Comments by "" (@shauncameron8390) on "Divided island: How Haiti and the DR became two worlds" video.

  1.  @liamwilson5670  LOL. Canada is only doing well because of the English. French Guiana is a French Overseas Department, hence still a colony. Louisiana is far from doing well as it's the 2nd poorest State in the US. Vietnam only after it adopted some capitalism like China and it actually ditched French for English.
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  2. Exactly! And it's also not the DR's fault that Haitians continue to elect POS's for Presidents, then want to flee when what they voted for makes their lives unbearable in the long run.
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  3.  1manuscriptman  And before Trujillo, the DR was equally as poor as Haiti.
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  4. Agreed. The DR doesn't owe Haiti a thing.
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  5. Which includes the Haitian Massacre, Africa's complicity in the Slave Trade, Africa's current problems having plenty to do with the policies of its post-independence leadership conducted by wannabe Marxists as opposed to colonialism, etc. By the way, I'm Black.
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  6. Pol Pot and communism destroyed Cambodia far more than the French did.
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  7.  @t00bgazer  And replace it with socialism where you can forget about even attempting to get out of poverty.
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  8. How so? France hasn't had anything to do with Haiti since 1947.
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  9. @Kristoff Bjorgman Well, in all fairness, the white French had it coming for their mistreatment of the Haitians.
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  10.  @powerfighter2554  Nothing is stopping Haiti from being self-sufficient but the Haitian government and Haitians themselves.
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  11. <Praying Haiti gets good Leadership that cares for their people soon and can become prosperous Country.. > Like the first 4 Emperors for life they had?
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  12. For what?
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  13.  @theosvult4857  Only because it's in Canada, a one-time British colony.
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  14. Not really as it would let Haiti off the hook and unjustly burden the DR.
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  15.  @ethan.000  No. Just Black people. And even Black people themselves want nothing to do with Haiti.
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  16. France hasn't had anything to do with Haiti since 1947.
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  17. But that debt was eventually paid off in the 40's. Much of Haiti's current problems are internal.
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  18.  @radioactivedude2762  Thanks to communism and Mengistu Haile Mariam.
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  19. But the DR is paradise in comparison to Haiti. You can ask even the Haitians themselves.
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  20. They were colonized by Moors once.
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  21.  @saikabrice8522  Why should the DR love and respect a country that tried to invade them as part of its debt repayment to France?
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  22. In retaliation to what the white French did to them.
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  23.  @CallMeSkillz_  The French got kicked out and that more or less spelt the beginning of the end for the French Empire. So how exactly did France drop the Haitians?
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  24. And yet French Guiana still votes to remain with France.
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  25. The Haitian government to get its act together.
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  26. Exactly.
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  27. No. Haiti has been poor, because of one too many leaders who cared nothing about economic development and plenty about their personal enrichment dating back even its first leader, Touissaint L'Overture alongside the population not being educated nor skilled enough to do anything large-scale.
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  28. For what?
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  29. Actually Haiti is the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere and among the top 20 poorest in the world.
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  30. No. <racial equality,> LOL. Do you honestly think Haitians are interested in that? Haiti at independence was founded as a Black supremacist nation.
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  31. What neighbors? Aside from Haiti, the DR has no neighbors.
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  32. As a French colony. After independence, it regressed.
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  33. Exactly.
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  34. And replace it what? Haiti was founded on Black supremacy.
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  35.  @hansrover3492  But sanctions are not a valid excuse for the poor governance Haiti has been plagued with since independence.
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  36. Haiti's perennially bad leadership and unskilled populace didn't help matters either.
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  37. Which was payback for how the whites (French) treated every black man, woman and child.
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  38. What conservative rule? Haiti was doing far leftism before it even had an official name.
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  39. No they're not. Haiti paid off that debt in 1947.
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  40. Just ask anyone from Western Africa or Vietnam.
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  41.  @gavriloprincip9634  He died in 2016.
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  42. But Haiti is among the top 20 poorest countries overall.
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  43. What about a thriving economy? That's something Haiti hasn't has since the French got kicked out.
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  44. Including Haiti.
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  45. The DR wants nothing to do with Haiti. And how is the DR going to absorb a country with a bigger population?
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  46. <No future in latin countries!> And not for as long as it keeps electing Marxists and populists to run the show.
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  47. <This is an inability to plan, grow food fir their own population. > Because Mugabe gave all the land to his political supporters who either couldn't care less about farming or barely knew how to farm. As a result, production declines, shortages and eventual famine.
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  48.  @tedkeenan3341  Jamaica is not that wealthy and is the 2nd most blackest country outside of Africa.
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  49. Except committed by Blacks.
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  50.  @powerfighter2554  But the DR's situation is nowhere nearly as dire as Haiti's, hence fewer Dominican migrants.
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  51. That's nothing compared to the perennially bad leadership it has had since independence that cared more about personal enrichment than economic development along with outside meddling by the US and France.
