Comments by "justgivemethetruth" (@justgivemethetruth) on "Cenk Uygur And Kyle Kulinski Leave Major Progressive Group" video.

  1. Nah, nah, nah David, I think you are wrong ... the connotation of these comments that having anonymous sex with new partners constantly is the norm, or acceptable, or whatever ... it is vague enough, or maybe just poorly written, and things you say have consequences.  Looking at the whole this is totally misogynistic and objectifying in way that is offensive outside the context of Penthouse magazine of something.  Does this guy have a mother or sisters?  Uh-uh, just in the level of immaturity even 18 years ago is not far enough back.
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  2. Your comment at the end where you say ... this doesn't make any sense.  To you.  Who says this has to make sense to you, and you make a poor argument that it doesn't make sense. There is clearly some sense here even if you or I or anyone else doesn't get it, Cenk got it, the board of JD gets it. What this shows is someone whose seriousness outside of trying to be the center of attention is a big question, and I think the statement from JD makes a lot of sense in the context of a group that is trying to be taken seriously politically, and was the right thing to do.  Your incoherent rant here detracts from your own image as a serious political editorialist.
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  3. QUESTION - were these posts under his name, or a pseudonym?  It seemed on the one that is being tossed around as the major example it was of a sarcastic nature trying to be funny?  Is that possible?
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  4. I see ... you buried the lead until the 23:00 mark where you finally made a point.
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  5. OK - “It seems like there is a sea of tits here, and I am drinking in tiny droplets. I want to dive into the whole god damn ocean,” he wrote. “ - that is pretty objectifying and offensive, and it gets worse.  That part does not sound a bit like he is joking or being sarcastic. But, ah, what are we going to do now with everyone, go back and look at their Google search history and check every website they went to?  Are there no rules of standards for any of this?  I have to admit I would never think to say anything like that at all, let alone under my full real name and doing business as title.  That is insane, unless he is trying to get a job with the porn companies in Florida, What did people think of this and how did they respond to it at the time?  That is, what was the context of these remarks please?
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  6. I like Cenk as an entertainer, celebrity, a media personality ... but I realize what he does he does for his own career and image.  As a leader of a progressive cause, I want someone who cares more about the cause than he does himself ... and because of the way the media is, and the way society motivates people, we don't get that.  Think Ralph Nader ... he would never say shit like this.  Phil Donahue.  Amy Goodman, Bill Moyers, or probably even Bill Maher would have sense not to blather like that ... the list goes on and on.  What a fucking ham, this is someone who wants to do anything but work for a living, so how can he respect the working people of thr world and who can take what he has to say seriously?
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  7. DD - maybe one day you will learn to shut up unless you actually have a point.  I have listened to this all the way through ... almost ... and I do not hear any point except your play by play analysis of your feelings and suspicions.  That is not useful to you or anyone else.  Every video is an essay, and as we learn in school, every essay needs a thesis, a point, and I see no real point to this other than to imply in some way you do not really want to detail, you are sympathetic to Cenk and Kyle, and that is not important to anyone.  You should keep it to yourself.
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  8. Cenk claims he is no longer a Muslim too, but when he had that 3 hour epic long debate with Sam Harris he sounded very defensive of "The Prophet".  So, that is sort of OK because I listen carefully to what people say, and often Cenk expresses Progressive values very well, so on those occasions I agree with him.  It is just not good to decide that one really likes someone and so must agree with them all the time. I did not know Cenk used to be Conservative, but I do remember looking up and finding the funding, at least the initial funding for TYT was from a Conservative.  So, I am looking for why and what is going on with the Conservative ownership of Progressives voices? Having heard some of what Cenk said that was deemed offensive, it was more extremely immature, like adolescent fantasy talk, and very stupid, very, very stupid.  It sounded to me like anyone who would talk like that, or write like that, was mostly concerned about being a celebrity and politics and ethics came a distant second if not worse. There was always something about the discussion with Cenk in the center presiding over a lot of kind of titillating sexual-related stories that I always used to wonder ... what are they doing talking about this stuff on a political show.  I thought it was more to attract an audience that was not patient enough to talk just about political issues, but now I think it was more, there was something wrong about that, and while i got used to hearing that and mostly tuned them out, I did like the interviews he did with Bernie Sanders and Jane Sanders, and some of the other work he did.  I felt that proved his Progressive bona fides and it was not necessary that everything he did in his life was perfect, but I can see why this happened in today's almost nonsense climate. Which is also probably a good time to express that I don't that many, or as many as I think women coming out and accusing predators and harassers - and I wonder why that is.  In fact it almost seems like as many women came out to point the finger at Al Franken as the total that came out about other harassers.  That's an exaggeration, but Franken was slammed in the media like no one I have ever seen with accusations that were trivial compared to Cosby, Weinstein, Trump or Roy Moore.  I felt like this was all staged for the public in some way.
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