Comments by "" (@Iain1962) on "Channel 4 News" channel.

But if you had PR you would have loads of Parties. Look at the Netherlands, 26 Parties stood at the last election in November, the winner got 23%. They still haven't formed a Government and it's July, 10 months later. Same in Belgium, there twice in the past decade they had no Government for nearly two years because they couldn't agree a coalition, and they also have 26 Parties running there. If you change the system you would also change the whole fabric of Politics and there would be loads of single issue parties or minority interest Parties who could only ever hope to win one or two seats.
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He wanted the House to sit in Private which is a technical term for establishing that there is a quorum, a pointless waste of time, evidently there was a quorum (40 is regarded as acceptable) Practically all members were present. So he was going to be allowed to waste time after PMQs instead of in the middle of it. Instead he got himself banned and then they all walked out and missed their questions. Brilliant, no wonder the SNP lost 21 seats in the last election.
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+Alex Wilson Why on earth would you "democratise the enterprise"? If somebody invests their money and gives people jobs how does it suddenly become the employees property? If the workers want to own the business they should save up and buy it. It is not a battle between workers and owners, owners take a risk, invest their capital and offer a salary to people with the skills they need in different areas to advance the business in return for their time and effort, if the worker is not satisfied he or she can leave and work somewhere else, if the worker wants to own the business he or she can put their money on the table and buy it. If the workers decide they can run it better they can pool their money and buy it, but just saying because you work somewhere the business is yours is just nuts. It's like the mechanic saying because he repairs your car it belongs to him !
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Well we have rolled over all the EU trade deals, and struck a few new ones in 6 months. So all the deals the EU managed in 60 years and some new ones. Nobody could have imagined the EU didn't want a deal with its second biggest export market, very strange. Interesting the point about Hondas though, Honda also pulled out of the EU, they also said it had nothing to do with Brexit but was because of the slump in demand for diesel cars caused by increased regulations (which came from the EU). As for Ireland we don't want a border, we have the CTA agreement, so if peace is threatened by a border it will be because the EU puts one there, not us and not Ireland.
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And yet the Nazi party considered by most to be the Fascists, was the National SOCIALIST German Workers Party. Watch any of Hitler's early speeches he constantly says he is bringing socialism to Germany.
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@blueplanet9120 How do you mean stubbornness? All I did was state some facts.
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@damianmyles7931 Thanks for the empathy.
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@jejrhriktntndkkwnrjriths1510 We had a referendum about independence in Scotland and we voted to stay in the UK.
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mininmalta 123 Perhaps you should... https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/whatis_e/tif_e/fact2_e.htm
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@garyturner5790 I agree, but who could have foreseen the EU would have been so stubborn. What can you do? If they don't want a fair deal then there will be no deal.
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@phoebus45 There is no "WTO " law, the WTO is a repository and a dispute settler, an intermediary, they are not a political organisation like the EU, they don't make law.
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mininmalta 123 Check the link above. Really mate, you post a lot on these topics, you should really be informed before you spout off more garbage. Stop reading newspapers and go to source.
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mininmalta 123 Haha, no it won't it will teach you, that is if you were able to learn anything new, however sadly I am not sure that is possible. You don't seem able to comprehend and absorb information.
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@danielbones3072 See for yourself. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-trade-agreements-with-non-eu-countries
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@garyturner5790 We have had enough extensions.
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But if you had PR you would have loads of Parties. Look at the Netherlands, 26 Parties stood at the last election in November, the winner got 23%. They still haven't formed a Government and it's July, 10 months later. Same in Belgium, there twice in the past decade they had no Government for nearly two years because they couldn't agree a coalition, and they also have 26 Parties running there. If you change the system you would also change the whole fabric of Politics and there would be loads of single issue parties or minority interest Parties who could only ever hope to win one or two seats.
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Difficult for Channel 4, they know that Hamas are the aggressors but they can't admit it and try and blame Israel.
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@Speeee3dy What difference does it make the leaning of which Party wins? You think they are lunatics I think they are spot on, that's what elections are about. Also I lived in both the Netherlands for 15 years and for a few years in Belgium so I have extensive first hand experience of living there and their system. You should really not jump to uninformed conclusions. You have obviously never lived in Belgium if you think it's not unstable. The country is a total mess with separatist movements, in fighting, massive immigration issues and massive corruption. In the UK we had the election we got the result, and the same day the new Government took over. In the Netherlands it looks like the situation might be at the point of being resolved, but only because Mark Rutte is going to take the head of NATO job so they have to work something out. And even then the Rutte Government was a caretaker government as they still hadn't resolved the previous election. So they have a caretaker government that replaced a caretaker government and they still don't have a Government. The fact that it takes a while is the point, a year before they can even form a Government that's a year of their term gone, and means the country had no meaningful government for a year. In Poland PiS got 44% of the vote. Tusk came a distant second with 27% and yet Tusk is PM and Pis are the opposition. That's bonkers.
