Comments by "Markus Müller" (@markusmuller6173) on "Another step in Russia's energy war? | DW News" video.

What if these overpressure incidents at the gas release valves were just a "minor misunderstanding in communications followed by a technical error"? Unless anyone pressures the pipeline operators, they simply remain silent and investigate until the rumors, who are fuelled by people like "top diplomat" Joseph Burrell (0:31), the Swedish PM Magdalena Andersson (1:13) and the "Royal Norwegian Naval Academy expert" Tor Ivar Strommen (3:30), have advance the desired agenda. But thanks to the recent pipeline opening (from Norway to Poland), even I can understand the intention of the puppeteers: The old existing gas supply contract with Russia can probably be suspended or even terminated due to "force majeure or disturbances by unknown third parties"... The turbine story was similar: Putin finally published in a press conference that the German turbine had returned from the Canadian maintenance company, but the necessary accompanying documents had not been sent by the English subsidiary because of the sanctions. By the way, Sweden owns about 78% ownership interest in the Nord Stream pipeline...
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What if these overpressure incidents at the gas release valves were just a "minor misunderstanding in communications followed by a technical error"? Unless anyone pressures the pipeline operators, they simply remain silent and investigate until the rumors, who are fuelled by people like "top diplomat" Joseph Burrell (0:31), the Swedish PM Magdalena Andersson (1:13) and the "Royal Norwegian Naval Academy expert" Tor Ivar Strommen (3:30), have advance the desired agenda. But thanks to the recent pipeline opening (from Norway to Poland), even I can understand the intention of the puppeteers: The old existing gas supply contract with Russia can probably be suspended or even terminated due to "force majeure or disturbances by unknown third parties"... The turbine story was similar: Putin finally published in a press conference that the German turbine had returned from the Canadian maintenance company, but the necessary accompanying documents had not been sent by the English subsidiary because of the sanctions. By the way, Sweden owns about 78% ownership interest in the Nord Stream pipeline...
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What if these overpressure incidents at the gas release valves were just a "minor misunderstanding in communications followed by a technical error"? Unless anyone pressures the pipeline operators, they simply remain silent and investigate until the rumors, who are fuelled by people like "top diplomat" Joseph Burrell (0:31), the Swedish PM Magdalena Andersson (1:13) and the "Royal Norwegian Naval Academy expert" Tor Ivar Strommen (3:30), have advance the desired agenda. But thanks to the recent pipeline opening (from Norway to Poland), even I can understand the intention of the puppeteers: The old existing gas supply contract with Russia can probably be suspended or even terminated due to "force majeure or disturbances by unknown third parties"... The turbine story was similar: Putin finally published in a press conference that the German turbine had returned from the Canadian maintenance company, but the necessary accompanying documents had not been sent by the English subsidiary because of the sanctions. By the way, Sweden owns about 78% ownership interest in the Nord Stream pipeline...
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@VilkatisJanis Here's a probably quite convincing explanation for my already posted option: I assume you have a modicum of technical understanding: when Russia receives the notification that it should start supplying gas again, it starts up the turbines. The pressure remains constant at the feed. After that, however, the gas pressure wave runs through the pipeline. If, for whatever reason (eg IT "malfunction" [or cyber crime] indicates pressure loss below certain critical values in the pipelines), Germany feeds gas in the opposite direction shortly before the gas pressure wave arrives, the two pressure waves will meet somewhere in the pipeline. To prevent the pipelines from bursting in such a case, pressure relief valves were probably installed at regular distances. From a technical point of view, this would at least make sense. This scenaro takes only one IT guy (Silva from 007 James Bond ;) to stage the IT Kabuki Theatre. You have probably already heard of a similar effect in connection with a tsunami: earthquake, wave at sea and then there is a mighty bang when it goes ashore. If two waves meet due to geographic peculiarities, the effect is intensified enormously. See Japan. After all, it is Europe that most likely wants to sanction Russia and get out of the Russian gas supply contracts! What should the Russians gain from torpedoing market access to potential customers in the medium term? It is quite enough for the Russians to switch off the gas turbines until potential trading partners again agree to a mutually acceptable agreement.
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@VilkatisJanis The same applies to the Ukrainian pipeline as to Nord Stream: It is quite enough for the Russians to switch off the gas turbines until potential trading partners again agree to a mutually acceptable behaviour! - But here are two other (conspiracy) theory reminders for you: Do you know the tale of the STUXNET Virus, which is said to have destroyed the SIEMENS centrifuges in Iran for uranium enrichment? Yes, SIEMENS... The next dragon egg that will mess up an IT program, is probably already waiting on the international space station until it is allowed to hatch. Just ask the crew, which consisted entirely of privatiers, who of the astronauts carried out a computer update "in the middle of the night". Or why do you think the Chinese are currently training publicly displayed rescue missions in space? According to your grammar, I'd say your origins are in Asia, perhaps even VietNam, right? ;) :)
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There is certainly no 1000-mile-long pipeline without intermediate pumping stations to compensate for the pressure loss caused by gas friction forces with additional turbines. However, in international gas networks, the turbines of the intermediate pumping stations can certainly work in both directions. So the interesting question is: Who operates the two pumping stations adjacent to the shown event. Incidentally, the sign error in the coordinate system of a computer program led to the destruction of the first Ariane V space rocket. As a final little food for thought, I recommend thinking for example about Mediterranean gas deliveries with Germany as a transit country to Poland. For the NordStream pipeline, there is certainly not only German and Russian access...
