Comments by "" (@RedXlV) on "The Drydock - Episode 101" video.
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@johnfisher9692 The problem is that would've resulted in another 1-2 years of work. France was presuming that obsolete battleships would still be better than no battleships at all.
In practice, this was a poor decision, as the Courbet-class dreadnoughts couldn't be laid down until after the Danton-class were launched, resulting in an even greater delay.
France also foolishly refused the suggestion to alter the Dantons during construction by replacing the twin 240m guns with single 305m turrets. This would've resulted in a subpar dreadnought, but still a dreadnought. There was an insistence that the Dantons must displace no more than 18,000 tons, and this would've put them over that limit. In practice, they weighed in at almost 19,000 tons anyway at normal displacement. There had also been proposals to use steam turbines in the Dantons, but France didn't yet have any factories capable of making them and importing the turbines from Britain was deemed too expensive.
Probably their best option would've been to cancel at least half of the Dantons, building only 2-3 of them in order to get a couple of BBs quickly while also leaving multiple slipways available to lay down the first dreadnoughts as soon as their designs were finalized.
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@stevevalley7835 My thinking, though, is that Britain historically had a single non-compliant ship that they got to grandfather in (Hood), while in this scenario they get at least 3 such monsters (2 Leopards and Hood). And there's a significant chance that if the Leopards and a 10-gun slow version of the Queen Elizabeths already existed, there would've been a requirement that the Admiral-class design be a meaningful step above what Leopard already achieved. As such, we're likely talking about a 10-gun Hood displacing close to 50,000 tons standard. Or perhaps a 9-gun Hood with triple turrets. Which sadly would result in a less attractive ship, but a pretty monstrously powerful one by 1922 standards.
If Britain has 3 Treaty-busters that they get to grandfather in, even if "only" mounting 15" rather than 16" guns, I doubt the US and Japan would be anywhere near as favorably inclined toward letting Britain also get that exemption to the 10-year holiday for the Nelson-class. For the Nelsons to still exist in some form, Japan would probably demand to get some additional concession beyond just getting to keep Mutsu, and America in turn would want more than just keeping Colorado and West Virginia. At a minimum, I figure America would also get to keep Washington and Japan would get to build a single 35,000 ton BB in the 20s.
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