... All because of the Tory Party.
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  351. Reality check - when you say 'we' do you mean your 8 MEPs?
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  352. @Frankly Frank Who did lie? And what was the lie?
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  353. @Frankly Frank So, who did lie? And what was the lie?
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  354. @Frankly Frank "Your in the dark" - Classic! If you understand so much about the political and economic future and think other people are too thick to understand such things, how is it you cannot understand the difference between simple words like, 'your' and 'you are'?
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  355. Of course, had a series of MPs followed JRM's example then anti Brexit forces like the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Sky would have accused them of not thinking for themselves.
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  356. Labour got in because people had had enough of the Conservatives - now they've seen Labour in government they realise they'd actually had enough of career politicians.
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  357. I think these news providers should pause to think about the three children who might not understand this scathing attack on what they had likely thought would be a well received gesture.
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  358. It's time pro-EU MPs stood down as their vision for the UK has been rejected.
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  359. BdaMonkey  They have the mandate of the people for independence.
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  360. BdaMonkey  A lot happened from 1975 - 2016 too.
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  361. BdaMonkey  Many people voted Remain in two minds opting for what they seen as being the less disruptive option. These people now accept the democratic decision and think the UK should get on with exploiting the advantages of being an independent country. This 'bunny-boiler' stance from the EU will only strengthen their resolve. 'Project Fear' has become laughable and the idea there is a majority wanting to vote to stay in the EU is pure La La Land.
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  362. Tory candidates will be knocking on Labour voters' doors and asking if they voted to leave the EU... If the answer is yes, they will say: 'Your Labour candidate thinks your vote should be ignored - but expects you to vote for them'.
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  363. The fact these women are old and not sexy makes sexual jokes more inappropriate.
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  364. @IIWII I seem to remember a study which showed if Paris was tiny it would fit inside a wine bottle...
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  365. In what other walk of life would you ask people who got you into a mess to get you out of the mess they created? Our parliament (650 out of 65 000 000) has been getting us deeper and deeper into a federal European quagmire for 50 years - now we're trusting the same people to get us out.
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  366. There's a video of Parker speaking in his normal 'highbrow' voice and it's clear he put on a working class cockney accent to sound like a thug racist. It would make sense that, Parker's motive is Reform taking Tory votes and C4's motive is Reform taking Labour votes.
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  367. Really? How perverse. All the evidence shows the 'federal Europe project' was a deception and imposition from the start. The 'small village sized' group of people responsible have always lied to the UK people about their vision for the UK. During the 2016 referendum Remain lied repeatedly and Leave stated arguable fact. After UK people rejected participation in a federal Europe; pro-EU activists did the only thing available to oppose democracy - they falsely claimed the electorate had been lied to.
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  368.  @CradaOC  So, it should be easy for you to cite some Leave words verbatim and to demonstrate those words to be a knowingly false statement intended to deceive. Go on then..
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  369.  @evelbsstudio  What's that supposed to mean?
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  370.  @evelbsstudio  If Remain had won, Brexit didn't happen and Cameron was PM - you would be saying all those things about the Tory government.
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  371. The way 'the Rwanda plan' is working is it makes it impossible for a migrant to be in the 'asylum seeking process' without also 'identifying themselves' for 'detention and deportation to Africa'. So, migrants are now being forced to discontinue their claims, go underground in the UK or move to another country. As soon as the first planes take off with reluctant passengers the UK's 'overt' migrant problem will fade away.
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  372. How can they take all these gifts and take heating from old people?
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  373. The idea was to capture the 'mood for change' that resulted in the Brexit vote... 'People want change - not Brexit' Basically saying they know what's best for people - which is what the people are voting against.
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  374.  @VeeShenge  Brexit has made it less likely people in Scotland would vote to leave the UK. If Scots wouldn't vote for independence when they would have remained in political union with the UK - they're not going to vote for independence to be out of political union with the UK.
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  375.  @woodpecker8327  There's plenty of people in the rest of the UK that wanted the UK to remain in the EU - about ten times those in Scotland - it's the thing about 'democracy' - not everyone gets what they voted for...
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  376.  @spinaway  You shouldn't be appearing at the comedy festivals - I hear they need comedians...
