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@Pyladin Where do you see the word "all" in my comment? Many economists would say that overall the stock market has been inflated by cheap money borrowed at low interest rates. As one example of many, if Caterpillar is doing so well and the stock is worth what it's selling for, why have Caterpillar executives borrowed BILLIONS over the past few years to push up the value of the stock and increase their bonuses? Why has Apple done $283 billion in stock buybacks in the past five years? To make earnings look better than they really are? Nah. No company would ever do that.
If you think the interest rates of the last few years have not been artificially low, you must be very young. Zero interest rates are not normal in any economy, and much of the global economy, not just the economy in the US, has been surviving on low interest rates and borrowed money-debt- for decades.
Low interest rates have been a major factor in keeping the US economy, and the stock market afloat. Low rates have also encouraged consumer overspending, which is one of the reasons inflation is so high. Over spending = more debt.
It's a sad joke how this country, and so many others, and so many consumers, have come to believe that crushing debt is part of existence. Bankruptcy lawyers are doing very well, and will continue to. Last thing, and it also has to do with unsustainable debt: another reason the Federal govt. has been reluctant for the Fed to increase interest rates is the huge and ever growing national debt. It wont be too many more years before the interest alone on the debt exceeds GDP. No country can survive under that scenario.
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@kaybel5104 Uh, hey stupid, inflation, like oil prices, is a world-wide issue with countries throughout the world affected by the same factors, such as supply and demand. For example, as I stated, people in Germany are paying over $7 a gallon for gas, just as Americans are paying higher prices because of oil prices affecting a GLOBAL market.
Current inflation numbers for places outside the US include: Russia, 8.4%; the EU, 5%; Germany 5.2%; Turkey, 21.3%; Brazil 10.9%. All of those are either record highs or represent the highest numbers these countries have seen in 30-40 years. In other words, dummy who understands nothing, countries worldwide are experiencing higher than normal inflation.
Employment, and job creation, on the other hand, are more in control of the leaders of individual countries and the people leading them. Unemployment can be up in the UK and down in the US at the same time.
When Trump was president, he bragged about a 50 year low in unemployment. What that actually represented was a measly 1.2% drop from where Obama left it. It decreased from 4.7 to , at its lowest, 3.5% under Trump. 1.2% is nothing.
In Biden's first year, the unemployment rate dropped from 6.4% when Trump left office to 3.9% as of the end of January. That's a 2.5 % drop in one year, compared to Trump's 1.2 % in four years. Over twice as big a drop under Biden in one year as under Trump in four years.
Final note. GDP for the US was 5.7% in 2021 under Biden. Trump never came close to achieving that, and achieved it despite covid continuing and world-wide inflation.
Biden's one-year economic record makes Trump's look like what it was-- miserable.
Choke on the facts, you dope. And make sure to tell your Uncle Sam err Tom err whoever.
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@billfowler9325 Hey, Bill, the Trump family hasn't even tried to hide a lot of their ties to Russia. Remember Donnie Jr. bragging about how they could always rely on Russia for loans? As far as China, Trump's companies got 38 trademarks to do business there while he was president, on top of the ones they already had. And he was gonna bring back US manufacturing jobs from China? What a fucking joke. The taliban? Trump, not Biden, cut the bend over deal with the Taliban in 2020 that lifted the arms embargo, allowed them to work with al qaueda in starting the takeover of the country, and withdrew the US troop level down to half the number of Taliban Trump released from prison. Yeah, all you can say is Let's go Brandon, because you dont know shit about anything.
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Anybody who knows the facts knows what you're posting consists of lies and half-truths, Rusty Brain.
-There was a net LOSS of 2.9 million jobs during Trump's term
-The 50 -year low unemployment he bragged about represented a drop of only 1.2% from where Obama left it, at 4.7 %. That drop is miniscule. Biden has cut the unemployment rate over twice that much in his first year in office.
-The trade deficit, even with his stupid trade war and tariffs, increased 40.5 %and was the highest since 2008
-The number of people without health insurance increased by 3 million
The national debt, which he promised to eliminate, went up from 14.4 trillion to 21.6 trillion, largely because of the same stupid shit Reagan did- increased spending and tax cuts for the wealthy. "Hey here's a great Republican idea'; we have less revenue coming in so let's spend more!"
-Trump promised to revive the US coal industry. Coal production decreased 26.5%, coal mining jobs decreased 16.7%,
-The murder rate was the highest since 1997
-He said he'd bring back manufacturing jobs to the US from overseas. Manufacturing went into a recession in 2019. His own companies didn't help. While he was president, his companies obtained 38 new trademarks to manufacture products in China, on top of the dozens they already had.
Source: Fact Check: Trump's Final Numbers
And you say Biden voters are low information? Everything you post is outdated, flat out wrong, and/or dishonestly presented. I kicked your lying ass in a previous comment, before I saw this idiocy from you. I just kicked it again. Give it up, rusty.
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@dallasbagley Lmfao, nice try, but you began by saying CNN never tells the truth, so it should be easy for you to give a few examples of where they accused Trump of lying when HE was telling the truth.
The best thing for you to do is watch any of the CNN fact check videos where they list Trump's lies. Get back to me with anything you find that proves CNN called out a Trump lie that wasn't a lie.
Over 30000 Trump lies as president have been documented-- you can look up one of the many lie lists online, rather than me trying to list them here. Then get back to me and tell me what you found. Included are him lying that he'd bring back jobs from overseas, although his companies increased their business in China while he was president, that he'd eliminate the national debt, when he actually piled up 1/4 of the entire debt, said Mexico would pay for the Wall, and said that after his summits North Korea was no longer a nuclear threat.
More recently he told over 130 lies in the town hall, and I can list a few of those. You tell me where I'm wrong:
-He said he can do whatever he wants to do with government documents because they belong to him
-He said he cooperated fully with NARA on the documents, even though they first asked him to return them in May 2021 and he lied about having any documents, then ignored subpoenas, then returned a few and said that was all he had and had his attorneys tell the same lie
-He said the documents were automatically declassified when he removed them from the White House
-He said he didn't engage in election interference in Georgia, even though he's recorded asking the GA. secretary of state to change the voting totals
Make sure to check out the 30000 lies list and get back to me. Also watch any of the many CNN fact check videos on Trump and try to find anything CNN said was a lie that wasn't. Good luck. Loser.
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@m_train1 If you click on the name of the person you're replying to, it will be clear who you're talking to. If you don't, obviously there's no way to know who your reply is directed to. Duh.
If you mean the states are responsible for providing and distributing their own PPE and other critical supplies, you're wrong The national stockpile which the federal government is responsible for maintaining and replenishing, was depleted when Trump took office. It was depleted because of all the equipment and supplies needed to successfully combat H1N1, which resulted in less than 13000 US deaths.
Trump was warned numerous times that the stockpile needed replenishing, beginning before he was even inaugurated, and he ignored the warnings. Then as the fatalities mounted because many states were not getting the PPE they needed, Trump responded "The federal government is not a supply clerk." In the case of the national stockpile, the federal government is responsible for making sure needed equipment and supplies are available and are distributed to the states., and Trump failed miserably.
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@leonardlongoria1891 1)He did not bring back manufacturing from overseas. He just said he would, and people like you believe that anything he says he did, he must have done, even when he didn't do it. US manufacturing went into a recession in 2019. When he was elected president, Trump's companies had dozens of trademarks to do business in China. While he was president they got 38 more trademarks to do business there. How does that bring back jobs to the US?; 2) wow, he stepped across the DMZ. Then he announced that "NK is no longer a nuclear threat." NK laughed at him and INCREASED the size of their nuclear arsenal while he was president; 3) exposed the swamp? he had one of the most corrupt administrations in history; countless highly placed officials were forced to resign in disgrace, the first being Michael Flynn days into his term; the few good people he did hire he fired because they knew more than he did and disagreed with him.
He kept all his promises? Here are a few he didn't keep: Eliminating the national debt, which he increased just as Reagan did by increasing spending while cutting taxes; Mexico paying for the Wall; bringing back jobs from overseas, as mentioned; repealing and replacing Obamacare with his own health care plan, which he never introduced; achieving a 4% GDP every year; he never came close; lowering drug prices for consumers; he didn't, but under Biden a bill has been passed to do that; peace in the Middle East; he did peace treaties between countries that have never been at war; do you see peace between Palestine and Israel? producing his tax returns; he still hasn't.
You didn't back up anything. Black college funding; I'm sure you really give a shit about that . On every other "accomplishment", you're dead wrong.
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@averywood4573 Funny, I don't find any record of Trump saying that. What I did find was repeated delays by Trump and his lawyers in trying to prevent the FBI from reviewing the documents obtained by NARA.
NARA first contacted Trump representatives in May 2021,not 2022, saying that, regarding the documents provided by Trump to that point some documents appeared to be missing.
Throughout the rest of 2021, Trump attempted to delay the FBI looking at the documents NARA had, citing executive privilege and other bullshit. It was determined that as a former president he had no executive privilege.
In February 2022,, the archivist sent a letter to the House Oversight Committee saying that some of the documents appeared to contain classified information.
On June 3, ,2022, a subpoena was issued to get additional documents. Trump's lawyers at that time told DOJ that they had all the documents stored at at Mar a Lago. Told by someone else that there were in fact remaining documents at the house, the DOJ got the search warrant executed in August.
Again, I find no record of Trump telling DOJ in July or August that they could have any documents they wanted. Instead, he delayed and told them through his lawyers there was nothing more to find. In view of what was found in the August search, that was obviously a lie.
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@michaelstark777 Better now with that crazy, lazy, dangerous fat Trump out of the White House. . Trump inherited a good economy and really didn't accomplish much in that area. A 1.2% decline in unemployment from where Obama left it to Trump's "50 year low" was nothing, but Trump had to brag about it. US manufacturing went into a recession in 2019 and Trump's tariffs were a disaster.
As far as immigration, Trump had nothing under control. 2021 under Biden was a record year for border arrests and detentions.
Everything else you mention-- inflation, food and gas prices-- have nothing to do with who is the US president. They're global problems that, as always with inflation and related price increases, are temporary. Inflation and high prices are largely the result of the pandemic and the global recovery from it. Oil prices are a good example, as are the airline staffing shortages. Companies scaled back and in many cases are still ramping up, particularly oil refineries.
Inflation under Reagan was just as high, the result largely of the increase in oil prices. Was that Reagan's fault? The head of the Federal Reserve, appointed by Carter, raised interest rates to 20% to curb inflation. It worked but would be impossible now because the country and US consumers are carrying too much debt. Many current economic problems can be traced to the Fed's imposing zero or near zero interest rates for too long to keep the stock market and the economy floating. It's all built on debt and will come crashing down at some point. As far as that national debt, please don't try to put that solely on democrats. Trump did the same thing Reagan did-- cut taxes while increasing spending. That's always a recipe for disaster as far as ballooning the debt. Teh US went from being the biggest creditor nation in the world to the biggest debtor under Reagan. Now it's a broke ass embarrassment of a country surviving on debt just like a stupid American consumer who piles up credit card debt year after year then wonders why he's in such a hole.
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@kennyc6597 Inflation is global, genius, every country in the world is experiencing it largely because of recovery from the pandemic. Biden is not responsible for inflation in Europe or anywhere else, and the US is not immune to global inflation or the reasons for it.
Gas prices have been going down for two months. Try again. BTW, the president doesn't control gas prices either. Again, the price of oil is up globally, including here, as refineries are still ramping up from production cutbacks during the pandemic.
The same with supply issues, just like staffing shortages. Biden doesnt control any of that; no president ever has or ever will.
The borders aren't open. 2021 was a record year for border arrests and detentions.
The deal with the Taliban to withdraw from Afghanistan was made by trump in 2020. It included several measures that strengthened the Taliban's position before Biden was elected, including lifting the arms embargo, allowing them to work closely with al Qaeda, which they were forbidden to do before, and releasing 5000 Taliban from prison while reducing the number of US troops to 2500. All Trump's doing.
As far as jobs, you have no idea what jobs people are taking in what states. To reach his "record", the unemployment rate under Trump only had to drop 1.2%, from 4.7 where Obama left it to 3.5. Under Biden it's gone down 2.8% from where Trump left it. Go away. You're too stupid to waste time on.
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@chrisgolden2587 Every one of his lies is documented, genius. He's on video telling many of them. There are no remaining documents at Mar a Lardo. Oh, you found some. Don't worry. I declassified those. I didn't say that before, I said there were none there. Oops, some of them are classified? Well, DOJ should have known I had classified documents, even though I lied and said I had no documents, then lied again and said they were all declassified.
Oh and don't forget him saying the FBI planted things. Then his lawyer said the Trump family watched the search on video, so there was no way anything was planted.
How stupid are you , really, to defend this cretin?
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@TheBruce571 Lmfao, just as I thought. You had no idea what it is and had to cut and paste the definition from Wiki.
Here's something not cut and pasted. Populism as used by cretins like trump means capitalizing on the ignorance of people to convince them that they're victims and that the populist candidate is the only one who cares about them and will defend them, and that the "elite_-- meaning anybody with more education than them-- is out to "get" them. Huey Long was a populist as have been many of the most dangerous figures in history, including Hitler to an extent. Both Long and Hitler came to power convincing people that they had been victimized by "intellectuals" and "the elite" and that they and only they, Long and Hitler, could "save" them. If you'd read a little further in the Wiki entry, you'd have seen that George Wallace was also a populist. Playing on the ignorance and fear of paranoid, largely uneducated people gets the populist candidate where he wants to be, a position of power, and often, as Trump has proven, the populist figure is frighteningly unsuited for and unqualified for that position.
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@shiverman8 Did you read any of the articles regarding Trump's actions toward Ukraine? Of course you didn't. You probably jerked off over Trump's meaningless Middle East treaties between countries that have never been at war with each other, and his summits with North Korea after which he said "NK is no longer a nuclear threat", followed, of course, by NK building up their nuclear arsenal to its biggest in history.
Trump's foreign policy consisted of 1)ignoring problems, as he did in Syria, where he withdrew US troops when he caved in to Erdogan; 2) using other countries against his political enemies, as he did with Ukraine; 3)screwing those other countries when they wouldn't do what he wanted, again with Ukraine. 4)making bad situations worse, as he did in his disastrous deal with the Taliban in Afhganistan, among other things cutting the number of US troops to half the number of Taliban he allowed out of prison. Oh and don't forget the other element of his foreign policy: hero-worshiping cretins like Putin and Kim.
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@peterg6715 How do you have a peace deal when the countries involved aren't at war? It's not a step toward anything because the Palestinan issue wasn't addressed in any way. The countries involved may reap some trade and other benefits, but that has nothing to do with "peace in the Middle East.".
As far as Afghanistan, I'm not defending Biden as much as I'm attacking Trump. He made a terrible deal with the Taliban and as I've already said he had one objective-- getting out and getting re-elected. Typical Trump-- lazy, short-sighted, sloppy and poorly done. And as always, he didn't give a shit as long as he got what he wanted.
