Comments by "Don" (@dct124) on "TIME" channel.

he def trolling people with this one, I still can't think of 1 artist from 2000 to 2010 that's still relevant beyond Lupe who actually established his career through at least 5 of those years.
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+kathy kelly T.I. yes Kanye as a hiphop artist yes but he's been around before. I could add Luda to the list too as well as Game so that's a total of 5 including Lupe and really 6 b/c Em got his fame in the 2000's. This is part of the difference with the era's a lot of one hit wonders and ppl that are irrelevant now.
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+kathy kelly you're right. he was basically on a rampage from 98 and beyond but that was only 2 albums and mixtapes. Infinite didn't do much. Slim Shady came out in 1999. For me, I didn't know Eminem much until 2000 b/c I wasn't able to get Slim Shady, but when Marshall Mathers dropped I had friends who had it and it was like another world.
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+kathy kelly Eminem has to stay in the 2000's based on fame and catalog. The list would get shorter if you base things off when they were first putting out music, true. No one else I can think of from the 2000's still around or relevant but these guys (2000-2010 established career) Eminem Lupe T.I. Ludacris Kanye West 50 Cent The Game Jeezy Lil Wayne *Talib Kweli *Mos Def
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lifestraight look up Ross Capicchioni and Backwords from Joyner Lucas you won't be disappointed
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50 Cent is still relevant, don't be narrow minded. The man just had a song at #2 on the Billboard chart and during this time we're not able to base judgment on record sales. This man is really unbelievable. He's currently on a world tour and will have another album out 2016. Your opinion is based on that of either yourself or very few. The only true way to come to a conclusion on an artist currently is what type of shows he/she is doing and the turn out of those shows b/c the industry is still in disarray.
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lol, I answered a concern you had based on relevance (billboard rank). I'm not a hardcore 50Cent fan. The difference in this generation is a lack of attention span and the want of instant gratification. Example: Lupe Fiasco is still relevant and just dropped one of his best albums. But it wasn't commercially successful due to Atlantic Records and distribution. I worked in the field my man and what goes on behind the scenes is far different from what the average person perceives. Just ask yourself why you think you hear the same songs on the radio from the few hiphop stations? I get it, if you and your neighborhood friends don't want to listen to 50Cent, that's fine b/c the man has a whole different audience away from the states. He's also been putting people on, major investments, reinventing himself using the same blueprint as Eminem, and bankruptcy is a front.
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+alexander andrew Get Low was #2 on R&B/HipHop 9 Shots was #48 His last album Animal Ambition was #1 from Independent artist and #4 on the Top 200, the album was ok. The man just did a movie. I guess you guys don't listen to mixtapes and just like studio albums.
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+alexander andrew Before I get into this, how is Lupe Fiasco relevant (real quiet over there) The only person mentioned that's still at an all time high is Kanye West and it's not based solely on his music either. Stay focused my man, we're only talking about relevance of hiphop music artist from 2000-2010 and whether they are still relevant today, and Lupe most recent album didn't sell more than 50Cent last album which was mediocre (Animal Ambition). This is why I said numbers really don't matter but what you do at shows currently does to judge a persons relevance. So no I wasn't comparing 50 last album to Lupe recent album as far as content but relevance. 50Cent is currently independent, meaning you do not get and will not get the same exposure you've gotten in the past from a long list of reasons. Think about this, Curren$y is one of the best hiphop artist out and has been for the past 5 years consistently yet you won't hear him on the radio or club (east coast at least) and he's rarely talked about in the same breath as a Kendrick or J Cole b/c he don't have anywhere near the same sales figures but can still pack out shows. I could care less about numbers, but since yall have no idea what they are, here you go. 2013 - KANYE WEST - Yeezus : 1,200,000 (1st wk 327,000) 2014 - YOUNG JEEZY Seen It All : 320,000 (1st wk 121,000) 2014 - EMINEM Shady XV 290,000 (1st wk 138,000) 2014 - TI Paperwork 236,000 (1st wk 80,000) 2014 - 50 Cent Animal Ambition 124,000 (1st wk 47,000) *Independent 2015 - Lupe Fiasco Tetsuo and Youth 79,000 (1st wk 42,000) 2015 - Ludacris Ludaversal 125,000 (1st wk 62,000) 2015 - THE GAME The Documentary 2 146,238 (1st wk 83,171) Since your claim is that all people know 50 for now is him owing some money minus the movie he just made, minus a world tour, minus the fact that he was the 5th richest hiphop artist in 2014 & 2015. Bankruptcy was for his boxing promotion company and all bankruptcy is, is relief, it doesn't mean you're broke. All that being said, I realized that you base your information off of media outlets and not from the masses. Before someone says but 50Cent said he only worth 5 million dollars, if you believe that flock of crap you're a fool. Lastly pointing out that 50Cent is independent means he's made more money than most of the guys. As for net worth in some cases 4 to 5 times as more. Who knows until all this legal stuff is cleared. Figured I'd throw out these other guys DRAKE - If Youre Reading This Its Too Late : 1,051,000 J COLE - Forrest Hills Drive : 1,033,000 KENDRICK LAMAR - To Pimp A Butterfly : 714,000
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alexander andrew exactly, you have 0 to back you up.
