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Comments by "" (@lyndoncmp5751) on "Montgomery vs Eisenhower on Operation Market Garden's True Purpose | History Debate" video.
Montys Scheldt campaign = the ONLY western allied campaign of autumn 1944 to achieve its objectives. All the others, including the Hurtgen Forest, Lorraine, Operation Queen, Vosges etc failed.
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@stephenskidmore5283 Well said, and all the failed main American campaigns that same autumn suffered far bigger losses. Lorraine, Hurtgen Forest, Operation Queen. Then the Ardennes.
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Eisenhower instead allowed US 1st Army to mess around in the Hurtgen Forest going nowhere.
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@ramal5708 Still trolling. Are you Big Woody?
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@stephenskidmore5283 The Netherlands had to have been taken at some point. If Market Garden did not happen then the Germans would have built up their defences and moving through that same terrain in, say, November instead of September would then have caused probably more casualties in the long run. Antwerp is a red herring. The US 1st Army had three well supplied armoured divisions and over a dozen well supplied infantry divisions for their Aachen and Hurtgen Forest campaign right after Market Garden. Circa 200,000 men. Three times the size of Market Garden. It was Eisenhowers broad front that prolonged the war, wasting men and resources in the Hurtgen Forest, Lorraine, Alsace, Vosges etc. He should have gone with Montys 40 division northern thrust. All sound military observers agreed with Monty.
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@ramal5708 Troll troll troll. Get a life. Why do you never appear on the Hurtgen Forest and Lorraine videos? Hmmmm.
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@ramal5708 Did you even know that Browning was removed and out of the paras BEFORE Sosabowski was? Browning was got rid of and sent to Burma as an admin just 2 months after Market Garden? Why do you idiots ignore that?
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@ramal5708 No you DIDN'T know that Browning was removed from the paras before Sosabowski was otherwise you wouldn't have written that ignorant post. Commanders were removed often. Stop whining about Sosabowski. Monty removed three BRITISH commanders in one week, old friends from North Africa, when they didn't perform up to standards in Normandy during Operation Bluecoat. Now off you go to the Lorraine videos and bitch about Pattons failure there, or Hodges failure in the Hurtgen Forest, with massive casualties in both campaigns, for less gained than Market Garden. Dont cherry pick what you bitch about. Quit hanging round videos concerning Montgomery.
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@stephenskidmore5283 Indeed, and also in his communications to Montgomery 7th to 9th September, Eisenhower himself seems to think that Antwerp could have been cleared and opened even while going for the Ruhr. Eisenhower never said to Montgomery to stop the advance and clear the Scheldt instead. Anyway ironically, the Scheldt was cleared in late November and then.... three weeks later the Americans got pushed back into a retreat in the Ardennes. Opening Antwerp changed very little and in truth Le Havre was only 1/3 longer distance to Patton than Antwerp. It wasn't a vast difference.
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@ramal5708 Why should I quit backing the most successful Western Allied ground commander of WW2, the man who did more to win the ground war in the west than any other and with a battle winning record longer than any others? Why should I quit?
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John Cornell When you think of it, XXX Corps linking up with the 82nd at Grave in just 42 hours despite the ambush and losses near their start line and then the delay in having to build their own bridge at Son when the 101st failed to have it captured is pretty good going. 70 km through enemy territory in 42 hours is impressive.
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