As far as Ukraine, we're fulfilling our obligations as they've been laid out for years. There is no connection between the Afghanistan withdrawal and what is going on in Ukraine.
"These people"? "Leaders " of both parties have made colossal foreign policy mistakes over the years. As I see it, the two biggest foreign policy blunders in history were getting mired in Vietnam and invading Iraq. Democrats were largely responsible for Vietnam, and Republicans were largely responsible for Iraq. The difference is that while both wars were needless, the US could just walk away from Vietnam while the Iraq debacle did serious damage that will last for decades.
As far as Ukraine, who knows what will happen. But the US role in it is not nearly as stupid and misguided as the disasters in Vietnam and Iraq.
If you want to start pointing fingers on foreign policy, the US has been fucking around and fucking up , under both parties, since WWII.
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@peterg6715 You're wrong on several counts. 1)There was no Congressional vote on invading Afghanistan. The 2001Authorization to Use Military Force was directed toward all terrorists and specifically those involved in 911. Every member of Congress except one voted for it. No specific countries were mentioned. 2) Saying we never should have been in Afghanistan is also incorrect. The initial objective was to capture bin laden and drive out the Taliban. Bush pulled out prematurely before either of those objectives was achieved, stupidly deciding to focus troops and overall effort on Iraq. That worked out so well. 3)Trump made his deal with the Taliban in April 2020, 16 months before the actual withdrawal. In that time period, under Trump's deal, the arms embargo on the Taliban was lifted, so that for over a year they were able to purchase as many weapons as they wanted. They were also allowed under Trump's deal to resume working with al qaeda, which resulted in their ability to take over more and more of the country before Biden even took office, especially as Trump, under his deal, cut US troops. Speaking of that, Trump made his final troop cut after he lost the election, reducing the number of US troops to 2500. Under his deal he agreed to the release of twice that many Taliban from prison, so that they could join the thousands of Taliban already outnumbering US troops in the country. It's almost as if Trump was TRYING to strengthen the Taliban's position and weaken the US position. He certainly accomplished that.
HIs only objective in getting out of Afghanistan was to use the withdrawal in his re-election campaign. "Look I got us out and got our boys home". He didnt give a shit what a mess he left things in, just as he didnt care when he abandoned the Kurds in Syria.
Trump 's deal with the Taliban put the US in a weak, untenable, unwinnable position. All Biden could have done differently when he took office was to scrap the deal, replace the troops Trump had withdrawn, and added more troops to undo the damage Trump's deal did in terms of allowing the Taliban to get stronger, better armed, and control more of the country. How would that have gone over with Americans, implying that we were going to be in Afghanistan for years more of fighting to undo the strengthening of the Taliban that Trump's deal allowed? Even if he had said he was putting back enough troops to secure the withdrawal, many Americans would have responded with "Look, Trump was getting us out and now Biden is getting us back in." Trump left a mess, as he did so many times, and somebody else had to deal with it.
Lazy, fat ass Trump did the same thing when faced with any major foreign policy decision. He blew it off and took the easy way out. He ignored Syria and let Asad and Russia have it; he ignored and abandoned Ukraine because they wouldnt fabricate dirt on Biden and let Russia get in a position to threaten what they're threatening now; he said NK was no longer a nuclear threat after his worthless summits, which NK followed up by increasing the size of its nuclear arsenal to its biggest ever. He was a foreign policy disaster, and Afghanistan is just one example of it. But he did achieve those Middle East peace treaties-- between countries that have never been at war. What a fucking dumbass POS fraud.
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Unemployment up 4%? Learn to read, moron. Unemployment went up .1 % from 3.9 to 4.0. That's still down 2.4 % from where Trump left it, and a 2.4 drop in one year is double what unemployment dropped, at it's lowest, in all four of Trump's years, when it went from 4.7 to 3.5.. BTW, experts agree that the rate went up because more people are re-entering the work force and seeking jobs.
As far as the national debt, it set a record under Trump too, because the US has been a broke ass country since Reagan was president. Dumbass Trump said he would eliminate the national debt. What happened to that? Tax cuts and increased spending happened, just as under Reagan. You think the debt ceiling wasn't raised multiple times under Trump?
Failed covid policies? Hospitalizations and deaths are down markedly. Nobody can fail at covid worse than Trump did--"15 cases will go to zero in a couple days". The illegals being shipped all over the country are kids being reuniuted with their families already in the country, or kids being placed with foster families.
One pipeline is not the reason for higher gas prices, which are higher all over the world as is inflation. Morons like you think the US is somehow immune to global factors. It's ignorant idiots like you who will cause the downfall of this country. Unemployment up 4.0 %. What a complete dumbass.
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Trump watched the violence on TV for 3 1/2 hours before doing anything. That may not be incitement, but it sure is dereliction of duty.
How can you be so wrong about so much? The PRA says that when a president's term is up, possession of all government documents automatically reverts to the National Archives. Classified or not, Trump had no right to keep any government documents after leaving office.
Why didn't Trump say he declassified everything in May 2021 when he was first asked to return any documents he had? Instead, he lied and delayed for over a year, until the FBI busted him with documents he said he didn't have,. Only then did he mention declassification, which again doesn't matter. He still wasn't supposed to have the documents.
A president can't just declassify anything without telling anybody else about it and following protocol. How would the effing government operate if the president was the only one who knew whether documents were classified or not?
A 2003 executive order from W Bush, renewed by Obama, in 2009, gives vp's authority to have and declassify documents.
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@debragreer4423 Lmao, how are statistics out today not straight? When Trump took office the unemployment rate was 4.7%, where Obama left it. The lowest it ever got under trump was 3.5%, a decrease of a measly 1.2%, but despite the small decrease, Trump bragged about his "50 year record low", even though most of that progress toward 3.5% had been made under Obama.
When Biden took office, the unemployment rate was 6.4%. As of today, it's 3.8%, a decline of 2.6 % from where Trump left it.
Do the math: Biden's 2.6% drop in unemployment is more than twice what unemployment dropped to reach Trump's 3.5, and it was done under 13 months of Biden versus four years for Trump.
The 678000 new jobs # is straight from the Bureau of Labor Statistics job report today.
Straight enough for you, dummy?
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@super_hero2 Allowing ignorance as a defense would allow every criminal in history to say "Oh I didn't know I was breaking the law."
And you're focusing on the wrong thing when you talk about intent. For a year and a half, Trump lied about having documents, then returned a few and said that was all he had, finally forcing an FBI search. According to the indictment, he also instructed his lawyers to lie when they were subpoenaed for documents, and say they didn't have any, and even destroy the documents if they needed to. Intent? Trump showed it for over a year?
This is all a waste of time anyway. Declassification is moot. He wasn't supposed to HAVE any government documents after he left office, classified or not, and he obviously knew it because of all his efforts to not return the documents. But again, he wasn't supposed to retain ANY government documents after leaving office, declassified or not.
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@peterrabbit2223 I'm basing my opinion on his behavior, nothing else. This "saga" has been going on since he left office, although many Republicans say the FBI search at Mar a Lardo was staged "right before the mid terms."
NARA noticed documents were missing in May 2021 and asked for them back. 2021, not 2022. He and his lawyers delayed returning anything for months, dodging with claims of executive privilege and other nonsense. Finally in June of 2022, not 2021, after NARA communicated to the DOJ that some of the missing documents might contain classified information, a subpoena was issued.
15 boxes of documents were returned, and Trump's lawyer certified that no documents remained at Mar a Lardo. When information was received that there WERE other documents there, Trump and his lawyers continued to deny it, and the FBI executed the search warrant. We now know what that search turned up.
Trump's next ploy was to say well, we lied that there were no documents there, but I've declassified them all so it's ok that I had them and ok that I lied.
Next, it's discovered that a good number of the documents ARE in fact classified, bearing designations of "Secret" and "Top Secret". Finally, Trump could no longer deny that he had classified documents at Mar a Lardo. But he wasn't finished obfuscating.
He had the gall to say that well, yes I lied that there were no documents. Then I lied that they were all declassified. Now since I cant deny that many of them were classified, the DOJ should have KNOWN I would have classified documents there.
Is Trump's behavior that of an innocent man?
BTW, Life is a Carnival is a song by the band, who you probably never heard of.
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@nilesanders5110 Lmfao so you get beat with facts on Jan. 6th and switch the subject to the economy. Trump didn't lead shit as far as the economy. Obama left a strong economy when his term was completed. Unemployment was 4.7%. Trump bragged about dropping it 1.2% to 3.5 for his "record", then it skyrocketed to 14.7 because of his mismanagement of covid. THAT was the worst unemployment since the Depression, loser.
Trump said he'd bring US jobs back from overseas. More jobs were shipped overseas while he was president, not fewer. US manufacturing went into a recession in 2019. Trump's companies got 38 more trademarks to do business in China while he was president, on top of the dozens they already had. That's bringing jobs back to America? He also asked for advice from companies who shipped jobs overseas to find out how he do more of it, and his tax plan gave incentives to companies that moved jobs overseas. America First. Right.
Trump promised 4% GDP every year while he was president. He never got close. GDP under Biden in2021 was 5.5 %. The majority of the problems in the economy this year are pandemic recovery-related and are global. not confined to the US. . Inflation, shipping congestion, supply line problems, labor shortages, gas prices.
On that last topic, morons like you think the price of gas went up because Biden stopped construction of ONE pipeline. That pipeline wasn't even scheduled to be completed until next year. Fools also think he cut back US oil activity. US oil companies increased drilling 60% last year. The problem is that refineries, like airlines and so many other industries, are still ramping up activity from slowdowns in demand, and cutbacks in operation and staffing, after covid hit.
Stop believing everything that comes out of Trump's mouth, in this case that he created a great economy. He didn't. And he didn't eliminate the national debt, NK is still a nuclear threat ("NK is no longer a nuclear threat; Kim loves me"), Mexico didn't pay for the Wall, and he didn't repeal and replace Obamacare. Just some of his many broken promises.
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@ericmedeiros5990 How wrong can you be about how many different things. This didn't start in January 2022, it started in May 2021 when NARA first asked Trump to return documents that he should have returned when he left the Oval Office.
First, he said he didn't have any documents. Then he said any documents he had were covered by executive privilege. He continued his bullshit delays through the rest of 2021.
Finally in June 2022 he turned over 15 boxes of documents and his attorney certified that was all the documents t Mar a Lardo.
After some classified documents appeared to be in the 15 boxes, NARA consulted DOJ and Trump said all the documents had been declassified, though he didn't tell anyone he did it or remove the classified markings.
The FBI executed their search warrant in August, discovering more classified documents. In an August court filing, Trump's lawyers admitted there were classified materials at Mar a Lardo, but that DOJ should have expected them to be there-- after Trump said there were no documents, then said they had all been declassified.
Those are the facts. Tell me where I'm wrong. Oh, and it doesn't matter if they were all declassified, which Trump's lawyers have already admitted they weren't. Trump wasn't supposed to have them at all after he left office.
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@vertonmccaulou5 Jesus, go back to first grade and learn punctuation.
Despite what you might think, the world doesn't revolve around the United States. The United States didn't "experience something big" then it spread throughout the world. Every country experienced the effects of the pandemic on production and supply lines. Only an idiot would think that inflation "started" here and spread globally. Example: since the pandemic there has been a worldwide shortage of shipping containers, many of which are not made in the US. Is Biden responsible for that? You don't know shit about the economy so it's a good thing you don't claim to.
If you're referring to Trump as a strong president you're just as wrong about that as you are about inflation. Trump was a lazy, stupid man who didn't give a shit about foreign policy. He held two worthless summits with North Korea then declared "NK is no longer a nuclear threat". NK:s nuclear arsenal got BIGGER after the summits. Look it up. They laughed at Trump.
Same with Russia. Trump said to the world that he trusted Putin more than his own intelligence services, and Putin smiled and thought "What a weak fool he is." Trump abandoned Syria to Putin and Assad and turned his back on the rest of the world.
If you're talking about the Afghanistan withdrawal, Trump, not Biden, made the deal that gave the Taliban everything they wanted-- lifting the arms embargo, lifting the ban on them working with other terrorist groups, and drawing down US troops to 2500 while agreeing to the release of twice that many Taiban fighters from prison, to on the other Taliban fighters already out and working with al Qaeda to take over the country before Biden ever got elected. All Trump cared about was saying he got us out of Afghanistan and he didn't care what sort of mess he left behind.
Go find something you actually know about and stay out of discussions on the economy or foreign policy.
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@pilato_f_ya_feelings First off, it's "juror's" daughter, not "jury daughter.
Funny, all the CBS and MSNBC reports I've seen say the judge described he and Sussman as "professional acquaintances", not friends. If the prosecution had a problem with their relationship, they could have asked the judge to recuse himself.
My son was on a baseball team with kids whose parents I hardly knew, and the few I did know I didn't like. A kid being on a team with other kids doesn't mean the parents are close.
You mention two jurors. You do realize that the unanimous verdict was returned by TWELVE jurors, not two Clinton fans acting alone. Also, the prosecution is as involved in picking the jury as the defense, and they didn't object to the inclusion of those two.
Finally, putting your comment in all caps doesn't make it any less stupid. I used all caps in my reply selectively, only to emphasize how dumb some of your thinking is .
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@mgithaiga1 I hope that was intended as sarcasm. Of course he"stepped down" What was he gonna do, camp out in the White House with a piece of fried chicken in one hand and a Big Mac in the other. Wait that wouldn't leave a hand for his mouth to suck his thumb and pout. I guess he could do it while sucking off the KFC grease.
Trump showed less dignity, and less respect for the country, than any president in history when he kept shouting "voter fraud" and rigged election". No president has ever done that.
Legal means to contest the results? He used a bunch of lies to launch one worthless lawsuit after another with Ghouliani and his fellow clown lawyers. . How many did he win, one? Audit after worthless audit, and some of them showed Biden winning by even more votes.
Trump is a classic populist a la Huey Long. He takes advantage of ignorant, uneducated(he said he loves the poorly educated) angry, paranoid losers to stir up worship to the point where they excuse every wrong he does and swallow one unfulfilled promise after another. He says he did something and they act as if he actually did it, as with North Korea. "Let's kneel because he talked to Kim." Then he pronounces that NK is "no longer a nuclear threat" and NK begins building up their nuclear arsenal even bigger and his worshipers still praise him. For nothing.
Then there's his 50 year record unemployment. Do you know how much unemployment had to go down to reach 3.5%.? 1.2 %, from 4.7 where Obama left it. But trump says he rescued an economy in the toilet, and his worshipers cheer. Then they talk about Biden being a terrible president, when he reduced unemployment twice as much in one year as Trump did in three +-- until it skyrocketed due to covid. Don't get me started on that. He ignored warnings he was given since 2017 that the country was unprepared for a pandemic and the national stockpile needed to be replenished, but he ignored the warnings and blamed the states for shortages of key equipment when they started running low.
