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Comments by "justgivemethetruth" (@justgivemethetruth) on "Create a Nation Based on Love" video.
Nice comment. What happened to the people of this country.
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4:52 - "But what we also know right now, is that more than any other people on Earth, it is the Muslim people who have been hurt by ISIS by the hundreds of thousands". That is important to remember.
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I agree with Bernie and will support his candidacy and vote for him whenever I can ... but there is something wrong with Islam. I don't condemn all Islamic people or all people who have to live under that system or government as well as religion. But look at the two countries that lead the Islamic world, Saudi Arabia and Iran, and both hate gays, they hate non-Muslims and they force everyone in the country be just like them. These two country Saudi Arabia for Sunni and Iran for Shiite set the tone and export tons of money and arms around the world to support terrorism and Jihad. Most of what happens in Israel is funded by Iran, and Saudi Arabia funds Wahabi radicalism all over the world. It is a problem. Democrats and independents want to be fair and open-minded, but they should not allow Donald Trump to set the agenda for this discussion or back Democrats into a corner as to what they want to say and what they don't. Trump's speech yesterday sounded like an elementary schooler, and there are far too many Americans who respond to elementary school rhetoric, but I think that many of us are concerned about immigration and about numbers that are too high and people that can be dangerous. I don't think it should be wrong to have a discussion about this and I don't think people who want to have reasonable manageable immigration are racists or haters.
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A nation based on love must have a strategy to deal effectively and soundly with those who hate and want to turn everything to dirt though !!!!
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There is a difference in Islam and Christianity and Judaism. The basis of Christianity and Judaism is very clear in those religions ... if you boil it down to one thing it is "do unto others as you would have then do to you". This idea may be expressed in Islam, but it is not the key idea, the key idea is Jihad and expansionism, and being over other people. That is a pretty big difference. I am not any part of any religion, but I have been around Christians and Jews my whole life. To regular people you see in your life that are religious, religion is not a problem. The problem are all the so-called religious leaders on TV trying to get cheat people and get their money. Most religious peolpe are becoming more and more secular ... the last holdout for religion seems to be the US. Islam has a huge grip on people because it is their government too in a big part of the world .... that is a problem. By its very nature it rules over people and declares some better citizens than others. I don't know how people can ignore that? It is not a problem with religion in general.
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+torch I think people distill down the basics of religion as it fits into the modern world. It really is a problem in Islam that a majority of those polled in the Islamic world believe that people who insult the prophet should be "punished". That is a difference. There are a lot of people who seem to want to make a neat little world where everything is the same, but there is a difference.
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+codingkriggs > and not a single one of them would say that core to their religion is Jihad and expansionism. DId you ask them? Because when you ask them the core of Islam is Jihad ... I put expansion in there myself because that is by nature expansionism when one of the aims of a sizeable percentage of Muslims is to return all lands that were under Muslim rule to Mulsim rule, and when they rule they treat by law non-Muslims as inferior, not to mention women. I wonder why it is that you need to defend Muslims on any basis other than their human rights that everyone else has? Why do you actually defend Islam itself as a religion when it treats people of other faiths as inferior politically in its own countries?
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+codingkriggs I guess I do not know a single Christian that believes everything in the Bible. When I was a kid in Sunday School in Conservative Texas they boiled Christianity down to the Golden Rule pretty much. I was not much around fundamentalists and I think their numbers are dwindling. Most Christians and Jews are secular these days but they value their religious heritage. So, I don't know why you find it evil on the one hand to point out the heritage of Muslims that is relatively recent and ongoing, but at the same time find it seemingly great to look at something that was written in a Christian book a long time ago that few follow, certainly not billions, and they certainly do not own and run many countries. Do you understand the contradiction in your thinking, at least as far as I can hear you?
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+Dead >> I think ALL religion is the problem. Well, I think this kind of non-thinking is THE problem, and it will not bring people together either, in fact is just makes the stereotype between Socialists and Capitalist worse. All religion is NOT the problem ... and it takes a really clueless person to look at the world today where we see, right now - not 200, 400, 1000 years ago, Islamic extremists mistreating their own people, forcing an oppressive system on them and exporting this to the rest of the world. You can find a few buts in any religion or group for that matter ... but it takes real clueless person to ignore reality and just home in on religion as their person axe-to-grind pet peeve. But I'm assuming you are just trolling for a reaction since you name is dead parrot, so you probably do not deserve one. You are useless either way you put it.