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  52.  @edwinlucianofrias1643  And even tried to re-instate slavery on their own people after the economy all but completely collapsed.
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  53.  @neonenayoy3997  But the amount of Dominicans risking their lives to got to Puerto Rico woefully pales in comparison to the amount of Haitians risking their lives to get to the US, Canada, the Bahamas, Jamaica, the DR and even mainland Latin America as the DR for all of its issues is nowhere near the basket-case that Haiti is.
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  54.  @billyhunter144  England.
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  55. Such as White liberals and leftists.
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  56. Also as part of Haiti's debt repayment tot France.
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  57.  Blue Lava  Not exactly. France ceded Quebec and Louisiana to the British as a result of losing its most profitable colony Haiti and being in economic turmoil. France losing Haiti spelt the beginning of the end for French dominance in the Americas.
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  58. Papa Doc? You mean Louverture and Dessalines.
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  59. Or any other Caribbean country like the Bahamas or Jamaica.
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  60. Actually, the US was the 1st in the Americas to get independence (1776). Haiti was the 2nd (1804).
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  61.  @powerfighter2554  Actually no it's not. That would be the US and Haiti itself.
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  62.  @edwinlucianofrias1643  And before Trujillo, the DR was equally as poor as Haiti.
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  63.  @ceu160193  Case in point: Zimbabwe and Uganda (with East Indians).
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  64.  @alexandercollins3115  No. The DR is 73% mixed, not Black.
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  65.  @viralkenyan6249  What about Zimbabwe?
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  66. Dominican Republic = 82. Haiti = 67.
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  67.  @edwinlucianofrias1643  Exactly.
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  68.  @powerfighter2554  How exactly?
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  69.  @powerfighter2554  You claim that Haitians care a lot about Haiti and are helping it, but I'm asking how exactly? Especially when most of its best and brightest have long fled and have no interest in helping aside from the relatives still there.
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  70. Why? The last thing Africa and the AU needs is another poor dysfunctional country to take care of as the continent has plenty of those to go around.
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  71.  @borisguiffot7877  It was part of the debt-repayment plan. When it was a French colony, Haiti was indeed richer than the DR.
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  72. How are Dominicans minorities? The DR is a Brown-majority country.
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  73. Actually, most of the DR is mixed.
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  74. Wrong! Haiti and the DR are respectively ex-French and Spanish colonies.
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  75. The world never was fair.
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  76.  @edwinlucianofrias1643  Maybe not, but you are not that much different from Cuba, El Salvador, Argentina, Colombia, etc. in the treatment of Blacks.
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  77. Good question.
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  78.  @mremarte  <Results: Japón 🇯🇵 rebuilt an even stronger country.> With US money. Just like Germany.
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  79. No, but the former Rhodesia and Apartheid South Africa did.
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  80.  @DaddyDuckTown  <but because they slaughtered the French> In retaliation to how the French mistreated the Haitians. The French had it coming.
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  81. There were only 3 African countries that kicked out their colonizers and became the poorest. Uganda, Angola and Zimbabwe.
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  82. Post-colonial Black countries = many of them adopted Marxism and betted the wrong horse in the Cold War.
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  83. Exactly.
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  84. <Britain touches turns into chaos> Not Canada USA Australia New Zealand Singapore Hong Kong
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  85. Why?
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  86.  @shazam2037  Equatorial Guinea is the only ex-Spanish colony in Africa.
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  87. Sub-Sahara Africa?
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  88.  @RonsmooveTI  And even the Dominican Republic and Cuba. Cayman Islands is still a British territory.
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  89. When Haiti wasn't being held back by the US and France, it was being held back its own bad governance.
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  90.  @iqqh  Republicans owe Haiti nothing.
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  91. Not exactly. Haiti is 95% Black while the DR is 73% mixed.
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  92. While at the same time drag the DR down to the level of Haiti.
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  93. @Alex Kamis Poverty due to the lack of viable and sustainable economic policies by the Haitian government along with the general ignorance of Haitians themselves.
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  94. Haiti is not America's problem.
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  95. They do have the abilities. It's just that they much rather help everyone except their own.
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  96. The Bahamas? Barbados? Ghana?
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  97.  @zaidan2778  You have only Pol Pot and communism to thank for that.
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  98. And chased out most of the mixed to the DR.
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  99. <This doesn’t even have to come in the form of money.> Yes it does. It's hard to do trade deals from a position of weakness. And effectively become a colony again. Besides, how's that working out for Africa?
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  100.  @BlackMoonstone531  Only to reinstate slavery on their own side of the island once they ran out of food.
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  101. Exactly.
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  102. Apparently, being a minority in a country that's thriving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being the majority in a country that's struggling or repressive.
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  103. And who can blame them when Haiti is a plain mess across the board? No one in the English-speaking Caribbean want anything to do with Haiti.