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  377. The 2016 question was politically complex proposing two distinct futures for the UK. The nature of this question would have caused a large proportion of the electorate to be in 'two minds' as to which way they should cast their vote. Voters were advised by the UK government, world leaders, banking organisations, business organisations, economists and most MPs that leaving the EU was a 'risk' not worth taking. This means most of those in two minds would have opted for the safer option. The upshot being 2016 Remain voters are far more likely to change their mind to Leave... As for 'new kids on the block' - only 30% of young voters actually vote and they are 60% Remain and 40% Leave which means for every million new over 18s Remain gets a benefit of just 60 000 votes.
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  378. +bacfromcuba The fact people did not care about the EU (36% turnout in 2014 UK/EU elections half of which voted Leave in 2016) is evidence of the covert nature of the EU plan. Before the referendum the British public was largely in favour of staying in the EU - then they began to learn what it meant. I don't remember any lies by the Leave campaign. I think it was Remain that lied and attempted to bully the nation with fear... Unfortunately, this is is ongoing. I would go as far to say the entire Remain campaign was/is based on lies and sophistry and was/is grossly unfair.
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  379. This is what Lord Paddy Ashdown said on a second referendum whilst the votes were being counted: “Here’s the single point: Those that asked for this and I was the first leader ever to ask for a referendum way back in 89/90, have said so because they believe it to be an act of democracy. I will forgive no one who does not accept the sovereign voice of the British people once it has spoken. Whether it’s by 1% or 20%, once they’ve taken it, it is our duty, as those who serve the public to make the best use and to make sure that our country does the best it can with the decision the people have given us. I’ve heard Mr Farage say tonight: ‘We’re coming back even if we lose’. Excuse me! He’s the person that complained about lack of democracy in Europe! If he will not accept the sovereign voice of the British people, whatever they say, then I think he does not have the national interest at heart.” (Lord Paddy Ashdown 24 June 2016)
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  380.  @Wichnam  The people of Gibraltar and Ireland want to be British. What do you suggest?
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  381.  @Wichnam  Your suggestions do not allow for the fact the peoples of Gibraltar and Northern Ireland want to be British. I'm sure those that want Northern Ireland to unite with Southern Ireland will be watching opinion in Northern Ireland closely. In the meantime, the border between Northern and Southern Ireland could be operated in a way that does not compromise the GFA, despite political based assertions to the contrary.
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  382. Maybe ask his family who are innocent and lose someone too..
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  383. Red rag for Starmer to oppose the UK's best interests and evaporate Labour's poll lead.
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  384. This is the Government's response to petition regarding second referendum 6 Nov 2018: The Government is clear that we will respect the result of the 2016 referendum, and that we will not hold a second referendum. A clear majority of the electorate voted to leave the European Union in the 2016 referendum. Almost three quarters of the electorate took part in the referendum, resulting in 17.4 million votes to leave the European Union. This is the highest number of votes cast for anything in UK electoral history. This was the biggest democratic mandate for a course of action ever directed at any UK Government. Parliament then overwhelmingly confirmed the result of the referendum by voting with clear and convincing majorities in both of its Houses for the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Bill. In last year’s General Election, over 80% of people then also voted for parties committing to respect the result of the referendum - it was the stated policy of both major parties that the decision of the people would be respected. The Government is clear that it is now its duty to implement the will expressed by the electorate in the referendum - respecting both the will of the British people, and the democratic process which delivered the referendum result. The British people must be able to trust in its Government both to effect their will, and to deliver the best outcome for them. As the Prime Minister has said: “This is about more than the decision to leave the EU; it is about whether the public can trust their politicians to put in place the decision they took.” In upholding that directive to withdraw from the European Union, the Government is delivering on that promise. We recognise that to do otherwise would be to undermine the decision of the British people, and to disrespect the powerful democratic values of this country and this government. The Government therefore continues to be committed to delivering on the instruction given to us by the British people: working to overcome the challenges and seize the opportunities this brings to deliver an outcome which betters the lives of British people - whether they voted to Leave or to Remain. The people of the United Kingdom gave a clear instruction and the Government is committed to seeing that through. We will leave the European Union on 29 March 2019. Department for Exiting the European Union
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  385. This is a fact, Labour don't seem to understand how strongly many of their voters feel about Brexit. I can personally think of eight lifelong Labour voters that would vote for a clean break Brexit Tory Party tomorrow. If the Brexiteers topple May and ditch the traitor MPs by running on a definite 'We will deliver the Brexit the people have voted for' ticket... Tory Leave voters will vote Tory, Labour Leave voters will vote Tory. UKIP voters would vote Tory and Tory Remain voters will vote Tory too.... The remoaner vote will split between Labour and Lib Dem. Labour are so out of touch with their traditional northern vote - it's unbelievable. They've already lost Scotland - at this rate they will end up the 'Let's ban Xmas in London' Party.