He takes Putin's word over his own intelligence services and people praise him for standing up to the "deep state". He calls anybody who investigates his shit corrupt, when he's the corrupt one. That's one thing populists do--"The government is bad . I'm the only one who will do anything for you. Hate the government and love me."
Very unhealthy for any country.
I have much more, but no more time. Comments welcome. Trump is the worst president of all time. Let's leave it at that.
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Just imagine: 1)the FBI is part of DOJ; 2)the Archives asked DOJ to become involved on February 9, 2022, after they began asking Trump for the documents back in May 2021 and he refused to return them; 3)Trump's attorneys were allowed to search Mar a Lardo twice, once in January 2022 and again in June 2022, both times returning some but not all the documents there, which the FBI discovered when, after more attempts to get hm to return all of them, they were forced to get a search warrant to get them all; 4)Biden's attorneys searched for the documents without the Archives having to ask them to, unlike Trump's attorneys, who only conducted their first search after six months of requests for the documents by the Archives;6)Trump's attorneys obviously couldn't be trusted when they certified to the FBI that all documents had been returned in June, because 300 more documents were found in the August search, and one of those attorneys is facing charges for lying to the FBI.
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@mytrigger5613 So Pelosi invited Trump lovers who hate her to DC and they accepted? Why would she invite them and why would they accept to be part of her "plan". ? Did she and Trump get together and write his speech? Did she work with the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys to draw people to DC?
The only one who says Trump offered the National Guard is Trump. If the offer was actually made, it would have been to the Capitol Police, and they would have been the ones to turn it down.
Inflation was created by the artificially low interest rates introduced by the Federal Reserve. Moronic Trump attacked the Fed in 2019 because they wouldnt lower interest rates to zero. The country's current inflation troubles are the result of ridiculous interest rates imposed to keep the stock market inflated and prop this fake, debt-ridden economy.
Who was president the last time inflation was this high? Reagan. Was it his fault when he took office that inflation took off? No, no more than it was Biden's this time.
If capitol police let everyone in, why were so many Trump lovers busting out doors and windows and scaling walls, and why did hundreds of them plead guilty to their actions?
I know you won't stop believing the bullshit you posted, but please go to back to first grade and learn the difference between "there" and "their" and maybe you won't look quite as stupid.
BTW, Trump doesn't give a shit about you, or me, or any American except himself.
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@evolutionistheflyingspaghe2702 The simpleton's explanation for why Putin invaded, your explanation, is that Putin perceived Biden as weak. Biden's policies of reforming alliances between Europe and the US and re-strengthening Nato after Trump weakened it pissed Putin off. Contrary to what you say, paranoid Putin is alarmed by Biden's stronger stance against Russia, who saw that Biden, unlike previous presidents, including Obama and Trump, wasn't going to let him do whatever he wanted to do.
No country in the world was afraid of Trump, because they knew he'd withdraw US troops and turn a country over to them, as in Syria(a country doesnt have to be invaded for hostile countries to already have a presence there, as Turkey used the Syrian jihadists ),.The Taliban knew the same thing when Trump made his bend over deal with them in Afghanistan.
Trump's foreign policy was to ignore problems , walk away from them, or hold worthless summits as he did with Kim. The US position throughout the world got weak with lazy fat ass as president.
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@gizzyguzzi Lmfao, I'm not pissed , dumbass, because I have the facts on the birth certificate, facts that make Trump, and idiot worshipers like you, look like the fools you are. I didn't bring up Obama's eligibility; you did, and I gave you facts on the birth certificate and when it was released.
As far as Obama spying, suck up Barr first said he did, in 2019, then after Trump lost in 2020, and the Horowitz report on Operation Crossfire Hurricane showed that Trump's and Barr's claims were bullshit, Barr said the CIA didnt spy on Trump. Go debate somebody as stupid as you are; you don't stand a chance against me.
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@billhoward5580 Regan? Do you mean Reagan? The topic is not investment performance under Reagan or any president; the topic is interest rates. No president, including Reagan, has anything to do with setting interest rates, and the Fed's desperate attempt to boost the economy of a country already living on debt by lowering interest rates to practically nothing only made the debt situation worse. Ask any financial expert, other than somebody who makes their living getting people to buy stock, whether the current stock market is ridiculously overvalued ( unsustainably so) because of the Fed's interest rate policy over the last decade.
BTW, as far as Reagan, 1) the stock market had its worst day in history while he was president, Black Monday, when the Dow dropped nearly 23 %; 2) Reagan is the president who started the US on its disastrous trip down the debt hole. When he took office the US was the leading creditor nation in the world. When he left, because of his massive spending and ill-advised tax cuts, the US was the biggest debtor. Trump did the same thing.
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@roberthartford6614 Still no response on your allegation of treason by Democrats. What's the matter. Bobby? Could the problem be that idiots like you throw around terms like "treason", "Communist" and "socialist" without having any idea what they mean, and when asked to support your comments relating to those terms, have nothing to back them up??
As far as the videos, if you're referring to the videos of people NOT rioting at the Capitol, sure they exist, but they don't erase the videos of people busting out doors and windows and attacking cops. There was ample video evidence of the people convicted doing what they were convicted of, and some of those fools even took the videos themselves, or had other fools do it. "Here take a picture of me with my feet up on Pelosi's desk!" Brilliant. !.
Most of them plead guilty, and many apologized for what they did. Those convictions will stand, as they should, because videos of other people being peaceful don't change the fact that the ones convicted committed crimes.
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@benitosalazar3749 Lie much? The Democratic governors of Oregon, Washington state and Minnesota all requested National Guard help in 2020, and the Guard was sent in to Portland, Minneapolis and Seattle. Do you realize how easy that was for me to verify and prove that you lied? As far as DC, the Mayor, Muriel Bowser requested National Guard help on January 4, 2021 and received it.
It was the Pentagon, not Pelosi or anyone else, who delayed sending the Guard to the Capitol on Jan. 6th. The Capitol Police requested National Guard help and the Pentagon waited three hours to send them in. Once they were deployed, the Guard ran Trump's cowardly thugs out of the Capitol on their asses.
As far as eyewitnesses to Trump's behavior, if the agents give depositions that are certified by the courts in the jurisdiction where the depositions are taken, nobody can ignore them, not the media or the Committee. They're a matter of public record and are valid legal documents. You're both delusional and dishonest. Nobody is stopping the agents from giving depositions but their attorneys and themselves. Every citizen has the right to give their testimony in a deposition. The agents for whatever reason simply don't want to.
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@Gil7111TX In a 2002 speech BEFORE the invasion if Iraq, Gore made it clear he opposed the invasion. He said 1)it was distracting the US from tracking down bin laden after 911, which was proven true when Bush prematurely withdrew troops from Afghanistan to send them to Iraq; 2)the Bush doctrine was flawed, in that it called for the preemptive attacking of any country that MIGHT pose a threat to the Us; 3)he was concerned about a US invasion like the one in Shock and Awe, involving large scale bombing, disturbing the chemical and bio weapon stockpiles that Iraq supposedly had, which, it turned out weren't there, despite Cheney and Powell's insistence that they were.
Even Cheney said in 1994 that invading Iraq would be a mistake because it would leave a void in leadership if Saddam was deposed, ad create instability in the Middle East, which it did. Cheney changed his tune in 2002, falsely tying Saddam to 911, and the results were disastrous.
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@davesaldana7263 Be careful calling people stupid then posting a comment full of false information and stupid blind faith in Trump.
1)No president, Biden or Trump, is supposed to keep government documents, classified or declassified, after leaving office. The difference is Biden didn't force the FBI to get a search warrant to get the documents he had back.
2) How could you not notice that Trump didn't say he declassified anything until AFTER the FBI busted him at Mar a Lardo with thousands of pages of documents he said for over a year he didn't have? It's like the accused burglar saying "I didn't steal anything; I don't have any stolen property", then when the cops find the stolen property in his house saying "Oh the owners gave me that stuff I said I didn't have.."
3)Presidents don't declassify anything just by saying "declassified". There's a process, protocol, and a written record of declassification, and the president has to confer with other people , namely the heads of the agencies involved, when he declassifies anything. How would the government operate if the president was the only one who knew which documents were classified and which weren't?
4)VP's have had the right to have classified documents since W Bush signed an executive order giving them that authority in 2006. Stupid..
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@CornholioPuppetMaster Man you 're all over the place, from Hitler to gas prices. You need some training in organizing your thoughts, because as scatterbrained, and uninformed, as you are you don't succeed in making a point about anything.
One thing is clear, there are a lot of things you dont understand. Gas prices are a global issue. No president has control over them. They began going up, as did inflation, and supply line problems, under Trump, because of covid.
Obama's increased spending? Ever heard of the great recession? The budget deficit increased tremendously under Trump for the same reason it tripled under Reagan-- increased spending combined with tax cuts. The cost of living always goes up, every year. It doesnt go down. . How old are you, four and still living with your parents?
What peace did Trump bring? North Korea's nuclear arsenal got BIGGER while he was president, after he idiotically announced that NK was no longer a nuclear threat because of his worthless summits. The Middle East treaties were between countries who had never been at war with each other. Wow what a peacemaker.
As far as Afghanistan, dumbass Trump is the one who made the bend over deal with the taliban. That "deal" lifted the arms embargo on them, allowed them to work with al qaueda in taking over the country, and released 500 Taliban from prison, twice the number of troops Trump left in Afghanistan.
Learn some facts and stop making a fool of yourself.
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@dr.g3860 To be fair, covid played a role in the 2020 job losses under Trump. Eventually, the unemployment rate skyrocketed to 14.7. By the time he left office, it was down to 6.3%.
However it should be noted that after unemployment reached the 3.5% mark, which Trump bragged about endlessly, 50000 jobs were lost in February 2019, a year BEFORE the pandemic. US manufacturing also went into a recessioni n 2019, despite Trump's stupid promise that he would bring back jobs from overseas to the US. Maybe if his own companies didnt do so much business in China-- 38 new trademarks just while he was president-- there would be fewer US jobs overseas.
The fact is that unemployment, at its lowest, dropped only 1.3% from the time Obama left office (4.7%) to its 3.5 % low. In Biden's first year in office, the unemployment rate dropped form 6.3 % where Trump left it to the current 3.9%. In other words, it dropped twice as much in Biden's first year (2.4%) than it did in Trump's entire term, at its lowest of 3.5% ( down 1.2 % from where Obama left it).
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@samiam8641 Yes, I know what a Marxist is, and unlike you I don't need somebody else to spell it for me because I know it doesn't have a "k" like you spelled it in your first comment.
As far as gas prices, they didn't begin rising the first day Biden took office. On January 6 2021, two weeks before he took office, the average gas price in the US was $2.58. A week later it was $2.57. On January 20th, the day he took office, it was $2.54, so it actually when down the day he announced he was stopping construction on the pipeline.
Gas prices are up globally , not just in the US because of the pandemic and other factors. Prices are controlled by supply and demand, not politicians. As far as being "hostile" toward gas companies, somebody should have gotten hostile toward them, and auto makers, decades ago, and begun the process of getting the US off fossil fuels. Exxon and other major fossil fuel companies knew about the damage being caused by fossil fuels decades ago, and did every thing they could to cover it up. But an idiot like yo0 who only cares about the price of gas wouldn't care about any of that.
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@pwnedd11 1)I continue to disagree that one side is "going after " trump. You're using the excuse that it would damage the country if political parties continually prosecute each other. I don't for a minute believe Trump is actually concerned about what constant prosecutions of one party against another will damage the country. He's concerned about the prosecution of himself, because he wants to do whatever he wants for his own interests, legal or not.
My take is that until Trump became president, neither political party has felt the need to "go after" a president since Watergate, and both parties participated in going after Nixon..
I think it was correct to impeach Trump twice, because his behavior in both Ukraine and on Jan. 6th was egregious. Please don't try to say that there is a history of political parties from one president to the next prosecuting presidents. It isn't true. I find your contention that presidents are above the law appalling. Let a president follow the law as he took an oath to do instead of constantly breaking it as Trump did.
2)And I'm tired of people attacking the media for things Trump himself says. "That's not what he meant" gets very old when he constantly shoots off his stupid mouth, gets criticized for saying shit he shouldn't have said, and his worshipers come running to his defense. Where was the criticism when he stupidly announced that "NK is no longer a nuclear threat"?3)As far as what he did at Mar a Lardo, I think Hillary should have been prosecuted and I think it's correct to prosecute Trump.
Hillary mishandled government materials; what she should have been prosecuted for and to what extent, I'm not sure, but Comey said her behavior was not criminally chargeable. I doubt we'll ever know the answer. She did, willfully or not, destroy evidence under subpoena, or allow her aides to destroy it, and lie to the FBI, and for that alone she should have been prosecuted.
Trump should be prosecuted for the same reasons. He lied about having returned all the documents, and ordered documents under subpoena moved to another location. That's obstruction of justice.
He should also be prosecuted for showing classified documents to people not authorized to see them. No matter what excuses you make for him, I can't find good intent for doing that, and he shouldn't have done it. It was reckless, illegal and far worse than anything Hillary did with her emails
4)As far as the GA case, at least two witnesses have testified that prior to his call to Raffensperger, Trump admitted that he had lost the election. If his attorneys want to use the defense that he truly believed he hadn't lost, and was in good faith asking Raffensperger to investigate voter fraud, they're going to have a problem.
In addition to admitting at least twice that he lost, Trump was not asking Raffensperger to investigate fraud no matter what you want to believe. He asked Raffensperger to "recalculate" the election results; fraud had already been investigated, with none found, and the votes had been recounted TWICE. He was asking Raffensperger to CHANGE the vote totals by a specific number to give him an election he lost, again, having admitted to Meadows and others that he knew he lost. What is your definition of "recalculate"?
5)Finally, your contention that "both sides are crooked" is a cop out. No president has ever done what Trump is accused, with evidence, of doing. Neither side is totally clean, but to say Trump shouldn't be prosecuted "because others do it" is incorrect. That's akin to fools who compare his Ukraine phone call to Biden's role in the firing of the prosecutor. Trump was trying to dig up dirt on an opponent, as he often does; Biden was correctly leveraging US aid to get a corrupt prosecutor fired, and he was justified and roundly praised for doing it, including by many Republicans.
As I already said, to say Trump shouldn't be prosecuted for the alleged damage it would do to the country is equally bs. Let the damage be done to him, because he fully deserves it.
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@pwnedd11 If I overstepped in assuming you believe things you don't, I apologize. However, I totally disagree with you that Trump is "making fun of what he feels Biden is doing to him" and mocking it.
I say that because in an interview a few days ago with Glen Beck, he said basically the same things, with no indication that he was being sarcastic or mocking what he thinks is being done to him, and his desire to retaliate against those who are prosecuting him..