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@Luke-pp2lw You have a tiny population, and a unified culture. Pretty much any system would be stable in Denmark. That's not the case in bigger countries. We have an excellent system which has served us well for centuries. The question is do you want a strong government or a wishy washy coalition which is horse traded after the election if it can be agreed at all. We had the election on Thursday, by 11AM the next morning we had completed the formalities and had a new government. No messing about horse trading.
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@carelgoodheir692 Well that's your opinion. In Scotland we have PR, so what happened, the Greens were running the show because they held the balance of power. And they have left behind a trail of chaos debt and failed projects. In New Zealand it allowed Ardern to take power, in Poland Tusk, it gives horrible results that suit nobody. You have no idea if another system would have served you better because the whole landscape would be different, there would be loads more parties, many of them single issue parties, the votes would be spread out amongst all sorts of minority interests, so you don't know what kind of governments you would have had.
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@beanoboy62 Well there are always polarising issues. So that's irrelevant. I don't want PR at all, it's a terrible idea unless you want mushy governments. Tinkering with how you implement a bad system doesn't stop it being a bad system.
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@sctrh2 But that is not feasible, who would be Prime Minister? People always organise themselves into parties. It would be like saying lets have a football tournament with no teams, only individual players. People of the same vision will always group together.
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@mandywithell What is?
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@mandywithell Well not really, our GDP has been growing faster than the EU, imports are up exports are up, the only social problem is remainers still moaning about Brexit. If they would just accept it and embrace it everything would be going a lot better.
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@mandywithell Yes but that's not how our democracy works. It's not a national vote, it's lots of local votes, and each constituency is a separate competition. if you come second or eighth it's the same thing. Adding up the votes is interesting, but meaningless, it's the seats that matter. Everybody has a say by voting in their constituency. If you remove this link to the constituency you change everything, you have to split things into regions and then you don't have an MP you have a whole bunch of MPs in your region and if they all refuse to help you with your gripe, which of them is at fault? So you change the relationship with the public and the MP, and then you have a system of lists, so the top of the list of each of the bigger parties is guaranteed a seat. So how is that democratic if you know you are going to win the seat before anyone casts a vote? Then if you have such a system you will have a multitude of parties, many single issue parties who maybe have one or two seats but aren't interested in anything except their issue occupying a seat that could be better filled. And then you have the biggest party winning with only 25% of the vote, so you have horse trading after the election and everybody jostles for power and you end up with some patchwork coalition government that is going to govern through compromise and committee, and very often the party that came third or fourth holds the balance of power and therefore has the most power, so coming third is the best spot. In other words a wishy washy mess. I much prefer FPTP, you don't need to have a seat in Parliament to make things happen in the UK, we have a great system. Reform will use this information to build a platform, and next time they will do much better, if they do things properly. The Lib dems target their efforts in seats they know they can win and they benefited from disaffected Tories who couldn't bring themselves to vote Labour or Reform.
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@mandywithell Well a lot of absurdities and evident bias creeping in to your thinking. Since when do you have the ability to define democracy? What exactly do you think was undemocratic about Brexit? or Boris? Both of those you gave as examples, but both were voted for. As to the Lib dems targeting seats what's undemocratic about that? How do you think the SNP candidate would get on in Islington? They probably should target their efforts on Scotland somewhere don't you think? Or are they in fact undemocratic because they don't contest every constituency in the country equally. Have you ever asked an MP for help, they are usually very good indeed, if not they usually don't get reelected. It's a very big part of the job. Good MPs take it very seriously, and if they are too busy (if they are in the cabinet or otherwise engaged) they delegate staff to help constituents. We had our election on Thursday we had our new government in place by Friday morning. In the Netherlands they had the election in November 2023, 26 parties ran, the winner got 23.5%, the Government took power on the 2nd of July 2024. That's 10 months, and that only happened because caretaker PM Rutte has a new job at the head of NATO so had to resign, so the PM is a Civil Servant placeholder. Belgium has had no government twice in the past decade for nearly two years because they couldn't agree a coalition. so by the time the government was formed half its term was over. If that's what you want happening in the UK then go for it, but I will be voting to stick with FPTP. That way we can get on with things, on the left or on the right, at least we get on with it.
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