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  386. UKIP would have to get elected first and that doesn’t look likely any time soon. One possible way it could happen is if the Tory Brexiteers in significant numbers defected to UKIP forcing a general election. I think it's more likely that there would be a leadership challenge to May and the Remainers would have to stand down or destroy the Party. The Brexiteers hand is: The referendum result, a united Tory Party in government with hard Brexit or no Tory Party and a left-wing Labour government for the foreseeable...
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  387. Misusing BBC TV fame to get something you want is a language that is not dissimilar to that used by Jimmy Savile in the 70s, Am I out of order?
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  388. Remoaner hypocrisy is off-the-scale here. When remoaner Starmer was in charge of the of Crown Prosecutions Service, it was apparently not his responsibility when that office failed to prosecute the life-long child molester, Jimmy Savile. On the other hand, when the Brexit prime minister is busy running the country, he is somehow responsible for the shenanigans of remoaners ("bring your own booze") operating the offices of government...
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  389.  @emm_arr  Why you keep telling me this? I couldn't stick Savile or Thatcher - both in favour of UK being in a federal Europe.
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  390. +Phil h What was wrong with the NHS slogan?
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  391. Starmer is right about things getting worse before they get better - people will see his disaster and vote Reform.
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  392. This has always been a top-down imposition - never a grass-roots movement - these people who have served a different power to the one they were meant to - have gotten their comeuppance.
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  393. When Reform hits 25% voters will start switching from Tory and Labour to their Reform candidate.
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  394. The people have decided and no one has the right to say why someone else voted... Remoaners are anti democratic and anti British - it's high time they just shut up! The future is British people controlling their own country and their own lives.
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  395.  @redlightmax  That's what i said - well done! Did you read it all by yourself?
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  396.  @highmyope-ps2by  Well, that would depend on the law of perjury which normally relates to testimony under oath in a court of law and also the seriousness of 'the lie'. Not sure she was under oath as the chair warned her about self incrimination.
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  397. Parliament is overloaded with quislings.
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  398. I hear Remain voters telling me they were wrong every day - Remain was the safe option, so 99% of people in 'two minds' opted for Remain and then regretted it when they learned the result.
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  399.  @guleiro  The only problem is the UK parliament has too many EU people in it - this will change soon. We in UK have saying: 'He who laughs last - laughs longest'.
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  400.  @guleiro  Yes, the saying's origin is a 1608 English play, but I suppose it has spread all over Europe and the world. The English have also adopted sayings from other countries and as a consequence these have become used throughout the world. The UK Conservative Party is currently in conflict over the leadership and it looks as though the Leavers will take control as the members are strongly in favour of leaving the EU. If as predicted Boris Johnson takes over as leader there will be a general election and the Leavers would easily win a majority The UK political system can give one party 400 MPs and all other parties 250 MPs on just 40% of the national vote... This idea the UK cannot survive without being in the EU is just nonsense.
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  401.  @guleiro  Let's not use your baseless assumption that, these things will prevent a successful Brexit.
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  402.  @guleiro  So, please explain why you believe the land border on the island of Ireland is a reason to prevent the UK being an independent country?
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  403.  @guleiro  We don't have poor food standards in the UK - I have travelled all over EU27 and had lots of illness from bacteria on food. The GFA will be respected - you have not stated why you think it will not - you have just made threats to kill innocent people in pubs. Scotland had a referendum in 2014 - it voted to stay part of the UK - in 2017 56% of Scots voted for parties promising Brexit.
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  404.  @guleiro  Honestly? 90% of Brits do not talk or think about the EU - it's not an issue in our lives.
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  405. What about the £10 million pro-remain government leaflet that was £10 million over the legal campaign fund limit?
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  406.  @dallysinghson5569  I agree the UK has failed in many ways - this is why we are making changes.
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  407.  @davidcooks2379  There was never any 'anti Semitism' it was all invented by the Blairites who took over the party in the 90s to prevent Labour (the people) taking back Thatcher's privatisations.