Specifically, he said that as far as indicting his opponents, "We have no choice because that's what they're doing to us." I have to believe he's totally serious when he talks about locking up political opponents, and I believe that because of his longstanding "look at me I'm a victim" stance that he assumes every time he's caught doing something wrong.
A big part of his "victim" position has always been "How dare they catch me? I'll get them." That's his attitude every time he gets in trouble, whether it's a civil matter or criminal. He NEVER admits doing wrong; his message to his supporters is always "join me in attacking the people who caught me because they're evil and out to get me". And his supporters keep falling for it.
Trump has said a lot of things over the years that disgust me, including his comment that Trump supporters who beat up and urinated on a homeless man were "passionate" in what they did. But maybe the most disgusting thing he's said is his crap about "They're not coming after me; they're coming after you."
Same old populist bs to appeal to the ignorant supporters who want to believe they are victims of the media, the elite, the Deep State, blah blah and blah and Trump has played these fools like a fiddle for a years.
The fact is they're not coming after other people unless they commit crimes like Trump did. The fact that you say he may or may not have committed crimes makes me wonder about your objectivity.
Trump is RECORDED violating laws on classified documents by showing the documents to people without security clearance. He's RECORDED trying to get the GA secretary of state to "recalculate" the election results and give him an election he lost. He's on the record ignoring a subpoena and discussing with his lawyers how to prevent DOJ from getting the documents they issued a subpoena for. That's obstruction of justice. He's on the record telling his lawyers to lie to the FBI that he had returned all the documents he had when the Mar a Lardo search showed he hadn't. That's obstruction of justice. There is no "may or may not have committed". He committed these crimes.
As I've already said, more than anything I'm sick of Trump 's bs that when the government prosecutes him for his crimes, they're somehow prosecuting his supporters. They didn't commit the crimes he's charged with; HE did. Nobody is coming after them; they're justifiably coming after him and his cronies who committed crimes.
And as I already said, I totally disagree with your premise that Trump is "mocking" or "making fun" of the efforts to indict him, and his plans to retaliate against his opponents. I think, based on previous statements, he's totally serious. He believes and has always believed he's above the law, shouldn't be prosecuted, and is a "victim" of a criminal justice system that, contrary to his bs, is not out to get him, or his supporters, but is simply out to make him accountable for what he's done.
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@chrisosborne3679 First, thanks for your service.
From what I understand, Trump just extended the Veterans Choice Program Obama started in 2014 where vets could get care from their private doctor.
As far as taxes, congrats to your Dad, but not every working class person/family paid less taxes under Trump's cuts, and some paid more, depending on income and other conditions. One thing for sure, the wealthiest got the biggest benefits. Also, tax cuts look and sound good, but like Reagan, Trump increased spending while cutting taxes, and ballooned the national debt. Not a good idea for a broke ass country like the US. When Reagan took office, the US was the biggest creditor nation in the world. When he left, it was the biggest debtor, due to more spending and tax cuts.
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@robertseavor4304 Trump's deal involved lifting the arms embargo on the Taliban so they could buy any arms they wanted from anyone, lifting the ban on them working with al Qaeda, which worked with the Taliban in taking over key parts of Afghanistan in 2020 and 2021, and cutting the number of US troops to 2500, half the number of Taliban fighters Trump agreed to let out of prison. The deal was made in April 2020. How could any "allies" be unaware of it? His deal left insufficient troops to cover the withdrawal, and as I said , if Biden had replaced the troops Trump removed, in order to safeguard the evacuation, so the few remaining troops wouldn't have been outnumbered and overwhelmed, you would have said "Look Biden is keeping us in Afghanistan, the warmonger." Trump's deal laid the groundwork for the Taliban to do whatever they wanted. Biden's mistake was in not scrapping the deal and at the very least, undoing Trump's stupid troop drawdown until the evacuation was completed. .
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@gacj2010 Do you even read my comments? When documents are declassified they are STAMPED declassified by the requisite agency.. The ones retrieved at Mar a Lardo were not.
They still bore the classified stamps.
Trump may have had the authority to declassify them but if he made that decision, he is required to notify the agency(ies) involved so that THEY can be aware of his actions, discuss it with him if necessary, and stamp them declassified. That wasn't done.
It appears that he just took them to his house, against the law and against procedure, and stored them unsafely. It doesn't matter what his reasons were, he wasn't supposed to do it, just as he wasn't supposed to (supposedly) declassify them without telling anybody. HE CAN'T DO THAT. Those documents aren't his personally. They belong to the government and the American people.
THE documents were in his hose, basically unsecured, and still stamped with the classified designations. Stop believing that Trump has the right to do whatever he wants. He doesn't, no matter what you and he believe.
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@shanepallette Impossible to quantify that based on "number of years". As president, Trump did irreparable harm, but if you want to get into years of activity, you can include the many people whose jobs he lost with his business failures before he became president, most notably his casino bankruptcies that cost hundreds of people their jobs and pensions, Trump University, and all his other scams.
As long as we're on job losses, you might consider his lie about bringing jobs back to the US from overseas. While he was telling that lie as president, his companies were obtaining 38 NEW trademarks to do business in China on top of the dozens they already had, and Trump was meeting with execs from US companies doing heavy business in China for advice on how HIS companies could do more business there. Instead of jobs returning from overseas, hundreds of thousands of US jobs LEFT the US for overseas while he was president. How man
y jobs did CNN send overseas?
It remains to be seen what damage he did as president with the classified documents fiasco that included completely empty folders marked classified, and an aide downloading classified info to her computer. .
Back tp covid, which you brough up, I'd venture he did more damage with his covid lies than CNN did with their lab leak stories. How many people died from actually drinking disinfectant? Any die from CNN''s position on the lab leak?
More importantly, how many died from states' lacking the necessary equipment and supplies needed in the early months of covid after trump ignored warnings before he even took office that the stockpiled was depleted and needed replenishing? I daresay more died from his laziness and incompetence than from CNN's lab leak stories.
Who did more damage? My money is on Trump.
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@shanepallette No, I'm just saying as I said at the beginning that CNN presenting false information doesn't change the fact that Trump is a pathological liar. What Zucker did was definitely wrong, but I think CNN's reporting on the lab leak theory was based not on the intent to mislead but on relying on information from the wrong "experts".
There is still no definitive proof that covid came from a lab leak, but Trump acted way back then as if it there was, so he was just as misleading in trying to shirk any responsibility for blowing off covid like he did in the early stages, just as he blew off warnings that the nation's stockpile of supplies and equipment was not prepared for a pandemic.
Bottom line, I think Trump's lies about covid were a lot more damaging to the nation than CNN's bad information.
Trump's lying in this speech IS intentional, designed to convince his moronic worshipers that he accomplished things that he didn't. I think his lies bear a lot more weight, and result in more serous consequences, than anything CNN publishes. His lies are designed to get him re-elected as president, God forbid.
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@Virginia-ok2cu I didn't say the man who attacked the pizza parlor killed anyone, and neither did the CNN guy. He said "THEY" have killed people. You say no people influenced by Q anon have killed people?
Search these names:
-Matt Coleman, Q anon follower, who killed his two kids with a speargun after he said his wife was contaminated with "serpent DNA"
-Troy Burke, who claimed Q anon believers told him his wife was a CIA operative, so he killed her
-Igor Lanis, Q anon follower killed by cops after killing his wife and shooting one of his daughters
-Anthony Comelo, Q anon follower, who killed a man because he said Trump wanted him to.
Oh, and the man who attacked the pizza parlor. No, he didn't kill anybody. He just fired an AR-15 in a restaurant where kids were eating and playing.
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@jensraab2902 I respect your opinion and agree that not prosecuting Trump will do more harm than good. It will embolden him and the ignorant idiots who worship him.
I certainly hope, like you , that the DOJ will not be afraid to prosecute him because they fear violence by his followers. But keep in mind, the US is not other countries. The gun violence here proves that, and I can understand after January 6th why there might be hesitation about prosecuting him.
Keep in mind also that as disgusting as he is, Trump got millions of people to vote for him in two elections, and many of those are paranoid, uneducated gun loving fools stupid enough to do things like attack the Capitol and later, FBI offices. These people, manipulated by Trump, hate government, as exhibited on Jan. 6th, and are looking for someone to blame for their shitty lives. Institutions are an easy target, and they could and probably will be be attacked if Trump is prosecuted.
Hopefully, fears of such attacks won't dissuade DOJ from bringing Trump to justice. I hate to see the country plunged into violence, but I hope more strongly that the government will beat back and beat down Trump loving fools who rise up for him, just as they beat them back on Jan. 6th. It's sad that we've come to that point, but Trump brought us here.
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@lawrencegregory8737 2021 was a record year for border arrests and detentions. That included the 15 people you mention, arrested, and it was in June, not last week.
As far as fentanyl, maybe if Americans weren't gobbling it up dealers wouldn't have such a lucrative market.
It's "maga" Republicans, not "mega". Stands for "make
America great again", the slogan Trump stole from Reagan-- stole, like he stole the classified documents..
Presidents don't control inflation, supply lines. Inflation is worldwide, the result of central banks around the world imposing artificially low interest rates for too long. The Fed is one of those central banks. You think the US is immune to problems that affect every other country in the world? Supply line problems are the result of the pandemic, as many industries and companies, including oil refineries, that cut back production n 2019 and 2020 are still ramping back up.
As far as the TN teacher, I live in TN. The DA who agreed to that man's plea deal is a Republican, Amy Weirich. The people who gave him early release are not local officials; they're members of the state parole board, which is made up entirely of Republicans appointed by Republican governors.
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@domberard837 An idiot lowers taxes like Trump when the country is already carrying a huge debt. Just like Reagan, he lowered taxes and increased spending. Brilliant. He promised to ELIMINATE the national debt. What happened?
Inflation was over 8% when Reagan was president. Did he get blamed for that? And inflation was never under 1% under Trump. Tell me, what did Biden do, or Reagan for that matter, to cause high inflation? What did Trump do to keep it low?
Trump creating a record number of jobs is yet another lie of his that you believe. When he took office unemployment was 4.7%. Trump's 50 year record was reached with a decrease of only 1.2% to 3.5, then it skyrocketed to 14.7. Biden cut unemployment 2.5 % from where Trump left it, in less than two years, kicking Trump's ass like he did in the election.
Also on jobs, Trump promised to bring US jobs back from overseas. Actually, the US LOST 200000 more jobs to overseas countries. US manufacturing went into a recession in 2019.Trump had a role in that. While president, his companies obtained 38 MORE trademarks to do business in China than they already had, and Trump met with executives of six US companies with major operations in China to get advice on how HIS companies could do more business there. HIs tax cuts that you love so much included tax breaks for companies doing business overseas. Yep, America First,. that's Trump.
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@Joellarainbow Clearly. It took me less than two minutes to find dozens of stories on US fentanyl deaths on Fox, CBS, NBC, ABC, Joe Rogan, CNBC, your favorite, CNN the NY Post, Breitbart, and CNS. Do they not have TV in your trailer park? If not, there are tons of fentanyl videos right here on YouTube, stupid.
"Your comments proves"? Go to first grade where they teach subject-verb agreement. I know you've been inside a school to mop the floors, but see if they'll feel sorry for your being so illiterate and let you into an actual first grade class .
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@jeffjones9217 You're very uninformed. The National Archives began contacting Trump in May 2021 after it appeared that government documents were missing from the Archives, meaning Trump hadn't returned them when he left office as required by the Presidential records Act. From May 2021 into 2022, the Archives continued to ask Trump to return all documents.
Trump through his attorneys delayed returning any documents, lying that he had no government documents that belonged in the Archives. Knowing this to be untrue because they had verified that certain documents were missing, the archives finally contacted DOJ in March 2021, nearly a year after first asking Trump to return the documents.
Finally in May or June 2021, Trump returned 15 boxes of documents, after lying for months that he HAD no documents. At that time he lied again, saying no documents remained in his possession. Knowing this to be untrue, the DOJ executed the search warrant in August.
The above information, which you can easily find if you search "Timeline of Government Documents Search at Mar a Lago", clearly shows that the search was not executed as some last minute attempt to affect the mid terms. The archives made repeated attempts to retrieve the documents WITHOUT bringing in DOJ, and Trump delayed turning them for over a year until the DOJ had to get involved and execute the search warrant, the results of which showed that Trump DID have documents at Mara Lago and had been lying and delaying all along.
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@Rexxxxxxxxxxxxxx I was under the impression that the archives noticed missing documents in January 2021 aftger Trump left office, and beginning in May 2021made repeated requests to Trump to return any documents he still had. For the remainder of 2021, Trump ignored repeated requests for documents, among other things having his lawyers say if he DID have any documents they could not be returned because he had executive privilege as a former president.
In January 2022 Trump did return15 boxes of documents but there still appeared to be documents missing, according to archives records. The archives notified the House Oversight Committee of what they suspected.
In June 2022, DOJ issued a subpoena and received more documents from Trump. At that time Trump's lawyer told DOJ that all the documents Trump had at Mara Lago had been returned.
Believing that some documents remained at Mar a Lago, the FBI executed a search warrant in August and recovered multiple documents, including some with classified designations. Along the way, Trump first said there were no documents Mar a Lago. Then after some documents were returned his lawyer swore that there were no more at Mar a Lago. Trump said any documents found had been declassified by him.
When classified documents still turned up, Trump changed his story again from "no documents" to "any documents there are declassified" to "Well, you found classified documents despite me saying I had declassified everything, but DOJ should have known there would be classified materials there since I was the president."
Tell me where I'm wrong. Tell me why the FBI searched Mar a Lago.
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@robadams1362 Show me evidence of Stelter, Lemon or any other CNN anchor saying they support defunding the police. Video evidence or evidence on their Twitter accounts, which you explicitly said showed them saying the police should be defunded. In 2020, Lemon said MORE police presence , not less, is needed in black communities and needed to keep the rioting in check.
Years ago when CNN was a "new program"? CNN is a network, not a program. It was started in 1980. Lemon didnt go to CNN until 2006, 26 years after it started. It was hardly a new network then.
You sure seem to know a lot about CNN programming for somebody who claims to hate it. The weather? What does that have to do with defunding the police? Like most people, I get my weather coverage from local channels, not from national networks.
Still waiting for that evidence of CNN anchors supporting defunding the police. Or you could just run away like a coward, as most right wingers do when they make false statements they can't back up.
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@eizyaws Exactly how I said. Watch any fact check video featuring Daniel Dale, and there are many because Trump lies so much. Dale relies on facts and knows them. If he doesn't, he researches and gets them. Trump pulls lies out of his fat ass to tell his moronic followers who actually believe anything he says, "Well uh duh Trump said it so it must be true". And the fact that there were over 30000 documented lies (you can look it up) told by Trump as president bears this out..
