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Comments by "Iazzaboyce" (@Iazzaboyce) on "The LBC callers who regret their Brexit vote" video.
Well, you hit the nail on the head - because it's people like you who wanted the UK to stay in the EU that have prevented the UK taking advantage of new opportunities. Unfortunately, the UK people are stuck with the same political establishment with its same rejected minority pro-EU vision. The simple truth is the people who fought for Brexit and won the referendum have not had a fair democratic chance in power to deliver. More than 50% of the UK electorate voted for an independent UK and we still have 85% pro-EU MPs.
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@lbergen001 They were lied to - the Remain side said voting Leave would mean UK house prices falling by 18% in two years - since voting to leave UK house prices have increased by 10% each year. There were lots of Remain lies - like saying the UK would not join the Euro. That's like UKIP saying We will not keep the Pound LOL!
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@gordonstrong5232 So what you are saying is, you would like us to re-join the EU and have 85% Brexiteer MPs going forward...
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Just one thing, I live in the UK and I have not met one person who has told me they voted Leave and would now vote to join the EU. I have met a lot of people who have told me they voted Remain, but now think they should have voted for Brexit. You are believing establishment propaganda designed to create a working image of Brexit failure and regret - it's the sinister stuff George Orwell warned us about.
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So, let's allow murderers to dictate national politics with threats of even more murders - I suppose you think Ukraine should give up sovereignty of Donbas and Crimea to prevent violence too...
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All this 'I voted for Brexit, but now I realise my mistake' is obvious pro-EU propaganda LOL! Because, Remain was the 'safe' option and Leave the 'risk' option - it's obvious that more of those in two-minds opted for the safe option.
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@nickryder9669 It's 'Remainers' or 'Remoaners' not 'remainders' lol! But. 'remainders' does mean 'leftovers' and it was the extra votes from the left which won the 2016 referendum and the 2019 general election lol!
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@stuartcastle2814 So, if we ever do rejoin the EU - you will be OK with 85% of MPs having UKIP backgrounds...
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@stuartcastle2814 OK, but some of us think politicians have political ideologies.
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@stuartcastle2814 Well, I'm not sure what you mean - what do you mean by 'supporting Brexit'? There are different possible versions of 'Brexit'.
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@stuartcastle2814 How could the Leave campaign 'promise' anything? The referendum was not a general election - if Leave won the Leave campaign was not going to take control of the government.
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@stuartcastle2814 To be honest - I think you're talking nonsense. I don't want to be insulting, but this stuff requires some political understanding which you clearly do not have.
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@lbergen001 Who are you talking to and what are you trying to say?
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@lbergen001 People do not have to take orders from the EU. In the UK we had a choice and most chose to be free of EU orders.
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@lbergen001 There's a lot of anti-Brexit interference and propaganda. Most people haven't noticed any difference. There are cost of living issues - but EU countries have the exact same problems. I don't think the UK people would ever vote to rejoin.
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What was the Remain I voted against - joining the euro in five years after promising not to?
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@lbergen001 I agree - it wasn't very nice of the EU to remove their existing rights to live and work in the EU (especially since only 1 million UK were in the EU27 mostly spending their UK pensions/savings and the UK has allowed 6.5 million EU27 to stay in the UK) When Southern Ireland left the UK in 1922 the UK welcomed its citizens to live and work in the UK (a law which still applies today). I think EU thinking toward ordinary people is very different to the UK...
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@MS-19 We'll never know - thank goodness...
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@MS-19 Don't you feel silly blathering on about an alternative future reality which is in fact is nothing more than your imagination?
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@ianhomerpura8937 That is certainly no true for me. If you do some research it was Labour voters that got Brexit done and there has been no significant vote for 'Conservative after Brexit'
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@stevesimpson4881 It's not 'a disaster' lol! There is a relentless ongoing anti-Brexit propaganda campaign against the UK people, which began when the establishment stopped 'seeing stars' after June 24, 2016. 'Brexit' is a 'media' word falsely attached to problems in UK society, but the reality is most people don't think about the EU as impacting on their lives. As time goes on, people whinging about Brexit will be seen as being mentally disordered - bit like those people who jot down train numbers in case someone needs to know...
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@horsesarebetterthanpeople I think everyone understood the Leave Campaign was not 'the government' and the Leave bus did not say 'more' it said 'instead'... There's a difference.
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@NeilCWCampbell That's not possible, because the UK being in the EEC/EU was clearly the fault of Yes voters in the 1975 referendum. Leave voters simply corrected that mistake...
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@NeilCWCampbell The UK people being in control of the UK, so not having a foreign government making decisions affecting the UK. The UK people had 10% representation in EU parliament, so were a significant minority. The UK people have 100% representation in UK parliament/assemblies, so cannot be democratically overruled by people from other countries.