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+King Kunta Lil Wayne I was talking about artist established in hiphop from 2000-2010 that are still relevant today and I'll add, at a decent to high capacity. To me Lil Wayne has been experimenting since "I am not a human being". Granted Wayne is technically still relevant; that I agree. Krit and CyHi CyHi has 1 Album, and came out in 09, the same goes for Krit, he just became relevant around 2010 with Krit was here, he's still trying to establish his rap career outside of the US and really outside of the South. Artist 2010-present Curren$y, Wiz Khalifa, Skeme, Nipsey Hussle, Hopsin (Funk Volume), Angel Haze, Earl Sweatshirt, Childish Gambino, Joey Badazz (Pro Era), Asap Rocky (Asap Mob), Chance The Rapper, Ty Dolla $, J Cole, Kendrick, Rick Ross, Wale, Drake, Big Sean, Mac Miller, MGK, Nicki Minaj & Meek, YelaWolf, Lil Dicky, Macklemore, Kid Ink, Future, FrenchM, SchoolBoy Q, Locksmith, Ab Soul, King Los, and many others are the NEW SCHOOL and they are all after 2010 as for there career gaining footing, pace and expanding beyond the US (the US is tiny compared to the world as far as hiphop) New heavy hitters Drake is not letting up and is making it very hard for others to shine. If I say Drake, Kendrick, J Cole, Macklemore and Nicki Minaj, these 5 are in a whole-nother zone in terms of footprint on the world in hiphop compared to their piers. Hiphop is in a Renaissance right now plus we have way more people on the planet, right now we have 7.3 billion people on the planet, back in 2000 it was 6.1 and less during the 90's plus you had insane amounts of black and Latino men and women being incarcerated, killed or strung out on drugs.
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Dude I'm seriously not about to go through all this twice with people who don't understand what the word Relevance means. Relevance by definition a. having significant and demonstrable bearing on the matter at hand b. affording evidence tending to prove or disprove the matter at issue or under discussion c. having social relevance Lupe Lupe didn't rule anything. Eminem killed everyone from the 2000's hands down. He pretty much out sold everyone I mentioned below put together if I'm not mistaken. CyHi CyHi first mixtape dropped in 2009 meaning he does not have an established career in hiphop due to lack of material and exposure. CyHi is in the 2010 to 2020 era of hiphop, don't bring him up if this is about artist from 2000-2010 whom established careers during that time. Industry As for the industry; that was covered too. An artist on a label has to sell aif I'm not mistaken 4 times as many records than an independent artist. I made the point about 50 Cent still being relevant b/c he's currently independent and sold 124K where the next independent artist not on a label at all that year sold 55K or less irregardless of era. The Game I mentioned Game and others as well already minus Lil Wayne. Here you go... Eminem Lupe T.I. Ludacris Kanye West 50 Cent *The Game Jeezy Lil Wayne *Talib Kweli *Mos Def *Lil Wayne Hiphop I know it's not about sales which is why I focused on shows, tours and events. The US is small in terms of Hiphop now, you got many places around the world living, breathing, doing hiphop more than the US.