The amazing thing is, so many of Trump's lies are so easy to disprove with a little research
One example is his "best economy in history"). All one has to do is search "best US economy in history" and there are many that were better in terms of job growth, GDP and other key measures. Trump crowing about his 3.5% unemployment was bs. The unemployment rate when Obama left office was 4.7, so to reach 3.5 % it only had to drop a minuscule 1.2%. But Trump brags about it and his worshipers act like he dropped it 20 points.
Another example is "I eliminated ISIS". He didn't, and historical facts prove that he didn't, the most obvious one being that Isis was proven to have worked with the Taliban to carry out the suicide bombing during the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. Not only did Trump not wipe out ISIS, his worshipers don't know that it was his deal with the Taliban in 2020 that allowed the Taliban to resume working with ISIS. Trumpers don't blame Trump for cutting a terrible deal with the Taliban; they blame Biden.
Final example: "North Korea is no longer a nuclear threat". As soon as Trump made that stupid announcement after his summits with Kim, NK began growing their nuclear arsenal bigger and stronger than ever.
He's a; lying buffoon, but it's ok with Trumpers as long as the lies he tells them sound good and are what they want to believe..
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@jamessherman3925 A president's policies and alleged weakness on the world stage don't constitute war crimes, and neither is the incompetence you allege.
As far as funding the war, did the US not import millions/billions of barrels of oil under Trump? You think none of that money went to Russia's war machine? And unlike Biden, Trump played buddy-buddy with Russia.
In 2021, Russia was the fifth biggest exporter of oil to theUS. Canada was by far #1, and Mexico #2. Guess who was #3? Saudi Arabia.
SA is acknowledged as the single biggest sponsor of terrorism in the world, How long has the sponsorship of terrorism been funded by US dollars? How long has their protection money for NOT being attacked by terrorists come from US oil dollars?
Back to the world stage issue. You think Trump was some sort of foreign policy genius? "NK is no longer a nuclear threat after my summits." Response: NK builds up its nuclear arsenal bigger than ever. Most foreign policy issue fat ass lazy Trump just walked away from, as he did in turning over Syria to Turkey, Assad and Russia.
Trump's disastrous deal with the Taliban gave the, everything they wanted, lifting the arms embargo and allowing them to resume working with other terrorists group to gradually take over more and more of the country. Hos biggest screw up was reducing US troops to 2500 while allowing twice that many Taliban fighters out of prison. Brilliant.
And those are just two of Trump's foibles. If he was president he'd have us fighting with Russia, since he abandoned Ukraine and suspended aid to the mater they refused to fabricate lies on Biden.
Pull your head out of Trump's ass to look at the latest economic numbers. 5.7 GDP in 2021, a reduction in unemployment in one year twice what Trump achieved at his best (1.2 measly %). Try not to keel over from the facts I gave you, if you even bother to read them
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@toddtomarelli5316 No, I'm saying that there's the possibility that Biden was given the documents by someone and forgot he had them. As a senator, he wasn't supposed to have them legally and that should be investigated and clarified; as vp he was authorized to have them but should have returned them when he left office.
The fact is that by all appearances, he was never asked to return the documents he had, and he took the initiative to check and see if he had any documents, returned the ones that were found, and invited the FBI to search anywhere they wanted for others.
There's no proof that he stole anything.
It appears that Trump, om the other hand, took the documents to his home, kept them when he was asked to return them after he left office, lied about having them, after nearly a year of being asked, returned some but not all, though he lied that he had, and ultimately forced DOJ to get a warrant to search for what he still had. Very different from how Biden handled it.
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@jerrymarasco8878 Lmfao, 37 out of 44 advanced economies represents 84% of those countries. You're such an obstinate fool that you think if a country has a lower inflation rate than other countries that country is not experiencing inflation.
In every country you listed, with the exception of Saudi Arabia, which takes extraordinary measures most countries can't or won't take, inflation has doubled, tripled or quadrupled. Just because a country has a lower inflation rate than other countries doesn't mean the country is not experiencing significant growth in inflation. Ask the people in Greece how much they're suffering with inflation increasing by 21 x.
No, you're such a lazy-minded simpleton you want to blame it on the Democrats, Biden and the tree huggers, and delude yourself that the US is the only country experiencing inflation.. That allows you to ignore realities like port congestion, shipping container shortages, supply line problems and the many other factors contributing to inflation around the world.
As far as fuel prices, much of the increase can be attributed to oil refineries still trying to ramp up production which they cut back during the pandemic due to lower demand. But blame it on the tree huggers.
My niece is moving out of California, like many others. She tells me San Francisco has turned into a real shithole. Sounds like the perfect spot for you. Enjoy the homeless shitting in the streets, the fires, the mudslides and all the other wonderful things about it.
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@jerrymarasco8878 Try cherry picking countries with low inflation, as you did, without discussing the reasons behind it. Saudi Arabi subsidizes commodity prices and puts a celling on gas prices. Quatar's 2022 number of 5.9 is more than double their inflation rate of 2.3 in 2021.
If you believe China's reported inflation number, you probably believe them on covid too.
I don't know where you got your number on Greece. Inflation n December 2022 was 7.2%.
Lower inflation in Switzerland is largely due to the strong franc and lower utility costs regulated heavily by the government, as Saudi Arabia regulates gas and commodity prices.
More honest inflation figures than yours come from Germany, where inflation more than doubled from 3.9% in2021 to 8.6% in 2022, the highest in 70 years(the US number was the highest in 40 years, since Reagan).Inflation in the UK went from2.49 in 2021 to 10.5% in 2022, more than quadrupling. Russia's number went from11.9 in 2021 to 17.8 in 2022.
Inflation in the last countries named, plus Quatar, which don't subsidize or regulate consumer prices, parallel the 2021-2022 inflation increases in the US. Choke on it.
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@deborahkoller9463 Lmfao, why would a president take empty folders to Mar a Lago? Are you saying the FBI emptied them.
He didn;t cooperate with anybody. If he had, why would they have had to execute a search warrant? He was first asked to return any documents he had in May 2021,. He lied and delayed all the way into 2022, when NARA asked DOJ to get involved because of his LACK of cooperation. First he said he didn't have any documents, then returned 15 boxes with classified documents mixed in with others. At that time, in June 2022, he said all documents had been returned. The August FBI search showed that obviously he had lied. Again. Cooperated?
He's like a criminal accused of stealing. First he said "I don't have it", then when documents were found, "Oh I declassified all those", like a thief saying "Oh I have it what you're talking about, what I said I DIDN'T have, but I had permission to steal it." You people will make any excuse for this fat ass criminal.
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@dorimckee9512 I didn't comment on the election, except about his recorded conversation in which he asked the GA Secretary of State to "find votes".I guess you think that was ok. The election is long over, the results have been certified, and Biden is in the White House.
What do I want to believe? I want to believe the presence of government documents found in Trump's house, documents he wasn't supposed to have after he left office, according to the presidential records act. I want to believe that Trump is on the record denying he had ANY documents, then releasing a few boxes (after saying he didn't have them", and having his lawyers lie in writing that he had turned over all the documents he had.
I want to believe an FBI search of Mar a Lago, a search conducted because NARA still suspected many documents were missing. I want to believe that 11000 pages of documents were recovered in the search-- after Trump said he had turned all documents over. I want to believe that the idiot then said "Oh I declassified all those"-- after failing to use that excuse months before, when he said he didn't have ANY documents.
want to believe that several folders marked classified were empty, indicating that Trump either lost the documents formerly contained in those folders or gave them to someone. That's what I want to believe.
This is not about 2024. It's about 2022.It's about him stealing government documents, lying about having them and refusing to return them until the FBI retrieved them. You may want to act like that never happened, but it did, and I and many Americans want to see him punished for it.
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@uglifist309 According to the Presidential records Act, genius, NO president is allowed to remove and keep records, classified or not, after he leaves office.
If Trump did nothing wrong, why did he tell so many lies-- first he said he didn't have any documents, then he said any documents he had were covered by executive privilege, then when he turned some documents he DID have over, there were classified documents in the 15 boxes he turned over, then his lawyer said there were no more documents, then when more classified documents were found in the August search he said he had declassified everything-- only after the documents he said he didn't have were found.
You might also want to know that in an August 30 court filing, his lawyers admitted that there were classified records at Mar a Lardo, but that the DOJ should have known that-- after Trump lied about it all those months. Regardless, he shouldn't have had any of the documents and he refused to return much of what he had when he was asked.
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@Vutsman1 Wrong again, Doofus. Trump tried badgering the Fed into reducing rates to zero in 2019, with the moronic idea of refinancing the national debt. He's that stupid, the same idiot president who said "stock market gains will wipe out the national debt". He actually thought "national debt means how much individuals owe, not the country.
The Fed ignored him in 2019. they didnt drop rates to zero until 2020 in response to covid.
As far as printing money, as I've already said, their money printing and quantitative easing bullshit has been going on since Obama was president, and it continued through Trump's presidency. If you are trying to say the Fed just started printing money after Biden became president, you're a bigger fool than I though.
Teh current inflation has resulted from the Fed keeping interest rates too low for too long. When Reagan was president, they raised the rate to 13% to combat inflation, but in recent years they've been reluctant to raise rates because artificially low rates have been propping up the economy and the stock market, while encouraging people, and the nation, to take on more debt. Now the market is tanking because the Fed is raising rates, and the crooks who have been profiting from low rates are panicking.
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@aaronlarsen7447 One guy out of hundreds of guilty pleas. Did the guy do what he was accused of or not?
When somebody pleads guilty the judge asks them and their attorney in open court if they are doing so willingly. If the guy for some reason felt he couldn't fight the federal government and he stated that to the judge as the reason for pleading guilty, the judge should have asked what I asked at the beginning: "Did you do what you're accused of or not?" If the guy said he DIDN'T do it but felt helpless against the government, the judge should have said "Then I can't accept your guilty plea, if you say you're not guilty. I'm setting the case for trial and you can present evidence of your innocence then." That's if he actually has evidence exonerating himself. If his attorney didn't want to present that evidence for whatever reason, the guy should have told the judge and asked for time to get a new lawyer. If there was no evidence of innocence, now layer would go to trial, which goes back to the original question: Was he guilty of what he was charged with, or was he innocent and had evidence to prove his innocence?
If he was just spouting bs about going up against the big bad federal government, and is guilty of what he was charged with, he ultimately did the right thing and entered a guilty plea. Courts are for deciding guilt or innocence, not allowing guilty people to vent their feelings about the government.
What I'm describing is similar to what happened with the case of a guy who goes by "Baked Alaska". He said he was innocent and was only pleading guilty because the prosecutors threatened to charge him with a felony. The judge responded that if that was why he was pleading guilty, he couldn't accept the guilty plea, and set the case for trial.
What's the name of the man you're talking about who said he didn't want to fight the government so he was pleading guilty? I'd like to read the facts on that. If it's Baked Alaska, he screwed himself because he's on video doing what he's accused of. If it's somebody else give me his name so I can research it myself.
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@JohnDoe-rs7gh Well, I can see that YOU'RE too ignorant to know the difference between "your" and "you're". Did you know they teach that inn first grade? Since you didn't make it that far, you probably didn't know that, or the difference between "then" and "than".
WTF is "PDSD? Lmfao. Do you mean PTSD? Sure, you're a retired cop, not knowing what PTSD is. Retired mall cop maybe.
The injuries to cops on Jan 6 included concussions, cracked ribs, and a lost eye. Let me know when you'd like to find out how any of those feel. As far as bear spray, if it's so harmless, I'll be glad to try that on you too, tough guy.
Those charged with trespassing were legitimately charged with it because the Capitol(not Captiol) was off limits to any visitors that day. Others, like that stupid "shaman" were charged legitimately with obstructing a federal proceeding. He and the others charged weren't supposed to be there at all.
The cops didn't try to stop anybody? I guess you missed the footage of them pushing and shoving protesters away from the barriers, even though they were outnumbered.
And you might also note that many of these thugs pled guilty to what they were charged with, and a number of them apologized and said they regretted doing what they did for Trump.
I watched plenty of footage of doors and windows being busted out, people scaling walls, and otherwise vandalizing government property. One stupid woman was justifiably shot to death for disobeying an order not to climb through a busted out door. Good riddance.
Eff off, you delusional loser.
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@gideonthejudge9036 Rest assured, Judge(lmfao, what a pretentious pompous ass you are; judge of who or what?), I know how to use a hyphen. I've used that phrase "Trump- loving thugs" many times on YouTube, because I like it and I think it fits. I just happened to omit the hyphen in that comment.
For most poorly educated Trumpers, the missing hyphen wouldn't have mattered. They can't seem to grasp the difference between "your" and "you're" or "then and "than".
Actually, "Trump loving thugs", without the hyphen, seems okay too, when you think about it. Trump called those thugs" patriots", "peaceful people", "tremendous people". and watched them for 3 1/2 hours on TV without intervening. He told McCarthy when that POS pleaded for help that apparently "those people care more about the election than you do". Trump relished every second of what they did.
Now that we're past your hyphen distress, I still don't know what you say the media are lying about. They based their coverage on what was shown live on Jan. 6th and the videos seen numerous times since then. Carlson is the one lying, as many Republicans in Congress have pointed out, when he uses a few clips of people being escorted by cops to imply that the whole thing was peaceful.
Funny, I got no response from you regarding the video evidence, much of it right here on YouTube, of the violence that did occur. Why can't you talk about that instead of a missing hyphen?
BTW, it's "en masse", as long as we're correcting other people's writing.
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@Gia-ye8vq Trump's pullout from Syria resulted in the Kurds, former US allies, going over to Assad, strengthening his position .It likewise strengthened putin's position in Syria, as the main benefactor of Assad. It also eased the incursion of Turkey into Syria, damaging relations between the US and Turkey, and increasing the possibility that US nukes in Turkey could be sabotaged or worse, stolen.
Yes, the US was much safer with trump as president.
What would you like to talk about next, maybe Trump's ignoring years of warnings that the national stockpile of equipment and supplies needed to be replenished? Then covid hit. And with the states short of everything they needed, bodies piled up outside hospitals. Trump's response: "The federal government is not a supply clerk." Well, donnie, in the case of the national stockpile, it's supposed to be.
Feel free to defend the fat POS against anything I posted.
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@Gia-ye8vq It's a scary what?
Do you really want to get into Trump's foreign policy, which was " just ignore it".?
Trump made the disastrous deal with the Taliban that released 5000 Taliban fighters from prison while reducing US troops to 2500, lifted the arms embargo on the Taliban so they could buy any weapons they wanted, and did, lifted the ban on them working with other terrorist groups, which they immediately did, with al Qaeda and ISIS, to take over much of Afghanistan before Biden was president, and as far as the US military equipment there, which Biden has caught so much flak about, made no allowance or provisions in his deal. He just wanted us out so he could use it in his campaign.
One more thing on Afghanistan. Trump said he wiped out ISIS. But it was an ISIS suicide bomber, working with the Taliban thanks to Trump's q2020 deal, who killed the 13 soldiers in Kabul.