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@NeilCWCampbell That's not the point - I haven't mentioned foreign courts - you did. I'm not talking about any laws or borders or rules - you are. I simply said, I don't want a parliament in a foreign land with 90% foreigners voting on matters which I consider none of its/their business. Perhaps, you are correct and nothing detrimental has happened - but a child following a strange man into the woods to find a puppy is not harmful to the child. I believe it's always best to never hand power to others. Did you attend any of the recent re-join marches? I heard it was not possible to count the turnout in Leeds, because Steve Bray's megaphone kept getting in the way...
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@tracychristenson177 Different versions of 'Brexit' - so 'Brexit means Brexit' means a version of Brexit means a version of Brexit...
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@MsCharlieBrown78 We are moving on and going forward out of the EU. You don't get to decide how other people voted or should vote. You get one vote like everyone else and you can use that how you think best.
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@filipbitala2624 Why do you say this? Or do people not need reasons for saying things in the world where you reside?
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@horsesarebetterthanpeople of course the money goes to the NHS instead of the EU! If the UK government is not giving it to the EU - then it's going on the NHS - this is a simple economic fact, because the UK is borrowing to pay the bills...
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@brigold3352 The main thing is the UK people will never vote to rejoin.
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@bryangeake5826 You're not making any sense. You seem to be arguing the minority vote should have got its way. Can you elaborate on why the majority of voters should not be allowed their wish to live in an independent UK, because a minority of voters want the UK to be governed by the EU? Also, why is it 'meaningless' to point out a majority of MPs would give up UK independence to join the EU, when this is not the majority wish of the people?
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@bryangeake5826 You appear to be arguing the 2016 referendum ended the UK's membership of the EU. The UK ended its membership of the EU after the UK electorate had voted into power a government with a clear general election manifesto promise to leave the EU. In the 2019 general election, parties with manifesto pledges not to leave the EU gained less than 20% of the national vote.
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@bryangeake5826 I was talking about parties with 'pledges not to leave.' If people were so against Brexit they were free to vote not to leave - only 20% did. It is you who is wrong, because a second referendum is not a pledge not to leave.
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@bryangeake5826 I was talking about the 2019 general election when 20% of the UK electorate voted for parties with 'do not leave the EU' manifesto commitment.
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@bryangeake5826 And I explained a pledge for a second referendum was not a pledge not to leave the EU.
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@bryangeake5826 I think if Brexit was a disaster, more than 500 people would have attended the 2024 National Rejoin March in London...
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@bryangeake5826 Most people think the UK being an independent country is better than being governed by a foreign parliament.
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@bryangeake5826 It would require a referendum and there are very convincing arguments not to give up independence. If a 'stay-in' referendum did not succeed it seems unlikely a 'join' referendum would succeed. Not sure what the 'join message' could be...
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@bryangeake5826 The PR representation of the EU parliament only gave the UK people10% of the parliamentary say. That said, less than 20% of UK voters were positively participating in the EU parliament.
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@bryangeake5826 The 2016 result stands until it is reversed by referendum. Remember David Dimbleby announcing the 1975 referendum had been reversed?
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@bryangeake5826 There was no 1970 manifesto pledge to join the EEC. The 1970 Conservative manifesto stated if elected they would "negotiate; no more, and no less" "Independent: free from outside control; not subject to another's authority" (Oxford)
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@bryangeake5826 Any UK government attempting to join the EU without a referendum would be open to the criticism it was not holding a referendum because the people were against joining the EU.
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@bryangeake5826 Personally, I don't care what the Electoral Commission says, because it's a group politically biased people with one vote like everyone else. All that matters is the UK voted to leave the EU and this is a position that can only be overruled by the UK electorate. Why was the Electoral Commision not concerned with the UK government (a group of people with one vote each) using £9 million of taxpayers money to send a pro-EU propaganda leaflet to people's homes?
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@bryangeake5826 25% of the population is more than the 14% of the population that has installed the current Labour government and you have argued such an elected government has a mandate to overrule the 2016 referendum.
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@bryangeake5826 A PR government can be formed on 51% of the national vote. The 2016 referendum was PR, as each vote counted equally and 52% of votes were for UK independence from the EU.
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@bryangeake5826 Like I said a PR government can be formed on 51% of the national vote. Whether this is a coalition of different parties is immaterial. 52% of the UK national vote wanted to leave the EU. The other 48% were not committed to EU membership - they just wanted to travel easily in the EU or were propaganda panicked about the UK economy and UK unemployment. No one really wanted to part of the EU federal Europe project or somebody would have objected to the UK government pledge to never join the UK to the eurozone.
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