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Again Big Krit didn't get his footing until 2010 when he dropped "Wuz Here", he was still very much unknown, Krit still to this day tryna get recognized by the masses. 300+ million people in the US and you only sell 55K, 7.3+ Billion people in the world. He not even touching half of 1% yet, that's not even a quarter of 1%. Krit is still local as far as I'm concerned although he's very talented and gets played in my car at least twice a week. Even if 50K ripped his last album he still at less than 1 quarter of 1% where as lets say 50 Cent is on a world tour with G-Unit and selling out shows and getting paid more there than in the US plus he going at Diddy with Vodka has a couple new singles, an upcoming mixtape and album that's anticipated to be like Get rich or Die Trying.
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King Kunta Dude I know exactly what Hiphop is, there was a question. The question was who from 2000-2010 with an established career during that time is still relevant (that era was a bs era among others even though we got a couple very strong individuals out of it). I covered what hiphop is too, Hiphop is Higher Infinite Power Healing Our People, Hiphop is what one lives, hiphop is going against the grain of a corrupt government system. Hiphop is being a human being beyond symbols and transcending spoken language. Hiphop is HUMAN expression including but not limited to Rap, Graffiti, Dance, MC, Beat Boxing as its core. Hiphop is taking what's given to you and being able to make it your own to continue in the healing process of all.
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going back to sleep
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Really? Really? You do realize I covered what hiphop is even what it was? The question, argument, what this was about is relevance in hophop (not numbers) if you were an artist from 2000-2010 and established your career during that time and you're still relevant today (criteria), numbers is merely a basis of coming to a legitimate conclusion of if you're relevant in hiphop partly. I even went so far as to say if you're a commercial artist you'd have to sell 4 times the amount to equal that of an independent artist. Not only did I do that, for one I believe that if you're a hiphop artist your relevance in hiphop should be based on shows, tours and events basically your exposure to those aware of your arts existence (numbers of sales was just something of a supplement to compare). Hiphop evolved from its core and this was already covered. Hiphop of the 80's is not hiphop of the 90's, 00's or current and it never will be at least in the US. I literally defined hiphop for the illiterate already. I'll let Mos answer you. Mos Def - Fear Not of Man "Yo Mos, what's gettin ready to happen with Hip-Hop?" (Where do you think Hip-Hop is goin?) I tell em, "You know what's gonna happen with Hip-Hop? Whatever's happening with us" If we smoked out, Hip-Hop is gonna be smoked out If we doin alright, Hip-Hop is gonna be doin alright People talk about Hip-Hop like it's some giant livin in the hillside comin down to visit the townspeople We (are) Hip-Hop Me, you, everybody, we are Hip-Hop So Hip-Hop is goin where we goin So the next time you ask yourself where Hip-Hop is goin ask yourself.. where am I goin? How am I doin? Til you get a clear idea"
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Young Faggot he did, it was kinda of an automated response I thought coming from those who argued the facts. 50 dropped Kanan Tapes which was a really good mixtape and looks to be dropping another one eventually.
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lifestraight this generation has a slew of mumblers. why some dudes don't just makes beats is mind boggling to me. get your money up, make some good beats with the equipment you bought and mumble your way to success. The same thing can go for 50Cent as someone said a while back that he wasn't relevant and yet he has one of the best shows out in Power and the mixtape he dropped was dope af
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50 has never been the conscious type. You're better off listening to 3000 new joint. I've been listening to Joyner Lucas mostly myself.
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whatever rocks your boat bruh. I like Mos Def and Lupe a lot. Joyner Lucas isn't concious either but his story telling ability and lyrical prowess is on the level of greats in my opinion.
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lifestraight ahhh 3yrs ago lol well I guess everyone know Joyner now and 50 still relevant. some artist know how to play the long game, very few
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Wish I could find that old ass argument I had on here. 50 Cent still relevant even more than ever and it's 2020. I still love listening to Vence especially Limos with Teanna Taylor. Vence still has a ways to go to touch 50 level.
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