But you gotta give it to Donnie on his peace treaties between Middle Eastern countries that have never in history been at war. Wow. Impressive. At least Kushner got his $2billion loan from the Saudis.
More?
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@realtalk2214 Sigh. Things weren't "way better under Trump." I gave you two examples of that, poverty and homelessness increases. Unemployment has already dropped twice as much under Biden in less than two years than it did when Trump reached his "record". It only had to drop 1.2% from where Obama left it to get to Trump''s record. Manufacturing went into a recession under Trump. The liar who said he'd bring back US jobs from overseas had his companies obtain 38 more trademarks to do business in China than they already had. How does that help US workers? Overall, compared to other presidents, the economy didn't do very well at all under trump.
If Trump declassified the documents 1) why didn't he say that way back in May 2021 when he was first asked to return them, instead of lying for a year and saying he didn't have them? 2)Why did he wait until the FBI found documents he said he didn't have to say "Oh I declassified all those"? 3)If the documents were declassified, why did many of them still bear "Top Secret" and "Secret" designations? 4)Worst of all, how can you not know that Trump ADMITTED that the FBI found classified documents. His latest excuse was "The DOJ should have known I had classified materials as a former president." How would they know without searching, after he lied that he didn't have any documents, then lied and said he'd declassified them all. How can you not know any of this?
And if you don't watch CNN, why are you posting on a CNN video? You should use some news source other than what you're currently using, because it's astounding how much you DON'T know about what Trump has done.
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@realtalk2214 How uninformed are you? They didn't take the documents in June because Trump's crooked lawyer swore that there were no other documents at Mar a Lardo.
As far as your complaints, no president controls the stock market, inflation, gas prices or food prices. I don't want to sound unsympathetic, but if your savings is gone in this small period of time, you didn't have much put away. Gas prices have been going down for over two months, and food prices haven't increased enough to break most people.
The stock market hit record highs at the end of 2021.The Dow Jones went up 18.7%. It's down 18% this year, so the average investor is about where he was at the end of 2021, not broke. Compare these losses to the ones under Trump at the beginning of covid, went market averages were down over 30% in February and March of 2020. Did you go broke then? did you blame market drops on Trump?
FYI, poverty and homelessness increased every year Trump was president.
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@paullangley1938 Uh, no, the FBI said there were classified documents , including ones that were carelessly mixed in with unclassified ones. These documents were found both in June when Trump, after months of delays, turned 15 boxes of documents over, and again in August, after he lied that he had returned all the documents he had, and the FBI was forced to execute a search to get the remaining documents.
If no classified documents were found, why did Trump, after first lying that he had no documents, say "Oh yeah there were documents but I declassified all of them". He's not supposed to have ANY official documents after leaving office. And Obama didn't have any documents, as confirmed by the National Archives. As required by the Presidential records Act, all documents in his possession were turned over to the archives to be put in his presidential library or stored in the archives.
If you'd pull your head out of Trump's fat ass long enough, you might be able to see facts and the truth instead of believing everything that comes out of his lying mouth.
No classified documents. Jesus, you are beyond delusional.
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@life_with_dogs_2025 Funny I can't find ANYWHERE that the FBI said they "discarded" or "eliminated all but 100 documents, Why don't you provide me a specific source for that, a source other than up your ass?
What I did find is that among the documents seized there were 100 CLASSIFIED documents among all the documents recovered. If that's the source of your confusion, be clear on this:
Classified or unclassified, Trump was not allowed to have ANY of the 11000 pages of government documents, because when a president leaves office, possession of any government documents automatically reverts to the Archives. No president is supposed to keep government documents after leaving office, much less keep them at his house, lie about having them, and refuse to return them, forcing the FBI to conduct a legal search.
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@jeffgriffith9942 Wow. It took you a day to come up with that? Your problem, well, one of them, is your obsession with your objective of proving that Republican presidents are "better than Democratic ones". What a futile, stupid approach. On the other hand, I acknowledge that presidents from both parties have made mistakes. That's called reality, unlike the one-sided approach you take.
You scratch and cherry pick to find examples of Democratic "failures" while overlooking or minimizing Republican ones. The more you post in your attempt to build your "Republican presidents were better" bullshit, the sillier you look.
1)You mention FDR's petroleum deal during WWII. Ever hear of the Normandy invasion? Was that a Roosevelt failure that had no impact on the outcome of the war? How important toward the outcome of the war was the petroleum deal? 2) You repeatedly bring up the Bay of Pigs. Tell me, what lasting repercussions did that have? 3) Similarly, you mention Vietnam, which I acknowledge as the second biggest foreign policy mistake the US ever made, second only to the invasion of Iraq in 2003. More on that later. . You fail to mention that we were in Vietnam longer under Nixon than under LBJ, and Nixon's accomplishment? A withdrawal with our tail between our legs.4) Carter's futile attempt to rescue hostages? How about acknowledging WHY the hostages were taken to begin with-- the result of US meddling in Iran beginning under Eisenhower in the early 50's. Iran was a US ally during WWII. Fucking around there as the US did, deposing Mossadegh and propping up the torturing Shah, turned them into an enemy and resulted in the Islamic Revolution, including the hostage taking. Iran wasn;t the biggest threat in the Middle East before the US turned them against us.You're the type of moron who probably said, when the hostages were taken "Oh the Muslims just hate us for no reason. What right do they have to take our hostages. We're 'Merica" without knowing any of the background leading up to the hostage taking. 4)Reagan? You want to overlook the rise of Middle East anti-US terrorism under that buffoon, including the bombing of the Marine barracks and numerous other bombings, skyjackings etc. while Reagan napped? You want to ignore Iran-Contra, a deal involving the country you call "the biggest threat in the Middle East". You;re totally full of shit the way you ignore, overlook or downplay Republican misplays, many of them by Reagan.
5)Still on Reagan. Read "War Crimes of Saddam Hussein". While Rumsfeld was shaking his hand and Reagan was giving him milllions in funding and arms, Saddam was killing hundreds of thousands of his own people. Reagan ignored that, because after all, we had to punish them Iranians for taking our hostages-- for no reason of course. . Do you know how ridiculous the US looked when, in 2003, they branded Saddam as a tyrant who had to be deposed, after supporting him throughout the '80s under Reagan? How were the Iraqi people supposed to trust the US after we blathered on about bringing them democracy and freeing them from a "tyrant" we had previously supported, then blowing up their country and opening it up to terrorists to bring them "democracy"? How was the Iraqi army, who offered to help the US after the ouster of Saddam, supposed to feel after we told them to get lost because we'd handle it on our own? Who do you think made many of the WMD's later used against Us troops? Former Iraqi military thrown out of work by the US who cast them aside. Yeah, trust the US. They'll take care of you.
And even prior to the invasion of Iraq, there was Bush's brilliant decision to pull troops out of Afghanistan before bin laden was captured and al qaueda was shut down, to transfer them to Iraq for the worthless assault on that country.
5)That brings me to an important comparison which I alluded to previously. Compared to the Bay of Pigs Vietnam, look at the long lasting repercussions of Bush's idiotic destabilizing of Iraq. In Cuba and Vietnam we could just walk away. The repercussions of our screwing up Iraq are still with us and will be for decades.
And that's really my main point. After WWII, the US was the hero to most of the world. Our screwing around throughout the world, meddling in the affairs of other countries, deposing their elected leaders while installing US puppets-- has made much of the world mistrust and hate us. And we did that meddling under both Democratic and Republican presidents. So your idiotic "Democratic presidents were worse" argument is just that-- idiotic. Presidents from both parties are responsible for the decline of the US position around the world since WWII. I acknowledge that. You never will because you're too focused on your ridiculous, one-sided Democrats never did anything right Republicans never made a mistake" approach to foreign policy.
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@jeffgriffith9942 Funny how you only seem concerned with "foreign policy failures" that occurred under Democratic presidents. No mention of Bush's disastrous and dishonest invasion of Iraq in 2003, and the equally disastrous aftermath. No mention of Reagan's courting of Saddam Hussein, which included providing arms and millions of dollars in an effort to use Iraq against Iran. No mention of Operation Ajax under Eisenhower, which turned Iran from a US ally to an enemy and is commonly accepted as the spark for the Islamic Revolution. If those presidents werent impeached for their foreign policy failures, Biden has nothing to worry about.
BTW, the Bay of Pigs invasion occurred n 1961, not 1962, and as an INVASION, is in no way comparable to Afghanistan withdrawal. further, its repercussions were minor compared to Bush's idiotic screwup of Iraq.
Finally, as far as the attempt to democratize Muslim nations, are you actually trying to imply that only the Democrats, no Republicans, were involved in that over the decades?
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@charleysmith1830 How can you possibly twist the historical facts that much? It's the FBI's fault that Trump kept documents he wasn't supposed to have after leaving office?
DOJ didn't become involved in the documents investigation until February 2022. Prior to that, the National Archives made repeated requests for any missing documents, and Trump and his attorneys spent over a year lying and delaying.
The Archives' first request for missing documents was made on May 6th, 2021. Under the law, Trump should have returned any and all documents long before that.
No documents were returned until January 2022, when 15 boxes of documents were given back, with declassified documents mixed in with classified ones.
Still believing that some documents were missing the Archives called in the FBI in February 2022. The Archives continued to ask for any missing documents to be returned, and getting no response, the FBI issued a subpoena for the documents.
In June 2022, more documents were returned, and Trump had his attorneys certify that those were all the documents he had. With the Archives suspecting that Trump still had some documents, the FBI conducted the legal search in August 2022 and found that of course Trump had been lying, that he still had thousands of pages f documents.
Caught with the evidence, Trump said he had declassified everything. Why did he wait until he was caught to say he had declassified the documents? Why didn't he return everything as soon as his term was up, as required by law?
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@debbierushing723 "subsupeaned" lmfao. Another brilliant Trumper. No. I don't necessarily think they should have subpoenaed Trump first. They obviously wanted to hear first from witnesses who could provide useful information on the POS's behavior on Jan. 6th, and they did, including his disgraceful statement that he wanted armed "protesters" allowed in a restricted area, his only concern, as usual, being himself. For Trump, it didn't matter what those thugs did to the Capitol building, police, or Congress persons.
If that doesn't tell you where his priorities were and are, nothing will. He doesn't care about the country, the American people or you, just what he can grift.
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@anniel1193 Sigh, it's not surprising that a buffoon like Trump got elected president with idiots like you out there.
Inflation is a GLOBAL condition, maroon. When it happens, as it did when Reagan was president and it was above 8%, it happens in countries throughout the world.
People why don't understand that think that the US should somehow be immune to the factors that cause it, in this case, mostly post-pandemic factors like supply line problems, port congestion, container shortages, and other things that affect ALL countries that import significant amounts of goods, which includes all advanced economies. The US is not immune to these facts, despite people like you who think we're" special".
Inflation HAS come down in the US, nearly 2 %, from 8.4% in March 2022 to 6.5% at the end of 2022.
As far as being manipulated, the same agencies that compile inflation #s have been doing it for decades, and nobody believes they're manipulated except ignorant people. Unemployment #s are manipulated? Then I guess the "record" 3.5% unemployment Trump bragged about was false, huh?
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@kimbercustompro1911 Lmao, do you realize what an idiotic comment that is? I can post facts but that doesn't mean I'm correct? Facts are Facts, ditz, even if they show that your baseless opinions are untrue.
1)The Presidential Records Act forbids any president or any government official from keeping official government documents after they leave office. That includes both Trump and Biden
It doesn't matter if the documents are classified or declassified or not. They're not supposed to keep them. They belong to the government. Classification or executive privilege has nothing to do with it. The law is the law.
2)do you not realize that Trump didn't say he'd declassified everything until AFTER the FBI busted him with documents that he lied that he didn't have? It's like the accused burglar denying he stole anything, then when the property is found in his house saying "Oh yeah, the owner told me I could have it." And morons like you believe that POS.
2)Executive Order 13526 signed by Bush n 2006 gives vice presidents the authority not only to have classified documents but to declassify them as long as they follow protocol, and make a written record of it, neither of which Trump did. . Notice Biden never said he declassified anything, unlike Trump's after the fact lie that he did. Biden admitted he had the documents and returned them. Again, declassification doesn't give an official the right to keep documents after he leaves office.
3)Obama didn't keep any government documents. All the documents he had are either in his presidential library or being digitized by the National Archives for preservation there. There are the facts. Choke on them, because you may not like them but they're 100% true.
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@michaelstark777 1)Trump was first asked in May 2021 to return any government documents he had. He lied about having any documents and delayed returning anything until January 2022.
2)15 boxes were returned by his attorneys in January 2022, with government documents mixed in with personal documents. 14 of these boxes contained classified documents that he wasn't supposed to have after leaving office.
3)It wasn't until February 9, 2022, that the archives referred the matter to DOJ, suspecting that Trump still hadn't returned all the documents.
4)In April 2022 the archives asked Trump's attorneys to check again since there still appeared to be documents missing. His lawyers delayed until April 295th. 5)May 11th a subpoena was issued for any remaining documents, 6)June 3rd, more documents were returned and Trump's attorneys certified to the government that all documents had been returned.7)The Archives continued to contend that documents were missing, and after all the time that had passed, from May 2021 to August 2022, the FBI obtained a search warrant for Mar a Lardo, with probable cause, and conducted a legal search, not a "raid". Teh search produced 11000 pages of documents that Trump said he didn't have, certified by his attorneys, one of whom may now face charges of lying to the FBI.
You have no evidence that Biden instructed the FBI to go after Trump. The POS Trump was given every opportunity, for over a year, to return the documents.
Biden didn't lie to the government that he had no documents or resist any efforts to get them back; he was never asked for any documents.. He voluntarily had his attorneys search for the documents and return them.
Now you have the facts and the timeline of events. Feel free to put your head far back up Trump's fat ass and breathe deep.
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How can you be wrong about everything? There's no evidence he stole the documents. He had every right to have them. His mistake was in not returning them when he left office. One difference is NARA never asked for the documents back, as they asked Trump for them back, and Biden never lied that he had no documents, like Trump did.
Trump, on the other hand, was asked to return the documents beginning in May 2021, after he was out of office, and didn't return any until January of 2022. Suspecting he still had documents, NARA asked DOJ to get involved in February 2022. Trump continued to lie and delay as he'd been doing for almost a year, and finally in June returned more documents and had his lawyers certify that those were the only ones he had. The FBI search in August proved that he was lying, and his attorney is now facing charges for lying to the FBI. You're an idiot.
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@henryroman5415 He wasn't asked because the National Archives didn't know they were missing. Trump WAS asked beginning in May 2021 to return any documents he had. He delayed returning anything until 15 boxes were returned in January 2022, and when investigators suspected that additional documents were missing he was asked again to return all the documents he had. He didn't respond to the request.,
In February the Archives requested that DOJ become involved because investigators believed the 15 boxes weren't all he had. He returned a few more documents in June 2022, and had his lawyers certify that was all he had.