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  104.  @alberthoffman5297  <and how the french also destroyed the soil and environment> The Haitians destroyed it themselves. <kinda overlooks how the french made haiti made them pay an outrageous debt which they couldn't pay.> Yet in 1947 they paid it. And you're overlooking how Haiti tried to annex the DR as part of said debt repayment and failed.
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  105. Not really as Haiti's leadership had no plan on how it was going to support itself once it got its independence.
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  106. You mean the other Congo because the DRC is a former Belgian colony.
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  107. Meh. The Spanish bred the Natives out of existence when they weren't (unintentionally) killing them off with diseases.
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  108. The same Trujillo responsible for why the DR is better off.
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  109. This is about Haiti and the Dominican Republic, not India. And Haiti as a French colony was the most prosperous of the day.
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  110.  @emarley05  And yet French Guiana is one of the poorest departments in France. Mayotte is the poorest of them all.
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  111.  @longliveavalon  Florida is one of the wealthier states in the US.
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  112.  @ifyourespondyourmad.2409  So what's Japan's excuse? Or Germany's? Both have high populations.
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  113.  @ifyourespondyourmad.2409  And how is that going to work with Haiti has a bigger population than the DR?
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  114.  @edwinlucianofrias1643  Nope. And neither does a small population as in the case of Guyana which happens to be one of the poorest countries in the Americas.
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  115.  @edwinlucianofrias1643  But the vast majority do.
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  116.  @edwinlucianofrias1643  That's why I asked how is this going work?
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  117.  @BlackMoonstone531  But you're more likely to be a victim of a hate-crime in Ontario.
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  118.  @insightinfinitum_  Quebec is rich due to equalization payment from the rest of Canada (namely Alberta) while Louisiana is the 2nd poorest state in the US.
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  119. Same with wealthier Botswana and poorer Zimbabwe.
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  120. <It makes me so upset that the land was stripped of all of its precious resources, and when the haitian people won their independence, they were left with a dry deserted foundation. It wasn’t even their fault either! The people received no assistance OR recognition at all from countries that had the power to help.> But it was their fault for not figuring out how they were going to support themselves once they got their independence. And the conquest of the DR was part of their debt repayment to France. <The dominican government could easily make an effort to rebuild the bridge between its neighboring country, by simply starting with equal trading opportunities, but choose not to because of what? The fact that their skin is darker? Because a good foundation wasn’t provided to them by the europeans?> The DR has no obligation to help Haiti, especially after that ordeal to free itself from Haiti.
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  121. Not really. The DR = working poor. Haiti = homeless.
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  122.  @emptyhad  <Why can’t the DR just set up markets back home instead of relying on Haitians. Same thing but different story because your just going to defend the DR.> They already do. They don't need Haitians as they have little problems thriving in their own country unlike Haitians. Haitians need Dominicans
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  123. The French had it coming for how they treated blacks. Men, women and babies alike. Also Haiti spelt the end of the French in the Americas.
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  124.  @neonenayoy3997  But 95% of them are.
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  125. Haiti is 95% African. The DR is 73% mixed, 16% European and 11% African.
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  126. Actually, no. It was caused by poor leadership enabled by poor citizenry.
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  127.  @queenbee3100  Because only Haitians can solve Haiti's problems.
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  128. But it's a step-up from how they're treated by fellow Haitians and the Haitian government.
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  129. <World Bank, IMF, etc...offer assistance at a cost.> And rightfully so. They're a business, not a charity. <To develop a destitute and mistreated country, other nations must have the "my brothers keeper" mind set. and assist without strings and stipulations.> No. Foreign aid has done plenty to keep countries poor as it kills initiative for self-development.
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  130. No they shouldn't. Why should the DR pay for Haiti's incompetence?
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  131.  @gavriloprincip9634  Which is? I was just correcting you on the year Castro died.
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  132. Because they don't have to?
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  133. Namely where the elites live.
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  134. Without the resources.
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  135. They reinstated slavery when their idea to give everyone a bit of land resulted in no longer having any food left to feed the nation because most of the people had no ability or interest to farm and the other who had only farmed enough too feed themselves and household.
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  136. And chased out the mixed people to the other side of the river.
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  137. LOL. It's one of the poorest Departments in France in spite of all the mainland subsidies.
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  138. And Haiti has been plagued by poor leadership from the start.
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  139.  @RonsmooveTI  Exactly.
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  140. Only because of the rest of Canada, namely Alberta, subsidizing it.
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  141. But Haiti is poorer.
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  142.  @alexanderdelacruz3162  Louverture and Dessalines should have had an economic plan for how Haiti was going to support itself knowing that independence would come at price of being isolated and cut off.
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  143.  @franknunez  I always find it amusing how capitalist-haters call Haiti capitalist as Haiti hardly has anything resembling functional capitalism.
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  144.  @DavidCelestialKnight  Panama is not a black country.
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