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@real_lostinthefogofwar They didn't. Those fake "referendums" in no way reflect the entirety of Donbass.
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@real_lostinthefogofwar That's another lie. "More than half the population" most certainly did not leave with the Russians.
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@burlbird9786 In the 1991 Ukrainian independence referendum, the vote in Crimea was 54%, in Donetsk it was 84%, and in Luhansk it was 84%. Even if you adjust for comparatively lower turnout and pretend that those who didn't vote were the same thing as "no" votes, it would become 68% in Luhansk and 64% in Donetsk. Those are still very large majorities in favor of Ukrainian independence. Crimea was the only place where turnout was as low as you implied. That 54% of votes for leaving the USSR amounted to 37% of the eligible voters. Crimea is the only part of Ukraine where it wasn't an outright majority of the entire electorate voting for independence from the USSR. But even taking that into account, only the people who choose to vote get a voice in an election. Anybody who chooses not to vote is deliberately silencing themselves. If all of the people who didn't vote actually wanted to stay in the USSR, they should've showed up and voted that way. And Crimea retained its status as an autonomous republic even after Ukrainian independence, so it's not as if Ukraine was mistreating the Crimeans.
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@timkelly5602 It's Russia that's been carrying out massacres of Ukrainian civilians.
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@timkelly5602 Says reality, which you of course reject.
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@timkelly5602 You see, that's the thing you guys don't understand. You don't get to have your own reality. There's only one reality.
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@olgakuchukov6981 Russia is absolutely losing.
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@Patch801 You're a joke. Russia is being destroyed.
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The people in favor of Russian annexation were always a fringe minority in Donbas.
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If you deny that Russia invading Ukraine is "Russian aggression" then you're a lost cause. No logic will ever take root in your mind. One nation invading another is the very definition of aggression.
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Russia wasn't trying to "capture" Kyiv. The intention was a decapitation strike, to kill Ukraine's elected leaders and install a puppet government led by Viktor Medvedchuk.
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@drakekoefoed1642 It's hilarious that you still try to pretend Russia's military is competent.
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@BillMcGirr Congratulations, you're completely delusional.
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Because he's a far-right fascist Trump-worshiper, who claims the 2020 election was stolen and that the insurrectionists arrested for their roles in January 6th are "political prisoners". The Republican Party was the only place for him. You're fooling yourself if you think Joe Kent is a "peace" candidate.
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@JoshuaPoopsie No, it actually wasn't forbidden by the USSR constitution.
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@ "Ultranationalists" being the term Russia uses to refer to any Ukrainian who supports the existence of Ukraine as a nation separate from Russia.
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Irish is the minority language in Ireland, with most the country speaking English. Does that mean that Britain would be justified in invading and reconquering Ireland?
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@antondalemma5484 Are you kidding? Both the Russian Empire and the USSR did impose Russian on the population of Ukraine. Russification was very much a thing. At times, the Ukrainian language actually was outright banned.
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That's a blatant lie. The reason that Ukraine was "merely a region" in the Russian Empire is that the Russian Empire conquered Ukraine. Ukraine declared independence in 1917, but was promptly conquered again by Bolshevik Russia and forced against their will into the USSR. It's Russia that's the terrorist state.
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@nirbija "Mother Russia" is maintaining Belarus as a puppet state. A colony. That's precisely the status that Ukraine rejects. And that's why Russia invaded Ukraine.
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None of that ever happened. It's a fairy tale.
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@ There is no "how it really went." The story posted above is pure fiction, not even the tiniest shred of basis in fact. The Brits never directed any of Ukraine's drone attacks. There was no missile attack that wiped out all the drone operators. And an Iskander ballistic missile cannot be used for a precision strike, because it's only accurate to within about 70 meters (230 feet).
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She's not telling the truth at all.
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Funny how you condemn everyone except the actual Russian invaders.
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@ It's amazing how the people posting here will blame everyone except Putin for all of the bloodshed caused by Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
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@ Stop blaming everyone else for Putin's actions.
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@franklin2846 And you pretend to be anti-war while claiming it was "level-headed and wise" for Putin to start the war?
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@franklin2846 "Get an education" by reading propaganda? It was Russia that invaded Ukraine.
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@ I'll bet you claim to be a leftist, while vehemently supporting the reactionary empire that is Putin's Russia.
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"Circling Russia" say idiots who can't read a map.
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Russia has no sovereignty over Ukraine. Donbas is part of Ukraine. And Russia's claim of "defending Russian speakers in Donbas" is no different than Nazi Germany's claim of "defending German speakers in Sudetenland".
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It's Russia that's an actual empire, and has zero interest in peace.
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@humwawa3468 Russia created this war. The idea that they "want peace" is laughable.
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What this actually exposes is Grayzone's corruption. Bringing in one of Rudy Giuliani's corrupt co-conspirators to spin a bunch of lies.
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Russia are the fascists.
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All of those videos you refer to are Russian propaganda.
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@knightalexius593 That's because the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth had conquered Kyivan Rus after the latter's decline in power. And then later Russia came in and seized much of that territory from Poland (the infamous partitions of Poland). As for the the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, it was not created out of nothing. It came about after the Bolsheviks invaded and conquered the Ukrainian People's Republic, which had declared independence from Russia after the February Revolution overthrew the Tsar. Contrary to Putin's narrative, Lenin did not grant territory to Ukraine, but took it away. The Ukrainian People's Republic before its conquest by Bolshevik Russia was significantly larger than modern Ukraine. For example, not only did it include Crimea, but also Krasnodar Krai and the Rostov, Belgorod, and Kursk Oblasts, and what's now Transnistria and southern Belarus.
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@nirbija No, there was not any terrorizing of civilians in Donbas for being Russian-speakers. You're living in the alternate universe of Russian state media.
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@ Repeating that lie won't transform it into truth. Mass protest movements are not a coup. Neither is impeachment.
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@ They've deleted some of my replies too. (In this thread, I mean. Not just in general.) Youtube has never had free speech. Nor is there even any coherent pattern to what Youtube deletes. Which makes me think they have AI doing it. Censorship by humans would be predictable.
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@ Yes, it was only 11 years ago. We saw what happened, and it was not a coup. Neither popular protests nor impeachment by the elected legislature can in any way be called a coup.
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@ It wasn't a coup.
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@leonidashristou9111 Incorrect.
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@ Calling it a coup doesn't make it so.
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@kennylyon1934 You were there? Really?
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There was no "'14 coup in Ukraine". And if anybody are "paramilitary blackshirts", it's the DPR and LPR "rebel" militias.
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Declarations by the pre-independence government are most certainly not binding on Ukraine after it broke away from the Soviet Union.
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@ "Illegally" given? In reality, what happened in 1954 was that Crimea was returned to Ukraine, after having been stripped away by Lenin in 1922 after Ukraine was conquered by the Red Army and forced to join the USSR.
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If China wants to expose how much of a paper tiger they are just like Russia did in Ukraine...
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No, these fringe "trucker convoy" clowns are not the heartbeat of America.
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