Comments by "" (@RedXlV) on "The Battle of Jutland - Clash of the Titans - Part 1 (Beatty vs Hipper)" video.

@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Because the U-boats were far too slow to travel with the High Seas Fleet. Even the fastest of the U-boats deployed were only capable of 16 to 17 knots on the surface, and 9 to 10 knots submerged. Even the slowest German dreadnoughts were capable of 20 knots, and even the obsolete pre-dreadnoughts were good for 18.5-19 knots.
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@grandadmiralzaarin4962 The same is true of submarines, though. Until the development of nuclear power, there was no such thing as a ship that could cruise at full speed. And for a submarine to get incorporated into the main fleet, it would need to be used in a screening/scout role. Meaning it would need to be faster (at least in terms of cruising speed) than the battle line. The Royal Navy actually had submarines in WW1 that achieved that goal, the K-class. The problem is, they achieved it at the cost of being terrible at actually being submarines. They needed steam turbines to get that degree of speed, and I suspect you can imagine what a bad idea steam engines on a submarine were. A steam engine isn't something you can just turn on and off quickly, meaning it took them forever to dive and to restart the turbines upon surfacing.
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@touko_nanami For the same reason they didn't engage in the traditional close blockade strategy that had been the Royal Navy's standard in the past. Getting that close to the German coast meant sailing into the German minefields.
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@crabbyguy2737 The problem with a scenario where HMS Incomparable was actually built is the Washington Naval Treaty. The existence of a capital ship with 20" guns (while nobody else has anything bigger than 16.1") would've changed everything. I'm not sure any reasonable compensation could be offered to the other powers in exchange for letting Britain keep Incomparable, without in the process negating the purpose of the treaty entirely. As such, there's a very strong chance that Britain gets forced to either scrap Incomparable or convert her into an aircraft carrier. The latter seems pretty plausible, since building Incomparable probably means not building Courageous, Glorious, and Furious. This in turn means the 15"/42 turrets and guns that would later be used to arm HMS Vanguard no longer exist. Instead, we might see a Vanguard armed with 3x2 20" guns. In fact, Vangaurd might never have ended up existing at all, since in might well have been possible to adapt Lion or Temeraire (both laid down 2 years earlier) to mount those turrets (something that couldn't be done with the 15"/42s because going from 3 turrets to 4 meant lengthening the ship), which would've been a quicker process than halting their construction in favor of the all-new Vanguard.
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@GetWarded That's definitely a scenario I'd be interested in having discussed. If Major Harvey had succumbed to his wounds a little bit faster, Lion would've certainly suffered the same fate as Queen Mary. While that would've silenced 6 more 13.5" guns and allowed the German battlecruisers to shift their fire to another target (likely Lützow and Derfflinger targeting Princess Royal while Seydlitz and Moltke targeted Tiger and Von der Tann targeted New Zealand), at the same time it would've removed Beatty from the equation and put Rear Admiral Osmond Brock on Princess Royal (commander of the 1st Battlecruiser Squadron) in command of the remaining ships. It's highly unlikely that Admiral Brock had a signals officer as incompetent as Ralph Seymour either. That said, with the Battle Cruiser Fleet having already lost fully half of its strength, it seems likely that Brock would've ordered a retreat in the direction of the 5th Battle Squadron, allowing them to screen his withdrawal. It's also possible that the rest of the battle might not have happened at all. Hipper and Scheer might have judged this reduction of the British battlecruisers to be a victory in and of itself and withdrawn, in hopes of taking another shot at the rest of the battlecruisers in a future battle.
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@gabbah8324 The H-44 wasn't really "planned" since it was physically beyond the ability of any German shipyard to build, and in fact beyond the ability of any German port to accommodate. It was a design study rather than a plan.
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@gabbah8324 Everybody would've been looking to build ships that could withstand 20" guns. And even more inclined to cheat on displacement limits to do it.
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