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  408.  @pudpullertm  All of those things you mention are valid reasons to vote to leave the EU. I cannot deal with each here, however, I will explain why your first assertion (that the message on the Leave bus was a lie) is not true. The message contained a statement of fact: "We send the EU 350 million per week" and a suggestion: "let's fund the NHS instead". The statement of fact appears to be accurate, as the UK does send this amount to the EU (confirmed by the UK Statistics Authority). Whilst, it is true that, the EU returns and uses some of this money for projects in the UK, this fact does not alter the validity of the original fact and this is particularly so, given the context of the 'Brexit' referendum. This first part of the bus message is therefore, not a lie. Now the 'suggestion'. A 'suggestion' or ‘proposal’ cannot be a statement of 'fact' under any circumstances, so this part of the bus message cannot be adjudged to be 'false'. Also a 'suggestion' cannot be a 'promise' so there can be no expectation that the terms of a suggestion should be carried out by the person that made the suggestion or by a person that, concurred with the suggestion. So this part of the bus message is not a lie. In pure fiscal terms, the bus message was entirely accurate, as the saving would be always used to 'fund the NHS' for as long as NHS was state funded and expenditure exceeded 350 million per week. This is because all government spending comes from the same coffer; moreover, the government currently borrows more than this amount to meet its spending commitments. The referendum was not a general election, the Leave supporting MPs were not going to form a government and the public fully understood this. Indeed, the only people complaining the NHS has not received this money are people that, voted to keep sending it to the EU. An example of a message that is an actual lie, is the claim made repeatedly by the Remain supporting media and Remain activists that, 'the EU funds the UK' in various ways. Of course, this is fiscally impossible, as the facts prove the UK has always funded the EU.
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  409.  @pudpullertm  The UK has negotiated a rebate because the UK was paying an unfair amount, however, those pro-EU forces in the UK would rather the UK did not have any rebate. The UK still owes and pays the amount before rebate... As you have said the actual price of the TV is £1000. Thank you for making my point.
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  410.  @pudpullertm  It was in the government leaflet sent to every house in the UK that, voting leave would mean losing access to the single market.
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  411.  @pudpullertm  I provided you the evidence from the UK Statistics Authority (that was attempting to criticise the bus message). The letter did not contest the figure, so the figure is obviously correct. The letter uses the word "extra" in order to challenge the bus message. This is deliberately misleading, as the bus message did not say 'extra' it said "instead" which is different in meaning to "extra". So the bus message really said: 'If we don't give the EU £350m each week, we will have this extra money to fund the NHS 'instead' of giving it to the EU. This is not the same as saying: 'We will give the NHS extra money' it is clearly saying: 'We will have extra money to fund the NHS'. As I stated earlier the UK currently borrows more than £350m per week, so this extra money will be very useful in ensuring adequate funding the NHS is sustainable. I have explained this in as simple a way possible, but I can see it's hard for some people to understand. Of course, it is not helpful when the Remain side have lied so much.
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  412.  @sufirodger  Not only is it a small sample, there are far more unknowns in attempting to predict a national referendum, than a general election. The questions are carefully constructed to get the results the survey funder wants (recently a remain millionaire donated one million pounds to peoples vote to be 'used for opinion polls') and the question: 'how would you vote tomorrow?' omits the relevance of an election campaign that would be hugely influential on voter intentions. In short, this survey is complete nonsense intended only to be used as sensational propaganda.
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  413.  @pudpullertm  You have further revealed your ignorance. The 'gross figure' is the total amount we pay to the EU. The 'net figure' is the part of the gross figure that is not returned to the UK. I think you have demonstrated that this is beyond the scope of your understanding. Obviously, this is how remain propagandists are able to fool people like yourself. An independent UK would retain the gross figure and this money would be available to the UK to 'fund the NHS' 'instead of sending it to the EU'... Just like if you cancelled a gym membership you would have the money you used to spend on the membership fee, to spend on your groceries instead. It's basic accounting.
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  414.  @pudpullertm  You do know your 'independent' information source is funded by George Soros?
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  415.  @pudpullertm  What has this to do with the 'Tories'? Perhaps you're the only one that cannot see the pro remain media is tactically making Brexit look right wing hoping twits like you will oppose Brexit (just because they don't like Boris and IDS). The two great political intellects of my lifetime were Enoch Powell and Tony Benn. They were both considered extremists at opposite ends of the political spectrum. They both believed that, UK sovereignty belonged to the people of the UK and could/should not be given away to foreigners by politicians... You may not vote for people like Boris and IDS, but the people of other EU countries might vote in governments that are even further to the right.