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I am not anti-Islamic, but it is stupid to ignore that today in many countries Islam is a big problem. You said it yourself ... >> YES, Islam is WRONG. YES, Islam is highly immoral. Then you go on to blame all religion ... you don't know what you are talking about. Islam has been at war for hundreds of years. In Saudi Arabia the only thing that ended constant war was that the Saud family made oil deals with the British to prevail against everyone else. You sincerely do not know understand any of this, you just have to simplify everything because you simply brain cannot deal with anything more complicated that condemning all religion. It is this kind of vapid thinking that plagued our world and our world's leaders because they are idiots. Your position is incoherent and illogical.
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>> YOU are the one blaming ONLY islam What other system causes so much senseless terrorism? You want to worry about Christianity because of terrorism way in the past when we have a Pope who at least right now is one of the most powerful peacemakers on the planet? Does that really make sense to you? Because if it does incoherent is the word for you ... you do not put information together with an objective perspective. Yeah, I do think the Catholic child sex scandal is a problem ... but not nearly the magnitude of Islamic terrorism. Do you compare that with Daesh burning people to death in vats of acid, or shooting 50 people in a club in the US, or knifing random civilians on the street in Israel? Again, incoherent. I don't follow what the mainstream media tell me to ... that is way beyond an idiotic assertion. You don't know me and you barely bother to read what I say and try to understand it. The KKK was a big problem in the American South, but it was not killing people anywhere else. There are outbreaks of problems because some people are rotten, and right now the biggest problem is Islamic terrorism. The KKK have been controlled. You simply cannot compare the things you bring up to the size and magnitude of Islamic Fundamentalism. You say these outrageously almost silly things and then you think you can make fun of me. You live in your own foolish world which is why won't be bothering with any more of your posts.
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I think you are close, theocratic regimes, yes, but also any regime that has a group with all the money, all the power and all the answers. China, Russia ... and sadly our own country is starting to be like that in some ways - and that is why I supported Bernie Sanders so early in this race. He is the only one who seems to be able to see and articulate this. I just don't know why some of you have such a boner for hating religions. I just ignore religion for the most part. So do most Europeans these days. For some reason America is the last developed country where we have the threat of these fundamentalist religious nuts ... but I do not see them taking over. The same trend is happening in the US of people who are religious becoming secularized. I would question that secular socialist democracy is the answer for certain parts of the world. I would not hesitate to call it the goal, but I think our experience in Iraq and with other countries seems to indicate it is impossible to bring secular socialist democracy to people who do not want it or do not understand it. The only success the US has ever had with this kind of nation building was with Germany and Japan post-WWII also South Korea after the Korean war. But both of those countries were completely decimated and ready to have a better system. Draw whatever conclusion you want from that example. Another problem is that Americans know f-all about history and what happened in these countries. We are much too willing to use too much force, and in some cases not willing to use enough force. I remember before 2000 where many people were talking about what the Taliban was doing to people in Afghanistan, and blowing up ancient statues. If we had a civilized world something would have been done to stop them as we have done something to stop ISIS. Now the whole area is a mess and people do not know what to do and have nowhere to go.
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>> but the point is that contrary to the OP's beliefs, islam is NOT the only dogmatic belief system causing problems in the world, and they ALLLLLL must be dealt with Being the OP, I'd ask you what threat to US and the world do you think is bigger, as big, anywhere close to the same level of threat as Islam?
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>> fundamentalist Christians" hate lgbtq persons Less and less people "hate" anyone, and more people see that this talk and rhetoric of hate leads nowhere. Most religious people I know support all different types of people?
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+torchandhammer So what ... I don't care what some nuts claim. They don't run the country. You're just crazy, so don't comment on my posts any more. You just do not seem to get that this is some nuts' CLAIM about what Christians should do.
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> So you shouldn't care what some nuts claim about islam either. I don't. And your comments are useless to me, and to yourself as well.
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You are your interpretation are incorrect. I cannot believe you value your time so little that this is a productive effort for you.
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You don't really think we have to worry about fundamentalist Christians taking over the country do you? One of the biggest Christian candidates was Mike Huckabee and he never even got to the main debate stage. Come on ... get a grasp on perspective.
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+torchandhammer Whatever the hell that means.
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