Comments by "justgivemethetruth" (@justgivemethetruth) on "UnHerd"
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I think initially Russia made a grave error by attacking Kiev first thus making this look to the world like an invasion of taking all of Ukraine instead of trying to fix an injustice against a minority Russia population in the Donbas. I don't know - maybe they had to do that, or thought they had to, but I think it allowed the US propaganda - which today is so powerful it is terrifying. There is literally only a small handful of people willing to stand up and broadcast the facts that Americans are not able to hear from the mainstream media, and they are relegated to You-Tube, blogs, and other channels to small numbers of people - and they could easily have been shut up or cut off.
The reality we hear in the media, and from major figures in social media, it is so pro-US, there is absolutely no room for facts, discussion, and it has turned dangerous to actually be democratic and free speech in the land of the free - America. WTF?
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17:20 - ( The wisdom of John Mearsheimer )
Freddie Sayers - On the specifics of Ukraine then, what should we have done, do you think?
John Mearsheimer - Well, first of all, in April 2008, when NATO said Ukraine would become part of NATO and the Russians made it clear that was an existential threat and was unacceptable to the, we should have back off right then. We should have done nothing more.
Then the crisis broke out on February 22nd 2014, we should have recognized the severity of the situation and we should have backed off and worked with the Russians to create some sort of modus vivendi where the Russians felt that they weren't threatened by NATO in Ukraine and that Ukraine could remain a neutral state.
But, instead what we did was we doubled-down. Then over the course of 2021 the situation deteriorated and on December 17th, 2021, the Russians sent a letter to NATO and to President Biden, demanding that they get in writing that Ukraine would not become part of NATO.
What we should have done then is backed off and tried to work out some sort of modus vivendi where the Russians were satisfied with the situation in Ukraine and the threat of war was taken off the table. Instead we told the Russians, nothing is going to change. We are going to bring Ukraine into NATO, and we were working very hard to do that - despite the conventional wisdom in the West which says we were not. We were working to bring Ukraine into NATO.
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I disagree with Peter Hitchens.
We do not have experience yet as a species with this new found level of social interaction, and I think it is very reasonable for the government, or academia, or a citizens panel, or some body to technically analyze what goes on and how social media works.
The problem comes with the fact that when an organization is set up to do such a thing, the people in it, and the people around it will always be trying to leverage it for their own means - and no one is watching and auditing them.
In the same way that a virus like C19 can blaze through the global population, we call ideas or proganda viral, and it can have a huge effect before governments have idea what is going on if they do not monitor social media.
Why do virtually all countries have censors on their TV shows?
Why do bodies have defenses and immune systems?
So, does the question then become - how is this to be done or implemented, and should it be hidden from the public that anything is being done at all. Because if we do not know that something is being done, and we are being manipulated to some extent, we become nothing more than lab animals or cattle.
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