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  416.  @pudpullertm  Did you know the 1983 Labour Party manifesto promised to Brexit? I thought not... Oh dear!
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  417.  @pudpullertm  Oh dear, I don't think you know enough to discuss politics... Why don't you try a teletubbies video and see if you can keep up with the comments there?
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  418.  @pudpullertm  You should know as you've just Googled it. Oh, and it's spelled 'thicko' not 'thico' - you thicko! ;o)
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  419.  @pudpullertm  That should be 'you're' not your - I must be such a 'thico' [sic].
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  420.  @pudpullertm  You say I am "so empire" but what did I say to make you think this? No Leave voter believes the British Empire will be reinstated. The EU is the only 'empire' relevant to this debate and you are the one that wants to be part of it. I am pleased you are able to laugh so much, as you must be getting over your Brexit depression. I didn't know you worked in politics and I have to say I'm surprised because you don't seem to know anything about politics.
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  421. @Daniel Abrahams Which is clearly what the people voted for. But, it would all depend on what question (or questions) was on the ballot paper.
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  422.  @pudpullertm  You must be overdue your medication.
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  423. The Irish potato head doesn't know the population of the EU27.
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  424. so much for the 'people's vote' then...
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  425. Potentially, there's an even more damning aspect to this story: Has a council house been bought by person/couple who had no need for a council house with the sole purpose to buy at knock-down price and sell for profit? This might not be illegal, but it's not helping a family in genuine need of a council home.
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  426.  @Tdot6  What 'Right now?' Shame the national rejoin march wasn't tomorrow - someone under 70 might have attended.
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  427. Looks like you believe what the last person who talked to you believes... It's biased 'news' dummy!
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  428. It's only a 'problem' because establishment remainers will not accept democracy. The majority of ordinary people that voted Remain accept the result. This 'we-know-better' elite do not represent the people, and they resort to lies to install fear in the nation to get their way.
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  429. And wouldn't be good if John Major and Tony Blair would do the same... Yesterday's men with a failed and rejected vision for the country.
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  430.  @fitzstv8506  https://www.defendevropa.com/2018/news/eu-turkey-border/
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  431. I would not be surprised if Republicans are behind it all. 'Law and order' has always been a big election issue - and Republicans can now tell people 'vote Democrats and get defunded police and anarchy'... Maybe some people are too easily riled-up.
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  432.  @malcolmlarri8236  A UK prime minister once said that 'a week was a long time in politics' .. If there is a general election soon the Tories could not go to the country with May's deal so they would be forced to go with WTO. This would mean the Brexit Party and UKIP would not stand and the Labour Party, Lib Dems etc. would have to either form an anti-Brexit alliance which is unlikely or split the Remain vote... The obvious problem for Remainers is that, the Tory Remain vote would be unlikely to vote for a Corbyn government, but the Labour Leave vote would be likely to vote Tory for Brexit.
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  433. People saying this is 'really about Brexit', should understand that, had we voted to stay in the EU and any EU supporting UK prime minister had been given a birthday cake during lockdown, then exactly the same thing would have happened. This is all about integrity and MPs telling the truth, it has absolutely nothing to do with Boris leading the UK out of the EU when 85% of MPs voted Remain...
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  434.  brett linthicum  Why would 'religious thinking' by humans mean a god condones all of it. Is not the death penalty being imposed in US by people claiming to be religious? If you take religion out, you are left with democracy deciding what is right and wrong and that's a funny way to kill people; because according to democracy, it's already wrong in some places and is arguably wrong and could become wrong where it's happening.
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  435. That's correct and their descendants all had a vote in the referendum to leave the EU.
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  436. What were the chances of C4 news reporter being in the same car with the only person in the UK stupid enough to say those things in front of a news reporter?
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  437. @dellwright1407 And who needed to 'goad' the Labour candidate in Clacton who said his favourite drink was white people's tears - and where was C4?
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  438. @dellwright1407 Yes, the 'undercover reporter' just happened to be in the car with the 'jobbing actor' who just happened to be saying racist stuff.
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  439. I think I pay enough in tax without having to give the government an extra £2k per year.
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  440. I don't think it's a U-turn as Farage's ideal outcome would entail BP not contesting those seats anyway. CP still needs to make gains and BP is in the way of this. What Farage wants is CP to stand down in some Remain held seats and in return BP will stand down in other Remain held seats. CP want this just as much - so all is still to play for...
