Comments by "justgivemethetruth" (@justgivemethetruth) on "Joy Reid Claims Susan Sarandon Is 'Not A Feminist'" video.
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This is funny.
In general I agree with a lot of what Sarandon believes, and how she describes things is mostly reasonable and liberal/progressive.
BUT ... the problem with Sarandon is that none of what she says was any kind of argument for not voting for Hillary Clinton once she was the Democratic nominee.
If the Democrats seem corrupt and you do not like them, you are still left with the calculation as to who is better for the country, Trump or Clinton.
It is here that Sarandon goes off track. If war is her criterion, then does she feel more safe with Trump? I sure do not. We knew what Trump was, and we know what the Democrats are, and we would not get a health care or tac reform disaster with Clinton and we may well get it from Trump, which will do significant permanent harm to a lot of people and be very hard to turn around.
So, to the extent that Sarandon is someone that influences other people, and there are probably not many ... she has harmed the country to her support for irrationality.
Oh, believe me, when Bernie lost the primary I was mad and almost determined that I was not going to vote for Clinton, but there really was no choice to me.
Now, in order to get the Democrats to sit up and take note and change, perhaps deserting them might have seemed like a reasonable strategy, but it is awfully dangerous and risky.
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- Sarandon is not a working feminist, put it that way. I agree with that
stand, that the social change we need in the US is not going to be the
result of all the little minorities working separately, we need standardization
for everyone ... equality. Health care, education, infrastructure, living
wage ... not just special programs like the Republicans have for all
their billionaire big-shots and corporations to the point where nothing
is clear or understandable.
- I think that Sarandon has the same angst that most of us on the Left
do, that Obama was a creature of Washington and played all of us, and
that goes for Bill Clinton, and kind of the same with Hillary. I think much
less of Obama than I did the night he was elected.
- What we are hearing a lot of is not sexual harassment, and Hollywood
and FOX News is driving a lot of it for political purposes. The absurd
attacks on Al Franken are just weird. The terms for what he allegedly
did are not sexual harassment, sexual assault, rape or any of it, and it
is nauseating to see Americans being manipulated by what anyone
with a brain could parse out very quickly. It sounds like some of these
woman are so desperate to be Republican-ly relevant that they are
thinking of their hips as their butts just to smear Al Franken. I have
not followed Sarandon's comments on this situation, but now the
issue is so clouded by the very media that is supposed to report,
inform and clear it up that it is hopeless ... so I think she is probably
sensibly pragmatic on that.
- I do think she is wrong about Clinton. There would have been a
great difference between Clinton and Trump, and that is where I don't
get Sarandon. I felt like here for quite a while after Bernie got cheated,
it burned by britches so bad I did not know what to do. I really hated
Clinton, and I hated her again when he she did not give the VP spot
to Bernie. That was pure politics, probably based on how she undercut
Obama in several ways as Sec. of State. But, by election time I had
to accept the only sensible way to make any difference was to vote
for Clinton, and support Bernie over the next 4 years.
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