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What if these overpressure incidents at the gas release valves were just a "minor misunderstanding in communications followed by a technical error"? Unless anyone pressures the pipeline operators, they simply remain silent and investigate until the rumors, who are fuelled by people like "top diplomat" Joseph Burrell (0:31), the Swedish PM Magdalena Andersson (1:13) and the "Royal Norwegian Naval Academy expert" Tor Ivar Strommen (3:30), have advance the desired agenda. But thanks to the recent pipeline opening (from Norway to Poland), even I can understand the intention of the puppeteers: The old existing gas supply contract with Russia can probably be suspended or even terminated due to "force majeure or disturbances by unknown third parties"... The turbine story was similar: Putin finally published in a press conference that the German turbine had returned from the Canadian maintenance company, but the necessary accompanying documents had not been sent by the English subsidiary because of the sanctions. By the way, Sweden owns about 78% ownership interest in the Nord Stream pipeline...
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@bipl8989 I assume you have a modicum of technical understanding: when Russia receives the notification that it should start supplying gas again, it starts up the turbines. The pressure remains constant at the feed. After that, however, the gas pressure wave runs through the pipeline. If, for whatever reason (eg IT "malfunction" [or cyber crime] indicates pressure loss below certain critical values in the pipelines), Germany feeds gas in the opposite direction shortly before the gas pressure wave arrives, the two pressure waves will meet somewhere in the pipeline. To prevent the pipelines from bursting in such a case, pressure relief valves were probably installed at regular distances. From a technical point of view, this would at least make sense. This scenaro takes only one IT guy (Silva from 007 James Bond ;) to stage the IT Kabuki Theatre. You have probably already heard of a similar effect in connection with a tsunami: earthquake, wave at sea and then there is a mighty bang when it goes ashore. If two waves meet due to geographic peculiarities, the effect is intensified enormously. See Japan. After all, it is Europe that most likely wants to sanction Russia and get out of the Russian gas supply contracts! What should the Russians gain from torpedoing market access to potential customers in the medium term? It is quite enough for the Russians to switch off the gas turbines until potential trading partners again agree to a mutually acceptable agreement.
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@bipl8989 PS: And do you also know the tale of the STUXNET Virus, which is said to have destroyed the SIEMENS centrifuges in Iran for uranium enrichment? The next dragon egg that will mess up an IT program, is probably already waiting on the international space station until it is allowed to hatch. Just ask the crew, which consisted entirely of privatiers, who of the astronauts carried out a computer update "in the middle of the night". Or why do you think the Chinese are currently training publicly displayed rescue missions in space?!?
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@bipl8989 Within an international gas network, I would assume that certain sections of pipeline can be used in both directions. But ok, let's play who has the longer one ;) :D :) I'm an Aerospace Engineer specializing in Turbomachinery and Control Technology. And I know a few reasons for a sudden increase in pressure, especially with highly compressed, fast-flowing gases being pushed through cascaded airends. In a technically complex plant, there are many possible reasons why something could go wrong. So I'm wondering a little why you didn't add an additional technical idea as a possible explanation without playing the sabotage option card. And why would Russia have an interest in stopping gas supplies? I assume, primarily when they are no longer paid fairly and are only patronized. As I've already written, it's quite enough for the Russians to shut down the gas turbines until potential trading partners again agree to a mutually acceptable deal and show friendly behavior again. There is no longer any need to think about financial penalties when the selling trading partner is already upset. Hollow-word Twitter games are reserved for Elon Musk.
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@bipl8989 Again, you didn't mention a single possible technical reason for what has been shown in the video clip. - While one of my best university professors (Dr. Braig) always used to say: If you don't understand connections (reason and result, cause and effect), you're doing stochastics ;) There is certainly no 1000-mile-long pipeline without intermediate pumping stations to compensate for the pressure loss caused by gas friction forces with additional turbines. However, in international gas networks, the turbines of the intermediate pumping stations can certainly work in both directions. So the interesting question is: Who operates the two pumping stations adjacent to the shown event. Incidentally, the sign error in the coordinate system of a computer program led to the destruction of the first Ariane V space rocket. And as a final little food for thought, I recommend thinking for example about Mediterranean gas deliveries with Germany as a transit country to Poland. For the NordStream pipeline, there is certainly not only German and Russian access...
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