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  441.  @TM54561  The word 'fascist' is a political term that describes an activist wanting a system of government which does not respect democracy. Soubry voted for the UK electorate to have a referendum on EU membership - she campaigned and voted, but now does not accept the result. I do not think it's unreasonable to call a lawmaker that does not accept democracy a 'facist' or 'nazi' (that has similar anti-democratic connotation). What I do feel is inappropriate is a lawmaker to say a political opponent 'looks as though someone has their finger stuck up his bottom'. And this is what Soubry said about Nigel Farage.
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  442.  @TM54561  Well, It just seems that too much is being made of this. We have always had heated political debate - it's a necessary component of democracy. The pro EU activists are showing themselves to be anti-democratic - it's plain for all to see.
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  443.  @TM54561  "In an intimidating manor" that's Westminster - which is one of the plushest manors in London mate!
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  444.  @mikelamatria3610  Exactly, Soubry and Oluwole are fascists because they don't like democracy.
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  445. So can some Jewish protesters project 'Wipe Palestine Off The Map' on the UK parliament for the world to see? It cannot be disputed those who projected and lauded 'From The River to the Sea Palestine will Be Free' were inciting ethnic cleansing of Israeli Jews, which is racial hatred.
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  446. @dondoodat Doesn't say 'Palestinians' it says _'Palestine' so, it clearly refers to the eradication of the State of Israel.
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  447. @dondoodat I think you are missing the point. Whatever is in the manifesto of a foreign political party is outside the jurisdiction of the UK Police. In my original comment I do not suggest any such a comment should allowed to be displayed on any UK building. The point I was making is why has such a comment been allowed? The fact such a comment has been allowed suggests the London authorities are 'controlled' in some way by one side of the conflict.
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  448. @dondoodat "allowed: let (someone) have or do something - give the necessary time or opportunity for" (Oxford)
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  449. @dondoodat OK - think up your most offensive racial slur and project it on any building and let me know what happens...
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  450. @dondoodat If you look on YouTube you will find proof of London police preventing all protest that Khan disagrees with - so your argument fails.
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  451. How much does it cost a company to produce a legal contract saying a worker will agree to go live in the EU? The answer is probably nothing and there need be no actual intent to relocate the company... So, why do it? The answer is because it's an easy way to create an anti-Brexit news story for the anti-Brexit 'news' media to add to the anti-Brexit propaganda... The propaganda has become so desperate that everyone is having a good laugh at project fear.
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  452. It looks like Canada's prime minister also left early, but that was not disrespectful because he supports the invasion of the UK by young men in boats and opposed Brexit.
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  453.  @emm_arr  The old 'we are the clever ones' - if you lot are as clever as you keep saying - how did you lose the referendum?
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  454.  @emm_arr  Actually, 'Brexit' wasn't on the ballot paper either - nice try though ;o)
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  455.  @emm_arr  Yes 'leave' which means: "Depart from permanently" So, the people voted for the UK to 'leave' the EU which means the UK should 'depart permanently from the EU'. The people did not vote for 'Brexit' which is a made up word with no clear definition.
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  456. If you were standing next to 'no facts' you would be rude too.
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  457. Where where? (It's 'hear hear')
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  458. +BatsAndDadgers It comes down to what a person believes is best for the country and as there are differences of opinion it's impossible to find agreement. That's why we had a referendum - to settle the matter and move on. The problem with your 'compromise' idea is that the question on the ballot paper was 'in or out' based on a compromise position as was set out in the government leaflet.
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  459. He was on 'government assignment' - so 'exempt' - like 'James Bond'... (classified information - this message will automatically delete when read 1000 times)...
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  460.  @SouthernCross75  provide not provid - Qatar MEP bribe scandal - well dodgy..
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  461. No one is stopping you - most would be glad to see you leave the UK. It's just you cannot take Scotland with you because a majority of Scots want to stay in the UK. If there was another referendum in few years, your kind would lose again and all you would have achieved is years of division caused by perpetuated inbred resentment.
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  462.  @davelong9055  How to be a Tory voter: 1, Be greedy. 2, Be envious of poor people's children having food. 3, Believe low wages encourages poor people to work harder. 5, Believe high wages encourages rich people to work harder' 6, Believe the nation's property should be sold cheap to rich foreigners. 7, Believe trade unions are bad and rich people are good. 8, Believe mummy and daddy's money is theirs for free. 9, Refuse to strike but still take the pay rise. 10, Believe poor people should get stuff for free (food banks).
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