Comments by "Deborah Freedman" (@deborahfreedman333) on "See Michael Smerconish's reaction to Pence calling out Trump" video.

  1. If you'd heard his whole speech, he did say that, while there might have been a few irregularities, they were not enough to change the results of the election. Which is pretty much what Barr said.
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  2. So, you don't give him credit for not following Trump's bidding? He could have thrown the whole election into disarray, by refusing to fulfill his role. Then, the 'alternate' slates of electors would have had to be considered, and we'd be in a muddle worse than after the election of 1866. There were plenty of Republican Congressmen, who raised legal objections to certifying the vote. Pence did not do that. Further, when his life was being threatened, by seditionists wanting to lynch him, he refused to be whisked away, from the capitol. He was afraid, if his security team removed him, they'd not bring him back. So, he gamely stayed in DC, and assisted in the peaceful transition of power. Actions speak louder than words, and his actions, a year ago, were to defend the Constitution. Also, plenty of Republicans, who spoke against the insurrection, later repudiated their words, and signed onto the Big Lie. Pence has not done that. Give credit where it is due, and Pence is due some praise.
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  3. Trump has been bad mouthing Pence for quite a while, already. That is why Pence felt the need, to state Trump was wrong, to this group of conservative lawyers.
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  4. He can do as he's been doing, and put together an airtight case, even the orange tyrant can't wiggle out of, with any number of high priced lawyers. Or he can do as you suggest, and have him indicted now, without sufficient evidence to win his case. A wise person would prefer the former.
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  5. No, it did not. He stood by the Constitution, when it mattered the most.
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  6. Yes, I also said that in 2016, the Electoral College did not perform its function. But, realistically, do you expect such a divided Congress, to vote by 2/3, in both houses, to get rid of the Electoral College, or for 2/3 of states to ratify the amendment?
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  7. It's obvious, from Pence's actions on Jan. 6, that he knew Trump was wrong then.
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  8. For the same reason Manchin and Sinema remain Democrats, despite uncalled for harassment from their party, and censure by unelected idiots. They believe in what their party has traditionally stood for, and hold its core values in their hearts. Cheney and Kinzinger are true Republicans. They are social conservatives, who believe in the Constitution, national security, fiscal responsibility and small government. While they no longer fit in Trump's populist, demagogic party, which puts that vile man ahead of the Constitution, they would find the Democratic party an even worse fit.
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  9.  @thornyturtleranch4u  Pence could not have evoked the 25th amendment alone. Do you think others, in that pirate ship of a cabinet, would have stood with him? Pence bit Trump's hand on January 6, 2021, when he refused to go along with the would-be dictator's scheme.
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  10.  @PierreJut  Yes he did. You didn't hear the full speech. He said "Joe Biden won the election."
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  11. Do you honestly think it took no courage, to go ahead with the acceptance of the electoral results, after a gallows was erected, and a wild mob was chanting "Hang Mike Pence"?
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  12. He certified Biden's win. Despite Trump pressuring to do otherwise. Despite a violent mob, that elected a gallows, calling to "Hang Mike Pence". His actions spoke for him.
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  13. He wasn't too cowardly to do his job, and certify Biden's win, despite death threats. That was when it really mattered.
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  14. He was even braver not following Trump's orders, on that fateful day.
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  15. He has hopes. But, too many have fallen sway to the BS of their orange god, for Pence to succeed.
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  16. Smerconish, get the name of the law right. You keep saying electoral college act, even when corrected. It is the Electoral Count Act, and it needs changing.
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  17. If you listened to what they said, a few days after the insurrection, they were greatly outnumbered, and felt if they opened fire, the mob would kill them.
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  18. Yes, yes, yes! Since several Republican controlled states have already changed their election laws, so the state legislature can send whatever slate of electors they want, we need to change the Electoral Count Act NOW! Otherwise, regardless of how the people vote, Trump will win the White House again, in 2024.
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