When it was suspected that he still had documents, a search warrant was obtained, and 300 more documents were found, after which he said he had declassified all the documents-- the ones he'd said he didn't have.
Trump's lying about having the documents, and delaying in returning them all, is the reason he's facing obstruction of justice charges, very different from Biden's attorneys returning them without being asked.
The Chinese donations you re blathering abut are denied by the University of PA, and there's no proof they went to the Biden Center alone even if there were donations. Stop believing everything you read on Breitbart, Twitter and blogs.
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@johnaustin9051 Lmfao, totally misspelling a word is not a typo, It's illiteracy. Trumpers often do that-- just spell it like it sounds. I guess if a dummy has no clue how to spell a word correctly, as you didn't, they can't look it up in the dictionary, or they're too lazy to try.
Still, someone who has reached adulthood and SEEN a word a million times in print should be able to register it in their mind at some point and spell it correctly. Continuing to misspell "Mueller" "Muller" is a good example. Just spell it like it sounds, though it's been shown to them countless times.
Then again, many Trumpers didn't learn the difference between "your" and "you're or "there", "their" and "they're" in first grade, so like the simpletons they are they just keep on looking stupid. It's okay. Trump loves poorly educated people.
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@billbradskey7063 No, it's not rocket science, and I'm surprised the number is that high tho I verified it through several sources. But you left out the most important part. Hint: didn't I refer in earlier comments to the impact of covid? Well, here goes.
What you left out is that this really massive, accelerated money printing began with the outset of the covid pandemic, in order to provide stimulus checks to virtually every American and fund other covid relief efforts.
Your problem, Bill, is that this happened three times: April 2020, December 2020, and March 2021. Who was president in April 2020 and December 2020? In your case, two out of three aint good, as in two of the huge money printing escapades occurring under Trump.
To repeat the Carter/Reagan comparison, much of the groundwork for today's inflation was laid by the money printing done during Trump's presidency.
And again, to blame the nation's inflation solely on money printing is foolish. Interest rates were, as they always are, a big factor in setting the stage for inflation. And as I said earlier they were kept low by a short-sighted Fed attempting to continue to bolster a weak economy inflate the stock market to disguise how weak the economy has been since 2008.
. It's even more foolish to blame things like supply line problems on Biden. Inflation, along with supply line problems, high fuel prices and everything else you mention is being experienced GLOBALLY, not just in the US. IS Biden responsible for that?
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@billbradskey7063 Well, at least you admit that you want to blame everything on Biden. "the last two years". Horseshit. Do you think the Fed just started printing money when Biden took office? It started in 2008 and continued through Trump's presidency.
As far as inflation contributing to higher food prices, I never said inflation was the only factor, but it is a key one because commodities prices increase with inflation. Supply line problems of course contribute, and those are largely the result of changes made by corporations worldwide during the pandemic. Look at the labor shortages affecting the airlines. They resulted from the airlines responding to decreased demand during the pandemic by cutting staff, or convincing pilots to take early retirement. The same can be said about oil prices. US producers cut activity during the pandemic and it takes time to ramp up activity to its pre-pandemic level.
If you want to blame Biden for the current inflation, make sure you blame Reagan for the inflation of 1981-2, even though the conditions to create inflation occurred while Carter was president.
If you want an example of a supply line problem that can be blamed on the government, look at the preventable shortage of key equipment and supplies in the early months of covid. Trump as usual didn't take responsibility, saying the federal govt. is "not a supply clerk" and it was up to the states to have their own equipment on hand. False. It IS the federal govt.'s responsibility to maintain the national stockpile of such equipment, ad Trump ignored repeated warnings that the stockpile was insufficient to handle a pandemic. Like covid..
But you go on and continue to blame Biden for problems caused by the pandemic and decisions made by private companies. That's the simpleton approach, as foolish as saying the Fed began printing too much money when Biden was elected. Thís country is full of simpletons who think Trump was a good president, so what difference does one more make?
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@spalding1968 Just home long enough to check on the guys doing work on my kitchen, but will try to catch up with you later.
1. Where is your source for saying every document has a tracking umber? Didn't see that anywhere.
2. I haven't seen anything that says the president is required to notify anybody when he declassifies a document. Still, such notification would seem to be a good idea; otherwise, how does anybody in the relevant agency know that the document has been declassified? It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Trump did that, failed to tell anybody he'd declassified documents. because he's just that arrogant and stupid. After all, this is the same moron who disclosed classified information to the Russian ambassador in the Oval Office. Jesus, what a reckless dumbass.
But my real belief remains that he only said he declassified documents after he was caught with them. If he declassified them where is the memorialization of that? He doesn't have to make a record of it, just as he doesn't have to tell another single person that he declassified documents?
It appears that you're saying Trump can declassify anything without telling anybody. Does that seem like a good idea to you when the subject is classified information? In the Mar a Lago case, the documents were still marked classified, so it seems Trump, if he actually declassified them, didn't tell anybody, and to anyone looking at the documents it would appear they were still classified.
2. It also appears that you're trying to place the blame for possibly classified documents being at Mar a Lago on someone other than Trump. Specifically, you asked why the people responsible for tracking the documents(through the tracking numbers you still haven't proven exist) haven't been arrested.
On the one hand, if they allowed Trump to recklessly remove classified documents and store them at his house, I'd say they should be held accountable.
However, does that mean Trump should have taken the documents to his house, legal or not?
Blaming others for allowing that to happen is comparable to the morons who blame the Jan. 6th attack on the Capitol on the Capitol police for moving barricades to let some people in. My understanding is that some of the cops were instructed to stand down and do that. The idiots who say ALL the "protesters" were allowed /welcomed into the White Capitol on Jan 6 are ignoring all the videos of thugs busting out doors and windows.
The idea that others are responsible for Trump taking classified documents to his house is just as ridiculous. Again, if they didn't do their job in terms of keeping track of the documents they should be held accountable. But did they FORCE Trump to take the documents to his house? No, no more than the Capitol police are responsible for what the rioters did on Jan. 6th. Even for those who were let in the Capitol, did the cops force them to do what they did after they got in? No, and Trump wasn't forced to take the documents, similar to the question of how smart and prudent it was for Trump to take them, even if it was legal.
In brief, put some responsibility on Trump.
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@spalding1968 Obviously, we'll never agree on whether Trump actually declassified the documents. He says he did , to avoid prosecution, and you choose to believe him. I don't, because he's notorious for being sloppy, arrogant and stupid, as well as of course being a pathological liar, and that would likely include his handing of documents.
Regardless of whether he had the authority to do it, did he have the authority to take the documents to his residence and store them unsecurely? Read below.
The fact is that none of the three alleged charges listed in the search warrant require the documents to be classified. Trump can be found guilty of violating the Espionage Act, , for gathering and retaining government records, classified or not. He can be found guilty of obstructing justice for keeping documents that were part of a government investigation. Similarly as to the third charge, Trump could be found guilty of taking and concealing the documents unlawfully, classified or not.
The fact that he could be guilty under any or all three of those laws confirms what millions have known for a long time: he's too stupid, reckless and irresponsible to be president.
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@spalding1968 Yes, I'm sure about it, because that's what the FBI receipt from the search shows, including :
-12 sets of documents market classified
-5 sets marked TS/SCI
-3 sets marked confidential.
And one big reason no charges have been filed yet it as that, as Trump always does, his lawyers are filing bullshit motions to delay things, like his demand that a "special master:" be appointed .That same motion asks that the DOJ review of the documents seized be stopped immediately. In other words, Trump wants to delay the DOJ analysis of the documents which is ongoing and has to be completed before any and all charges can be filed. All these pointless motions have to be heard before formal charges are filed; otherwise Trump will claim foul and try to get any charges dismissed because in his sick mind he didn't get a fair hearing.
It sounds like you, just like your idol Trump, don't want a full investigation, which will require the analysis of 700 documents before specific charges can be filed..
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@jaygibson5057 Yes, and an arraignment occurs in court before a judge, genius. Defendants usually plead not guilty at arraignment to give their attorneys time to negotiate a plea deal, which was done with these losers. Then they came back to court and entered guilty pleas. Hundreds of them.
Anybody who "can't afford court", including an attorney, is given one. The thing is, I saw many interviews with Trump loving thugs who plead guilty. Most of them had private attorneys, so your "can't afford" shit is just that. And many of those attorneys, along with their clients, said the thugs were there for Trump, not because the FBI forced them to be there or do what they did. Many also said they regretted doing what they did in Trump's name. Rhodes is going to jail. Go back to Stupidland.
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@michaelmccaul6436 Cooperative? NARA first noticed documents missing in May 21, 2021, after he left office. Throughout the rest of May 2021,, they requested that he return and documents he had. He failed to respond until December 2021, , and finally in January 2022 15 boxes of documents were returned. February 15, 2022, the Archives made a criminal referral to DOJ after finding that classified documents were mixed in with other materials, and the FBI opened an investigation. NARA said in April 12 2022 that some documents continued to be missing and told Trump's lawyers they were asking the FBI to look into that. Trump's lawyers asked them for an extension to April 29. May 11, with no response from Trump's attorneys on missing documents, a subpoena was issued. On June 3rd, more documents were found through the subpoena, and Trump's lawyers certified that no other documents remained at Mar a Lago. Believing that more documents were still missing, the FBI conducted their search in August, and we know what they found then-- not only 11000 pages of documents but empty folders marked classified.
Cooperative?
And I read the Presidential Records Act, genius. It says that once a president leaves office, possession of all official government documents reverts automatically to the Archives. It doesn't say classified or unclassified, it says ALL documents. Trump didn't have a right to have the documents after his term ended, and he repeatedly lied and delayed in his attempt to prevent the government from knowing he had taken them, kept them and lied about it.
Worried? Yes, I find it concerning that any president would steal government documents and store them sloppily at his house, and did God knows what with the documents that were in the folders marked classified. You can stop with your WWIII deflection bullshit. He did what he did, and every American who doesn't have their head up Trump's fat ass like you wants him prosecuted.
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@dickbiggerjr3613 Well, are you aware that in the 1980's the US didn't perceive Saddam as evil. While he was torturing and killing thousands of his own people, including a poison gas attack on the Kurds, the Reagan administration looked the other way because they were trying to use Saddam to defeat Iraq. Ther's even a famous picture of Donald Rumsfeld, Reagan's envoy at the time, shaking Saddam's hand in 1983. Search "Saddam's War Crimes" to see the atrocities at the US ignored.
When he didn't defeat Iran in the Iran-Iraq war, he returned to being an enemy in the eyes of the US, leading to the 1991 Gulf War after he invaded Kuwait. This perception continued through the 911 attacks, as Cheney led the decision to blame Iraq and Saddam for the attacks, blowing Iraq to hell and ousting Saddam.
As evil as Saddam was(which the US was fine with as long as they thought they could use him), he was far preferable to the Islamic radicals who took over Iraq after his ouster. Saddam was actually a secular Muslim, meaning he allowed Christian churches to hold services without harassment, allowed women to hold jobs and go to school, and was generally far more tolerant than the crazies who took over after he was killed, torturing and killing Christians and women among other things.
As Cheney himself said in a previous 1994 interview where he opposed getting rid of Saddam, "Who would replace him?" Well, we saw who did, and the US invasion and ouster of Saddam turned Iraq into a terrorist hotbed controlled by Islamic fundamentalists. Huge mistake on par with the Vietnam war, except in Vietnam we could walk away with no repercussions. In Iraq, the repercussions of ousting Saddam are still being seen and felt.
I've always wondered what the Iraqi people thought when the US was bombing them to shit in 2003. "The US is freeing us from tyranny? This is democracy?" And what did they think when the terrorists took over? Thanks, USA.
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@CustCareRep The unemployment figure of 3.5% was a 50 year low, not an all time record as you imply. Unemployment has been lower than that several times. After he fucked up the covid response unemployment skyrocketed to 14.7.
When Trump took office, unemployment was at 4.7%, so it only had to drop 1.2% to reach his 3.5%. That's the lowest it got under him, and a 1.2% drop for any president is abysmal.
When Trump left office, the rate was 6.4. Under Biden it dropped back to 3.5 % in less than two years, meaning a drop of 2.9% from where Trump left it. In other words, the unemployment rate dropped twice as much,2.9% in less than two years under Biden, than it did for Trump's record, when it dropped only 1.2%.
The economy was strong when Obama left office. In fact, US manufacturing went into a recession in 2019 resulting in the loss of thousands of manufacturing jobs.
Trump's foreign policy was a joke. He alienated allies, isolated the US, and among other things abandoned the Kurds in Syria and abandoned that country to Assad and Russia, and struck a disastrous deal with the Taiban that lifted the arms embargo on them, allowed them to work with other terrorist groups, which they had been forbidden to do before, and decreased US troops to 2500 while releasing twice that many Taliban fighters from prison. He gave Afghanistan to the Taliban.
Trump's summits with North Korea did not make them "no longer a nuclear threat" as he claimed, but resulted in NK growing their nuclear arsenal bigger than ever.
Ending the "disastrous" Iran deal resulted n Iran ramping up their nuclear production from previous levels.
Supporting Israel through the years has caused nothing but trouble for the US, and made us enemies throughout the Middle East. What has Israel ever done for the US in return for that trouble, adn the billiosnin foreign aid we've given them?
Trump trusted Putin over his own intelligence services. His idea of "keeping him n line" was to et Rusia do whatever they wanted to do. Chia kicked our ass in trade while he was president. The trade deficit with China was bigger when Trump left office than it was under Obama.
Gas prices are not controlled by presidents. Theyre controlled by global factors. As far as energy independence, the US was still importing millions of barrels oil under Trump. Look it up.
2021 was a record year for border arrests and detentions. How could it have been more secure under Trump? You think fentanyl just started coming across the border when Biden took office? Idiot.
As I said above, the Afghanistan deal was made by trump, in 2020, and gave them everything they wanted. Biden had nothing to do with that horrible deal. Neither did Biden have anything to do with Russia invading Ukraine. which is looking like a huge blunder by Putin.
Inflation, like gas prices, is global. Every country in the world is experiencing it, some worse than the US, as a result of the pandemic and the resulting supply line and production disruptions. Are you dumb enough to believe that the US is immune to inflation? Reagan was president 40 years ago genius. Was the 8% plus inflation then Reagan's fault?
You want to talk about corruption? Trump's administration was one of the most corrupt in history. How many of its members had to resign in disgrace and went to jail. Mchael Flynn ring a bell? How many Biden appointees have been forced to resign?
Crime? Violent crime and homelessness increased under Trump. The national debt? Trump said he'd eliminate it. His stupid tax cuts coupled with increased spending increased the debt. It's dropped by billions under Biden. Look that up.
You believe everything that comes out of Trump's mouth, and most of it is lies and exaggerations about his accomplishments. Keep living in Stupidland.
