Comments by "Iazzaboyce" (@Iazzaboyce) on "A response to comments about the general election petition" video.

There is a legal precedent which provides an MP must resign or stand for election in a by election if 10% of the registered constituency voters sign an apposite petition. I see no reason why this concept should not apply to the national electorate, if 4.9m were to ask for a general election.
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@markbriten6999 Because, there wasn't a petition signed by 2.5 million people requesting a general election.
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@markbriten6999 It's not realistic to compare the current petition to the petition against leaving the EU. The petition against leaving the EU was clearly both futile and absurd, because it occurred before the UK had left the EU and only reached a fraction of the number of Leave and Remain votes; thereby having no added meaning and only demonstrating most Remain voters had accepted the democratic position. This current petition is not about opposing a democratic binary decision, but about a fundamental pillar of our democratic system: We believe democratic governance is not just about the ability of voters to remove those in power, it's also about choosing who we give power to. Clearly, this part of the democratic process depends wholly on those seeking power to be truthful with the voters about what they are seeking to do with that power. There is a concept in democratic governance that democracy applies equally to all – if we don't get what we voted for we respect democratic authority and dissent peacefully. Our's was but one vote among many. Starmer dismissing the petition by claiming those signing the petition are not his political supporters goes against this vital communal aspect of democracy and is divisive. Alarmingly, it reveals an obvious disdain for ordinary members of society that do not agree with him. Once we have voted, how we voted is not material. What is material is we are all equal citizens with the right to decide how to cast our vote at the next election. And we have a right to express discontent with elected members who have promised us they would act a certain way and then thrown our cast votes into our faces. Labour now smugly asserts: 'the votes are in the bag – it's too late suckers – we now have all the power based on 14% of the population to attack those in society we despise'. The question here is: Should we (the people) be able to demand/enforce an honest democracy?
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@Poliss95 Yes, I can read. The point I am making is it is the same principle. Many people believe telling lies to the electorate to get votes is 'wrongdoing'. Precedent: "an earlier event or action that is regarded as an example or guide to be considered in subsequent similar circumstances."
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@Poliss95 I think you mean a prison sentence of less than one year, but I can see you are trying.
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@Poliss95 I'll leave you to work it out.
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@Poliss95 I can work out that when a sitting MP is disqualified from being an MP for receiving a 12 month or more prison sentence there is an automatic by election and no recall petition can take place.
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@Poliss95 As I said, you were wrong in stating (in your unedited comment) the rule for wrongdoing for a recall petition is "The wrongdoing is laid out. Any custodial prison sentence of more than one year."
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@Poliss95 Because I asserted you had made a wrong statement and if you then corrected the wrong statement there would be proof you had done so.
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@Poliss95 I haven't said you changed anything. Everyone can see your assertion that, an MP being sentenced to more than one year in prison is grounds for a recall petition. This assertion is wrong because the rules state an MP in such a position would be disqualified from being an MP. This means there would be a by-election in which the disqualified MP would not be allowed to be a candidate. If an MP is sentenced to less than on year in prison, there can be a recall petition if the petition is successful in getting 10% of registered voters, then there will be a by-election in which the sitting MP is allowed to be a candidate, even if in prison at the time of the election. Yes, I sometimes edit my comments to correct mistakes.
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@Poliss95 Actually, you stated the following in relation to recall petition: "The wrongdoing is laid out. Any custodial prison sentence of more than one year. A conviction for providing false or misleading expenses claims. Suspension from the House of at least 10 sitting days or 14 calendar days."
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@Poliss95 There's no need to be unpleasant just because you've made a fool of yourself...
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@markbriten6999 The will of the people elects MPs in constituencies that can then be forced to hold another election. Boris was liable (had he not resigned) for petition to hold an election in his constituency. His offence was being found to have lied to parliament. The reason lying parliament is a serious offence is because MPs represent the people, so lying to parliament is lying to the people. The people signing the petition for a general election believe Labour MPs lied to the people before the general election. The other petition you refer to related to a referendum which is entirely different to a general election.
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