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@davidc3943 So massive amounts of spending didn't occur under Trump ,including the covid relief package? Were you asleep all the years he was president? Morons like you always complain about Democrats spending and ignore what goes on under Republicans.
Trump did the same thing Reagan did. Cut taxes, increased spending, and ballooned the deficit. When Reagan took office, the US was the biggest creditor nation in the world.
When he left, we were the biggest debtor. Chew on that.
The two biggest factors in the current inflation are artificially low interest rates maintained for too long and covid /the economic recovery from covid, which includes businesses worldwide, including US oil companies, ramping back up after slowdowns in demand in 2020-21. That ramping back up is the reason for supply line problems, not increased government spending.
How did the Fed curb inflation under Reagan? Increasing interest rates, as they're FINALLY doing now under Biden.
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@davidc3943 Lmfao, Trump said he'd bring US manufacturing jobs from overseas. Instead, MORE net jobs were offshored while he was president. Products were made in America? If more jobs were sent overseas while Trump was president, obviously more products were made overseas, not in America.
More importantly, Mr. "America First " Trump had his companies obtain 38 trademarks to do business in China while he was president, 38 on top of the dozens they already had! He also met with the executives of six companies who make a lot of their products overseas, asking for advice on how he could do more business there. Feel free to look any of this up. You obviously took the wrong approach by harping on "relying on other countries to produce" when Trump does exactly that with his companies.
Finally,genius, US companies have been making products and sending jobs overseas for decades because they can make more money that way You really think US companies only produce things overseas when a Democrat is president?. Executives of those companies, not US presidents, decide where their manufacturing operations are located. Unless of course, the president is Trump, who has his companies manufacture as much as possible in other countries.
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@pamlatham2762 My user name is the name of a song by the Band, who you're probably redneck enough to have never heard of.
Now tell me what was so great about the country under Trump. And just to save you some time:
If you mention open borders and immigration, 2021 was a record year for border arrests and detentions.
If you mention fentanyl and drugs coming over the border, plenty of that was happening under Trump.
If you mention inflation, it's global, affecting every country in the world, and wasn't caused by Democrats or Biden. That includes gas and food prices. The US is not immune to factors that affect the entire world.
If you mention crime, violent crime increased under Trump, and increases under every president. Name the last president it didn't increase under.
I hope you mention the economy and Trump's "record" low unemployment. Unemployment only had to drop 1.2% from where Obama left it, at 4.7, to hit "Trump's" record. Biden has cut unemployment over twice what trump did in less than two years in office. Trump never achieved 3% GDP, while it reached 5.5% last year. Trump didn;t bring back jobs from overseas as he promised. In fact, MORE jobs left for overseas while he was president.
Mention foreign policy, and I'll point out Trump's golf playing turn the other way attitude toward foreign policy, where he abandoned Syria to Assad and Russia made a deal with the taliban that gave them everything they wanted to take over the country before Biden ever took office, and declared that North Korea was "no longer a nuclear threat" after which NK's nuclear arsenal got bigger than ever.
Trump insulted and alienated our allies around the world while isolating the US as a foreign power.
Mention "his" creation of the vaccine, and I'll remind you that the most widely used vaccine, Pfizer, was developed without any US funding or involvement, he left the national stockpile unreplenished, downplayed covid, said it would go away without a vaccine, and said 15 cases would go to zero in a couple days. Biden tripled the vaccination rate that Trump "achieved".
Now tell me what was so great under Trump.
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@TherealRandPaul 1)The US was energy independent for a few months off and on under Trump, at continuing cost to the environment, but who cares, we'll just make another planet so we can keep gas prices low;; 2)unemployment wasn't at an all time low; that occurred during WWII; it was at a 50 year old low, and to reach 3.5 % it only had to drop 1.1 % from where Obama left it at 4.6. Then it went to 14.7 during covid. Good job, Trump. Unemployment dropped 2.5% in Biden's first year, and the GDP in 2021 was 5.5, something Trump never got close to. 3)the Wall was doing nothing to secure the borders; 4)presidents don't control inflation, genius; inflation is high because of the artificially low interest rates imposed since Obama was president to keep the economy and the stock market going. Never a good idea. Inflation was just as high when Reagan was president, and the Fed raised rates to nearly 20%. That's impossible now because the US national debt is so massive we're already paying more in interest on the debt than the GDP, about 123 % of GDP; 5)Trump's tax cuts only ballooned the national debt, as happened under Reagan, and only benefited the wealthy.
Turn back on the pipelines? Biden stopped construction on ONE pipeline that wouldnt have been finished until 2023. How would that have stopped the increase in gas prices, which have been caused by production cutbacks due to reduced demand during the pandemic, including by US refineries still gearing back up from the pandemic when they cut back operations.
How is producing more oil and gas here safer for the environment? Please explain that, and I hope your understanding of climate change is better than your understanding of the factors behind inflation.
Last point: in Trump's "great" economy, US manufacturing went into a recession. Trump promised to bring back US jobs from overseas. Instead, thousands were sent overseas. And who participated? Trump, whose companies obtained 38 MORE trademarks to do business in China while he was president, on top of the dozens they already held. Yeah, that's bringing back jobs. What a fraud Trump is, and you think he cares about you and the country." Who cares if they attack the Capitol with weapons; they're not trying to hurt me." What a guy.
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@GPPTX He took classified documents that he wasn't supposed to take at all, and took them to his resort. The National Archives noticed documents were missing after he left office and asked for them back in May 2021. He and his lawyers delayed throughout 2021.
In January 2022 15 boxes of documents were returned. In February 2022 the archives informed the House Oversight Committee that some documents were still missing, and among them might be classified documents.
On June 3rd, a subpoena was issued for the remaining documents. More boxes were returned. Trump's lawyer said that all the documents had been returned and that no documents remained at Mar a Lardo.
In August, having information that all the documents had NOT been returned, the FBI obtained a search warrant and served it on Trump's residence. Hundreds of documents, many of them bearing classified designations, were recovered.
At first Trump said that he had declassified the documents, the ones his lawyer said weren't there. Then when it was obvious that the documents were classified, he said he had declassified them. No evidence was provided of declassification by him or his lawyers.
Trump then changed his story to say that the documents WERE still classified, but that the DOJ should have known he had classified materials-- despite previously saying that there were no remaining documents there, then saying that what was found was declassified.
It hasn't been proven that he sold out the country. The facts remains that he violated the Espionage Act by taking and keeping the documents, then obstructed justice by lying about having them and then saying they were declassified before having to admit that he did have them and that they were still classified.
Feel free to point out anything I said that isn't proven fact. And please learn the difference between "your" and "you're". They teach it in first grade, and I don't understand why so many Trump lovers either missed first grade or couldn't learn it back then.
Who are you referring to when you say "100% dictator Communist"?
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@jimwellnitz1751 CNN, like virtually every other media outlet, has reported the timeline of this fiasco, beginning with NARA's repeated attempts to retrieve the documents from Trump in 20201 without involving the DOJ. Trump's lying and denials relating to the documents into 2022 culminated in the FBI search, and the discovery of vast amounts of classified materials.
Trump's ever changing story has included: there are no documents at Mar a Lardo; the 15 boxes of documents finally returned under subpoena in January 2022 are all there are at Mar a Lardo; oops, when the August search turns up more documents, I declassified them; oops much of the material still bears classified markings, so yeah, t's still classified but DOJ should have known that-- despite my changing my story constantly.
CNN has reported the facts on the case; I have not seen them anywhere claim, as you do, to know what was in documents that have not been shown to the public or the media. The crap you spew in your comment is that, baseless bullshit with no evidence that any of it happened.
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@EpicAlcatraz99 Border arrests and detentions were at record highs in 2021 and 2022.What would you like him to do about Ukraine, hand it to Putin like Trump would?
Trump made the deal in 2020 that gave the Taliban Afghanistan. He lifted the arms embargo so that they could buy whatever weapons they wanted, stopped the ban on them working with other terrorist groups, so they immediately started working with al qauda, reduced the number of US troops to 2500 while releasing twice that may Taiban fighters from prison, and made NO provisions for what to do with the US military equipment there.
The economy? How's that unemployment rate? A little more than half of what it was when Trump left. US corporations had the highest profits they've had in years last year. Meanwhile, Trump's companies got 38 more trademarks to do business in China while he was president, bringing the total # to 105. Trump. America First right, bringing all those jobs back from overseas?
Inflation doubled in 37 of the 44 biggest economies in the world in 2022. Is the US supposed to be immune, "special" , when it comes to global inflation? It ls down to 4.9%here , while in countries like Germany it remains over 7%.'Explain just what a US president does to cause global inflation affecting the entire world.
Covid? Are you kidding? He tripled the vaccination rate that Trump's effed up rollout achieved. Bodies weren't piling up outside hospitals like they were when Trump left the national stockpile under supplied.
I'll take Biden any day over that corrupt POS Trump.
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@TimJr. Multiple media outlets and individuals. Since Trump just told the same lies he's been telling for years-- about the classified documents, his election interference in GA, the "rigged" election", Jan. 6th, his tax cuts, and a variety of other things, it was pretty easy to just use the same documented facts to show where he lied.
Examples: the idiot is on tape asking the GA secretary of state to "recalculate" the election results in GA, and the Presidential Records Act still says, as it always has, that when a president's term ends, any government documents automatically reverts to the National archives.
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@KentuckyBucky Lmfao, you're actually an Alex Jones disciple. You mention "fair and balanced research" in the same breath as Jones; you;re as crazy as he is.
He didnt apologize for Sandy Hook; he made a lame excuse that his "psychosis" caused him to say it was fake. Pizzagate was a total fabrication. Pizzagate alleged that Democrats were running a child trafficking ring out of the pizza restaurant basement. It HAS no basement. further, it has absolutely no connection to Epstein. If you;re implying that only Democrats went to his island, you should know that Trump's name is on the flight manifest for Eptstein;s plane, and that no sexual activity by any Democrats, or Trump, connected to Epstein has ever been proven. You might also want to be aware of Fox's defense of Ghislaine Maxwell.
All you need to do is search "Alex Jones' Ridiculous Lies" to see how absurd this con man is. He said the moon landing was a fake, that Obama was a Muslim, and that chemical warfare makes people gay, among other outrageous shit. Do some research yourself, idiot.
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@uraverageguy832 I'm sure a dope who doesn't know the difference between "worse" and "worst" really gets the economy.
Try reading "Biden Beats Trump When It Comes to the US Economy", 7-1-23. It notes that Biden has beaten all of Trump's so-called records that he bragged so much about-- 3.4% unemployment, lowest unemployment for blacks, Hispanics and women, most Americans employed ever, 161 million. Median household income also set a record under Biden, at $70784.
The best thing about Biden reaching 3.4% unemployment is that it represented a cut in half from where Trump left it at 6.7%. To reach his 3.5%, the unemployment rate only had to drop a measly 1.2%, from 4.7 where Obama left it. Of course, eventually unemployment went up to 14.7, largely due to Trump's mismanagement of covid.
Trump' economic record was horrible.
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@michaelmccaul6436 Please stop misspelling "counsel". It's been in print a million times. Your brain can't register it?
No, my timeline is exactly right. In fact, I got it from multiple sources with the headline "Timeline of Trump Mar a Lago documents". Teh FBI was not asked to get involved until 2022, as explained below.
1)The entity that waited was the National Archives, and they put up with Trump's lies and delays for months. They first began asking him to return missing documents in March 2021, shortly after he left office. He spent the rest of 2021 lying about having any documents, declaring executive privilege and other bs. 2) The archives delays were to give Trump every chance to comply with the law. 3)Finally in January 2022, Trump returned 15 boxes of documents after previously saying he had NO documents. The archives found classified documents mixed in with others, which constituted mishandling on Trump's part. 3)February 9th 2022, suspecting that all the documents missing had not been returned the Archives referred the matter to DOJ.
THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME DOJ WAS CONTACTED, so accusing the FBI of delaying is absurd.4) April 2022, Reviewing the 15 boxes further, the archives determines that specific documents are missing. Trump's lawyers request a deadline until the end of April to check and se if Trump still has any documents.5 )Getting no response, in May 2022 DOJ issues a subpoena for any documents remaining in Trump's possession.6)June 3rd, more documents are returned to NARA, and Trump has his lawyers certify in writing that he has no more documents. One attorney is certainly facing charges for lying, because 7)suspecting that all the documents had not been returned, the FBI in August conducted a legal search based on probable cause, and found that Trump had indeed been lying again , with 11000 pages of documents found at Mar a Lago.
There's your timeline.
Trump lied and delayed for months in returning documents he wasn't supposed to have. When the FBI search turned up what it id, Trump's defense was "I declassified all of that."(the documents he'd said for over a year he didn't have). Like the burglar who first tells the cops "I didn't steal it; I don't have it" then getting caught with the stolen stuff in his house: "Oh the owner said I could have it"-- translation, Shit you caught me now what Ido I do. Bring up the declassification crap.
He's guilty as hell. Feel free to check the timeline I provided.
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@josephsonora3787 Lmfao, if the news media is "fake", then what they report must be fake, right? How are they ramping up reports on Trump? They're reporting major developments like this one, and every media outlet is reporting these stories, except maybe Fox, which doesn't want to publish anything damaging to Trump.
If reports like this aren't important enough to report, and aren't "fake", why does fat ass Trump whine every time one comes out?
The media is desperate? Trump is facing charges of violating federal law for possessing government documents he wasnt supposed to have, lying about it, and egregiously mishandling them, as well as state charges on election interference in Georgia. He's so stupid he kept the documents in his house, and asked an election official to "find votes" on tape. And the media is worried about an investigation of Biden where no evidence has yet even been shown, and where a Republican-led committee investigating Biden already found no wrongdoing by Biden? You're ridiculous.
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@thorax9997 Hitler took advantage of a German people who felt victimized by the outcome of WWI, but I doubt that as many of them were as ignorant, poorly educated, to use Trump 's term, and misinformed as the people who elected him president and to this day still worship him.
He's a classic populist, taking advantage of losers who want to blame others for their status as "victims". Blame it on the media, or the elites, blame it on mysterious forces like the Deep State, and all the while convince these fools that you're the only one who cares about them and will save them, just as he implied in his Jan. 6th speech and off they went.
Their mistake, and yours, is believing that Trump gives a shit about the country, or you. He doesn't. Like Hitler, he only cares about himself.
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@Kermit_T_Frog Yes, Dad, I know what sarcasm is. Brilliant (silly as shit) user name, btw. Did you think of that all by yourself or did your two year old help you?
Since you seem to want more explanation of my reply, which was made as I was about to head to bed, here you go. As the commentator says, this is only a temporary political victory for Trump, not a legal one, If the judge had denied hm a special master, he would have had an opportunity to appeal endlessly as he loves to do. With a special master, the documents will be reviewed, he and his worshipers will have nothing to bitch about, and the DOJ can proceed with its business.
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